Joe: Democratic Leadership Still Doesn’t Get It | Morning Joe | MSNBC


INCOMPETENCE NOTHING GETTING DONE AND THUS YOU HAVE 33.>>JEREMY PETERS, YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT PRYING TO KEEP HIS BASE. WE’RE JUST GOING TO TRY TO PLAY TO OUR HARD CORE, NATIONALIST TRUMPIST BASE AND EVERYBODY ELSE BE DAMNED. TEASE WHAT GETS YOU TO 36%. NOW IT’S GETTING TO 33%. DOES HE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING THAT STEVE BANNON HAS BEEN TELLING HIM TO DO, WHICH IS TO BASICALLY CHAIN HIM TO HISTORICALLY LOW APPROVAL RATINGS?>>OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS WHAT YOU’VE SEEN IS PART OF THAT STRATEGY THAT YOU’VE JUST DESCRIBED IS GOING HARD AT THE BASE. THIS EXPLAINS WHY WE’VE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCE ACTIONS AGAINST LATINO GANGS, IT’S WHY WE’VE SEEN HIS PRONOUNCEMENT THAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD CUT IMMIGRATION IN HALF. HAVING IN THE 70s IN AN APPROVAL RATING AMONG REPUBLICANS IS NOT GREAT. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S AIDES HAVE RAISED WITH HIM SAYING THIS NEEDS TO BE A LOT HIGHER. AS JOHN PEDORA WAS SAYING, HE’S BEEN UNABLE TO RECOVER SINCE FIRING JAMES COMEY. THE BRIGHT SPOT FOR SOME REPUBLICANS WHEN THEY LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS IN INDIVIDUAL STATES AND THIS IS WHAT A LOT OF REPUBLICAN STRATEGISTS ARE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW. YOU LOOK AT THE STATES WHERE TRUMP DID VERY WELL IN NOVEMBER AND HIS APPROVAL RATINGS ARE IN THE MID TO HIGH 80s, AND LET’S NOT FORGET RICHARD NIXON NEVER DROPPED BELOW 50% UNTIL THE DAY HE RESIGNED. IF MIKE PENCE OR JEFF FLAKE WERE TO CHALLENGE HIM, PEOPLE WOULD BE LIKE WE DON’T HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO ACTS CRAZY IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY IS A HARD CORE CONSERVATIVE.>>BUT YOU’RE JUMPING PRETTY FAR AHEAD IN TIME THAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION NEXT YEAR. IF HE’S GOT 80% IN ALABAMA, IT’S NOT LIKE A DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO WIN IN ALABAMA. THERE IS A SENATORIAL RACE IN ALABAMA AND NO DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO WIN THAT NOW OR IN 2018. THAT’S NOT THE ISSUE. THE PLAIN POLITICAL ISSUE IS DEMOCRATS NEED 24 SEATS TO TAKE THE HOUSE BACK IN 2018, AND THE TABLE IS BEING SET PRETTY NICELY FOR HIM TO GET THAT NUMBER. AND IF THEY GET THAT NUMBER, HE’S GOING TO BE IMPEACHED. I’M SAYING THE HOUSE WILL IMPEACH HIM IF DEMOCRATS HAVE A TEN-SEAT MAJORITY. IF HE DOESN’T RIGHT THE SHIP, HE’S CLINTON IN 1998 AND 1999 WITH NO RECOVERY POSSIBLE. CLINTON WAS DOING THAT AT A TIME OF EXPLOSIVE ECONOMIC GROWTH.>>STEVE RATTNER, DESPITE THAT I’VE SEEN SOME REALLY IMPRESSIVE DEMOCRATIC ADS OUT THERE, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS –>>WE’LL SEE.>>NO, THEY’RE CLUELESS.>>THAT AD GAVE ME A LOT OF HOPE YESTERDAY. I THINK THERE ARE SOME GREAT CANDIDATES OUT THERE.>>I’M TALKING ABOUT THE NATIONAL PARTY IS CLUELESS AND THEY ARE JUST AS DISCONNECTED FROM WORKING CLASS AMERICANS AS THEY’VE EVER BEEN. ARE THEY GOING TO BLOW THIS ADVANTAGES THAT BEEN GIVEN TO THEM? IS THERE CONCERN AMONG DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS AND DEMOCRATIC DONORS THAT THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP STILL DOESN’T GET IT?>>THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS AMONG DEMOCRATIC ACTIVISTS ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON. REMEMBER, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS WE SAW IN HEALTH CARE AND WE’VE SEEN IN OTHER ISSUES HAS ITS OWN SET OF DIVISIONS WITHIN IT. YOU HAVE THE PROGRESSIVE WING THAT HAS A SET OF THINGS THEY WANT AND ALMOST THE REMNANTS OF THE CENTRIST WINGS, THEY’RE HIDING IN THE WOODS AND AFRAID TO COME OUT BUT THEY’RE THERE. THE NEW DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM THAT HAVE COME OUT IN LAST FEW DAYS ARE A BUNCH OF SMALL BORE IDEAS THAT THEY COULD BUILD A CONSENSUS AROUND BUT NOT A REAL VISION OF WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. AND WE’LL GET TO THIS ON UM GRAGS. IMMIGRATION IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES.>>IT SOUNDS LIKE A HARDEE’S AD, A BETTER DEAL. AND THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE, THAT’S A PERFECT EXAMPLE. AND I’M GOING TO GET JUMPED BY SAYING THIS BECAUSE I’M IN MANHATTAN.>>NO, YOU’RE NOT.>>I’M NOT?>>NO, YOU’RE NOT.>>THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS LOST WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICANS BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION. THAT’S AN ISSUE. AND THERE’S SUCH A BLIND SPOT THAT THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND, THEY REALLY DON’T UNDERSTAND THAT FOR A LOT OF WORKING CLASS AMERICANS A FLOODOD OF IMMIGRANTS COMING THE UNITED STATES MEANS NOT ON THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS BUT THEY’RE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW IT DEPRESSES THEIR WAGES. SO WHEN THEY HEAR DONALD TRUMP SAY LET’S LESSEN THE NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WORKING CLASS DEMOCRATS THINK IT’S PRETTY GOOD FOR WAGES.>>THEY HAVE NO COHERENCE TO THE AGENDA RIGHT NOW. LOOK AT THAT NUMBER WITH WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICANS, THE PRESIDENT BEING UNDERWATER GIVES THE DEMOCRATS THAT OPPORTUNITY BUT THERE’S NO COHERENCE TO THE AGENDA. THEY HAVE A POLICY CHALLENGE, A MESSAGING CHALLENGE, A GENERATIONAL CHALLENGE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THAT IS A A PROBLEM THAT THEY’RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE BY HIRING AN AGENCY TO REBRAND A PIZZA COMMERCIAL TO DEFINE THEIR AGENDA. THEY NEED AN AGENDA AND THEY NEED A GENERATION OF NEW LEADERS.>>IF YOU GO BACK TO 2006, YOU’LL FIND PAUL KRUGMAN WRITING IMMIGRATION AND LOW-SKILLED WORKERS THREATEN AMERICANS. NOW THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS FIRMLY, UNILATERALLY, UNQUESTIONABLY ON THE SIDE OF BRING US YOUR HUDDLED, TIRED MASSES, WE’RE WANT ALL IMMIGRANTS AND THAT’S WHAT COST THEM THE WHITE WORKING CLASS VOTERS.>>AND WHAT WILL CONTINUE TO AND IT ALSO DOES DRIVE DOWN WAGES FOR WORKING CLASS AMERICANS.>>WHERE I WANT TO PUSH BACK IS THIS — THE MODEL OF THE MID-TERM ELECTION IS 2010, THE REPUBLICANS WIN 63 SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND IN 1994, THEY WON 52 SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND THEY WON THE SENATE. SO HERE’S THE KEY. THERE WAS NO COULD HEERNS TO THE REPUBLICAN AGENDA EITHER IN ’94 OR 2010. THOUGH CO HERED AROUND A COUPLE OF PRETTY SIMPLE MESSAGES AND IN 2010 THAT WAS OBAMA IS SPENDING US INTO THE SEWER AND IS IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION. WHEN REPUBLICAN WIN, THEY GET INTO THE HOUSE AND SUDDENLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO COHERENT AGENDA, IT’S A NIGHTMARE, THEY CAN’T AGREE ON ANYTHING, THEY SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN TEMPERATURE IT MAY BE BAD FOR DEMOCRATS IN 2019 BECAUSE THEY WON’T HAVE A COHERENT AGENDA BUT IF THEY CAN CO HERE AROUND A COUPLE SIMPLE ANTI-TRUMP MESSAGES, ONE OF THEM BEING THE CLASSIC MESSAGE HE’S NOT GETTING EVERYTHING DONE, HE’S FAILING EVERYBODY AND IS FAILING HIMSELF OWN VOTERS, THAT CAN GET HIM TO ELECTION DAY.>>DO-NOTHING REPUBLICANS.>>KASIE HUNT, WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT AND ASK QUESTIONS ESPECIALLY TO YOU ABOUT HOW REPUBLICANS ARE NAVIGATING THIS PRESIDENCY. WHAT DO YOU HEAR FROM DEMOCRATS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL MOMENT OF OPPORTUNITY THAT IS BEFORE THEM?>>Reporter: WELL, I WANT TO PICK UM ON WHAT JOHN WAS WAS JU SAYING ABOUT DEMOCRATS AND THE COMPARISONS TO THE TEA PARTY WAVE IN 2010. BECAUSE IT’S A GOOD POINT, YES, WHERE THEIR MESSAGES WERE LEANED UP BUT A REMINDER THAT A LOT OF THE CANDIDATES THAT GOT ELECTED IN 2010 CAME TO WASHINGTON AND BECAME MASSIVE THORNS IN THE SIDE OF REPUBLICAN LEADERS. THESE WERE NOT PEOPLE COME OUT OF SOME GRAND REPUBLICAN PLAN TO TACK BACK GOVERNMENT. MY INSTINCTS IS THAT MAY BE HAPPENING ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE HERE, TOO. LOOK AT THE SHEER NUMBER OF DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS. EPHS JUST LOOKING AT IT, ACCORDING TO WITHIN ID THIS TIME DURING THE LAST ROUND OF MID-TERM ELECTIONS, LRP 44 DEMOCRATIC CHALLENGERS. SO IT’S COMPLETELY EXPLODED. BUT I THINK THE ANALYSIS THAT DEMOCRATS ARE NOT POSITIONED WELL TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT FROM A NATIONAL PARTY PR EXPECTATIVE IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. AND ONE QUESTION I’VE BEEN STARTING TO ASK CAN YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE IN THAT IN TURN WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWER AS TO HOW TO FIX IT. AND IN THE POPULOUS WING PEOPLE WILL SAY SHE LOST OF GOLDMAN SACHS.>>I WASHI WORKED FOR GOLDMAN SACHS. I’VE BEEN BEGGING TOO WORK FOR THEM FOR TEN YEARS.>>I THINK THE QUESTION IS CAN THEY GET AWAY FROM IT?>>GREAT POINT.>>JUST AS FAR AS ON THE GROUND, MIKE, THERE’S ALSO AN IDEOLOGICAL PROBLEM WITH THE DEMOCRATS. IF YOU RUN ANYWHERE IN THE SOUTH FROM KENTUCKY DOWN TO SOUTH FLORIDA OVER TO MISSOURI AND YOU’RE A.>>Chip: IT’S EASY TO SAY YOUR FIRST VOTE WILL BE FROM — IT’S THE SAME THING DEMOCRATS WERE ABLE TO DEMOCRATS YOU’RE GOING TO GO HELP NEWT GINGRICH AND DICK ARMEY.>>THE LARGER PROBLEM IS RULED IN TWO THINGS, TIMIDITY AND ELITISM. THEY’VE BEEN SO TIMID ABOUT TAKING ON THESE, USE LIKE IMMIGRATION. EXPLAIN IMMIGRATION TO PEOPLE AND WHEN YOU EXPLAIN IT, YOU SAY PEOPLE COMING IN ARE NOT TAKING YOUR JOB, THEY’RE NOT GOING TO LOWER YOUR WAGES, AUTOMATION, TECHNOLOGY, GLOBALISM, THOSE ARE YOUR ENEMIES. AND THEY’RE YOUR ENEMIES BECAUSE WE’VE LET YOU DOWN. WE’VE LET YOU SIT THERE IN THE MILL THAT WAS GOING TO LEAVE, IF IT HASN’T LEFT ALREADY, AND YOU’RE GOING TO BE UNEMPLOYED AND MACKING $LE. BUT THEY’RE SO TIMID ABOUT THESE THINGS AND SO FRUSTRATED BY SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THEY’VE BEEN DRAGGED TO THE LEFT MAINSTREAM OF THIS COUNTRY. THERE’S NO MYSTERY AS TO WHY THEY’RE LOSING.>>BUTS QUESTION IS

100 Replies to “Joe: Democratic Leadership Still Doesn’t Get It | Morning Joe | MSNBC

  1. I feel that this administration purely have such hatred towards types of humans and actually I think it's people in the Whitehouse calling the shots like Steve Miller and Bannon

  2. Mike, I was with you up until dragged to the Left by special interests. Pitch perfect point, but it's dragged to the Right by special interests.

  3. Single Payer Health Insurance. -They need to make this their new platform. This would re-define politics forever. It would demolish the hard right.

  4. as far as the house and senate i am pretty sure democrats will atleast get enough seats to protect against the most of trumps insanity if not win a small minority. but i do think joe is partially wrong with why hillary lost. republicans just did to much damage to hillary over her tenure as secretary of state and then after, i mean how many different benghazi investigation where thei tat found nothing criminal but keep it in the new until election year. the anti hillary campaign was in full swing even before she announced she was running it was dum to pic her. she also though away allot of voters by her association with feminist groups. and petty sure she tossed a lot of military voter with her comment about women and girls always having been the primary victims of war. both parties need to distance themselves fom religion. democratic religon being feminism.

  5. Trump is popular in George Wallace's Alabama, what a SUPRISE!!! Joe, quit conning yourself, Southerners  aren't conservatives, they're RACISTS, they've always been racists. Racism is that "Tradition" they're so proud of. They vote for The Southern Strategy, not for Tax Breaks for the Rich. I lived there for 25 years, I KNOW THEM!!!!

  6. remember Bernie is still the most popular senator in the country and they talk about leadership how about the most popular senator in the country why wont they rally behind him…..probably because they like the corruption and cushy jobs and Bernie is real change and would cut off the donor money and that terrifies establishment dems.

  7. While I realize Mika is the co host I am getting annoyed at how often Joe interrupts her, almost every time she speaks, he either interrupts of talks over her. There is good info coming out of this show, but Joes constant interruptions of not only Mika and the guests is becoming intolerable. Sit back Joe, let others speak.

  8. I agree with Barnicle, except for the dragged to the left part. Dems need to actually stand for something, and if the wealthy "donor base" doesn't like it, well then let's have Bernie show them how to run a campaign and get individual donations. That way we're not in their pocket anyway. If Schumer and Pelosi aren't willing, time for new leadership.

  9. Totally weird the male host has diarrhea of the mouth while she makes random noises she gets one sentence to say introducing a female guest then she goes back to the traditional female role of keeping quite and holding the dumb end

  10. I really whish I could be on this show to tell joe how wrong he is. The dems do have a message and you ignoring it and saying they dont just because your president is a disgrace to everone not only to republicans. Bernie Sanders said it best. Trump is a fruad. And stop playing racial politics. I am white and I hate trump. The dems care about the American people and dont care about their race. It seems republicans like you think by playing racial politics is the only way you can win . but people are getting smarter and seeing past that and dont want anything to do with the lies and wickedness coming from the gop

  11. The BIGGEST problem we have with illegal immigration is that the corporations / companies cater to them… How are these people working if they are illegal… Why do you have to speak Spanish to work at a McDonalds in a "local" American neighborhood, when you have to take / pass the citizenship test in English… It is because that McDonalds is in a neighborhood that is highly populated with illegals who can't speak / understand English good enough to order from a McDonalds menu… The same as the companies that hire them and nothing is done to them… If you take away the incentive for them to come illegally (such as catering to them with everything in Spanish and giving them illegal jobs) just to make a profit at the expense of America, most will not bother with what they have to do to be here "legally",  so a BIG part of the problem would be solved… BUT, we are talking going after the corporations / companies who are breaking the law employing / catering to them, and that seems to be taboo with politicians…

  12. I am disgusted Joe suggested the democratic leadership has to go racist to get white working class people. Just like the establishment to focus on identity politics rather than the real issues like healthcare, education, and minimum wages that lifts all boats in a rising tide. You know things the donors dont want because they want more fricken tax cuts.

  13. Who cares about ratings when your creating a dictatorship and you have the means. American minds are to busy being divided.

  14. Until we start giving out huge fines to the businesses who employee these workers, which the Republicans will never do, this system will remain and depress wages. Go to the source – The Businesses that don't want to pay fair wages!!

  15. Joe is trying to have it both ways. He should have stayed Republican. His change to an independent was a joke.

  16. Democrats would Win with : 1: Single payer Healthcare 2: make the minimum wage a living wage 3: free college 4: End the wars 5: Money out of politics 6: Infrastructure building programs.. Etc etc..

  17. Democrats should get off their moral high horses and support restrictions on immigration. They should essentially support Trump's immigration plan and work with him on details.

  18. Joe Scarborough drags Mika too far right toward white male privileged POV. JOE supported, advised & enabled Trump during the election and his right wing views have not changed.

  19. Mike Barnicle has hit it on the nose at the end of the segment. Major issue is education and retraining, helping to put policies in place that helps workers transition from jobs that are no longer there, to new and better paying ones in the future.

  20. Said it before – DT's plan to bring in high skilled instead of lawn mowers, table cleaners, and fruit pickers will DEPRESS WAGES IN JOBS AMERICANS NEED, jobs that pay more then min wage.  Dems didn't loose because of immigration taking the jobs they are, they lost by deliberately NOT CAMPAIGNING in key states and having NO agenda at all, almost like they were paid to loose, like the same billionaires who buy Republicans by the dozen.

  21. The main reason republicans took over after 2010 is gerrymandering, and if these pendants just came out and said that, they wouldn't have anything to talk about all day. Another reason republicans took over is the mastery of the political attack ads, the mastery of lying, and the mastery of political smear campaigns, like Bengazi. The American people need to wake up and start fact checking, and quit listening to political attack and smear campaigns.

  22. A Woman's Right to Choose is Fundamental and a Core Belief..  
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    Progressive values are women's values.. we will NOT give them up.. they are NOT disposable..  
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  23. Democratic Party has been dragged to the left out of the mainstream? Mike Barnacle, you're embarrassing. On what issue has the Democratic Party moved to the left? Please, point that out. Bernie tried to move the party to the left and is still trying. Btw, he is the most popular politician in the country. Guess why? Because the people like his ideas. The mainstream wants to move further to the left. The reason why democrats continue to lose is because they've moved too far to the RIGHT where they're indistinguishable from republicans. If you give people a choice to vote for either a republican or a republican-like, they'll vote republican every time. And I don't blame them.

  24. No immigration is not what costs democrats the white blue collar workers. Trade deals and being slow to embrace the $15 minimum wage lost their votes. Immigrants aren't taking our jobs those jobs are leaving the country.

  25. stop talking out of the side of your face, Joe. I thought you were a truth speaker. If things are bad for the white working class you have to know that the rest of us are DROWNING!!! What do they want that the rest of us don't? And they really thought this was the answer? I call BS! Big Stinky BS too!

  26. The republicans dont know how not govern and the democrats dont know how to win;and we are in the eye of this storm.

  27. And how many white working class people are gonna go out into a field in a 100 degree heat and pick something??

  28. I honestly think the republican party is projecting. Joe want to draw a false equivalency. The democrats are a better governing party.

  29. fortunately msnbc and cnn has done a good job. trump is in a box ha ha ha ha , good job media, bravo ! run donny run !!!

  30. if the trump voters were japanese, they would be obligated to commit suicide. if not, still if they had any backbone they would suicide anyway !!! first trump, then pence etc !!!

  31. Honestly from the outside it looks like the dems are paid to lose, and its the only way you can explain why they are so weak on everything, when it comes to war's and tax cuts for the rich the dems almost always just roll over, it' not normal, i was in eygpt when they were having a shame eletion and they had a fake oppersition party and they behaved so much like the democratic party the similarities were starting, that's how you end up with a Trump in charge

  32. The Democratic "leadership" will never get it. The only option to move the USA forward is to start a new PROGRESSIVE party. But setting this up takes time. Start NOW!

  33. Dems need to use Grover Norquist against the Republicans. All Americans care about the economy and republicans only care about the wealthy. Make Grover Norquist a household name.

  34. Having immigrants drives down wages??? No our federal budget and all these private corporations that are in bed with one another drives down the wages

  35. they are not supposed to "have a vision of where they want to go" !!!! they are supposed to be working to make the laws of the land conform more closely to the precepts of The Constitution as society and technology grow and change. WHY are we all going along with this Democrat / Republican ideology Myth?????? Our government has been highjacked by these two parties and we are all going down.

  36. Joe doesn't understand what happened during the Clinton years at all, and he manages to understand what's going on now even less.

  37. Dems have a history of doing things. Republicans don't. Dems need a way to get past the endless Trump coverage and endless quotes from republicans.

    Democrats haven't been able to get a news headline in years. Graham says one sentence and it's headline news across the country. This is not real journalism. It's fake news. If republicans owned the media would the coverage be any different?

  38. they want democratic votes but they don't wanna stick to democratic principles and look after the needs of the many. they have bernie, who is the most popular politician in america because of his views, and yet they feel the party needs fresh faces to run. they don't want bernie because he stands for everything they no longer stand for. they want the votes, but they also want big money. it worked for a while, but the people have caught on to their bs and if they keep doing this they will keep losing. the media won't help either because they're a part of big money. take a chance and get fully behind bernie sanders and you will see just how successful you will become.

  39. We Democratic must get rid of Nancy Pelosi. If we do not I really think the G.O.P. will keep the house. Please call your Dem. Rep. and tell them to dump Nancy.

  40. Obama promising to renegotiate NAFTA while on the campaign trail then dismissing that promise as "campaign rhetoric" after he was elected more or less destroyed their blue firewall. Trump is president because voters sent the message to the democrats not to take them for granted. Unfortunately it seems the Democrats are ignoring that message under the assumption that not being as bad as Republicans will get it done. It's time for conservatives to vote Libertarian and progressives to vote Green.

  41. I like how they threw Bernie's name in there with immigration, and later say the Dem's have been pulled to the "Left" – It has started. The slow and soft slights to bring him down before 2020. Disgusting to say the least. The Dems lost because they are the new center/right and NO WHERE NEAR LEFT! :O-

  42. Mika, I know you're not dumb but is there any chance you can do more than just pull faces and emote on cue? Your role as Joe's nodding sidekick is demeaning.

  43. What's Mike Barnicle saying. When there is high immigration and people will work for less and under the table it does depress wages.

  44. You think Democrats lost because they were dragged to the left? 58% support single payer. +80% want to raise taxes on the wealthy. +90% want money out of politics.

    They lost because they were dragged to the right. The left is where most Americans are right now, and Hillary Clinton didn't give them a valid alternative to Trump.

  45. Joe is correct, Democrats still don't get it. They must first get rid of Nancy Pelosi and elect someone with strength and wisdom. She looks like someone's grandma running a political party while walking around in a fog. Bottom line she doesn't look or act with strength. I agree with everything the panel said.

  46. Omg this is the dumbest segment

    Middle class Americans are not screaming immigration reform from the roof top

    They are screaming wages and healthcare

    Joe you're gardener is not the problem

    The people in your phone contacts are

    Think about what I just said

  47. So, 76% of Republicans think Trump is doing a good job and they approve? Really? Really? So, what would it take for Trump to lose their approval?

    That just blows my mind! No matter how I try, I just can't figure out these people!

  48. FYI – immigration is essential to economic growth. They don't "steal" jobs, they expand the economy. Ask Japan how blocking immigration has done such wonders for their economy lol. Capitalism is dependent on growth. No growth means stagnant wages. Joe's arguement is a dead wrong Republican arguement that every economist disagrees with. Just admit the anti-immigrant stance is a race based stance, not an economic one.

  49. Don't try to play it off now Joe! These "trumpists" were in the Republican party before trump showed up. His camp just got the board out ahead of the other white supremacists and rode the wave. Keep giving the alt-right cover and "trump" will happen again.

  50. They don't get it. The majority of country has move to the left over the last several election cycles. The country is getting younger, more diverse and more progressive. But as long as they stay home and are content to complain about how things are, nothing will change. History shows that fundamental change has to come from the bottom. Politicians have to be dragged kicking and screaming in order for it to happen.

  51. Democrat message: "We will do nothing to slow mass immigration, and make you taxpayers keep paying for the healthcare of 1.2 million new immigrants yearly, plus 80,000 refugees every year and 20 million illegals! VOTE FOR US!"

  52. America is a one party state the democrats role is to keep up the illusion of democracy by loosing elections and if they would accidently win one they immediately enact republican policies.

  53. Delusional Dem's & Bernie Bros = What's really wrong with America.
    >> Attention DNC you are all Corporate Money Whores, not appealing to working folks. Attention Bernie Bro's, Bernie is a Commie. Let him move to his beloved Venezuela, because their model of Socialism is going so well. LOL …. <<

  54. Artificially raising wages and making it harshly illegal to pay immigrants under the table will save the middle class.

  55. There's no coherence in joes argument. One day it's: "Republicans need to reach the latino vote or they will FAIL". Now it's: "Democrats need to abandon the latino vote and flirt with the racist withe male vote or the will FAIL."

  56. The sad thing that trump does not get, is that his base won't get him re-elected, the only reason he won with his base because no one really voted most people chose not to vote at all that's how his base got him elected, this time around the people are going to make sure he gets voted out …… so sad……..

  57. Democrats don't really have ideological or tribal core voters. They only rally round a candidate who best portray what they believe in. The stronger the candidate the stronger the followership.

  58. if Trump spent half the time he spends trying to look like he does something, actually doing something, that'd do a lot.

  59. The problem is the Dems are doing just what the Reps did in 2010. They are taking the easy road and simply going to run against Trump. That is easy,, on top of that they should have a big policy agenda. We want you to vote against him, but also vote for us.

  60. Barnacle say's they are serving special interests and therefore dragged to the left of the mainstream … that my friends is the classic MSM misdiagnosis. The reality is they are actually dragged right of the mainstream. The special interests he mentions are actually corporate donors and they aren't left more than anything they are centre right low tax loving corporations/ wall street financiers/ monopolistic tech giants … those aren't libs they're not even true conservative they are just crony capitalists who buy out both sides to have that faux neutral position where they take funding and services away from tax payers and like a bit of social liberalism because that's there customer or employee. The mainstream as measured by polling year after year shows people are more likely to support federal programs such as medicare for all, public education, welfare, social security, raising minimum wages, and so on and so forth … the donor class stand in opposition.

  61. Trump is spending Us in the ground with all the money he has spent on his children his family his self his security that the American people have paid tax dollars in that's he's use. Money the Obama's used is drop in a bucket compared to. what Trump have spent right off in the White House.

  62. I voted for Obama because it was the chance for African-Americans c
    1st chance in history .
    I was tired of Clinton"s on the spot light like movie stars only. then the woman she wants to be for ever on the spot light puppets on tv mean time people losing their houses
    We had to vote for Trump to get her out of the picture for ever
    FOR THE FIRTS TIME IN YEARS WHAT A RELIEF
    IF THE MEDIA WOULD LET US ENJOY but journalist have been there like evil taking away the joy of a New life BUT I'm glad Trump is strong man he communicate with us so media is no need it any more.

  63. Jeff Flake could challenge Trump? Bahahahahaha even the media's golden boy Rubio couldn't win his home state against the Donald.

  64. Immigration is not a real issue for the working class. Working class people are encouraged to blame immigrants by the people in power, but their problems are stagnant wages, poor healthcare, poor access to education, etc. And the Republicans aren't about to solve any of those issues.

  65. Anyone who thinks the Democrats are taking the House in 2018 is delusional. Keep smoking whatever you got.

  66. Working class American have not abandoned the Democratic party. Not true. I am here, I am not leaving. I am not flipping parties or candidates because I am firming against big business, tax breaks for the rich and immigration that crushes DACA. I am also against this new appearance of the Republican party as a rich, white man's party. This country is made up of many races, religions and LGTB individuals that make this country amazing, but are disowned and disenfranchised by the new racist party.

    And, the answer to our problems is not just a generational problem. Trump is 70 and not connecting with millennials, just a new generation of racists.

  67. A STEADY DECLINE? AT more than 3/4ths of REPUBLICANS? 4/5 in key states?
    What would it take? For heaven sake, maybe the reality is that TRUMP IS A MIRROR!
    A DEMOCRAT could never win in ALABAMA? Is that DEMOCRACY? No, its not. White supremacists are in control and eugenics is what the REPUBLICANS offered on healthcare.
    One newspaper columnist said that the parties are THE STUPID PARTY and the EVIL PARTY?
    and you do not SEE ANYTHING WRONG? Democracy in the USA has been easy pickings for Russia because it is rotting from within. Get your act together and offer something SENSIBLE and HEALTHY.
    The blind are leading the blind- the greedy are EATING the people.

  68. It is a lot simpler than you want to admit. The REPUBLICANS coalesced around a visual.
    They united AGAINST a BLACK MAN- racism united the REPUBLICANS. And the VISUAL of a woman in opposition to a WHITE MAN took it over the top (when all the gerrymandering worked just as planned).
    Globalism is not the enemy- the GREED of CEOs and special interests that sold the people out as corporate raiders profited -selling lifetimes of expertise and innovation as property for the top dogs allowed the tail to wag the USA dog. AND YOU ARE GOING TO PLEAD THE SIDE OF GOLDMAN SACHS?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_employees_of_Goldman_Sachs

  69. Joes an idiot,I have a hard time watching him just look at his hair and they laugh at Trump hair , He looks like he’s wearing a top hat.

  70. "Even if it defies the numbers…"

    That's the problem. Democrats keep telling people immigration is good for the economy, meanwhile blue collar Americans are wondering how as they struggle to put food on the table.

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