Let's talk about the government's relationship with the environment….

well howdy there internet people its Bo again so tonight we're going to talk about government's relationship with the environment and I don't just mean the US government although it's gonna be part of the example I mean all governments in general the environments always a secondary concern very rarely the primary on July 10th 1985 there was a boat down in New Zealand it was called the Rainbow Warrior it was down there to draw attention to a French nuclear test French government didn't like this very much they didn't want people talking about it so French intelligence blew it up killed somebody in the process that's not a conspiracy theory they got caught pled guilty went to president it happened in a less dramatic way there's something very similar happening in the United States right now recently the president gave a press conference of sorts in which he proclaimed himself a land protector conservationists all over the world just stared at their TV and utter confusion this administration has rolled back so many environmental regulations I was going to list them but we have that kind of time it's insane it's it's an immense list but cliff notes he he's overseen the largest rollback of federal land protections in history he talks about the idea of opening the entire coastline of the United States up to offshore drilling while simultaneously getting rid of the safety regulations that help prevent spells he killed the moratorium on leasing federal lands to the coal industry squashed regulations about the disposal of coal ash Roback so many clean water regulations I don't even work again so yeah it's it's doublespeak politicians saying one thing and doing another that's kind of normal it's kind of normal but at the same time this is going on federal agencies are currently scrubbing all references to climate change because well can't have you talking about it kind of like bomb in that boat the test is going to happen climate change is gonna happen we just don't want people talking about so yeah it's it's normal politics as usual but this is done with malice there's no debate about whether or not climate change is a thing there's some debate although not vigorous debate over whether or not it is man-made or man assisted or whether or not it's natural you can debate that if you'd like but at the end of the day it's happening the Pentagon is drawing up plans to deal with it it's a national security threat but you're gonna be denied the information you need to deal with it because contrary to the very popular fiction government's not here to protect you it's not a protectorate it's a government it's there to govern you to maintain control and maintain power and that's what it's about back in 1985 was about military power so that's when they bombed the boat but today it's different we don't colonize anymore with flags and guns we do with corporate logos engage in cultural colonization as we rip whatever we can out of the ground it's worth noting that while he gave this press conference he was flanked by a former oil lobbyist and a former lobbyist for the coal industry it's something we need to keep in mind as the environment gets politicized because the environment as a whole doesn't have any money but the oil and coal industry do anyway it's just a thought y'all have a good night

31 Replies to “Let's talk about the government's relationship with the environment….

  1. I keep hearing about "Agenda 21". I don't see anything horribly wrong with it, though it clearly isn't the best implementation of sustainability. What are your thoughts, Beau?

  2. I saw the title and the first thing I thought was "Gov'ts have no relationship with the environment. Having a relationship assumes that Gov't loves and cares for the environment, which is. clearly, a lie…like Trump"

  3. Scientists who disagree on Climate climate change!

    Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences.[84][85]

    Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[86][87][88]

    Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg.[89][90][91]

    Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[92][93]

    Vincent Courtillot, geophysicist, member of the French Academy of Sciences.[94]

    Doug Edmeades, soil scientist, officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.[95]

    David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester.[96][97]

    Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University.[98][99]

    William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University.[42][100]

    Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, Theoretical Physicist and Researcher, Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.[101]

    Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo.[102][103]

    Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[104][105]

    William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology.[106][107]

    David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware.[108][109]

    Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri.[110][111]

    Jennifer Marohasy, an Australian biologist, former director of the Australian Environment Foundation.[112][113]

    Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa.[114][115]

    Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[116][117]

    Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide.[118][119]

    Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego.[120][121]

    Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado.[122][123]

    Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University.[124][125][126]

    Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo.[127][128]

    Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.[129][130]

    Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia.[131][132][133][134]

    Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.[135][136]

    Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville.[137][138]

    Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center.[139][140]

    George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University.[141][142]

    Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa.[143][144]

    Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.[145][146]

    Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).[147][148]

    Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.[149][150]

    Pål Brekke, solar astrophysicist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre.[151][152]

    John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports.[153][154][155]

    Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.[156][157]

    David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.[158][159]

    Stanley B. Goldenberg a meteorologist with NOAA/AOML's Hurricane Research Division.[160][161]

    Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change.[162][163]

    Kary Mullis, 1993 Nobel laureate in chemistry, inventor of the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) method.[164][165][166]

    Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists.[167][168]

  4. Redbeard, the energy price in Green, Leftist Calif and New York are over 19 cents per KW hr. In the Confederacy range from 9 to 12 cents.
    Gasoline in leftist green Calif $3.70, about $2.40 across the Confederacy.
    Poverty is the tradeoff here.
    Make the poor poorer?
    Notice how your Open border policy makes people poorer too as incresed labor supply from migrants depress wages? Fight for rental housing?
    Every dang thing you support is to increase poverty!
    Screw the poor. Your motto.


  5. Wanting to knock some heads around about the Shapiro new stance "climate change is real but the government shouldn't do anything about it". It's like turning the fire department away while your home is burning. You have to be a special kind of stupid to hold that stance. How does that stupid fucker have any followers that aren't there to mock him?

  6. "Now, what's clear is, because the US has been the hegemonic alpha dog for so long, is that the world doesn't have a Plan B for if the United States fails.  But the United States of America needs to fail.  The US dollar needs to fail.  There is no hope for any of us unless that oppression, that straitjacket, that iron mask in which we are forced to live is removed.  We have to see that.

    "The US dollar is one of the major legs that must be broken down to change that consciousness about money.  It's like Chief Seattle said, 'Not until you have killed the last fish and cut down the last tree and poisoned the last river will you discover that you cannot eat money.'  

    "So now the dollar is collapsing.  The US empire is in retreat.  The world doesn't quite know what to do and this was discussed clearly when I went to Moscow in 2001 with the Ministry of Finance.  Consciousness has not evolved to the point where people realize that money is nothing.  It's not 'money is the root of all evil',  'the love of money is the root of all evil'; the belief that it's power.  You know, here's the cruelest joke; and I can hear George Orwell and Terence McKenna laughing their asses off.  (Pulls a dollar bill out)  What does it say on here: 'In God We Trust.'  This is God!  This is the God that's dying.  This is the fucking God that means nothing!  It's not clean air!  It's not fresh water!  

    "The world that we live in right fucking now, the hypnosis is going to break.  Because everybody is going to realize almost in a heartbeat what matters is: do you have food to eat?  Do you have unpolluted water that you can drink?  Do you have air that you can breathe?  Are you able to maintain your body temperature at night?  And at that point, the switches go on and mankind is faced with one of two choices.  That's it.  When the dollar goes, it's going to be a very short period of time before it comes to that real fork in the road."
    – Michael C. Ruppert; Apocalypse, Man

  7. Things are this way because the wealthy, those who care enough about the impact of government on their industries to invest some of their wealth in controlling it, either (1) don't think the destruction of the environment will get so bad they can't run away to some pristine part of the world, or (2) don't think they will be around long enough for the lack of such pristine places to become a concern for them, or (3) because capitalism punishes those who think on too long a time scale.

    Someday, their descendants will be suffering, and it will be almost comical how they reorient their governments toward rebuilding the environment their ancestors destroyed, at the cost of all sorts of legal and human rights for the poor.

    It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that nations of signifigant size may be exterminated by even larger nations because the world ain't big enough for both of them.

  8. Goverments are not protectorments, but people are not isolated in bubbles either.
    Collectively, individuals are responsible for the environment, and the state (condition) it is in.
    We each are responsible for what we individually contribute to the destruction of the environment.
    Becoming educated on what you can do to pollute less and sharing those ideas with family, friends, people at your church, at BINGO, at your workplace, etc has an impact.
    Understanding the relationship to cost savings and the things you do to help the environment is critical.
    EPA has online calculators that help you learn about your impact. Most people don't know about this or what you can learn from looking at cost savings and the influence of money on people's decisions.
    For example, people by now know that switching to LED lights can reduce energy used and help reduce pollution, but they go to the store and see how much the bulbs cost and get dissuaded by that cost. Because they have no clue how to actually calculate how much money they can save because the LED bulbs last longer as well as don't use as much energy they don't understand that they will get paid back for their investment.
    Money talks. If you can tell and teach people how much money they will save annually by investing in a one time LED light purchase, that can change people's minds and decisions.

    The individual can be a disruptor and peer influencer.
    Be an influencer in your peer group to move other people to change behaviors to more environmentally sustainable behaviors. That is the ONLY way we can reverse this. It has to be peer to peer, individual to individual and grassroots to make real change.

  9. Are we headed to a 2nd revolution? How long can we continue to watch this before we make it stop.
    I am not a supporter of antifa or any group that employs violence in their tactics. I'm not a gun guy but I can't just watch the US go away.
    The current administration has no vision of the future .I read that Pompeo and Pence wish to set our foreign policy to help armageddon come to fruition. I know self awareness isn't prevalent among the talibangelicals but what happens when they are inevitably wrong .
    Long winded this morning ,my apologies.

  10. I've read about that incident in New Zealand. To be honest, getting caught like that was a big failure for French intelligence.

  11. (some) big oil companies are more concerned about climate change than the Trump administration.

    When Shell tells the government that we need more regulation to deal with climate change, we probably need more regulation to deal with climate change.

  12. What relationship? Oh you mean the one that's like being in an abusive relationship? Where the man prostitutes his wife out to other nasty men? Beats and poisons his wife for other evils peoples entertainment and profit? That relationship?

  13. If we acknowledged global warming then we might delay it for a few more years. But if we help it along we can get it over with in half the time! See you down in Arizona bay.

  14. The corporations and people contributing the most to the climate crisis are the ones that will be just fine when cataclysmic weather events start happening continuously all over the world.

  15. I Know what my grandparents faced , they stepped up despite their parents. I know what my parents faced, they stepped up despite their parents. My generation , yeah we stepped up to our parents ..After half a century. I'm of mind to ask….What the hell are you waitin' for?

  16. Let's whine because Trump isn't going to tie America's hands while Russia and China do as they please. Man made climate change is a scam.

  17. Trump just lies and lies and lies. I wonder if that's why he took dumb barbie to the G20 meeting to distract, then was the only one to disagree and walk away from the other 19 countries who are at least are paying lip service to the mess of global warming.

  18. Not utter confusion.. utter certainty that in a very few generations this species is toast ..and utter bitter hatred.

  19. Enquiring minds need to know. Is the general price for iceberg lettuce $2.59 in most places? Locations in the US. Just wondering. I get to thinking about all the produce that is likely being dumped because cost prohibitive or it just plain tastes totally wrong. Stringy. Bitter. Flavorless.

  20. As Michigan official had called it through the Flint investigation, clean water is now an entitlement. GoP talking point, we are a capitalist country, make $$ first, f you all later if you dont have the bucks.

  21. Earth is a living being she will adapt new life forms will evolve, however humans, unless we start honoring our actual creator ie Earth and stop the pathetic adherence to religious indoctrination that denies the truth of what life is – humans are doomed. The end!

  22. Billions of years created MOTHER earth as a perfect harmony , SHE is not waiting for politicians. Ask yourselves why WH BLOCKED pier reviews by scientists regarding global warming from Rod Schoonover testimony to congressional intelligence committee.??? It is NOT too late elect Bernie who does NOT take corporate donations or hides truth.

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