Ady’s been a real inspiration in a time when, in our country, we need inspiration of leading this resistance to this Trump administration. But more importantly than that, fighting for something, especially for everybody in this country to be able to get good health care, so that we understand that health care is a human right. Hello, y’all. Hi. How are you? Welcome. Hi, good to see you. Rachael? Hi, I’m Rachael. So nice to meet you. Thank you for coming. Hi, what’s your name? Carl. Great to meet you. Good to meet you, Ady. Welcome to Santa Barbara. Thank you. This is the first time I’ve been here. It’s good to meet you. Yeah, it’s a nice place. I want to show some photos of us from before. This our Columbia graduation. Is that Columbia? I was gonna say, yeah, I recognized it. Yeah. Who’s in that one? Baby Carl. Baby Carl, yeah. So this was just a few weeks
before Ady was diagnosed— actually, we were at a friend’s
wedding in Northern California. during During—when Ady was protesting against the Republican tax bill in December 2017. And that was also right around when he started using a wheelchair, so it’s been, you know, a
pretty steady progression since then Daddy! Yeah. Yeah. Daddy. Ok, bud. Should we go outside
and let Abba and Julián talk a little bit? I have to say, as a movement organizer, I really admire the work your mother did. You watched her build La Raza Unida as a
political activist and help win real power for people in marginalized communities. Yeah. You have said she was a defining influence on you. Can you talk a little bit about that? What you learned growing up going to organizing meetings and watching your mom fight for justice. I’m very proud of my mom I’m convinced that if my mom had not
been involved the way that she was, that my brother Joaquin and I probably wouldn’t have gotten into politics, into public service. When my brother and I were growing up, my mom would drag us to meetings,
and to speeches, and to rallies, and we’d be waiting for 3 hours while the
adults talked in the other room about organizing. And at the time, I hated it. My mother, when she was active, her and her generation, they always had a greater hope for their kids. So the other thing that I learned was that
your victories don’t always come right away. As you know, I would like to focus the
bulk of our discussion today on health care. It is obvious that our health care system is in crisis. Millions are uninsured. This system is not working for anybody unless, of course, you are a pharmaceutical or
insurance executive. I am curious: Does anyone in your family have personal experience with the health care crisis that way? Yeah, you know I grew up with a grandmother had Type 2 diabetes, but the godsend was that she had Medicare. We had some ability to be able to
afford the health care that she needed. I’ve also had relatives that were out of a job, that couldn’t afford medication, couldn’t afford to go see the doctor. And then I compare that to my grandmother, and that’s why, you know, I believe that we need to build out our
health care system around Medicare— to make it available to everybody who wants to be on it. I want to show you a video. It was recorded by Matt, who lives in New York, and his mother Cokie, who is a registered nurse. Their story is a harrowing one, and yet, it’s an experience that’s become all too common in this country. As a teenager, I was rationing my insulin, managing my diabetes that way, and I ended up passing out, and my roommates— sorry—they, they carried me to the hospital. I said, ‘Don’t take me to the emergency room. I can’t afford to pay for it.’ ’Cause I didn’t even have money for insulin, so I was like, how am I supposed to pay
for an emergency room bill? If Matthew had had access to insulin
when he was 19, 20, 21, it would’ve been much cheaper
than him going into the hospital. He— and all these patients that I’ve taken care of— would greatly benefit from Medicare for All. As Republicans try to figure out how to take away people’s care and give more money to to the insurance companies, Democrats are debating different paths forward. What would your approach be as president, and what bill would you ask Congress to send you? My approach—I see it as an approach that’s built off of Medicare with, basically, a private option. So that ultimately, that everybody will be,
essentially, on a Medicare-based system. If somebody has a solid health insurance plan, private health insurance plan, that you’re gonna have some time period
where they’re able to hold on to that. But I believe, in the competition between those two, that ultimately, we’re going to get to a
point of a system that’s based off of Medicare. I have ‘good’ private insurance, but it doesn’t cover long-term care, so now we are scrounging to pay a crazy
$9,000 [a] month for 24-hour care. This is why I support Medicare for All. I think that— that the example of your insurance is a
very appropriate cautionary tale about the shortcomings of private health insurance. Because I think that a lot of people don’t foresee that they may find themselves in a
situation because I think that they’re gonna need certain type of coverage, or they believe under the plan that it would be there, and then it’s denied. So we need to make sure that, to the
extent there is any private health insurance, that that private health insurance
actually is solid and strong. A recent survey found that a majority of
all voters supported Medicare for All and the phaseout of private plans if they
can keep their doctor and hospital. Do you agree that people like their
doctors and not their private insurance plans? Oh, I agree, I agree, yeah. I think the relationship that people have is
with their doctor, not with their private health insurance
plan—I agree with that. And I think that it—it means that we need
to strengthen reimbursement rates, particularly to doctors in rural communities, for instance, to ensure that physicians are
able to keep that relationship with their patient and be there for their patient. You have stated numerous times that you
believe undocumented immigrants should get the health care they need. How would you make that a reality as president, especially given the new public charge rule and other laws that prevent undocumented immigrants from getting necessary health care? I think there are two steps. Number one is immediately, the administration would begin to undo
the rules that were implemented by Health and Human Services or any of
the other departments on public charge. And then secondly, as we do health care legislation, we’re gonna need to include that an
undocumented immigrant would be able to avail himself or herself of health care. But I do believe that we’re gonna have a
Democratic president, a Democratic Senate, and Democratic House at 12:01 pm
on January 20, 2021. And that if the decision is between
making sure that everybody has good health care or this 60-vote filibuster rule, I’m gonna choose getting health care to everybody, including making sure that undocumented immigrants are able to get the care that they need, even as we put them on a pathway to citizenship. Thank You Secretary Castro, since my diagnosis, I
have been thinking a lot about my legacy. I hope that people in my life remember
me as someone who advanced the cause of justice. How do you want to be remembered? It’s weird for me to think about a legacy,
but I hope that people will remember me as somebody that tried to do good for
other people, tried to help other people. I believe that that’s a good word, that we
should go into politics, into public service, to help people. And I hope at the end of my public
service, that people will say that I helped a lot of people. Thank you for what you said, and thank you again so much for coming here. I have enjoyed the conversation and truly believe your voice is one the American people need to hear. Thank you very much. It has been a privilege to meet you.
AND THAT’S “THE ANGLE.”>>Laura: THE DEMOCRAT PARADE OF IDIOCY LAST NIGHT WAS SO SPECTACULAR, WE FELT COMPELLED TO BRING BACK THE INGRAHAM AWARDS. OKAY, JOINING ME TO PRESENT THESE PRESTIGIOUS AWARDS IN COMMENT, THE SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN. SHE’S LIVE FROM CPAC WEST IN RENO, NEVADA, ALSO HERE, TOM BEVIN, CO-FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF REAL CLEAR POLITICS. ALL RIGHT, GUYS. GREAT TO SEE YOU ON A FRIDAY NIGHT. FIRST UP, OKAY, WE’RE CALLING THIS IS ANNIE GRAB YOUR GUN AWARD. AND IT GOES TO, BETO OROURKE. OKAY, WELL, APPARENTLY HE CAN’T STAND A MAN WITH A GUN.>>ARE YOU PROPOSING TAKING WAY THEIR GUNS, AND HOW WOULD THIS WORK?>>I AM. IF IT’S A WEAPON THAT WAS DESIGNED TO KILL PEOPLE. HELL YES, WE’RE GOING TAKE YOUR AR-15, YOUR AK-47.>>Laura: MERCEDES BETO LEANED INTO THE STEREOTYPE UNVEILING THE NEW SLOGAN, “BAY TOE HAS A BAN FOR THAT.” HE UNVEILED THAT. IS THIS GOING TO WIN?>>IT WON’T WIN STATES LIKE TEXAS, FOR EXAMPLE. AND EVEN TODAY, SPEAKING TO SEVERAL OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS IN NEVADA, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A VERY SERIOUS DISCUSSION ON THE 2nd AMENDMENT AND THE FACT THAT ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL COUNTIES OF NEVADA AND CERTAIN STATES LIKE NEW MEXICO, THAT THEY’RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS BEING VIOLATED. AGAIN, THERE IS — THERE IS THIS NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH GUN VIOLENCE, ABSOLUTELY. AND THE PRESIDENT HAS ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE WHEN IT COMES TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH MORE EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. IT’S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TAKING AWAY GUNS FROM LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS. IT ABSOLUTELY VIOLATES OUR 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS. AND IT’S INCREDIBLY TROUBLING. WHILE THE BASE — THE LIBERAL BASE GETS EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND BETO IS TRYING TO GAIN POINTS ON THE LIBERAL SIDE, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT COMMON SENSE AMERICANS ARE SAYING, WAIT A SECOND, HE’S GOING WAY TOO FAR.>>Laura: TOM, QUICKLY ON THIS, I’M GOING TO GET TO THE NEXT AWARD, LAST YEAR, YEAR BEFORE LAST, HE GAVE A RADIO INTERVIEW WHERE HE BASICALLY CONTRADICTED EVERYTHING HE’S SAYING NOW. SO I GUESS WE CAN SAY IN LIBERAL LAND, HE’S EVOLVED ON THIS ISSUE. BUT WHAT A WILD MESSAGE FROM SOMEONE FROM TEXAS. ALL OF THE STUFF ON THE INTERNET WAS TODAY YOU COME AND TRY TO TAKE MY AR-15s, PEOPLE WEREN’T HAVING ANY OF THIS.>>THERE’S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BETO PROBABLY NOT GOING TO WIN THE NOMINATION BUT CHALLENGING JOHN CORNYN FROM TEXAS. IF REPUBLICANS HAD THE SLIGHTEST WORRY ABOUT BETO RUNNING FOR SENATE IN TEXAS, THEY’RE NOT WORRIED ANYMORE, HE’S UNELECTABLE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS>>Laura: THE BEST SCHOOLING OF THE RHODES SCHOLAR GOES TO JULIAN CASTRO. MAYOR PETE WAS A LITTLE SHELL SHOCKED HERE.>>THIS REMINDS EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT THEY CANNOT STAND ABOUT WASHINGTON, SCORING POINTS AGAINST EACH OTHER, POKING AT EACH OTHER, AND TELLING EACH OTHER THAT YOUR PLAN, MY PLAN, WE ALL –>>IT’S THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY ELECTION. IT’S CALLED AN ELECTION. THIS IS WHAT WE’RE HERE FOR. IT’S AN ELECTION.>>Laura: MERCEDES, MAYOR PETE LOOKED LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN FILMING A GOT MILK AD OR SOMETHING. HE WAS A SCHOOL BOY OR SOMETHING. HE WAS MEAN. I’M A BIG FAN OF CASTRO, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD MOMENT.>>THE EXCHANGE WAS INTENSE. FOR PETE TO GET INTENSE, IT DOESN’T HAPPEN TOO OFTEN. HE MUMBLED HIS WAY THROUGH. THE SECOND-YEAR CANDIDATES AREN’T REALLY BREAKING THROUGH. AND PETE HASN’T REALLY OFFERED A VISION, MANY OF THESE DEMOCRATS, THEY HAVEN’T OFFERED A VISION OF HOW THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND HELP AMERICA GROW, ESPECIALLY FROM THE TERMS OF WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT. SO I THOUGHT THE EXCHANGE WAS BIZARRE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. AND PETE’S TRYING TO TAKE THE UPPER HAND ON THIS. BUT I THINK IT JUST FELL FLAT.>>Laura: THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE AWARDS. IT’S A HIGH BAR. ALL RIGHT, TOM, THE MOST LIKELY TO CONDUCT THE BOSTON PHILHARMONIC AWARD GOES TO — BERNIE SANDERS. ALL RIGHT, BERNIE SANDERS LOOKED LIKE LEONARD BERNSTEIN UP THERE. WATCH.>>SPENDING TWICE AS MUCH PER CAPITA ON HEALTH CARE AS THE CANADIANS OR ANY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH.>>IT’S AMERICA.>>BUT AMERICANS DON’T WANT TO PAY TWICE AS MUCH AS OTHER COUNTRIES.>>Laura: TOM, HE DOES LIKE TO DO THIS A LOT AND — WE’RE HAVING FUN WITH BERNIE. BUT DID HE HIT HIS PEAK IN 2016? HE’S BEEN REPLACED IN THE PROGRESSIVE LANE, HASN’T HE? HE’S BEEN EDGED OUT.>>ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, BERNIE, THIS IS THE SORT OF — BERNIE 2.0, IT’S JUST A CRANKIER, LOUDER VERSION. HE SEEMS TO BE ANGRY AND SHOUTING ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS NOW. NEWER MODELS, FRESHER MODELS, MORE EXCITING MODELS. BERNIE IS STAYING TRUE TO HIMSELF FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH. BUT IT’S THE SAME STORY EVERY TIME HE STEPS ON THE DEBATE STAGE.>>MERCEDES, HE DOES KIND OF LOOK ANGRY ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE SAY TRUMP’S ANGRY. HE’S IN A GOOD MOOD. HE FIGHTS BACK WHEN HE’S HIT. BUT HE’S HAVING FUN. BUT HE’S JUST — HE’S THE “GET OFF MY LAWN” GUY. BERNIE.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR TOO. THAT’S ONE OF THE BEST PARTS ABOUT HIM. FOR BERNIE, HIS BIGGEST CHALLENGE, OBVIOUSLY, IS THE POLICIES REALLY, HE HAS DEFINED THAT SOCIALIST BRANCH OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. AND THERE’S THE POPULARITY THAT’S GROWN AROUND HIM AND ELIZABETH WARREN AS WE KNOW THEY’RE SPLITTING THAT VOTE RIGHT NOW. BUT HE’S TAKEN THE PARTY TO SUCH AN EXTREME. AND VERY MUCH OPENLY ADMITTING HE WANTS TO RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS.>>YEAH.>>EVERYBODY IS SAYING THAT NOW.>>THAT’S TRUE. BUT NOW HE’S BEEN ONE ON THE LEADS ON THIS. HE’S ONE OF THE LEADERS ON PUSHING THE MIDDLE CLASS.>>Laura: AS TOM SAID, THERE ARE NEW AND IMPROVED MODELS NOW. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TO GET TO THE NEXT ONE. FOR ONE OF OUR MOST COVETED INGRAHAM AWARDS, THE AWARD FOR THE BEST OPRAH GIVEWAY MOMENT.>>YOU GET A CAR.>>Laura: THE AWARD GOES TO ANDREW YANG.>>MY CAMPAIGN WILL NOW GIVE A FREEDOM DIVIDEND OF $1,000 A MONTH FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR TO TEN AMERICAN FAMILIES, SOMEONE WATCHING THIS AT HOME RIGHT NOW.>>Laura: HANDOUTS ARE PRETTY POPULAR FOR THE VOTERS. I THINK HE WON A DRUDGE POLL. WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE? IS THERE ENOUGH CASH TO BUY THE ELECTORATE.>>YEAH, THIS ONE — HE’S PUSHING THE UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME, THAT’S ONE OF THE PRIMARY PLANKS OF HIS PLATFORM. BUT THIS GOT PANNED EVEN BY FELLOW DEMOCRATS. THEY ALL KIND OF — EVEN THE ONES ON THE STAGE WERE GIGGLING AND LAUGHING ABOUT IT. IT DIDN’T GO OVER WELL AMONG EVEN LEFT WING FOLKS ON TWITTER. THIS WAS A FAIL ON ANDREW YANG’S PART. HE TOUTED THIS AS SOME BIG NEVER BEFORE SEEN THING THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. IT DIDN’T COME OFF FOR HIM VERY WELL. I DON’T THINK>>Laura: ONE MORE, JUST ONE MORE. THIS IS THE — OH, ONE MORE. THE POT, KETTLE, BLACK AWARD GOES TO — BETO OROURKE. BETO MADE THIS SLANDEROUS CLAIM ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP.>>RACISM AND VIOLENCE LONG BEEN A PART OF AMERICA WAS WELCOMED OUT IN THE OPEN AND DIRECTED TO MY HOMETOWN IN EL PASO, TEXAS WHERE 22 PEOPLE WERE KILLED, DOZENS MORE GRIEVOUSLY INJURED BY A MAN CARRYING A WEAPON HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUY IN THE FIRST PLACE, INSPIRED TO KILL BY OUR PRESIDENT.>>Laura: FOLLOWING THAT, HE HAD THE GALL TO SAY THIS.>>THE BITTERNESS, THE PETTINESS, THE SMALLNESS OF THE MOMENT, THE INCENTIVES TO ATTACK ONE ANOTHER AND TRY TO MAKE DIFFERENCES WITHOUT DISTINCTIONS, MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOLE HILLS, WE HAVE TO BE BIGGER.>>Laura: ALL RIGHT, REAL QUICK –>>WE HAVE TO BE BIGGER. YOU KNOW, IT’S AN OUTRAGE THAT BETO WITHOUT ATTACK THE PRESIDENT AND BLAME THE PRESIDENT FOR THE SHOOTING.>>Laura: DISGUSTING.>>HE’S TRYING TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS. HE’S GOING NOWHERE. GOING NOWHERE.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THOSE OF YOU WHO WATCHED THE DEBATE EARLIER TONIGHT HERE ON ABC AND FORGOT TO TURN THE TELEVISION OFF, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE WATCHED THE THIRD DEMOCRATIC DEBATE, THIS TIME FROM HOUSTON, TEXAS. IT WAS EXCITING, YOU KNOW, WATCH BEING THE CANDIDATE THE TACKLE ISSUES IS AS CLOSE AS WE GET TO FOOTBALL. THEY ALL TRIED TO STAND OUT AND AVOID BEING ELIMINATED UNDER EXTREME TIME PRESSURE IN A TELEVISED EVENT. NOW LET’S PUT 45 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK AND GO. THIS WAS A LARGE CAST OF CHARACTERS. TO HELP VIEWER KEEP TRACK OF WHO WAS WHO, ABC DID SOMETHING SPECIAL. ♪ THE ELECTION IS QUICKLY APPROACHING ♪ ♪ AND WE’VE GOT DECISIONS TO MAKE ♪ ♪ WITH SO MANY PEOPLE TO CHOOSE FROM ♪ ♪ WE DON’T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE ♪ ♪ WE CAN ONLY SEND ONE TO THE WHITE HOUSE ♪ ♪ AND THE OTHERS WILL HAVE TO GO HOME ♪ ♪ DEMS THE BREAKS ♪ ♪ YEAH, DEMS THE BREAKS ♪ ♪ WHOEVER GOES HOME WILL SAY DEMS THE BREAKS ♪ [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>Jimmy: I WOULDN’T WATCH THAT SHOW. IT IS WEIRD THAT THEY PUT TEN CANDIDATES ON THE STAGE. HERE’S HOW, I’D PUT THE FOUR FRONT RUNNERS AT THE CENTER OF THE STAGE AND LET THE OTHER SIX DANGLE OFF THE STAGE BY THEIR FINGERTIPS. MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG WAS UP WAY PAST HIS BEDTIME. HE ALMOST DIDN’T MAKE IT TO THE DEBATE. YOU CAN SEE HE GOT STUCK IN THE CLAW MACHINE AT THE DAVE AND BUSTERS AT THE BAY BROOK MALL, BUT HIS MOTHER WAS ABLE TO FISH HIM OUT. THE MODERATORS TONIGHT WERE GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS, DAVID MUIR AND JORGE RAMOS. THEY HIT THE CANDIDATES WITH ALL THE TOUGH QUESTIONS LIKE, IF ELECTED, HOW DO WE KNOW YOU WON’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’ROURKE SPEAK SPANISH DURING THE DEBATE. HE DID. WILL JOE BIDEN CHOKE ON HIS TEETH DURING THE DEBATE. HE ACTUALLY DID. JOE BIDEN DID, HE DID WELL TONIGHT. HE WAS FACING THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HIS PANTS WERE ON. IT WAS, IT WAS A GOOD OUTING FOR HIM. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE THREE WOMEN ON STAGE. IF ANY OF THESE WOMEN ARE ELECTED, IT WOULD BE HISTORIC, AND IF, IF BERNIE OR BIDEN WERE TO WIN, IT WOULD BE PREHISTORIC. BUT BERNIE WAS — [ APPLAUSE ] BECAUSE HE’S SO OLD IS WHAT I’M SAYING. THEIR AGE. BERNIE WAS VERY BERNIE TONIGHT. HE CAME RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE YELLING. HIS VOICE WAS CRAZY. IT SOUNDED LIKE HE SWALLOWED A FROG. HE WAS SCREAMING LOUDER THAN CAM NEWTON AT THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE. HE GAVE A STRONG WARNING TO GIVING AMERICANS AFFORDABLE THROAT LOZENGES.>>IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WE ARE SPENDING TWICE AS MUCH PER CAPITA ON HEALTH CARE AS THE CANADIANS OR ANY OTHER MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH.>>Jimmy: HE HAD HIS TURN SIGNAL ON FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. THAT WAS EMBARRASSING. I FELT BAD FOR HIM. [ APPLAUSE ] THIS WAS THE FIRST DEBATE WHERE JOE BIDEN AND ELIZABETH WARREN WERE ON STAGE TOGETHER. THEY’VE BEEN DESCRIBED AS FRENEMIES. IT’S A WEIRD SITUATION. ELIZABETH WARREN IS THE CANDIDATE MOST DEMOCRATS SAY THEY’D LIKE TO VOTE FOR, BUT THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS THINK JOE BIDEN IS THE GUY THE COUNTRY WOULD VOTE FOR. BUT I DON’T KNOW. I DON’T THINK IT’S A GREAT IDEA TO TRY TO GUESS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE WANT. THAT’S HOW YOU WIND UP EATING AT GOLDEN CORRAL. I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO COME HERE. MOST OF WHAT HAS THE DEMOCRATS WORRIED IS AFTER HILLARY, WILL ANOTHER FEMALE CANDIDATE BE ABLE TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP? WILL IT BE TOO RISKY? I THINK A FEMALE HAS A BETTER CHANCE AGAINST TRUMP, ESPECIALLY IN A DEBATE. WOMEN ARE MUCH BETTER AT HANDLING BABIES THAN MEN. IT’S A BIOLOGICAL FACT. SOME MADE WAVES, MOST NOTABLY, THE BUSINESSMAN, ANDREW YANG. HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER SAID HE’D BE DOING SOMETHING NO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS EVER DONE BEFORE, WHICH IS EXCITING TO HEAR, BECAUSE THERE CAN BE SO MANY THINGS. MAYBE HE WAS PLANNING TO EAT A TIDE POD ON CAMERA. OR RIDE IN ON AN OSTRICH. WHO KNOWS. BUT ANDREW YANG DID NONE OF THOSE THINGS. INSTEAD, HE GAVE AWAY CASH.>>I’M GOING TO DO SOMETHING UNPRECEDENTED TONIGHT. MY CAMPAIGN WILL NOW GIVE A FREEDOM DIVIDEND OF $1,000 A MONTH FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR TO TEN AMERICAN FAMILIES. SOMEONE WATCHING THIS AT HOME RIGHT NOW. IF YOU BELIEVE THAT CAN YOU SOLVE YOUR OWN PROBLEMS BETTER THAN ANY POLITICIAN, GO TO YANG2020.COM AND TELL US HOW $1,000 A MONTH WILL HELP YOU DO JUST THAT.>>Jimmy: LIKE A RADIO STATION CONTEST. THIS THOUSAND DOLLAR THURSDAY. THAT MAY BE THE MOST RIDICULOUS PROPOSAL I’VE SEEN ON THIS NETWORK, AND I’VE WATCHED EVERY EPISODE OF THE BACHELORETTE. HE ALSO HAD FUN WHEN HE TOOK THE STAGE TONIGHT.>>ENTREPRENEUR ANDREW YANG. [ APPLAUSE ]>>Jimmy: I’D LIKE TO SEE JOE BIDEN DO THAT. SOME OF THE CANDIDATES WENT AFTER JOE BIDEN, LIKE HE WAS SOME KIND OF DEAD BEAT DAD ON THE MAURY POVICH SHOW. JULIAN CASTRO IN PARTICULAR. THERE WAS ONE MOMENT WHEN CASTRO LASHED OUT AT BIDEN FOR FORGETTING SOMETHING, WHICH HE DIDN’T FORGET, BY THE WAY, AND BERNIE APPEARED TO LEAN OVER AND HELP JOE OUT. IT WAS KIND OF ENDEARING. IT MADE ME HOPEFUL FOR A REBOOT OF GRUMPY OLD MEN. B BETO O’ROURKE HAD A BETTER NIGHT. O HE LOOKS LIKE THE HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER YOU KNOW HAS WEED IN HIS DESK. HE CALLED DONALD TRUMP A WHITE SUPREMACIST AND ANNOUNCED A PLAN FOR A REPARATIONS BILL AND A NEW MADEA MOVIE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. CORY BOOKER WAS THE ONLY UNMARRIED CANDIDATE IN THE DEBATE. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING, A SINGLE PRESIDENT. YOU SEE HIM ON TINDER. CAN’T SWIPE RIGHT ON A DEMOCRAT. HAVE TO SWIPE LEFT ON THEM, RIGHT? HE’S DATING ROSARIO DAWSON, THE ACTRESS. BUT EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE TOGETHER A LOT OF THE TIME, UNTIL THREE DAYS AGO, SHE HADN’T OFFICIALLY ENDORSED HIM, WHICH IS, I MEAN, HOW MANY DISHES MUST THIS GUY LEAVE IN THE SINK? OVERALL, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DEBATE. I THOUGHT ABC NEWS DID A GREAT JOB. I DON’T KNOW WHO WON THE DEBATE, BUT WATCHING CANDIDATES DISCUSS THE ISSUES INTELLIGENTLY, USING REAL FACTS, I’D FORGOTTEN WHAT IT WAS LIKE. IT WAS LIKE WALKING OUT OF NORTH KOREA AND INTO A COSTCO. IT WAS THAT SAME. PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD REPORTERS HE WOULD NOT WATCH THE DEBATE LIVE TONIGHT. SAID HE WAS GOING TO TAPE IT AND WATCH IT LATER AS A RERUN. THIS IS WHAT HE WAS DOING DURING THE DEBATE.>>THE LIGHT BULB. PEOPLE SAID WHAT’S WITH THE LIGHT BULB. I SAID HERE’S THE STORY. I LOOKED AT IT, THE BULB WE’RE FORCED TO USE, NUMBER ONE, MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE LIGHT’S NO GOOD. I ALWAYS LOOK ORANGE.>>Jimmy: YEAH. IT’S THE LIGHT BULB THAT MAKES YOU LOOK ORANGE. NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TAN IN A CAN. [ APPLAUSE ] TRUMP ALSO ENTERTAINED THE GANG OF THE INSTITUTE WITH A ROUTINE ABOUT SLEEPY JOE BIDEN AND PRESIDENT XI. WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO SLOW IT DOWN FOR TONIGHT’S EDITION OF DRUNK DONALD TRUMP.>>HE WANTS SLEEPY JOE. CAN YOU IMAGINE THOSE TWO GUYS IN A ROOM? XI, HA, AND HERE’S SLEEPY JOE, WHAT? WHERE AM I? WHERE AM I? JUST SIGN HERE, SLEEPY JOE. JUST SIGN HERE. ♪ ♪ [ APPLAUSE ]>>Jimmy: SO, IN BETWEEN HIS STANDUP FIGURES SHALL THE PRESIDENT IS STILL FIGURING OUT WHO’S GOING TO REPLACE HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. THERE WERE REPORTS TODAY THAT HE WAS THINKING ABOUT GIVING THE JOB TO MIKE POMPEO WHO WOULD THEN HAVE TWO JOBS TO BE FIRED FROM IN THREE MONTHS, WHICH WOULD BE UNUSUAL BUT NOT UNPRECEDENTED. THERE WAS ONE OTHER SECRETARY OF STATE WHO ALSO ACTED AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, HENRY KISSINGER, WHICH WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR TRUMP, BECAUSE NOBODY KISSINGER KISSINGER KISSINGERS HIS ASS LIKE MIKE POMPEO. HE MADE IT CLEAR HE HAS MANY OPTIONS TO FILL THIS MOST RECENT HOLE.>>A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT THE JOB. IT’S A GREAT JOB. IT’S GREAT BECAUSE IT’S A LOT OF FUN TO WORK WITH DONALD TRUMP, AND IT’S VERY EASY, ACTUALLY, TO WORK WITH ME. YOU KNOW WHY IT’S EASY? I MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS. THEY DON’T HAVE TO WORK.>>Jimmy: SOUNDS LIKE A TERRIFIC WORKING ENVIRONMENT. HE MAKES ALL THE DECISION, WHETHER THEY BE ORIGINAL RECIPE OR EXTRA CRISPY. OF ALL THE HORRIBLE THINGS HE’S BEEN TRYING TO DO, THERE’S ONE SUBJECT ON WHICH THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR, AND THAT IS THIS.>>I’M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST. I WANT CRYSTAL CLEAN WATER. I WANT CRYSTAL CLEAN WATER. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE CRYSTAL CLEAN WATER. CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL, CRYSTAL WATER. CLEAN, CRYSTAL CLEAN WATER. WE WANT CLEAN WATER. CRYSTAL. CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL, CRYSTAL WATER. NICE, BEAUTIFUL, CLEAN WATER.>>Jimmy: SO WHAT DID THEY ANNOUNCE TODAY? THEY’RE ROLLING BACK OBAMA’S CLEAN WATER ACT WHICH LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF CHEMICALS BUSINESSES CAN PUT IN OUR WATER. HOW DOES IT WORK. DID THEY WAKE UP AND SAY WHAT HORRIBLE THING CAN WE DO TODAY? I KNOW, LET’S POISON THE WATER. HE’S ROLLED BACK PROTECTION OF THE WATER, AIR, ENDANGERED SPECIES AND PUBLIC LAND. ALL HE CARES ABOUT IS ROLLING BACK WHAT OBAMA D IID. I’M SURPRISED HE DIDN’T ORDER SASHA AND MALEAH BACK INTO THE WOMB. THE CANDIDATES WERE WARNED BY ABC NEWS AND THE DNC NOT TO USE FOUL LANGUAGE, BECAUSE IF THERE’S ONE THING WE’VE LEARNED, IT’S THAT VOTERS WILL NOT TOLERATE A PRESIDENT WHO USES FOUL LANGUAGE. WITH THAT SAID, IT’S TIME FOR A SPECIAL DEBATE EDITION OF THIS WEEK IN UNNECESSARY CENSORSHIP.>>LAST YEAR, DEMOCRATS [ BLEEP ]ED 40 REPUBLICAN [ BLEEP ]S IN THE HOUSE.>>I’VE MET PEOPLE [ BLEEP ] THEIR DOCTORS. I’VE MET PEOPLE WHO [ BLEEP ] THEIR NURSES, WHO [ BLEEP ] THEIR PHARMACISTS.>>YOU’VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT THE WORKING CLASS ISSUES. THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE A [ BLEEP ] AFTER WORK.>>THIS IS ABOUT HONESTY, BIG [ BLEEP ].>>IN MY DEBATE I WAS CALLED A [ BLEEP ] FROM THE IRON RANGE. WHEN SHE SAID IT, I SAID [ BLEEP ] YOU.>>THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR YOU AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. [ BLEEP ] YOU.>>I KNOW HOW [ BLEEP ]. AND I KNOW HOW TO WIN. I [ BLEEP ] GIANT [ BLEEP ], AND I BEAT THEM.>>I AM ASIAN. SO I HAVE A LOT OF [ BLEEP ], [ BLEEP ].>>IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE [ BLEEP
BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. JESSE: HERE WITH SOME REACTION, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT. THE NEWEST FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR. SARAH SANDERS. WELCOME TO THE FOX NEWS TEAM. NOW, YOU CAN’T CANCEL AT THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH LATE-BREAKING DRAMA ON A FRIDAY AT THE WHITE HOUSE.>>THE ONE TIME THAT HAPPENED I DID FIND A GOD REPLACEMENT. HE MAY HAVE BEEN FAR BETTER A GUEST THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THAN MY DAD. JESSE: OUR FATHER IS A GOOD GUEST, BUT NOT AS GOD AS YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS. TWO BIG FAKE NEWS STORY. THEY ARE NEVER CORRECTED OR UPDATED. IS THIS GOING TO GO ON AND ON WITHOUT CONSEQUENCE? NOW YOU ARE AT FOX, YOU CAN BE THE OMBUDSMAN AND EXACT CHECKER AND WE CAN LET THEM KNOW.>>I WISH I COULD SAY THESE MOMENTS ARE SURPRISING. WHILE THEY ARE SAD AND UNFORTUNATE. ER IN NOT SURPRISING AT ALL. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE SEEN DAY IN AND DAY OUT. THERE IS SUCH A RUSH TO FIND THINGS TO ATTACK THIS PRESIDENT FOR TO BLAME THIS PRESIDENT FOR THAT THEY DON’T CARE IF IT’S RIGHT OR NOT IF THEY CAN GET ONE PERSON TO SAY IT HAPPENED, THEY RUN WITH IT. YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT THROUGH ALL OF THESE INSTANCES. THING WITH CNN RUNNING OUT AND PUSHING THIS NARRATIVE THAT THE PRESIDENT PUT OPERATIVES IN DANGER. IT’S JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE MEDIA TRYING TO BLAME PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR THE MISTAKES AND FAILURES OF THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND I DON’T THINK THEY ARE GOING THE STOP. I WISH I COULD SAY AT SOME POINT THEY WILL LEARN THEIR LESSON. I THINK THE ON THING THAT MAY TEACH THEM THAT THIS ISN’T GOING TO WORK IS WHEN THEY HAVE TO WATCH DONALD TRUMP GET RE-ELECTED AGAIN AND WHEN AGAIN IN NOVEMBER OF 2020, AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER ROOM FULL OF CRYING INDIVIDUALS THIS COME NOVEMBER. AND I DON’T KNOW IF THAT WILL HELP CHANGE. BUT MAYBE THAT WILL BE THE CATALYST THEY NEED TO START FACT CHECKING SOME OF THE STUFF BEFORE THEY RUN OUT JUST TO HURT THE PRESIDENT. JESSE: THIS ISN’T THE FIRST TIME CNN HAS DONE THIS. YOU SAD THE SCARAMUCCI FIRE WHICH WAS FAKE. YOU HAD THE COMEY TESTIMONY STORY, THE COHEN TESTIMONY STORY, BOTH WERE FAKE. DON, JR. HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WIKILEAKS THAT WAS FAKE. DO YOU THINK THE SOURCES ARE JUST FEEDING THEM FAKE NEWS OR WHAT?>>MY GUESS IS THERE IS A MIX. SOMETIMES THEY THINK THEY HAVE SOMETHING SO THEY RUN WITH IT. OTHER TIMES THEY ARE GETTING FED THE INFORMATION AND THEY ARE NOT DOING THE DUE DILIGENCE. SOME OF THESE THINGS WITH A BASIC GOOGLE SEARCH YOU CAN FIND QUICKLY ARE JUST NOT TRUE. THEY ARE NOT PUTTING THE TIME IN BECAUSE THEY ARE SO EAGER AND EXCITED TO TEAR THIS PRESIDENT DOWN. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TIME WHEN WE ARE SO HAPPY TO SEE THE PRESIDENT OF OUR OWN COUNTRY. YET THIS MEDIA IS SALIVATING OVER THOSE MOMENTS. I THINK IT’S SAD, IT’S UNFORTUNATE, AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL START TO LEARN SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY ARE HAVING TO RETRACT SO MANY OF THESE STATEMENTS, BUT I DON’T THINK IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE ONLY WAY THAT DOES IS WHEN THEY WATCH DONALD TRUMP TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE. JESSE: ONE OF THE OTHER WAYS THE LEFT IS TRYING TO TAKE OUT THE PRESIDENT IS WITH IMPEACHMENT. JERRY NADLER IS THE RINGLEADER OF THAT CIRCUS. WE HAVE SOUND OF HIM IN THE 90s SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE ABOUT IMPEACHMENT. LISTEN TO THIS.>>IF OUR CON IN THIS MATTER DOES NOT EARN THE CONFIDENCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN ANY ACTION WE TAKE, ESPECIALLY IF WE SEEK TO OVERTURN THE RESULT OF A FREE ELECTION COULD DIVIDE A NATION FOR YEARS TO COME. JESSE: NADLER IN THE 90s IS SAYING IF IT’S A PARTISAN EXERCISE AND WILL DIVIDE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IT WE SHOULDN’T DO IT.>>THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS BECOME THE PARTY OF CONVENIENCE. THEY ARE CONSTANTLY CHANGING THEIR POSITIONS TO FIT A CONTRAST TO ATTACK THE PRESIDENT. WE SEE IT ON IMMIGRATION AND THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS IT’S ABSURD. YOU CAN’T JUST START TO IMPEACH SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID YOU ARE GOING TO BE BEAT IN AN ELECTION. YOU CAN’T START USING THIS AS A TOOL TO TAKE AWAY THE VOTE OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHICH IS WHAT DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO DO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I DON’T THINK THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT, AND I THINK IT WILL LOOK FOOLISH. THE COUNTRY IS FAR TOO SMART TO FALL FOR WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO PULL. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE DEMOCRATS WILL TRY TO DO SOMETHING AND FAIL. THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING IN CONGRESS. IT WILL GO NOWHERE JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THEY TRIED TO DO. JESSE: YOU MENTIONED THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY CAN’T BEAT THEM. THE PARTY IS GOING SO FAR LEFT, IN FACT EVEN BILL MAHER IS PANICKING ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THE PARTY. HERE IS BILL ON MSNBC SAYING THIS IS A CANCER. WATCH.>>HOW MADDENING IS THAT TO YOU THAT THEY ARE HAVING THIS RACE TO THE FAR LEFT?>>IT’S NOT GOOD IT’S KIND OF A CANCER ON PROGRESSIVISM. YOU HAVE TO STAND UP TO TWITTER. TWITTER ISN’T US. TWITTER ISN’T THE RANK AND FILE DEMOCRAT. IT’S NOT EVEN MOST OF LIBERALS. BUT THEY DON’T DO IT. THIS RACE IS BEGGING FOR SOMEONE TO DO A SISTER SOLE TO DO A SISTER SOME TO DO A SISTER SOLE TO DO A SISTER SOLJA MOMENT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TAXING TOO MUCH AND TAKING EYE AWAY THEIR GUNS AND TRANSWOMEN GET ABORTION RIGHTS, I THINK THAT CAME UP IN THE FIRST DEBATE. I DON’T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO WIN HIS ELECTION. JESSE: I CAN’T BELIEVE I’M SAYING THAT. I THINK BILL MAHER IS RIGHT.>>I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY I AGREE WITH BILL MAHER. IT’S TRUE. I WAS WATCHING THE DEBATES AND I COULDN’T BELIEVE THE THINGS COMING OUT OF THE DEMOCRATS’ MOUTHS. I THOUGHT SURELY THIS IS A “SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE” SKIT. THEY ARE FIGHTING EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO CAN GET FURTHEST TO THE LEFT IT’S TERRIFYING, SOME OF THE IDEA THEY ARE COMING UP WITH. WE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN WE HEARD DEMOCRATS SAY THAT REASON WE HAVE GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY IS BECAUSE OF CORRUPTION. IT’S ENSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION. THE IDEA THEY WANT TO CHALLENGE EVERY BIT OF THAT. THEY WERE FIGHTING OVER HOW TO GO AROUND THE CONSTITUTION AT ONE POINT AND WHETHER THEY COULD JUST DO EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND SAY WHO CARES ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION. IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE TO LISTEN TO SOME OF THE THINGS COMING OUT OF THEIR PLOWTS. — MOUTHS. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL TAKE ADVICE AND LISTEN TO BILL MAHER. IF NOT, IT WILL EVEN SURE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ELECTED FOR FOUR MORE YEARS IN NOVEMBER.
IS THAT NORMAL? ARE IN THE MIDST OF A POLICY ARE IN THE MIDST OF A POLICY RETREAT AFTER GETTING A PEP TALK RETREAT AFTER GETTING A PEP TALK FROM PUMP. FROM PUMP. HE KICKED OFF THE GET-TOGETHER HE KICKED OFF THE GET-TOGETHER BY ATTACKING HIS TWO FAVORITE BY ATTACKING HIS TWO FAVORITE TARGETS. TARGETS. LISTEN. LISTEN.>>IT’S THE DEMOCRATS AND IT’S>>IT’S THE DEMOCRATS AND IT’S THE MEDIA. THE MEDIA. WE’RE FIGHTING TWO BATTLES. WE’RE FIGHTING TWO BATTLES. THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MEDIA. THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MEDIA. IT’S AS IF THEY’RE ONE, BECAUSE IT’S AS IF THEY’RE ONE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ONE. THEY ARE ONE. THEY’RE WORKING TOGETHER. THEY’RE WORKING TOGETHER. THEY’RE COLLUDING AND THEY’RE THEY’RE COLLUDING AND THEY’RE OBSTRUCTING. OBSTRUCTING.>>IT IS A THEME THE PRESIDENT>>IT IS A THEME THE PRESIDENT WENT BACK TO ALL WEEK LONG, WENT BACK TO ALL WEEK LONG, SLAMMING THE MEDIA FOR THE WAY SLAMMING THE MEDIA FOR THE WAY IT COVERED HEADLINES THAT HE IT COVERED HEADLINES THAT HE HIMSELF CREATED, EVERYTHING FROM HIMSELF CREATED, EVERYTHING FROM JOHN BOLTON’S DISMISSAL TO JOHN BOLTON’S DISMISSAL TO WARNINGS ABOUT HURRICANE DORIAN. WARNINGS ABOUT HURRICANE DORIAN. I HAVE A REPORTER FOR THE NEW I HAVE A REPORTER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES AND NBC SENIOR MEDIA YORK TIMES AND NBC SENIOR MEDIA REPORTER. REPORTER. DILLON, TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS DILLON, TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS LINE OF ATTACK, ABOUT HOW THE LINE OF ATTACK, ABOUT HOW THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MEDIA ARE DEMOCRATS AND THE MEDIA ARE CONSPIRING AGAINST THE CONSPIRING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. IS THERE SOMETHING THE MEDIA OR IS THERE SOMETHING THE MEDIA OR THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE DOING TO THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE DOING TO PUSH BACK? PUSH BACK?>>WELL, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL,>>WELL, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE DEMOCRATS ARE ATTACKING THE DEMOCRATS ARE ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT AND REASONABLY SO, AS PRESIDENT AND REASONABLY SO, AS JULIAN CASTRO SAID IN LAST JULIAN CASTRO SAID IN LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE, THAT’S POLITICS, NIGHT’S DEBATE, THAT’S POLITICS, THAT’S WHAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD THAT’S WHAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE DOING. BE DOING. I THINK THE MEDIA HAS BEEN DOING I THINK THE MEDIA HAS BEEN DOING MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE OF MORE THAN ITS FAIR SHARE OF SCRUTINY ON THE PRESIDENT AND SCRUTINY ON THE PRESIDENT AND THIS ADMINISTRATION AND I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION AND I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE THAT MOST OF YOU COULD ARGUE THAT MOST OF THAT IS COMMENSURATE WITH A LOT THAT IS COMMENSURATE WITH A LOT OF THE SORT OF ABNORMAL ASPECTS OF THE SORT OF ABNORMAL ASPECTS OF THIS PRESIDENCY. OF THIS PRESIDENCY. WHAT I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, WHAT I WHAT I WOULD SAY, THOUGH, WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT PARTICULARLY THOUGHT ABOUT PARTICULARLY WATCHING THE SPLIT SCREEN WATCHING THE SPLIT SCREEN BETWEEN LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE AND BETWEEN LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE AND PRESIDENT TRUMP’S REMARKS IN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S REMARKS IN BALTIMORE, IS THIS QUESTION OF BALTIMORE, IS THIS QUESTION OF BRAND ENGAGEMENT. BRAND ENGAGEMENT. HOW ARE THE INSTITUTIONS OF THE HOW ARE THE INSTITUTIONS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THE INSTITUTION OF THE MEDIA, HOW IS INSTITUTION OF THE MEDIA, HOW IS THAT DOING WHAT THE AMERICAN THAT DOING WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE RIGHT NOW — AND MY GUESS PEOPLE RIGHT NOW — AND MY GUESS IS IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO IS IS IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO IS SORT OF ON THE FENCE ABOUT SORT OF ON THE FENCE ABOUT POLITICS, WHO MAYBE VOTED FOR POLITICS, WHO MAYBE VOTED FOR TRUMP LAST CYCLE, IS MAYBE A TRUMP LAST CYCLE, IS MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DISENCHANTED NOW AND LITTLE MORE DISENCHANTED NOW AND YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT DEMOCRATS ARE CONDUCTING DEMOCRATS ARE CONDUCTING THEMSELVES ON THE DEBATE STAGE THEMSELVES ON THE DEBATE STAGE AND YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT AT AND YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THAT AT TIMES THE MEDIA CAN SORT OF BEAT TIMES THE MEDIA CAN SORT OF BEAT THE DEAD HORSE OF SOME OF THE THE DEAD HORSE OF SOME OF THE MISTAKES THAT THIS MISTAKES THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE, I ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE, I WOULDN’T FAULT PEOPLE FOR WOULDN’T FAULT PEOPLE FOR FALLING VICTIM TO TRUMP’S FALLING VICTIM TO TRUMP’S ARGUMENT THAT HE’S JUST A VICTIM ARGUMENT THAT HE’S JUST A VICTIM OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCRATS. OF THE MEDIA AND DEMOCRATS. I DON’T THINK THAT’S TRUE, BUT I I DON’T THINK THAT’S TRUE, BUT I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAS SOME UNDERSTAND HOW THAT HAS SOME SWAY WITH UNDECIDED VOTERS WHO SWAY WITH UNDECIDED VOTERS WHO ARE JUST GETTING SICK OF THIS ARE JUST GETTING SICK OF THIS CONSTANT SORT OF ANIMOSITY AND CONSTANT SORT OF ANIMOSITY AND BICKERING THAT’S GOING ON. BICKERING THAT’S GOING ON. SO I THINK DEMOCRATS NEED TO PAY SO I THINK DEMOCRATS NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AND THINK MORE ATTENTION TO THAT AND THINK MORE STRATEGIC AS THEY GO FORWARD STRATEGIC AS THEY GO FORWARD INTO THE 2020 ELECTION. INTO THE 2020 ELECTION.>>ELI, WASN’T THIS THE PERFECT>>ELI, WASN’T THIS THE PERFECT WEEK TO SHOW HOW THE PRESIDENT WEEK TO SHOW HOW THE PRESIDENT LIVES AND DIES BY THE MEDIA? LIVES AND DIES BY THE MEDIA? IT WASN’T ENOUGH JUST TO GET RID IT WASN’T ENOUGH JUST TO GET RID OF JOHN BOLTON, HE HAD TO GET OF JOHN BOLTON, HE HAD TO GET RID OF HIM AND THEN CONTROL THE RID OF HIM AND THEN CONTROL THE NARRATIVE AROUND IT. NARRATIVE AROUND IT.>>THE PRESIDENT NEEDS THE MEDIA>>THE PRESIDENT NEEDS THE MEDIA AND DEMOCRATS AND ENEMIES, AND DEMOCRATS AND ENEMIES, BECAUSE HE NEED EX EXCUSES. BECAUSE HE NEED EX EXCUSES. HE NEEDS TO TELL VOTERS WHY HE HE NEEDS TO TELL VOTERS WHY HE HASN’T GOTTEN THINGS DONE AND HASN’T GOTTEN THINGS DONE AND WHY PEOPLE ARE CONSPIRING WHY PEOPLE ARE CONSPIRING AGAINST HIM. AGAINST HIM. THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO HAS THIS IS A CANDIDATE WHO HAS ALWAYS TAPPED INTO THE PARANOID ALWAYS TAPPED INTO THE PARANOID STREAK AND POLITICS AND THE NEXT STREAK AND POLITICS AND THE NEXT 14 MONTHS ARE GOING TO BE NO 14 MONTHS ARE GOING TO BE NO DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT. AS FAR AS THE COVERAGE AND THE AS FAR AS THE COVERAGE AND THE BOLTON NARRATIVE, YOU’RE EXACTLY BOLTON NARRATIVE, YOU’RE EXACTLY RIGHT. RIGHT. YOU HAD THE PRESIDENT COME OUT YOU HAD THE PRESIDENT COME OUT YESTERDAY AND BASICALLY SAY, OH, YESTERDAY AND BASICALLY SAY, OH, THERE ARE 15 PEOPLE NOW WHO WANT THERE ARE 15 PEOPLE NOW WHO WANT IT, BECAUSE IT’S SO FUN TO WORK IT, BECAUSE IT’S SO FUN TO WORK FOR DONALD TRUMP. FOR DONALD TRUMP. THAT IS ANOTHER REACTION, THAT IS ANOTHER REACTION, EXPLICITLY TO MEDIA REPORTS THAT EXPLICITLY TO MEDIA REPORTS THAT THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO IS HARD THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO IS HARD TO WORK FOR. TO WORK FOR. THIS GUY IS ALWAYS REFLECTING THIS GUY IS ALWAYS REFLECTING THE COVERAGE AND REACTING TO THE THE COVERAGE AND REACTING TO THE COVERAGE AND THEN HOLDING UP THE COVERAGE AND THEN HOLDING UP THE COVERAGE AS EVIDENCE OF SOME COVERAGE AS EVIDENCE OF SOME SORT OF CONSPIRACY. SORT OF CONSPIRACY.>>DILLON, WHAT DO YOU DO?>>DILLON, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU’RE SAYING THAT THE MEDIA YOU’RE SAYING THAT THE MEDIA NEEDS TO BE MORE STRATEGIC, NEEDS TO BE MORE STRATEGIC, WE’RE OBSESSING OVER EVERY WE’RE OBSESSING OVER EVERY SINGLE THING THE PRESIDENT SAYS. SINGLE THING THE PRESIDENT SAYS. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO ON 9/11 THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO ON 9/11 IS TWEETING 18 TIMES AND ONLY IS TWEETING 18 TIMES AND ONLY THREE TIMES ABOUT SEPTEMBER THREE TIMES ABOUT SEPTEMBER 11th. 11th. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HANDLE HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO HANDLE THAT? THAT?>>YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND I>>YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND I GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THERE’S GO BACK TO THE FACT THAT THERE’S SO MANY ABNORMAL ASPECTS TO THIS SO MANY ABNORMAL ASPECTS TO THIS PRESIDENCY AND I THINK THE PRESIDENCY AND I THINK THE COVERAGE SHOWS THAT. COVERAGE SHOWS THAT. THIS PRESIDENT AND THIS PRESIDENT AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN ADMINISTRATION HAVE BEEN ABNORMAL FOR MULTIPLE YEARS AND ABNORMAL FOR MULTIPLE YEARS AND THERE’S THIS TENDENCY IN THE THERE’S THIS TENDENCY IN THE MEDIA TO SORT OF LIGHT OUR HAIR MEDIA TO SORT OF LIGHT OUR HAIR ON FIRE OVER EVERY INSTANCE THAT ON FIRE OVER EVERY INSTANCE THAT SORT OF REINFORCES THE NARRATIVE SORT OF REINFORCES THE NARRATIVE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THIS THAT WE HAVE ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. AND I’M NOT SAYING THAT THAT’S AND I’M NOT SAYING THAT THAT’S EVEN NECESSARILY WRONG OR EVEN NECESSARILY WRONG OR INACCURATE OR ILL-PLACED. INACCURATE OR ILL-PLACED. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE WAY WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT THE WAY THAT IT’S AFFECTING THE AMERICAN THAT IT’S AFFECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE — LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU PEOPLE — LOOK, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST LAUNCHED A PODCAST ABOUT JUST LAUNCHED A PODCAST ABOUT THIS. THIS. WE ARE LIVING IN VERY DIVISIVE WE ARE LIVING IN VERY DIVISIVE TIMES AND I THINK THERE ARE A TIMES AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TUNING OUT LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TUNING OUT OF THE CONVERSATION AND ARE, OF THE CONVERSATION AND ARE, THEREFORE, SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE THEREFORE, SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE ARGUMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS ARGUMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT IS MAKING. MAKING. AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE CAREFULLY ABOUT HOW WHAT WE DO CAREFULLY ABOUT HOW WHAT WE DO AS THE MEDIA PLAYS WITH AS THE MEDIA PLAYS WITH AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.>>AND NOW DILLON, THEY HAVE A
SHANNON?>>Shannon: THANKS, KRISTIN. THANK YOU. LIVE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. SO THE STRONGER THAN EXPECTED SHOWING AT THE PRESIDENT’S FUND RAISER INSPIED OF THE CONDEMNATION OF CONSERVATIVES MAY LOOK LIKE THE UNEASE. VICTOR DAVIS HANSON PUTS IT TONIGHT IN AN OP-ED, HE SAID ALL REFLECT A LACK OF PROGRESSIVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY CAN VOTE TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE IN THE NEXT ELECTION AND INSTEAD SEEK TO USE EXTRAORDINARY MEANS TO ABORT HIS PRESIDENCY. JOINING ME NOW,DAY BROWN AND DINESH D’SOUZA. AND WE SAW THESE COMMENTS FROM DONNIE DEUTSCHE. HERE’S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.>>YOU CAN’T SAY, WELL, I LIKE HIS ECONOMIC POLICY AND WHATNOT. BUT I DISAGREE — YOU OWN IT. YOU OWN THE BLOOD. YOU OWN CHARLOTTESVILLE. THAT’S WHAT SWING VOTERS HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND AND BE SHAMED INTO.>>DINESH, YOUR REACTION.>>AMERICAN POLITICS IS ENTERING A DANGEROUS PHASE THAT I HAVEN’T SEEN IN MY ADULT LIFETIME. IT’S A PHASE IN WHICH DISCUSSION AND DEBATE IS REPLACED WITH THREATS AND INTIMIDATION. THOSE CAN EXKA LAT THOSE CAN EX K LAT THOSE CAN EX KA AT THOSE CAN EX KA LAI THOSE CAN EXKAA LAI THOSE CAN EXKA LLAI THOSE CAN EXKA LATI THOSE CAN EXKA LATE — ESCALATE QUICKLY. WE’VE SEEN IT IN EUROPE WHERE IT TURNS INTO BLOWS AND FIGHTS IN THE STREETS. I’M WORRIED ABOUT WHERE OUR POLITICS IS GOING. THIS IS A CASE WHERE WHEN ONE SIDE STARTS, THE OTHER SIDE HAS TO RESPOND. THE TRUMPSTERS WON’T TAKE THIS LYING DOWN. SOON THEY’LL RELEASE JOAQUIN’S FAMILY ADDRESSES. THIS IS A GAME THAT TWO PEOPLE CAN PLAY.>>Shannon: DO YOU WORRY THAT THE DEMOCRATS FACE BACKLASH? THEY’RE PLAYING WITH FIRE HERE. I THINK OF HILLARY CLINTON TALKING ABOUT THE BASKET OF DEPLORABLES. PEOPLE STARTED TO SAY LISTEN, YOU’VE COMPLETELY DISRESPECTED ME. WHY WOULD I THINK ABOUT VOTING FOR YOU. NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING IF YOU VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT, YOU’RE A WHITE SUPREMACIST. ARE YOU GOING TO ALIENATE HALF THE COUNTRY?>>YEAH, I REJECT THAT PREMISE. IF YOU LOOK AT 2018, WHEN DEMOCRATS TOOK BACK THE HOUSE, THEY DID THAT BY WINNING IN PERSUADING HEARTS AND MINDS AND FOLKS THAT VOTED FOR THE PRESIDENT IN 2016. SO THERE’S A PROVEN PATH HERE WHERE IF YOU MAKE THE BEST ARGUMENT AND YOU COME AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF YOUR VALUES AND WHAT I STAND FOR AS A CANDIDATE — AND I AGREE WITH DINESH. DEBATE IS THE HEALTHY WAY TO GO. BUT DEMOCRATS CAN WIN ON THE MERITS.>>Shannon: BUT CALLING PEOPLE WHITE SUPREMACIST, IS THAT DEBATING THINGS ON THE MERITS OR IS THAT GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SAYING LISTEN, I’M NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT. NOW THAT YOU LABELLED ME THAT WAY, I WON’T LISTEN TO ANYTHING ELSE YOU SAY?>>THAT’S DIRECTED AT ME. I’M SORRY, DINESH.>>I WAS SAYING WE’VE HAD TWO MASS SHOOTINGS. IN ONE CASE, THERE WAS A GUY THAT WAS ANTI-IMMIGRANT A WHITE SUPREMACIST. THAT WAS PART OF HIS MOTIVE. HE WAS PROGRESSIVE ON OTHER ISSUES. WHITE SUPREMACIST WAS PART OF THE MIX. THE OTHER ONE WOULD VOTE FOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND PRO ANTIFA. BUT WE HEAR VERY LITTLE ABOUT THAT SHOOTER. THERE’S A BROADER FORCE AT WORK HERE AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE ANTIFA HAS PRODUCED ITS FIRST MASS KILLER.>>PART OF THE DISTINCTION AND THE COVERAGE, THE KILLER IN TEXAS PUBLISHED A MANIFESTO. WE HAVE THE WRITTEN BODY OF WORK FROM WHICH WE CAN EXAMINE MOTIVATION.>>Shannon: PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW AS WELL. I DON’T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TAKEN TIME — A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY I WON’T READ A WORD. I GET THAT BUT HE’S WORRIED ABOUT CORPORATE PROFITS AND NOT RIGHT LEANING ISSUES. CLEARLY HE HAD AN ISSUE WITH RACE. THERE WAS OTHER STUFF THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU READ IT.>>I’LL GO BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION. THE NOTION OF PAINTING IN BROAD STROKES ANYBODY THAT VOTED FOR THE PRESIDENT IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST, OF COURSE NOT. IT’S RIDICULOUS. THE NUANCE IS LOST HERE. LET’S HAVE IT NOW. THE POINT IS THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK IN RED RICK AND WHEN THE PRESIDENT SPEAKS IN RHETORIC THAT IS RACIALIZED AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS SAYING WE IDENTIFY WITH THIS PRESIDENT, HE’S SPEAKING ON OUR BEHALF, THAT’S THE PROBLEM. I’M GLAD TO SEE THE PRESIDENT OUTRIGHT CONDEMNED THAT FOLLOWING THE SHOOTINGS. WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO IN TONING DOWN THAT RHETORIC AND MAKING IT CLEAR THAT WHITE SUPREMACISTS HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY AT LARGE.>>Shannon: FINALLY TO YOU, DINESH.>>I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS SO-CALLED RACIALIZED RHETORIC THAT YOU’RE ACCUSING TRUMP OF USING RELIES ON CONFLATING A COUPLE OF DISTINCTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, CONFLATING THE DISSTING — DISTINCTION OF IMMIGRANTS. I’M A LEGAL IMMIGRANT. INFESTATION WAS THE TERM ELIJAH CUMMINGS USED ABOUT HIS OWN DISTRICT. INFESTATION REFERS TO A STATE OF THINGS, WHEN THINGS ARE SO BAD. YOU THINK THAT TRUMP WOULD HESITATE TO CALL SAN FRANCISCO NANCY PELOSI’S DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE, INFESTED WITH THE SAME KIND OF TERRIBLE SCHOOLS AND SAME KIND OF TRASH –>>Shannon: LET’S LET DINESH FINISH AND WE HAVE TO GO.>>WELL, THE POINT I’M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT TRUMP’S ATTACKS ARE POLITICAL. THEY’RE NOT RACIAL. HE ATTACKS WITH THE SAME GLEE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WHITE OR BLACK OR WHATEVER. THERE’S A CERTAIN KIND OF PROMISCUITY IN TRUMP.
BUT WE START WITH THE PRESIDENT
ATTACKING THE LATEST RIVAL FROM ATTACKING THE LATEST RIVAL FROM
HIS OWN PARTY READY TO CHALLENGE HIS OWN PARTY READY TO CHALLENGE
HIM FOR THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2020. HIM FOR THE WHITE HOUSE IN 2020.
FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR
AND CONGRESSMAN MARK SANFORD, AND CONGRESSMAN MARK SANFORD,
JUST ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS GOING JUST ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS GOING
TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL. TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
HES GOING TO TAKE ON PRESIDENT HES GOING TO TAKE ON PRESIDENT
TRUMP. TRUMP. JUST A FEW HOURS AGO THE JUST A FEW HOURS AGO THE PRESIDENT DOING WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOING WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES, HE TWEETED ABOUT
IT.SIDENT DOES, HE TWEETED ABOUT IT. HE CALLED OUT THE BIGGEST HE CALLED OUT THE BIGGEST SCANDAL OF SANFORDS CAREER IN SCANDAL OF SANFORDS CAREER IN PUBLIC SERVICE WHEN HE WENT MIA
AS GOVERNOR SO VISIT A WOMAN HE AS GOVERNOR SO VISIT A WOMAN HE
WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH IN WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH IN
ARGENTINA. ARGENTINA. HE LUMPED HIM IN WITH THE TWO
OTHERS RUNNING AGAINST HIM, AND OTHERS RUNNING AGAINST HIM, AND
CALLED THEM THE THREE STOOGES. CALLED THEM THE THREE STOOGES.
MARK SANFORD JOINS ME NOW. MARK SANFORD JOINS ME NOW.
HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU?
PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU. PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.
>>WHICH STOOGE WOULD YOU BE?>>WHICH STOOGE WOULD YOU BE?
>>I DONT KNOW.>>I DONT KNOW.
>>IF YOU MOUNT THE SERIOUS RACE>>IF YOU MOUNT THE SERIOUS RACE
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT YOU CAN AGAINST THE PRESIDENT YOU CAN
EXPECT TWEETS LIKE THESE. EXPECT TWEETS LIKE THESE.
>>THIS IS WHAT HE DOES.>>THIS IS WHAT HE DOES.
WHATS YOUR RESPONSE? WHATS YOUR RESPONSE?
>>MY RESPONSE IS WE NEED A>>MY RESPONSE IS WE NEED A
CHANGE FROM THE WAY HES CHANGE FROM THE WAY HES
PEJORATIVE ON EVERYBODY WHATS PEJORATIVE ON EVERYBODY WHATS
WEIRD, THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A WEIRD, THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A
MOMENT, AS A REPUBLICAN, I VOTED MOMENT, AS A REPUBLICAN, I VOTED
WITH HIM 90% OF THE TIME, 90% OF WITH HIM 90% OF THE TIME, 90% OF
THE TIME, AND IN NORMAL THE TIME, AND IN NORMAL
POLITICAL CIRCLES, IN THE POLITICAL CIRCLES, IN THE
BUSINESS WORLD AND FAMILY WORLD, BUSINESS WORLD AND FAMILY WORLD,
I LOVE MY BROTHERS AND MY SISTER I LOVE MY BROTHERS AND MY SISTER
BUT IM NOT WITH THEM 90% OF THE BUT IM NOT WITH THEM 90% OF THE
TIME NOR ARE THEY WITH ME 90% OF TIME NOR ARE THEY WITH ME 90% OF
THE TIME. THE TIME. BUT PART AND PARCEL TO HUMAN
RELATIONS IS ACCEPTING THERE CAN RELATIONS IS ACCEPTING THERE CAN
BE DIFFERENCES. BE DIFFERENCES.
BUT RIGHT NOW THE SUN, MOON AND BUT RIGHT NOW THE SUN, MOON AND
STARS TOO OFTEN BASICALLY ORBIT STARS TOO OFTEN BASICALLY ORBIT
AROUND DONALD TRUMP. AROUND DONALD TRUMP.
IF ITS NOT PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE IF ITS NOT PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE
TO HIM, OR IDEA ALLEGIANCE, IF TO HIM, OR IDEA ALLEGIANCE, IF
ITS NOT PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE, ITS NOT PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE,
ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO DO IS TO WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO DO IS TO
BREAK FROM WHAT HES DOING, BREAK FROM WHAT HES DOING,
WHICH IS TO CRITICIZE EVERYBODY WHICH IS TO CRITICIZE EVERYBODY
AND EVERYTHING THATS NOT WITHIN AND EVERYTHING THATS NOT WITHIN
HIS CIRCLE, AND TO GO BACK TO HIS CIRCLE, AND TO GO BACK TO
OLD STYLE POLITICS WHERE WE CAN OLD STYLE POLITICS WHERE WE CAN
AGREE TO DISAGREE ON OCCASION, AGREE TO DISAGREE ON OCCASION,
BUT AS REPUBLICANS, AS BUT AS REPUBLICANS, AS DEMOCRATS, AS INDEPENDENTS HAVE
A REAL CONVERSATION.NDENTS HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION.>>IF YOURE HAVING THAT KIND OF>>IF YOURE HAVING THAT KIND OF CONVERSATION, IF YOURE RUNNING CONVERSATION, IF YOURE RUNNING THAT KIND OF CAMPAIGN, THIS THAT KIND OF CAMPAIGN, THIS SO-CALLED OLD SCHOOL CAMPAIGN SO-CALLED OLD SCHOOL CAMPAIGN AND HES DOING WHAT HE DOES, AND HES DOING WHAT HE DOES, WHICH HAS BEEN POLITICALLY WHICH HAS BEEN POLITICALLY SUCCESSFUL FOR HIM, HOW WOULD
YOU COUNTER THAT?M, HOW WOULD YOU COUNTER THAT?
>>I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT>>I WOULD CHALLENGE THAT
ASSUMPTION THOUGH. ASSUMPTION THOUGH.
WHAT YOU SAW IN THE WHAT YOU SAW IN THE
CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS WAS CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS WAS
TRUMP FATIGUE. TRUMP FATIGUE.
I SAW A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAT I SAW A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT THAT
WAS REPUBLICAN FOR ABOUT 50 WAS REPUBLICAN FOR ABOUT 50
YEARS. YEARS. FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 50 YEARS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 50 YEARS IT WENT DEMOCRAT BECAUSE IT WENT DEMOCRAT BECAUSE SUBURBAN WOMEN SAID NO MORE.
YOUNG MILLENNIALS SAID NO MORE. YOUNG MILLENNIALS SAID NO MORE.
AND I THINK THAT THERES BEEN AND I THINK THAT THERES BEEN
EROSION TO PEOPLES, YOU KNOW, EROSION TO PEOPLES, YOU KNOW,
TOLERANCE FOR THE WAY IN WHICH TOLERANCE FOR THE WAY IN WHICH
HES INTOLERANT TO SEEMINGLY HES INTOLERANT TO SEEMINGLY
MOST ANYBODY OUT THERE. MOST ANYBODY OUT THERE.
THINK ABOUT THIS, PAUL RYAN, A THINK ABOUT THIS, PAUL RYAN, A
LOSER, THOUGH HE ORCHESTRATED LOSER, THOUGH HE ORCHESTRATED
THE TAX PLAN PRESIDENT TRUMP THE TAX PLAN PRESIDENT TRUMP
TAKES CREDIT FOR. TAKES CREDIT FOR.
I MEAN, SOMEBODY LIKE GENERAL I MEAN, SOMEBODY LIKE GENERAL
MATTIS OR GENERAL KELLY, PEOPLE MATTIS OR GENERAL KELLY, PEOPLE
WITH DISTINGUISHED CAREERS ARE WITH DISTINGUISHED CAREERS ARE
LOSERS OUTSIDE THE TRUMP ORBIT. LOSERS OUTSIDE THE TRUMP ORBIT.
>>HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?>>HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
>>ITS THE PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE>>ITS THE PERSONAL ALLEGIANCE
THING WERE TALKING ABOUT. THING WERE TALKING ABOUT.
>>WE COULD PLAY THIS GAME ALL>>WE COULD PLAY THIS GAME ALL
DAY, A NUMBER OF OTHERS HAVE DAY, A NUMBER OF OTHERS HAVE
DECIDED TO WORK FOR THIS DECIDED TO WORK FOR THIS
PRESIDENT AND ALL THE SUDDEN PRESIDENT AND ALL THE SUDDEN
THEY FIND THEMSELVES ON THE THEY FIND THEMSELVES ON THE
OUTS. OUTS.>>EITHER ALL IN OR –>>EITHER ALL IN OR –>>WHAT HAPPENS –>>WHAT HAPPENS –>>THATS A WHOLE DIFFERENT>>THATS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONVERSATION, YEAH. CONVERSATION, YEAH.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED>>WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED WITH HIM? WITH HIM?>>I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS HE>>I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS HE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND HE SAW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND HE FIGURES I DONT WANT A PRIMARY FIGURES I DONT WANT A PRIMARY CHALLENGE IF THE COST OF CHALLENGE IF THE COST OF ADMISSION, IN QUOTES, STAYING ADMISSION, IN QUOTES, STAYING RELEVANT AS HES PUT IT, IS — I RELEVANT AS HES PUT IT, IS — I WONT — GETTING INTO THAT ORBIT
OF TRUMP, WELL LEAVE IT ATORBIT OF TRUMP, WELL LEAVE IT AT
THAT, THATS WHAT ILL DO AND THAT, THATS WHAT ILL DO AND
THATS WHAT HES DONE. THATS WHAT HES DONE.
>>IS THE PRICE OF ADMISSION>>IS THE PRICE OF ADMISSION
SELLING YOUR SOUL? SELLING YOUR SOUL?
>>I DIDNT SAY THAT.>>I DIDNT SAY THAT.
THATS WHERE I WAS CATCHING MY THATS WHERE I WAS CATCHING MY
WORDS THERE. WORDS THERE.>>THATS WHAT YOU WANTED TO>>THATS WHAT YOU WANTED TO SAY. SAY.>>I WASNT SAYING THAT.>>I WASNT SAYING THAT.>>LETS TALK ABOUT THESE STATES>>LETS TALK ABOUT THESE STATES WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY NOT EVEN BE A PRIMARY OR CAUCUS, NOT EVEN BE A PRIMARY OR CAUCUS, FOUR STATES HAVE EITHER
CANCELLED OR ARE CONSIDERING CANCELLED OR ARE CONSIDERING
CANCELLING THEIR PRIMARIES OR CANCELLING THEIR PRIMARIES OR
CAUCUSES, WE HAVE A MAP, CAUCUSES, WE HAVE A MAP,
ARIZONA, KANSAS, NEVADA, OUR ARIZONA, KANSAS, NEVADA, OUR
STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AS WELL. STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AS WELL.
HOW DO YOU RUN IN AN ELECTION HOW DO YOU RUN IN AN ELECTION
WITHOUT AN ELECTION DAY? WITHOUT AN ELECTION DAY?
>>WELL, FORTUNATELY, SOUTH>>WELL, FORTUNATELY, SOUTH
CAROLINAS, AS IMPORTANT AS IT CAROLINAS, AS IMPORTANT AS IT
IS TO YOU AND ME, IT AT THE END IS TO YOU AND ME, IT AT THE END
OF THE DAY IS NOT THE NATIONAL OF THE DAY IS NOT THE NATIONAL
ELECTIONS. ELECTIONS. ITS A STATE WITHIN, WHAT WILL ITS A STATE WITHIN, WHAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE A NATIONAL HOPEFULLY BE A NATIONAL ELECTION. ELECTION. SO I WOULD SAY THERE ARE TWO SO I WOULD SAY THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT STAND OUT FOR ME.
ONE, THINK ABOUT HOW UNUSUAL. ONE, THINK ABOUT HOW UNUSUAL
THIS IS POLITICALLY. THIS IS POLITICALLY.
IF YOU COULD STACK UP A 90% WIN, IF YOU COULD STACK UP A 90% WIN,
WHICH ALLEGES IVE GOT 90% WHICH ALLEGES IVE GOT 90%
SUPPORT. SUPPORT. IF YOU CAN — IN THE WORLD OF
POLITICS, IF YOU CAN STACK UP A POLITICS, IF YOU CAN STACK UP A
90% WIN IN THE FIRST OF THE 90% WIN IN THE FIRST OF THE
SOUTH PRIMARY, GIVEN ITS SOUTH PRIMARY, GIVEN ITS
IMPLICATIONS THE IN OTHER IMPLICATIONS THE IN OTHER
PRIMARIES IN THE SOUTH, YOUD DO PRIMARIES IN THE SOUTH, YOUD DO
IT. IT. WHAT IT SAYS TO ME IS THEIR OWN WHAT IT SAYS TO ME IS THEIR OWN TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS TEAM HAS LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND SEES THEIR SUPPORT AS A MILE AND SEES THEIR SUPPORT AS A MILE WIDE AND INCH DEEP, AND YOU WIDE AND INCH DEEP, AND YOU WOULD NOT CANCEL WERE IT NOT FOR WOULD NOT CANCEL WERE IT NOT FOR PERSONAL WORRIES.
THE ABILITY OF POLITICAL THE ABILITY OF POLITICAL
ORGANIZATION IN THAT STATE IN A ORGANIZATION IN THAT STATE IN A
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. I THINK THAT THATS INTERESTING.
THE OTHER THING THAT, TO ME, IS THE OTHER THING THAT, TO ME, IS
INTERESTING IS, ARE WE TAKING INTERESTING IS, ARE WE TAKING
OUR CUES FROM NORTH KOREA? OUR CUES FROM NORTH KOREA?
I MEAN, THE IDEA OF A I MEAN, THE IDEA OF A
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SAYING CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SAYING
WERE GOING TO STAND UP AGAINST WERE GOING TO STAND UP AGAINST
BIG MEDIA BECAUSE WE DONT WANT BIG MEDIA BECAUSE WE DONT WANT
TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO BUT WERE TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO BUT WERE
OKAY WITH THE IDEA OF A COUPLE OKAY WITH THE IDEA OF A COUPLE
FOLKS IN A SMOKE-FILLED ROOM FOLKS IN A SMOKE-FILLED ROOM
THAT DECIDING THE COMMON FOLK OF THAT DECIDING THE COMMON FOLK OF
SOUTH CAROLINA CANT PARTICIPATE SOUTH CAROLINA CANT PARTICIPATE
IN MAKING THEIR VOICES HEARD IN IN MAKING THEIR VOICES HEARD IN
THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, THIS IS THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, THIS IS
GETTING WEIRD. GETTING WEIRD.
AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO CALL IT AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO CALL IT
AS SUCH. AS SUCH.>>ARE YOU PLANNING ANY LEGAL>>ARE YOU PLANNING ANY LEGAL CHALLENGES IN THESE STATES? CHALLENGES IN THESE STATES?>>I DONT KNOW.>>I DONT KNOW. WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL WERE GOING TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. OPTIONS. BUT, AGAIN, YOU CAN SPEND A LOT BUT, AGAIN, YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO GO AFTER, YOU OF TIME TRYING TO GO AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE — THE 5 MILLION KNOW, THE — THE 5 MILLION PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP SOUTH PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP SOUTH CAROLINA OR AFTER THE MORE THAN
300 MILLION PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP 300 MILLION PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP
OUR COUNTRY AND THATS PROBABLY OUR COUNTRY AND THATS PROBABLY
WHERE ILL FOCUS. WHERE ILL FOCUS.
>>YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS>>YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS
A LONG SHOT, THE ODDS ARE A LONG SHOT, THE ODDS ARE
STACKED AGAINST YOU. STACKED AGAINST YOU.
>>SURE.>>SURE.>>HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ABOUT
MARK SANFORD REALLY WANTING TO MARK SANFORD REALLY WANTING TO
BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES AND HOW MUCH OF THIS IS STATES AND HOW MUCH OF THIS IS
ABOUT MARK SANFORD NOT WANTING ABOUT MARK SANFORD NOT WANTING
DONALD TRUMP TO BE PRESIDENT OF DONALD TRUMP TO BE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES FOR ANOTHER THE UNITED STATES FOR ANOTHER
FOUR YEARS? FOUR YEARS?>>OR MAYBE ITS A THIRD OPTION
WHICH IS, WHAT IT IS FOR ME, I WHICH IS, WHAT IT IS FOR ME, I
BELIEVE IN CERTAIN IDEAS. BELIEVE IN CERTAIN IDEAS.
AND YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH AND YOU AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH
OTHER FOR A LONG TIME. OTHER FOR A LONG TIME.
WEVE OVERLAPPED IN YOU IN YOUR WEVE OVERLAPPED IN YOU IN YOUR
WORLD AND ME IN MINE. WORLD AND ME IN MINE.
I THINK ANYBODY OUT THERE, I THINK ANYBODY OUT THERE,
FRIEND OR FOE, WOULD SAY I HAVE FRIEND OR FOE, WOULD SAY I HAVE
CONSISTENTLY FOUGHT ON BEHALF OF CONSISTENTLY FOUGHT ON BEHALF OF
THE TAXPAYER, WITH YOUR THE TAXPAYER, WITH YOUR
POCKETBOOK OR YOUR WALLET, AND POCKETBOOK OR YOUR WALLET, AND
THIS ISSUE OF DEBTS IN THIS ISSUE OF DEBTS IN
GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS NOT A NEW GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS NOT A NEW
ISSUE. ISSUE. THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO ME,
THEIR POINT WAS, MARK, YOUVE THEIR POINT WAS, MARK, YOUVE
GOT 25 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE GOT 25 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE
INVESTED. INVESTED. WHAT IS SOME CHAPTER, WHETHER WHAT IS SOME CHAPTER, WHETHER THATS MONTHS OR WHETHER THATS THATS MONTHS OR WHETHER THATS A YEAR PLUS, GOING FORWARD GIVEN A YEAR PLUS, GOING FORWARD GIVEN HOW MUCH TIME YOUVE ALREADY HOW MUCH TIME YOUVE ALREADY INVESTED IN THIS SUBJECT AND INVESTED IN THIS SUBJECT AND ITS NOT JUST THAT. ITS NOT JUST THAT. ITS THE OTHER THEMES I TALKED
ABOUT IN MY CONCESSION SPEECH ABOUT IN MY CONCESSION SPEECH
ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IN ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO IN
TERMS OF WHERE WERE GOING IN TERMS OF WHERE WERE GOING IN
TERMS OF POLITICAL NORMS AND TERMS OF POLITICAL NORMS AND
HUMILITY AND TONE IN THE PARTY, HUMILITY AND TONE IN THE PARTY,
WHERE WERE GOING ON TRADE, A WHERE WERE GOING ON TRADE, A
WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES NEED TO BE WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES NEED TO BE
TALKED ABOUT AND WHETHER THAT TALKED ABOUT AND WHETHER THAT
ENDS UP BEING JUST A ENDS UP BEING JUST A
CONVERSATION, OR END UP CONVERSATION, OR END UP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
I DONT KNOW. I DONT KNOW. THE VOTERS DECIDE THAT ONE. THE VOTERS DECIDE THAT ONE.>>THE SANFORD VOTER, IT SOUNDS>>THE SANFORD VOTER, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SANFORD VOTER IS A LIKE THE SANFORD VOTER IS A SUBURBAN WOMAN, SOMEONE WHOS
CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPIRALING CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPIRALING
DEBTS AND DEFICITS IN THIS DEBTS AND DEFICITS IN THIS
COUNTRY, SOMEONE WHO IS ALIGNING COUNTRY, SOMEONE WHO IS ALIGNING
WITH YOU WITH REGARDS TO TRADE. WITH YOU WITH REGARDS TO TRADE.
WHO ELSE IS THE SANFORD VOTE WHO ELSE IS THE SANFORD VOTE
SNER. SNER.>>WELL, NO, THIS IS — THE BIG
QUESTION OF MY CAMPAIGN.THE BIG QUESTION OF MY CAMPAIGN.
IF IM RIGHT ON MY HUNCH, THE IF IM RIGHT ON MY HUNCH, THE
CAMPAIGN WILL BE LONG-LIVED. CAMPAIGN WILL BE LONG-LIVED.
IF IM WRONG, IT WONT BE. IF IM WRONG, IT WONT BE.
AND THAT IS THE THOUSANDS, AND I AND THAT IS THE THOUSANDS, AND I
HAD THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT HAD THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT
CONVERSATIONS OVER MY 25 YEARS CONVERSATIONS OVER MY 25 YEARS
IN POLITICS, WITH THE SMALL IN POLITICS, WITH THE SMALL
BUSINESS PERSON STRUGGLING TO BUSINESS PERSON STRUGGLING TO
MAKE IT, WITH THE FOLKS AT HOME MAKE IT, WITH THE FOLKS AT HOME
WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TOUGH WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW TOUGH
IT WAS TO GET THEIR FAMILY IT WAS TO GET THEIR FAMILY
CHECKBOOK BALANCED, THAT THOSE CHECKBOOK BALANCED, THAT THOSE
PEOPLE HAVE NOT GONE AWAY. PEOPLE HAVE NOT GONE AWAY.
THOSE PEOPLE WERE CORE TO THE THOSE PEOPLE WERE CORE TO THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY AND WHAT IT REPUBLICAN PARTY AND WHAT IT
USED TO STAND FOR. USED TO STAND FOR.
THEY HAVENT BEEN TALKED TO HERE THEY HAVENT BEEN TALKED TO HERE
LATELY AND THE PRESIDENT SAID LATELY AND THE PRESIDENT SAID
THOSE CONCERNS YOU HAVE WITH THOSE CONCERNS YOU HAVE WITH
REGARD TO SPENDING, THEYRE OUT REGARD TO SPENDING, THEYRE OUT
THE WINDOW, WERE NOT GOING TO THE WINDOW, WERE NOT GOING TO
WORRY ABOUT THEM, THE ECONOMYS WORRY ABOUT THEM, THE ECONOMYS
GREAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT GREAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT
THEYRE STILL THERE AND ID LIKE THEYRE STILL THERE AND ID LIKE
TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM
BECAUSE THAT SPANS WELL BEYOND BECAUSE THAT SPANS WELL BEYOND
THE SUBURBAN WOMAN YOURE THE SUBURBAN WOMAN YOURE
TALKING ABOUT, IT SPANS TO A TALKING ABOUT, IT SPANS TO A
WHOLE RANGE OF DIFFERENT WHOLE RANGE OF DIFFERENT
SOCIOECONOMIC GROUPINGS AND DEM SOCIOECONOMIC GROUPINGS AND DEM
KRAFIC. KRAFIC.>>DO YOU DISPUTE THE>>DO YOU DISPUTE THE CHARACTERIZATION THAT COMES OUT CHARACTERIZATION THAT COMES OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THE OF THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THE ECONOMY IS STRONG? ECONOMY IS STRONG?>>ABSOLUTELY I CONTEST THAT.>>ABSOLUTELY I CONTEST THAT. BECAUSE YOU CAN BUY GROWTH. BECAUSE YOU CAN BUY GROWTH. SHOW ME THE NUMBER YOU WANT TO
GET TO AND ILL TELL YOU THE TO GET TO AND ILL TELL YOU THE
PRICE TO GET THIS. PRICE TO GET THIS.
THINK ABOUT WHAT THE FED HAS THINK ABOUT WHAT THE FED HAS
BEEN DOING, AVERAGE RECESSION BEEN DOING, AVERAGE RECESSION
LAST FIVE YEARS YOUVE SEEN A LAST FIVE YEARS YOUVE SEEN A
FIVE AND A FIVE. FIVE AND A FIVE.
FIVE POINTS IN TERMS OF LOWERING FIVE POINTS IN TERMS OF LOWERING
OF INTEREST RATES BY THE FED, IN OF INTEREST RATES BY THE FED, IN
TERMS OF DEALING WITH THAT TERMS OF DEALING WITH THAT
RECESSION. RECESSION. AND ABOUT A FIVE POINT INCREASE AND ABOUT A FIVE POINT INCREASE IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF THE DEFICIT. DEFICIT. GUESS WHAT? GUESS WHAT? WEVE GOT NO ROOM ON EITHER SIDE
RIGHT NOW.O ROOM ON EITHER SIDE RIGHT NOW.
THE FED DOESNT HAVE ROOM AND IN THE FED DOESNT HAVE ROOM AND IN
TERMS OF GOVERNMENT, IT DOESNT TERMS OF GOVERNMENT, IT DOESNT
HAVE ROOM. HAVE ROOM.
WE ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN WE ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN
WEVE BEEN AT ANY POINT IN THE WEVE BEEN AT ANY POINT IN THE
HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.
ECONOMICALLY, SAY FOR THE START ECONOMICALLY, SAY FOR THE START
OF OUR COUNTRY, CIVIL WAR AND OF OUR COUNTRY, CIVIL WAR AND
WORLD WAR II. WORLD WAR II.
>>YOURE GOING TO TRY TO RUN A>>YOURE GOING TO TRY TO RUN A
CAMPAIGN ON DEBTS, DEFICITS AND CAMPAIGN ON DEBTS, DEFICITS AND
SPENDING, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW SPENDING, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW
THATS NOT SEXY. THATS NOT SEXY.
ITS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. ITS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
>>THATS NOT IT.>>THATS NOT IT.
WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE
DIFFERENT THINGS. DIFFERENT THINGS.
THATS THE BULLS EYE FOR ME, THATS THE BULLS EYE FOR ME,
AND, AGAIN, TRADE, AGAIN, TONE, AND, AGAIN, TRADE, AGAIN, TONE,
AGAIN, POLITICAL AND POLITICAL AGAIN, POLITICAL AND POLITICAL
CULTURE AND INSTITUTION. CULTURE AND INSTITUTION.
>>YOURE PREPARED FOR THE>>YOURE PREPARED FOR THE
PRESIDENT TO GO PERSONAL FOR PRESIDENT TO GO PERSONAL FOR
HOWEVER LONG YOURE IN THE RACE, HOWEVER LONG YOURE IN THE RACE,
TO CONTINUE TO ATTACK YOU ON TO CONTINUE TO ATTACK YOU ON
TWITTER, YOURE PREPARED FOR TWITTER, YOURE PREPARED FOR
I MEAN, I — I THINK THE I MEAN, I — I THINK THE
INTERESTING THING ABOUT MY INTERESTING THING ABOUT MY
JOURNEY IS IVE BEEN TO SOME JOURNEY IS IVE BEEN TO SOME
TOUGH SPOTS. TOUGH SPOTS.
THE IDEA OF HIM MEDICAL REPORTOR THE IDEA OF HIM MEDICAL REPORTOR
WOUNDING ME WITH TWITTER. WOUNDING ME WITH TWITTER.
>>YOUVE ONLY LOST ONE RACE,>>YOUVE ONLY LOST ONE RACE,
YOUR LAST CONGRESSIONAL RACE, YOUR LAST CONGRESSIONAL RACE,
WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM THAT WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM THAT
LOSS THATS GOING TO MAKE YOU A LOSS THATS GOING TO MAKE YOU A
BETTER CANDIDATE RIGHT NOW? BETTER CANDIDATE RIGHT NOW?
>>I LEARNED I GUESS A COUPLE OF>>I LEARNED I GUESS A COUPLE OF
DIFFERENT THINGS. DIFFERENT THINGS.
I LEARNED ONE, HOW REAL THE I LEARNED ONE, HOW REAL THE
TRUMP PHENOMENON IS. TRUMP PHENOMENON IS.
IT IS A POWERFUL FORCE RIGHT NOW IT IS A POWERFUL FORCE RIGHT NOW
IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
BUT I ALSO LEARNED NEEDS TO BE C BUT I ALSO LEARNED NEEDS TO BE C
I MEAN, I FEEL — I MEAN, THAT I MEAN, I FEEL — I MEAN, THAT
NIGHT OF MY LOSS, WHICH WAS MY NIGHT OF MY LOSS, WHICH WAS MY
FIRST LOSS, MY FOUR SONS AND I FIRST LOSS, MY FOUR SONS AND I
STAYED UP UNTIL 3:00 IN THE STAYED UP UNTIL 3:00 IN THE
MORNING THAT NIGHT TALKING ABOUT MORNING THAT NIGHT TALKING ABOUT
LIFE. LIFE. WHAT THEY SAID TO A BOY WAS, WHAT THEY SAID TO A BOY WAS, DAD, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING,
YOUVE TAUGHT US ABOUT CERTAIN YOUVE TAUGHT US ABOUT CERTAIN
PRINCIPLES, CERTAIN LESSONS AND PRINCIPLES, CERTAIN LESSONS AND
THE IMPORTANCE OF STANDING ON THE IMPORTANCE OF STANDING ON
THEM. THEM. YOU DID AND WERE PROUD OF YOU. YOU DID AND WERE PROUD OF YOU. WHAT I LEARNED IN THAT ELECTION WHAT I LEARNED IN THAT ELECTION IS HOW THERE ARE THINGS WELL IS HOW THERE ARE THINGS WELL BEYOND POLITICS THAT GO TO THE BEYOND POLITICS THAT GO TO THE HEART OF WHO WE ARE AS HUMAN HEART OF WHO WE ARE AS HUMAN BEINGS THAT ARE OCCASIONALLY
WORTH STANDING FOR.ASIONALLY WORTH STANDING FOR. THATS THE CASE WITH THIS
ELECTION RIGHT NOW. THIS ELECTION RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES OUT THERE ARE SOME PRINCIPLES OUT
THERE WE ALL NEED TO STAND FOR THERE WE ALL NEED TO STAND FOR
AS AMERICANS, THAT I THINK HAVE AS AMERICANS, THAT I THINK HAVE
GONE AWRY WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE.
JUDY WOODRUFF: Nearly a year after the midterm
elections and a result that was thrown out because of evidence of Republican fraud, North
Carolina’s Ninth District finally has a congressman-elect. Republican Dan Bishop won yesterday’s special
election by less than two points and fewer than 4,000 votes in a district President Trump
won by nearly 12 points in 2016. The campaign was seen by both parties as potentially
a first signal about voters’ thoughts ahead of the 2020 presidential race and the Republican
Party’s strength with suburban voters. Steve Harrison is a political reporter for
public radio station WFAE in Charlotte, and he has been tracking the race. Steve Harrison, thank you very much for joining
us on the “NewsHour.” What has been reactions across the state to
Dan Bishop’s win? STEVE HARRISON, WFAE Radio: So, I think that
people were a little surprised, not so much that Dan Bishop won, but that he won by 2
percentage points. Now, that doesn’t sound like a lot, but in
the previous race last fall, the Republican candidate was ahead by 905 votes. So, this was a little bit bigger margin. I think one of the early reads on it on for
Republicans is that President Trump came on Monday night and held a rally for Bishop in
Fayetteville, which is at the far eastern end of the district, and, apparently, that
worked. Cumberland County is the home of Fayetteville. Dan McCready, the Democrat, won that last
fall. And this time, Dan Bishop took Cumberland
County. So, you know, this was a win for the president. He had — as he was leaving to come down to
North Carolina, he was kind of downplaying his involvement in the race. JUDY WOODRUFF: Right. STEVE HARRISON: But then, you know, after
Dan Bishop won, he started taking a lot of credit for the win. JUDY WOODRUFF: And which he has done. This is an interesting district. It sprawls all the way from Charlotte toward
the western end of the state, all the way to Fayetteville in the east. It’s urban, it’s suburban, it’s rural. What do you see in the results about who voted
for whom that tells you why Bishop won and why, frankly, McCready came so close? STEVE HARRISON: So, the district is a gerrymandered
district. The Republicans drew it to be a safe seat. And, really, the heart of the district is
a part of Charlotte that is very wealthy, white, college-educated, and has voted for
Republicans in big margins for decades. That part of Charlotte, combined with Union
County, a suburban county, has about 60 percent of the vote. It’s designed to really carry the district
for Republicans. But what’s happened is that that part of Charlotte
has really flipped. Dan McCready won it last fall. He expanded on that margin this time. And that part of Charlotte is going more blue. But, at the same time, Dan Bishop was able
to make inroads in the more rural parts of the district, working-class voters. It was a little bit of a replay of 2016. JUDY WOODRUFF: And you’re saying and you’re
pointing out and reminding us that McCready, the Democrat, did better than he did last
fall. What are Republicans taking away from this? Are they telling you, are you sensing there’s
more nervousness about how — what President Trump can expect in North Carolina next year? STEVE HARRISON: So, I spoke with Bishop’s
campaign strategist today, and his view was, look, we may be losing college-educated voters
in Charlotte, but he said, if we can make that up by getting working-class voters in
rural counties, that’s OK. That’s still a winning coalition. He felt like they were in good shape for statewide
races and going into 2020. On the Democratic side, like you said earlier,
President Trump won this district by 12 percentage points. For the Democrat to get within two points
is a pretty big shift. And if the Democrats can perform like that
again in 2020, they have a really good chance of winning North Carolina. JUDY WOODRUFF: And, at this point, just very
quickly on this, Steve Harrison, any sense of which party is better organized going into
the presidential election? STEVE HARRISON: I think that North Carolina
will again be a highly contested swing state. Of course, the Republican National Convention
will be in Charlotte next year. That’s going to bring a lot of attention here. But I think that both sides, as they have
for the last two elections, are going to be spending millions of dollars and lots of time
in North Carolina. JUDY WOODRUFF: And, finally, I want to ask
you about what happened in your state capital, Raleigh, today. In a surprise move, the Republicans called
a vote which, in essence, overturned the Democratic governor’s veto of a budget. I think this is a reminder — we think the
country is dividing from looking at politics in Washington. It’s a reminder it’s very divided at the state
level. STEVE HARRISON: Right. What happened in Raleigh today kind of takes
— takes it to a whole other level. What happened was, the Democratic governor
of North Carolina had vetoed the Republican budget. The legislature doesn’t have enough votes
to override the budget. The Democrats have been — it’s been two months
now with this impasse over what’s going to happen with the budget. The Democrats this morning were under the
impression there would be no vote on the budget. They say that the Republican relationship
had told them that. The Republicans say no such thing. And this morning, they had a quorum, and with
hardly any Democrats in the chamber, they passed an override. And Democrats were livid. JUDY WOODRUFF: Sounds like not a lot of love
lost at this point, but, again, a reminder of just how deep the partisan divide, even
at the state and local level. Thank you very much, Steve Harrison, with
WFAE. We appreciate it. STEVE HARRISON: Thank you.
“The lights are on
in the White House, but no one’s at home.” “This guy is destroying
the country.” “Put the Twitter away.” President Trump is facing
Republican challengers to his re-election campaign. Joe Walsh, Bill Weld
and Mark Sanford. They don’t have much
of a chance at securing their party’s nomination, but primary challenges
can lead to problems for the incumbent. So who’s trying
to take Trump on? First up: Joe Walsh. “These are not
conventional times. These are urgent times. Let’s be real: These are scary times.” A one-term
Tea Party congressman who represented a Chicago
suburb from 2011 to 2013. “Pisses me off!” His style? It’s aggressive. Even with his
constituents. “Quiet for a minute! Or I’m going to
ask you to leave.” He is also known for
his offensive tweets. “I wouldn’t call
myself a racist, but I would say, John,
I’ve said racist things on Twitter.” He’s shared his
far-right views on his nationally
syndicated radio show. “When he was elected
to Congress, he showed up in Washington
and refused to play by their rules.” In a recent program, he slammed President Trump
for his handling of immigration. “Donald Trump has royally
screwed this thing up.” His show is going off
the air due to FCC rules on airtime rights for
presidential candidates. So why is he running? “All Trump cares
about is himself.” “He’s a horrible human being.” “He’s nuts, he’s erratic, he’s incompetent!” Critics have said the
same about him. Next: Bill Weld. He was the first
to announce his run against President Trump. “I would be
ashamed of myself if I didn’t raise
my hand and run.” Weld is a lawyer and former
Justice Department official. He was the governor of
Massachusetts during the ’90s, and has switched party
loyalties a few times, endorsing Barack Obama
for president in 2008 over John McCain,
and then supporting Mitt Romney in 2012. He ran as a libertarian
vice presidential candidate in 2016. “I hope to see the Republican
Party assume once again the mantle of being
the party of Lincoln.” Weld is a
fiscal conservative, but socially liberal. He supports abortion rights,
same-sex marriage and legalizing marijuana. He’s been campaigning in
New Hampshire and Iowa, hoping to best Trump in
those early primary contests. “I think we’re in something
of an inflection point.” And the former
governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford, is also running. “We need a change in
spending, debt and deficits, and we need it now.” He’s a vocal critic
of President Trump, and served a total
of six terms in the House of
Representatives. Ultimately, he lost his seat
after a primary challenge by a Trump-backed candidate. His second term as South Carolina
governor was stained by a scandal involving
an extramarital affair. Trump referenced this scandal
in a tweet mocking all three Republican candidates
running against him. So what are their
chances at winning? Not good. As of now, Trump’s
approval rating is very high
among Republicans. However, primary challengers
in recent decades have shown that they can leave the incumbent wounded
in the general election.
>>Chris: ‘S SUPPORTERS CALL THEMSELVES THE YANG GANG. THE CHANT POWERPOINT AT HIS RALLIES AND WERE BALL CAPS WITH MAT H ON THE FRONT FOR MAKE AMERICA THINK HARDER. JOINING US NOW FOR AN EXCLUSIVE “FOX NEWS SUNDAY” SIT DOWN, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT OF CANDIDATE AND ENTREPRENEUR ANDREW YANG, WHO WILL BE ON THE DEBATE STAGE THIS WEEK. MR. YANG, WELCOME TO “FOX NEWS SUNDAY.”>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME COME ACROSS. IT’S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.>>Chris: LET’S START WITH THE LATEST FOX NEWS POLL THAT CAME OUT THIS WEEK. IT SHOWS YOU TIED FOR SIXTH PLACE WITH AMY KLOBUCHAR AT 3%, 30 POINTS BEHIND JOE BIDEN, BUT RUNNING AHEAD OF CORY BOOKER AND BETO O’ROURKE AND JULIAN CASTRO. I HAVE KIND OF A GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS QUESTION, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU’RE DOING BETTER THAN A LOT OF BETTER-KNOWN POLITICIANS AND ON THE OTHER HAND, HOW DO YOU EVER MAKE THE BIG JUMP THAT YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE TO GET INTO THE TOP TIER OF CANDIDATES?>>Mr. Yang: ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, AMERICA, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS LOST A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN ITS POLITICIANS. IT’S ONE REASON WHY I’M DOING SO WELL, AND BEATING MANY SITTING SENATORS AND GOVERNORS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REALIZE THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS WAY BEHIND THE CURVE IN SOLVING THE REAL PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO CATCH UP AND SPEED UP AND THEY SEE SOMEONE LIKE ME AS SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. IN TERMS OF MAKING THE BIG JUMP TO CATCH UP TO JOE BIDEN AND THE OTHER LEADERS, MOST AMERICANS ARE JUST TUNING IN TO WHO’S RUNNING IN 2020. I’M STILL INTRODUCING MYSELF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT’S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY FLUID RACE OVER THE WEEKS AND MONTHS TO COME. I’M VERY CONFIDENT I’M JUST GOING TO KEEP ON CLIMBING THE BOWLS AND START CATCHING UP TO THE LEADERS VERY SOON.>>Chris: YOU SAY PEOPLE ARE JUST TUNING IN, BUT IF THEY TUNED INTO THE FIRST DEMOCRATIC DEBATE, THEY DIDN’T SEE MUCH OF ANDREW YANG. YOU ENDED UP GETTING — I HAD TO GET CHECK THIS OUT, 2 MINUTES AND 50 SECONDS TOTAL IN A TWO HOUR DEBATE, BY FAR THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME OF ANY OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE TWO DEBATES. WHAT’S YOUR PLAN TO GET MORE AIRTIME THIS WEEK TO>>Mr. Yang: I GOT TO ASK TWO QUESTIONS IN TWO HOURS, WHICH CERTAINLY WAS NOT ENOUGH BUT WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THIS WEDNESDAY I’M GOING TO HAVE MUCH, MUCH MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MY CASE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT THE REAL CENTRAL ISSUE IS WE ARE AUTOMATING AWAY MILLIONS OF MANUFACTURING JOBS AND NO RETAIL JOBS, CALL-CENTER JOBS AND ON AND ON THROUGH THE ECONOMY AND BECAUSE OF THE POLLING SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE, I’M NOT GOING TO HAVE JUST NEXT WEEK IN DETROIT, I’M GOING TO HAVE ALSO SEPTEMBER AND HOUSTON AND ON AND ON. MY CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO BE HERE THE ENTIRE WAY.>>Chris: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR POLICY PROPOSAL AND AUTOMATION BUT JUST TO GET BACK TO THE DEBATE, ONE WAY THAT IS TRIED AND TRUE TO GET MORE ATTENTION AND AIRTIME IS TO GO AFTER THE FRONT RUNNERS. YOU’RE GOING TO BE ON THE STAGE ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH TWO OF THE FRONT RUNNERS, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SENATOR HARRIS. ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT GOING AFTER THEM, ONE BECAUSE OF DIFFERENCES ON ISSUES AND TWO BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU MORE ATTENTION?>>Mr. Yang: MY FOCUS IS ON SOLVING THE PROBLEMS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN DRIVE THE CONVERSATION TOWARDS THOSE ISSUES, I’M VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I DON’T THINK THAT WE BENEFIT IF I’M THROWING ROCKS AT OTHER CANDIDATES WHEN FRANKLY I AGREE WITH THEM ON MANY, MANY ISSUES. AND I THINK RIGHT NOW MY FOCUS REALLY IS ON STILL INTRODUCING MYSELF TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>Chris: ONE OF YOUR MAIN MESSAGES, WHICH YOU REFERRED TO A MOMENT AGO, IS TO SAY THIS COUNTRY IS GOING THROUGH A DRAMATIC ECONOMIC TRANSFORMATION IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OF AUTOMATION AND YOU SAY THAT YOU WILL KEEP THE PROMISES TO WORKING-CLASS AMERICANS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS FAILED TO KEEP TO THEM. HERE YOU ARE IN THE FIRST DEBAT DEBATE.>>I CAN BUILD A MUCH BROADER COALITION TO BEAT DONALD TRUMP. IT IS NOT LEFT, IT IS NOT RIGHT, IT IS FORWARD, AND THAT IS WHERE I WILL TAKE THE COUNTRY IN 2020.>>Chris: YOU PROPOSE WHAT YOU CALL THE AMERICAN MALL ACT, LIKE SHOPPING MALL ACT WITH A $6 BILLION FUND. HOW WOULD THAT WORK?>>Mr. Yang: WELL, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF AUTOMATING AWAY THE MOST COMMON JOBS IN THE U.S. ECONOMY WHICH INCLUDES RETAIL WORKER, CALL-CENTER WORKER, TRUCK DRIVER, FOOD SERVICE. THESE ARE THE JOBS THAT ARE DISAPPEARING AROUND THE COUNTRY AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY ARE ALSO THE MOST COMMON JOBS. THE AMAZON IS CLOSING 30% OF OUR MALLS AND STORES AND PLAYING ZERO IN TAXES WHILE DOING IT. AND THESE MALLS BECOME SINKHOLES. THEY CAUSE BLIGHT, BECOME HAVENS FOR CRIME AND BAD ACTION, SO WE NEED TO HELP COMMUNITIES TRANSITION THESE MALLS TO BECOME COMMUNITY CENTERS OR SCHOOLS OR EVEN RESIDENTIAL, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT KIND OF MOVE, THESE GHOST MALLS BECOME THE LAST PLACE ANYONE WANTS TO BE AND THEY DESTROY PROPERTY VALUE FOR MILES AROUND.>>Chris: BUT WHAT YOU DO IF AUTOMATION IS THE PROBLEM, WHAT YOU DO TO HELP THE WORKER WHO HAS SKILLS FOR AN EARLIER ERA TRANSITION AND GET A JOB IN THESE TIMES?>>Mr. Yang: THE FIRST BIG STEP IS WE NEED TO HAVE EVERYONE SHARE IN ALL OF THE GAINS FROM THIS PROGRESS AND INNOVATION. MY FLAGSHIP PROPOSAL OF FREEDOM DIVIDEND WOULD PUT $1,000 A MONTH INTO THE HANDS OF EVERY AMERICAN SO THAT IF YOU ARE — MALL CLOSES OR YOUR JOB GETS BLASTED AWAY YOU AT LEAST HAVE $12,000 A YEAR THAT HELPS TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF AND HELP YOU TRANSITION IN A BETTER DIRECTION.>>Chris: BUT ARE YOU BASICALLY ON YOUR OWN? IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE RETRAINING PROGRAMS? ARE YOU BASICALLY SING HAS $12,000, HELP YOURSELF?>>Mr. Yang: WE CERTAINLY NEED TO INVEST IN THE RETRAINING OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE HONEST THAT WE ARE TERRIBLE AT RETRAINING. THE SUCCESS RATES FOR FEDERALLY FUNDED RETRAINING PROGRAMS FOR THE DISPLACED MANUFACTURING WORKERS IN THE MIDWEST WERE BETWEEN ZERO AND 15%. AND PRETENDING THAT WE’RE SOMEHOW GOING TO BECOME EXCELLENT AT RETRAINING AMERICANS IS LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I WAS JUST AT A TRUCK STOP IN IOWA. IF YOU WENT TO THOSE TRUCKERS AND SAID WE ARE GOING TO RETRAIN YOU TO BE CODERS OR ENGINEERS THEY WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE THEN SIGN UP, SO WE NEED TO PUT THE RESOURCES DIRECTLY INTO OUR HANDS, THE HANDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. CERTAINLY WE NEED TO INVEST IN RETRAINING PROGRAMS BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE CAN AND CAN’T ACCOMPLISH.>>Chris: OKAY, LET’S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR BIG PROGRAM, THE FREEDOM DIVIDEND, ALSO CALLED UNIVERSAL BREAKS OF INCOME. $1,000 A MONTH TO EVERY ADULT, EVERYBODY OVER 18 REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOUR JEFF BEZOS OR THE GUY ON THE STREET. $12,000 A YEAR. ESTIMATES ARE THAT YOUR PLAN WOULD COST ABOUT $3 TRILLION A YEAR. AND THE MAIN WAY YOU WOULD DO IT — YOU HAVE SOME OTHER METHODS, BUT YOUR MAIN WAY IS A VALUE-ADDED TAX, THE KIND OF SALES TAX THEY HAVE IN EUROPE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAY WOULD PAY FOR THIS. FIRST OF ALL, IT’S BASICALLY A SALES TAX, WHICH AS YOU KNOW IS ONE OF THE MORE REGRESSIVE ONES, AND SECONDLY, INDEPENDENT GROUPS LIKE THE TAX FOUNDATION SAY — THEY’VE LOOKED AT ALL OF YOUR PLANS — THEY SAY THAT YOUR NUMBERS DON’T ADD UP. THAT IN FACT WHAT YOU WOULD GET FROM ALL OF THIS IS LESS THAN $500 A MONTH PER PERSON, NOT A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH PER PERSON.>>Mr. Yang: FIRST, THE HEADLINE COST IS MUCH LOWER THAN $3 TRILLION BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY SPENDING OVER 1.5 TRILLION ON VARIOUS DIRECT INCOME SUPPORT PROGRAMS. BUT IF WE PUT A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A SLIVER OF EVERY AMAZON TRANSACTION — AND AGAIN, AMAZON IS A TRILLION DOLLAR TECH COMPANY THAT PAID ZERO IN TAXES LAST YEAR. IF WE GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A SLIVER OF EVERY AMAZON TRANSACTION, EVERY GOOGLE SEARCH COME EVERY FACEBOOK AD, EVERY ROBOT TRUCK MILE, WE CAN GENERATE HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS IN NEW REVENUE AND THE GREAT THING IS WHEN WE PUT THIS DIVIDEND INTO YOUR HANDS, THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO? THE MONEY GOES RIGHT BACK INTO LOCAL COMMUNITIES IN THE ECONOMY. IT GOES TO CAR REPAIRS AND DAY CARE IN LITTLE LEAGUE SIGN-UPS. ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE US HEALTHIER AND STRONGER AND WOULD HELP CREATE MILLIONS OF JOBS AROUND THE COUNTRY.>>Chris: BUT I WANT TO PICK UP ON SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID. WHATEVER IT IS, WITH A TRILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS A YEAR IN MONEY TRANSFERS, THAT’S ONE OF THE CONCERNS, BECAUSE SOME CONSERVATIVES ARE SAYING WELL, LOOK, IF WE WERE GIVING EVERYBODY $12,000 A YEAR, WE COULD REPLACE THE WELFARE STATE. YEAH, EVERYBODY’S GOING TO GET THE ANDREW YANG FREEDOM DIVIDEND, BUT THEN THE CONSERVATIVES CAN DO AWAY WITH SOCIAL PROGRAMS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AT THE LOWER END OF THE INCOME SCALE DEPEND ON.>>Mr. Yang: WELL, MY PROGRAM IS UNIVERSAL, BUT IT’S OPT IN AND IF YOU OPT IN THEN YOU’D BE FORGOING BENEFITS FROM CERTAIN EXISTING PROGRAMS. SO THIS TO ME WOULD BE A WIN-WIN-WIN WHERE YOU HAVE THESE RESOURCES IN THE HANDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU DON’T HAVE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW PEOPLE SPEND IT AND YOU ALSO GET RID OF A LOT OF THE NEGATIVE INCENTIVES BECAUSE THE FACT IS A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS GIVE YOU LESS IF YOU DO BETTER AND WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT SO IF YOU DO BETTER YOU DO BETTER.>>Chris: FINAL QUESTION, AND THIS IS ANOTHER CONCERN PEOPLE HAVE, LOOK, WHEN YOU WORK, YOU GET MORE OUT OF IT THAN MONEY. YOU GET SELF-ESTEEM. YOU GET SOCIAL INTERACTION. DOES A LOT OF THINGS, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT WITH YOUR, IN EFFECT, 12,000 A YEAR HANDOUT THAT YOUR DELINKING INCOME FROM ACTUALLY EARNING A LIVING.>>Mr. Yang: I’M ASIAN, SO YOU KNOW I LOVE TO WORK. YOU HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT BROADER ABOUT HOW YOU THINK ABOUT WORK. MY WIFE IS AT HOME WITH OUR TWO YOUNG BOYS, ONE OF WHOM HAS AUTISM. WHAT IS THE MARKET VALUE OF HER WORK AT RIGHT NOW? AT ZERO, AND WE KNOW THAT’S THE OPPOSITE THE TRUTH. WE KNOW THE WORK SHE’S DOING IS AMONG THE MOST CHALLENGING AND VITAL WORK. IN OUR SOCIETY. SO WE NEED TO THINK BIGGER ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN BY WORK. BUT MOST AMERICANS KNOW THAT PUTTING A BIT OF MONEY INTO YOUR HANDS IS GOING TO MAKE YOU WORK HARDER IN MANY CONTEXTS AND IT’S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TAKE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO WORK AND SAY I’M GOING TO KICK BACK AND, BECAUSE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH IS NOT ENOUGH TO THRIVE IN ANY ENVIRONMENT.>>Chris: MR. YANG, THANK YOU, THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR WEEKEND AND YOUR IDEAS WITH US AND WE WILL BE TRACKING HOW MUCH TIME YOU ACTUALLY GET TO SPEAK IN THE DEBATE THIS WEEK.>>Mr. Yang: THANK YOU, CHRIS, HOPEFULLY I WILL SEE YOU IN DETROIT.