Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself with bedsheet: report


I’M BILL HEMMER IN NEW YORK.>>Sandra: I’M SANDRA SMITH. WE’RE LEARNING NEW DETAILS ON THE TIME LINE OF THE DAY. WE’RE LEARNING ONE GUARD OF WAS A SUBSTITUTE. THE OTHER WAS REPORTEDLY NOT EVEN A CORRECTIONS OFFICER. THE NEW YORK POST NOW REPORTING EPSTEIN USED BED SHEETS TO HANG HIMSELF AND LEFT UNATTENDED FOR HOURS.>>Bill: AGENT NOW SEARCHING HIS U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS HOME AS ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR VOWS TO FIND ANSWERS ON EPSTEIN’S DEATH.>>I WAS APPALLED AND INDEED THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT WAS AND FRANKLY ANGRY TO LEARN OF THE MCCs FAILURE TO ADEQUATELY SECURE HIS PRISONER. WE ARE NOW LEARNING OF SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES OF THIS FACILITY THAT ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING AND DEMAND A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. THE FBI AND THE OFFICE INSPECTOR GENERAL ARE DOING JUST THAT. WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED AND THERE WILL BE ACCOUNTABILITY.>>Sandra: IN MOMENTS WE’LL SPEAK WITH RUDY GIULIANI IN STUDIO. WE BEGIN FIRST WITH BRYAN WITH DETAILS.>>Reporter: JEFFERY EPSTEIN KILLED HIMSELF WITH A BED SHEET WRAPPED AROUND HIS NECK TIDE — TIED TO THE BUNK GED AND HE KNEELED TO THE FLOOR AND STRANGLED HIMSELF WITH THE SHEET AND FOUND UNRESPONSIVE AT THE METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER SATURDAY. THE QUESTION IS HOW IS A HIGH-PROFILE INMATE LIKE EPSTEIN AT A FACILITY KNOWN FOR TIGHT SECURITY. EPSTEIN DID NOT HAVE A CELL MIGHT THAT NIGHT WHICH IS UNUSUAL TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH. IT’S VERY RARE FON AN INMATE TO BE ON SUICIDE WATCH AND HIS PROFILE KEPT HIM IN THE SPECIAL HOUSING UNIT WHICH MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES AROUND HIS DEATH.>>THE AVERAGE PERSON IS PLACED IN THE GENERAL POPULATION AFTER A SUICIDE WATCH. THE CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST IN CONSULTATION WITH THE WARDEN DETERMINES HE’S NO LONGER A RISK AND THEY SAY OKAY BACK TO POPULATION. THERE’S ACTIVITIES PROGRAM, MORE ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND CASE COUNSELLORS. THAT’S THE OPTIMAL SITUATION.>>WE KNOW EPSTEIN WAS NOT CHECKED ON SEVERAL HOURS PRIOR TO DEATH WHICH IS A VIOLATION OF NORMAL OPERATIONS CALLING FOR CHECK EVERY 30 MINUTES. THE UNION REPRESENTING TWO OF THE GUARDS RESPONSIBLE FOR WATCHING HE UNIT SAID THE GUARD OVERWORKED. ONE WORKED OVER 80 HOURS AND ONE VOLUNTEERED BECAUSE THE MCC HAS BEEN SHORT STAFFED FOR YEARS. TH “THE NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTS ONE WAS NOT EVEN AN OFFICER. AGE ERNTS — AGENTS ARRIVED TO SEARCH HIS PRIVATE ISLAND SHOWING THEY’RE STILL INVESTIGATING HIS SEX TRAFFICKING NETWORK WHICH MAY INCLUDE HIS FORMER DESCRIBED AS EPSTEIN’S ACCUSERS KNOWN AS HIS MADAME AND ARRANGING SEX WITH UNDERAGE GIRLS. LAWYERS FOR HIS ACCUSERS ARE NOW ASKING A FEDERAL JUDGE TO

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ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ON HIS PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS BEST FRIEND.” BEST FRIEND.”>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND OUR STEVE EATON. OUR STEVE EATON. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ALREADY? KNOW ALREADY? THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF HIS YACHT. HIS YACHT. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. $4 BILLION. $4 BILLION. HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE SHE IS. SHE IS. HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF THE GRID? THE GRID? I CAN’T. I CAN’T.>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD. WORLD. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED THIS IN WORLD. THIS IN WORLD. SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR HER? HER?>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US? HAVE NOT TOLD US?>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. RIGHT THING TO DO. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON FRIDAY. FRIDAY.>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD,>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD, ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS GO? INVESTIGATIONS GO? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM?>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE. HERE. THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING BACK MANY YEARS. BACK MANY YEARS. THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT RELATE TO THE MONEY. RELATE TO THE MONEY.>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS AGO. AGO. WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE DID. DID. WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK WITH AUTHORITIES THEN. WITH AUTHORITIES THEN.>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT WAS DISCOVERED. WAS DISCOVERED.>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO THAT? THAT?>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED. BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED.>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST. BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST.>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT. BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT.>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE LIKES OF WEXNER. LIKES OF WEXNER. OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE INTERESTED. INTERESTED. LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUR CALLS. OUR CALLS. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD. NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD.>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING JUSTICE. JUSTICE. SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT THAT’S SOMETHING THAT PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST IN. IN. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE ON. ON. FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY HAD BANKING RECORDS. HAD BANKING RECORDS. IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN PUBLIC FILINGS. PUBLIC FILINGS.>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW THAT HE’S DEAD? THAT HE’S DEAD?>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS SATURDAYS. SATURDAYS.>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA KIMABLES KIMABLES BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. WE ARE REPORTING HERE — WE ARE REPORTING HERE –>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. DANNY DANNY DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT BEFORE. GREAT POINT BEFORE. IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF. OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST. IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. TO CONSIDER. I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS EXECUTED IN THE STATE. EXECUTED IN THE STATE. IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN.>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE TESTIFY, ARE ALL THOSE PARTIES

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>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE EPSTEIN WAS. EPSTEIN WAS. CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU FIRST. FIRST. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH? HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH?>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT.>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT. I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I SAID, NO. SAID, NO. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME REACTION. REACTION. HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. THING. WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN SO — SO –>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH? THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH?>>YES, I DO.>>YES, I DO. I DO. I DO. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS HAIR. HAIR. HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO AN OFFICE. AN OFFICE. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME TO HIMSELF. TO HIMSELF.>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS? HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS?>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN SHOCK. SHOCK. YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF EMOTIONS. EMOTIONS. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S ANGER REALLY. IT’S ANGER REALLY. THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY.>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY?>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY? WHERE DO ALL OF THESE WHERE DO ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE REPORTING GO? REPORTING GO? LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE STREETS? STREETS?>>NO.>>NO. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL.>>WHY?>>WHY?>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS A BIG PAPER TRAIL. A BIG PAPER TRAIL.>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS NOW? NOW?>>I THINK IN TIME.>>I THINK IN TIME. YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO TRIAL. TRIAL. HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS VERY STRONG. VERY STRONG.>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES. CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CLINTONS TO THIS. CLINTONS TO THIS. IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE PLACE. PLACE. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING JUSTICE HERE? GETTING JUSTICE HERE?>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW.>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW. WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL PRISONS. PRISONS. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. SUICIDE WATCH. HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CELL WITH HIM. IN THE CELL WITH HIM. THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY REMOVED ON FRIDAY. REMOVED ON FRIDAY. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT? THAT?>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR.>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR. EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER PEOPLE. PEOPLE. SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE PROSECUTED. PROSECUTED. THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT. AGREE WITH THAT. HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY. COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY.>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY?>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY? DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN UP OVER AND OVER AS THE UP OVER AND OVER AS THE COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS. YOUNG GIRLS. IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE IS. KNOW WHERE SHE IS. THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS? KNOW WHERE SHE IS? I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS EVERY SECOND. EVERY SECOND. SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. SHE HAD A NONPROFIT SHE HAD A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. ORGANIZATION. SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO EVADE IT THIS LONG. TO EVADE IT THIS LONG.>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE QUESTION IS DOES HE? THE QUESTION IS DOES HE?>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS OUTRAGED. OUTRAGED. CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS PRISON. PRISON. IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A HAND IN IT? HAND IN IT? BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE. HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE.>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF JUSTICE. JUSTICE. THESE KINDS OF THINGS — THESE KINDS OF THINGS –>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE ARE SAYING, YEP. ARE SAYING, YEP. THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK EYE? EYE?>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDS. UNFOLDS. BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. FROM A CORRECTIONAL FROM A CORRECTIONAL ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF HONOR. HONOR. IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE TAKEN OUT. TAKEN OUT. I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT FACILITY. FACILITY. HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE FACILITY. FACILITY. HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADX. ADX. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY FRANKLY. FRANKLY.>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR REPORTING GO FROM HERE? REPORTING GO FROM HERE?>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE OTHER DAY. OTHER DAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THREADS TO FOLLOW. THREADS TO FOLLOW. THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING — WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING –>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW. YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY WERE AFRAID. WERE AFRAID. NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEY COULD VERY WELL BE AFRAID

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>>>AMERICA’S MASS SHOOTING EPIDEMIC.>>DISPATCH, WE’VE GOT SHOTS FIRED, WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE DOWN.>>HAS WASHINGTON FINALLY HIT A TIP WILLING POINT?>>THIS ISN’T A CRISIS FOR NRA, REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS. WE NEED MEANINGFUL BACKGROUND.>>PLUS, TOUGH NEW ATTACKS ON THE PRESIDENT AND DEMOCRATS WHO WANT HIS JOB.>>THIS PRESIDENT HAS FANNED THE FLAMES OF WHITE SUPREMACY IN THIS NATION. .>>HE’S A MAN WHO COZIES UP TO THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP PLAYS DOWN THE LATEST NORTH KOREAN MISSILE TESTS.>>THE MISSILE TESTS HAVE ALL BEEN SHORT RANGE. THERE’S BEEN NO NUCLEAR TESTS.>>SOURCED BY THE BPWBEST REPORS NOW. WELCOME TO “INSIDE POLITICS”. I’M PHIL MATTINGLY IN FOR JOHN KING. WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING? THAT’S THE QUESTION AMERICANS HAVE BEEN ASKING THEMSELVES IN THE DAYS AFTER TWO MASS SHOOTINGS, ONE IN TEXAS, ONE IN OHIO, THAT KILLED 31 PEOPLE. THE TEXAS MASSACRE IS THE 7th WORST SHOOTING IN MODERN AMERICAN HISTORY. 22 KILLED INSIDE A WALMART STORE IN EL PASO. ACCORDING TO POLICE, THE CONFESSED KILLER SAYS HE SPECIFICALLY TARGETED MEXICANS. WE’LL TALK ABOUT THE RACE ANGLE AND HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS RESPONDED IN A LITTLE BIT. BUT FIRST WE START WITH THE DEBATE OVER GUNS AND WHETHER THIS TIME WILL IN FACT, BE DIFFERENT WHEN IT COMES TO NEW GUN SAFETY LAWS. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS IT WILL BE. AND THAT HE’S READY TO WORK WITH DEMOCRATS ON A BILL STRENGTHENING BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>WE DON’T WANT INSANE PEOPLE, MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE, BAD PEOPLE, DANGEROUS PEOPLE — WE DON’T WANT GUNS IN THE HANDS OF THE WRONG PEOPLE. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT FOR COMMON SENSE, SENSIBLE, IMPORTANT BACKGROUND CHECKS. THERE ARE MANY BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN OVER A PERIOD OF FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. THEY WENT NOWHERE. BUT THERE’S NEVER BEEN A PRESIDENT LIKE PRESIDENT TRUMP. .>>NOW, HOUSE DEMOCRATS PASSED A BACKGROUND CHECKS BILL EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND THEY WANT MITCH McCONNELL TO TAKE IT UP RIGHT NOW. HE IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THE QUESTION NOW IS, HOW HARD WILL PRESIDENT TRUMP PUSH? IF HE’S LOOKING TO POLLS LIKE THIS ONE IT SEEMS, AT LEAST ON ITS FACE, A POLITICAL NO-BRAINER. 89% FOR UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, INCLUDING THE MOST TRUMP-FRIENDLY DEMOGRAPHICS. BUT VOICES LIKE THIS IN CONSERVATIVE MEDIA. >>GEORGE H.W. BUSH SAID READ MY LIPS, NO NEW TAXES, RAISED TAXES. ANY KIND OF A DEAL WITH THE DEMOCRATS ON GUNS IS GOING TO RISK THE SAME FATE HAPPENING TO TRUMP. THE ONLY THING A NEW LAW WOULD DO IS DRIVE A WEDGE BETWEEN TU TRUMP AND HIS VOTERS, THE NRA. THEY WANT YOUR GUNS. THEY WANT EVERY GUN YOU’VE GOT AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN GET IT.>>JOINING US NOW WITH THE REPORTING AND THEIR INSIGHTS. MICHAEL BENDER AND THYME’S MOLLY BALL. I WANT TO START WITH HISTORY. WE HAVE ALL COVERED THESE ISSUES FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS MOMENT THAT FEELS LIKE A TIPPING POINT AND THEN ENDS UP WITHERING AWAY OVER THE COURSE OF A COUPLE WEEKS. IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE LAST 20 YEARS, YOU SEE THE CLUSTERS OF THE MASS SHOOTINGS, EIGHT OR MORE PEOPLE KILLED. AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME. YOU HAVE IN 2007, YOU HAVE THE VIRGINIA TECH SHOOTING WHERE NOTHING OCCURRED AFTERWARDS. SMALL IMPROVEMENTS IN MENTAL HEALTH DATA. 2012, SANDY HOOK. NOTHING HAPPENED. BACKGROUND CHECKS FAILED. A LARGE FAILURE FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR GUN LAW CHANGES. LAS VEGAS IN 2017. MASSIVE SHOOTING. MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE KILLED. NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. SOUTHERN SPRINGS DOWN IN TEXAS, SMALL TWEAKS IN THE FIX NICS LAW. BUT NOTHING MAJOR. I GUESS THE QUESTION THAT EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW, IS THIS TIME DIFFERENT?>>I THINK THERE’S A COUPLE THINGS MISSING FROM THAT TIMELINE. FIRST OF ALL, THAT’S A TIMELINE OF FEDERAL ACTION. AND THERE’S A LOT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE STATES DURING THAT TIME. ALSO IN SOME BLUE STATES. THERE HAS BEEN A BUILDING GRASSROOTS MOVEMENT IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL THAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN. BACK IN THE 90s WHEN REPUBLICANS CONSIDERED THIS POLITICALLY TOXIC ISSUE, THAT’S REALLY CHANGED NOW BECAUSE IN THE PAST WHEN THE NRA WAS VIRTUALLY UNOPPOSED AS THE SOURCE OF VOICE IN LAWMAKERS’S EARS, NOW THERE IS A REALLY BIG MOVEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE. YOU HAVE A REALLY REMARKABLE GRASSROOTS AND WELL-FUNDED BUNCH OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PUSHING. AND YOU SEE THE GROUND SWELL SUPPORT GRADUALLY BUILDING TO THE POINT THAT BACKGROUND CHECKS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BROADLY POPULAR. BUT OTHER GUN CONTROL MEASURES HAVE ALSO BECOME MORE POPULAR AMONG THE PUBLIC, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN ATTRIBUTE TO A COMBINATION OF THIS DRUM BEAT OF CONTINUED MASS SHOOTINGS AND THIS POLITICAL MOVEMENT THAT HAS ARISEN. SO THE CALCULUS FOR LAWMAKERS IS DIFFERENT NOW. AND I THINK THAT — WE SAW THAT IN 2018, RIGHT? A LOT OF DEMOCRATS IN SWING DISTRICTS RAN FORCEFULLY ON A PLATFORM OF GUN CONTROL. SO THE POLITICS ARE IN FLUX. THEY’RE CHANGING. THAT DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN CONGRESS WILL ACT. IT NEVER DOES. BUT IT DOES MEAN THIS IS A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE FOR POLITICIANS THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. .>>NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. IN IOWA, 16 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES HAT A GUN SAFETY EVENT. THEY ARE CAMPAIGNING ON IT IN 2020, A 180 FROM WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN THE PAST COUPLE DECADES. DEMOCRATS ARE CLEARLY IN THIS PLACE RIGHT NOW. PUBLIC OPINION POLLING BROADLY SEEMS TO BE IN THIS PLACE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAL LOT INITIATIVES, MAINE, NEVADA, BACKGROUND CHECKS ENDED UP FAILING. IT DIDN’T MATCH UP BEFORE THE PUBLIC OPINION POLLING. WHEN YOU TALK TO REPUBLICAN AIDES ON THE HILL, THERE IS A LOT OF SKEPTICISM THERE, AT LEAST THAT IS MY TAKE SO FAR >> THAT’S RIGHT. IN THE SHORT-TERM, EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON HOW PERSISTENT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM TO MOVE, ESPECIALLY ON THE SENATE LEVEL UNLESS THERE IS CLEAR AND CONSISTENT GUIDANCE AND THEY BELIEVE HE IS NOT GOING TO SWERVE. HE CAME OUT FOR RED FLAG LAWS. BACKED OFF ALL OF THAT. THEY HAVE MOVED IN A MAJOR WAY. THE SUBURBS ESPECIALLY HAVE MOVED. SUBURBAN MOMS, COLLEGE EDUCATED VOTERS ARE MORE IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL THAN WE HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME. THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING THE DEMOCRATS’S SHIFT IN FAVOR OF GUN CONTROL LAWS. PRESIDENT OBAMA AVOIDED IT IN IN 2008 AND 2012. DEMOCRATS HAD A MAJORITY IN 2007 AND 2011. THEY DIDN’T TOUCH THIS. THE RURAL AREAS STILL OPPOSE GUN CONTROL. THERE IS THE MENTALTY THAT IT WILL THREATEN THEIR 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS.>>YOU HAD A GREAT PIECE ABOUT SUBURBS. YOU SHOULD READ THE PIECE. IT IS INDICATIVE OF WHERE THINGS ARE POLITICALLY. THIS IS ON PRESIDENT TRUMP. EVERY REPUBLICAN I HAVE TALKED TO ON CAPITOL HILL OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST WEEK SAYS TELL ME WHERE THE PRESIDENT ENDS UP AND I WILL TELL YOU IF I CAN DO SOMETHING. TAKE A LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN FEBRUARY OF 2018.>>WE CERTAINLY HAVE TO STRENGTHEN BACKGROUND CHECKS. EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT. AND WE’RE GOING TO MAKE BACKGROUND CHECKS VERY, VERY STRONG. >>MR. PRESIDENT IT WILL HAVE TO BE YOU. RIGHT NOW THE GUN LOBBY WOULD STOP IN ITS TRACKS. .>>I LIKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY, CHRIS. I REALLY DO. I THINK IT’S TIME. I THINK IT’S TIME THAT A PRESIDENT STEPPED UP. .>>THAT WAS NOT THIS PAST WEEK. THAT WAS FEBRUARY OF 2018. MARCH, APRIL, MAY THEY DID FIX NICS. THEY DIDN’T DO ANYTHING RELATED TO BACKGROUND CHECKS AT ALL. WHY IS IT DIFFERENT NOW?>>THIS IS WHERE I THINK THE PRESIDENT’S WEEK IN BEDMINSTER MAKES FOR REAL UNCERTAINTY HERE. HE IS GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE FURIOUSLY LOBBYING HIM DURING THIS WEEK. TYPICALLY IT’S MOMENTUM AFTER THE SHOOTINGS THAT MAKES LEGISLATION HAPPEN. BUT I THINK THIS ONE-WEEK BREAK AND FOR LAWMAKERS IN AUGUST, AN AUGUST BREAK, THERE IS A CHANCE OF LOSS OF MOMENTUM FROM THIS ISSUE. AND THE PRESIDENT WILL BE HEARING FROM LOTS AND LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE. HE IS SOMEBODY PARTICULARLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO GOING OFF THE LAST PERSON HE TALKED TO. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE CONGRESS LANDS WHEN CONGRESS COMES PACK IN SESSION. THE NRA IS IN DIGS ARRAY RIGHT NOW. WE KNOW THE “WASHINGTON POST”, WAYNE LA PIERRE WAS STILL ON THE PHONE WITH THE PRESIDENT. BUT THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NRA DOESN’T HAVE THE POWER IT USED TO HAVE. AND THE PRESIDENT SAYING MULTIPLE TIMES THIS WEEK HE WANTED TO DO SOMETHING ON GUNS. INCLUDING REMARKS AT A PRIVATE MEETING ON FRIDAY.>>YOU MAKE A FASCINATING POINT ABOUT THE NRA. THE ORGANIZATION IS UNQUESTIONABLY IN A BAD PLACE IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS STRUCTURED, PEOPLE THAT HAVE LEFT. HE PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING WE’RE INTERESTED BEHIND THE SCENES. WHEN IT COMES TO BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND RED FLAG LAWS, THE NRA IS NOT THERE. THEY SAY THE ORGANIZATION HAS WEAKENED BUT IT IS MORE THAN JUST THE ORGANIZATION HERE TPHRPL VIRGINIA. IT IS THE MEMBERSHIP. AND THE MEMBERSHIP THAT SUPPORTS VERY HARTLEY PRESIDENT TRUMP. WHAT’S YOUR READ RIGHT NOW ON KIND OF THE NRA’S ROLE HOW THEY WILL PLAY THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS? .>>WE HAVE SEEN THIS PLAY OUT BEFORE. YOU PLAYED THE CLIPS FROM — AFTER PARKLAND. AND TRUMP’S SHIFT THAT TIME WAS NRA. HE HAD PRIVATE MEETINGS. AFTER THAT, PRETTY REMARKABLE PRETTY OPEN PRESS EVENT. HE CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WITH THE NRA WITH A DIFFERENT TAUPE. HE HAS KEPT THE TONE SO FAR. THE TONE HAS BEEN WHERE HE SEEMED TO WANT TO BE ON STRONGER BACKGROUND CHECKS SO FAR. I TALKED TO A FEW ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS OVER THE WEEKEND. THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A REAL INTEREST IN GETTING SOMETHING DONE. BUT RIGHT NOW THE WHITE HOUSE — THE PRESIDENT IS LEAVING IT UP TO MITCH McCONNELL AND THE SENATE REPUBLICANS TO PUT PEN TO PAPER ON WHAT THE ACTUAL CHANGES WILL LOOK LIKE. READING BETWEEN THE LINES IT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE THERE WILL BE ANYTHING TRANSFORMATIONAL HERE. THERE’S EVEN TALK ABOUT MORE INTERESTING KIND OF WHAT THEY CAN ATTACH TO IT. DOES THIS GREASE THE WHEELS FOR A DEAL OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.>>ONE THING I HAVE HEARD FROM REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL. AGAIN, YOU CAN’T LEAVE IT UP TO REPUBLICANS TO WRITE THIS. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS ON THIS. TELL ME HOW UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS WOULD HAVE STEPPED DAYTON OR EL PASO. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE HEARD FROM REPUBLICANS THESE SPECIFIC PROPOSALS WOULDN’T HAVE ADDRESSED THIS SPECIFIC SHOOTING. THAT DYNAMIC WILL HAVE TO SHIFT OR SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN BUT WON’T BE AS BROAD.>>THAT IS THE SLIPPERY SLOPE YOU PLAY WITH. >>THERE ARE DIFFERENT>>TIME AND AGAIN PRESIDENTS ARE CALLED UPON TO ACT AS CONSOLERS IN CHIEF. HE HAS STRUGGLED AT TIMES WITH FILL THE ROLE. IN THE AFTERMATH HE OFFERED THESE WORDS TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>NOW IS THE TIME TO SET DESTRUCTIVE PARTISANSHIP ASIDE. SO DESTRUCTIVE. AND FIND THE COURAGE TO ANSWER HATRED WITH UNITY, DEVOTION AND LOVE. .>>THOSE ARE THE RIGHT WORDS, I THINK EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGED. BUT ONES HE FAILED TO FOLLOW HIMSELF. HE FEATURED POLITICAL SCORE SETTLING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS.>>MY CRITICS ARE POLITICAL PEOPLE. THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE POINT. IN MANY CASES THEY’RE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND THEY’RE VERY LOW IN THE POLLS.>>SHERROD BROWN, HE AND THE MAYOR, THEY’RE VERY DISHONEST PEOPLE. HE FAILED AS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. .>>THREE MONTHS AGO WE READ A SPEECH. WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE ARENA? BETO HAD LIKE 400 PEOPLE. THEY SAID HIS CROWD WAS WONDERFUL.>>THE PRESIDENT VENTING FROM AIR FORCE ONE ABOUT NEWS COVERAGE, LOCAL OFFICIALS IN OHIO AND TEXAS. BEHIND THE SCENES, TRUMP FUMED ABOUT HOW IT WAS COVERED SAYING THE VISITS DID NOT GO AS PLANNED. ROLLING THAT ALL OUT IN A TIMELINE FASHION IS IMPORTANT. ITS VALUE. YOU UNDERSTAND THE PRESS ISN’T JUST DOING THIS.>>YEAH. >>HE’S DOING IT. WHY?>>IT IS JUST HIS PERSONALITY HERE. THE WHITE HOUSE GETS VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THE PORTRAYAL OF PICKING OUT SLICES OF THIS TRIP AND PAINTING HIM AS UNABLE TO CONNECT WITH VOTERS. THIS IS HOW HE CONNECTS WITH VOTERS, RIGHT? AND IT IS — THEY FEEL THIS IS ALL PRICED INTO THE EQUATION HERE. LIKE YOU HAVE — WHEN YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS ATTACKING TRUMP AS A WHITE SUPREMACIST, THEY FEEL LIKE THAT — THAT FALLS ON DEAF EARS. BUT WHERE THERE IS CONCERN IS PEOPLE WHO ARE EMBARRASSED BY TRUMP AND ASKING HOW THEY ARE DEALING WITH THAT. A WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL TOLD ME OVER THE WEEKEND, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?>>YEAH. THE INTERESTING THING IS WHEN YOU READ LOCAL PRESS, THE PEOPLE HE MET WITH SAID VERY NICE THINGS. SAID HE WAS EFFECTIVE AND DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IN THOSE SITUATIONS. INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THAT, HE IS FOCUSING ON POLITICAL ATTACKS. THE SHARP DEMOCRATIC ATTACKS ABOUT THE ISSUES OF RACE AND THE ISSUE NOW SEEMS TO BE A LITMUS TEST ON WHITE SUPREMACY. TAKE A LISTEN.>>IS THE PRESIDENT A WHITE SUPREMACIST?>>HE IS. HE’S ALSO MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.>>HE IS GIVING PEOPLE LICENSE TO NOT ONLY HATE BUT TO FOMENT THAT HATEFUL VIOLENCE.>>HIS CLEAR LANGUAGE AND IN CODE, THIS PRESIDENT HAS FANNED THE FLAMES OF WHITE SUPREMACY IN THIS NATION.>>HE’S A MAN WHO COZIES UP TO THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS. THIS IS WHAT HE’S DONE. THE WINK AND A NOD.>>THIS IS A DIFFERENT PRESIDENT. THIS IS A DIFFERENT TIME. BUT THOSE ARE EXPLOSIVE, EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATIONS IF YOU WILL.>>THEY REALLY ARE. THEY ARE ALLEGATIONS NOT JUST AT THE PRESIDENT BUT ANYBODY WHO WROTE IT FOR HIM. THIS PRESIDENT WE ALL KNOW HE SIMPLY CAN’T LET A CRITICISM OR ATTACK GO UNANSWERED. SO THAT’S WHY WE SAW THE TWEETS FROM HIM. THE MEDIA IT IS JUST WHO HE IS AND EVERYBODY WHO IS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT COMFORTABLE SUPPORTERS BUT ALSO ANSWERING HIS CRITICS.>>YOU MAKE AN INTERESTING POINT. THERE IS A BALANCE. DO YOU GO ALL IN ON THE WHITE SUPREMACIST ANGLE. ONE OF THE MOST DISCUSSED ISSUES IN POLITICS IS BOUND TO UPSET BLACK VOTERS, ARGUABLY THE MOST INFLUENTIAL DEMOGRAPHIC IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. I HAVE HEARD THAT, HOW DO WE THREAD THIS NEEDLE HERE GOING INTO 2020? IS THAT KIND OF YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THINGS TOO?>>YEAH. AUTO ITS A COMPLEX ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS. NOT CLEAR HOW THIS PLAYS, OF HIS BECAUSE THERE IS A BASE FOR THEM TO MOBILIZE. THERE IS ALSO A BASE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP WHEN THEY HEAR THIS STUFF, I THINK THEY GET FIRED UP ABOUT IT. THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY A POLL BELIEVES THE PRESIDENT IS RACIST AND HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND WHITE NATIONALISTS ARE SAYING THE PRESIDENT IS FURTHERING THEIR CAUSE. THEY LIKE THINGS ABOUT HIS RHETORIC. DEMOCRATS LOOK AT THAT, THEY LOOK HOW THEIR VOTERS ARE RESPONDING. THEY FEEL THE NEED TO CHANNEL THE SENTIMENTS.>>YOU MADE A KEY POINT. NO ONE IS SURE HOW THIS WILL PLAY. .>>I THINK IT’S RISKY FOR DEMOCRATS. IT’S ONE THING TO SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT HASN’T APPROPRIATELY CONDEMNED OR STKAPBD HIMSELF FROM WHITE SUPREMACISTS. IT’S ANOTHER TO CALL HIM A WHITE SUPREMACIST, WHICH IS AN ATTACK ON ANY OFSDZ SUPPORTERS WHICH THEY NEED TO WIN OVER IN THEY ARE GOING TO WIN IN 2020. >>>THE IOWA STATE FAIR. 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES READY TO DIVE INTO THAT LOCAL CUISINE. .>>I SAW THE BUTTER COW FROM A FAR. BUT I HAVE NOT ACTUALLY TRIED THE FRIED BUTTER. I HAVE BEEN FASTING ALL DAY TO HAVE IT GUILT-FREE. >>I HAVE A WHOLE RIFT ABOUT HEALTH FOOD. I DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS THE PLACE TO GIVE THAT SPEECH.>>I WANT TO BE THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL>>>THAT’S WHAT I CALL IOWA NICE.>>AND I LOVE THAT IOWA NICE.>>I HAVE LEARNED ABOUT IOWA NICE.>>THANKS FOR YOUR IOWA NICE.>>IOWA NICE. GET IT? 2020 DEMOCRATS WORKING OVERTIME TO FLATTER THOSE CRUCIAL IOWA VOTERS THIS WEEKEND. AFTER ALL, IOWANS HAVE A REPUTATION NOT ONLY FOR BEING IOWA NICE BUT TO PICK THE NOMINEE. THESE ARE THE WINNERS OF THE IOWA CAUCUS US OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST EIGHT ELECTION CYCLES. HERE’S WHO ACTUALLY ENDED UP BECOMING THE NOMINEE. SIX OF THE EIGHT. AND ASTERISK BECAUSE TOM HARKIN WAS UNCONTESTED PRIMARY. IOWA PICKS WINNERS IN THE IOWA PRIMARY. SKWROLG ONE THING THAT IS INTERESTING, ONE OF THE LOWEST ATTENDEES, JOE BIDEN. I EXPECT THAT WILL CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE ALL THE POLLING IS RIGHT NOW. JOE BIDEN, 28%. UP ONE POINT IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. ELIZABETH WARREN UP 12 POINTS TO 19%. WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS. THERE IS A REASON. YOU SAW IT OVER THE COURSE OF THIS WEEKEND. NOW LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT FIRST AND SECOND CHOICE. THIS IS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IOWA CAUCUSES. 40%, BIDEN. WARREN, 38 PERIODS OF TIME. HARRIS STRONG AS WELL. JOE BIDEN CLEARLY THE FRONT-RUNNER IN IOWA AS HE IS WITH NATIONAL POLLS. KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON ELIZABETH WARREN. SHE’S MOVING. PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION AND THE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO SHOW. .>>I’M AT THE IOWA STATE FAIR! WOO!>>ONLY BEEN IN THIS RACE FOR ABOUT 10 WEEKS. EIGHTH TRIP TO IOWA.>>THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO REMIND THE COUNTRY AND EACH OTHER THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERMANENTLY RED STATE OR COUNTY.>>YOU TAKE THIS RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY. I LOVE YOU FOR YOU. YOU’RE A BIT SPOILED. YOU ARE USED TO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SHOWING UP IN, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOUR LIVING ROOM ESSENTIALLY.>>IOWA STATE FAIR. WE WILL DO MUTT TON BUSTING. DON’T WORRY. WE HAVE A HELMET. WE WANT TO KEEP YOU SAFE. WHAT IS YOUR READ ON THE STATE OF IOWA? .>>SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL THEM WHAT IOWA NICE IS. MIDWEST NICE ISN’T REALLY NICE. IT MEANS YOU ARE BURYING YOUR FEELINGS AND ACTING NICE OPENLY. THE VOTERS ARE NICE TO YOUR FACE. I THINK AS YOU SAID, THERE IS CLEARLY A FEELING THAT ELIZABETH WARREN IS ON THE MOVE. HER CAMPAIGN HAS ALWAYS PUT HEAVY EMPHASIS ON IOWA. THEY BELIEVE THAT SHE HAS THIS SORT OF PRAIRIE POPULISM THAT CAN APPEAL TO NOT ONLY THE LIBERAL ACTIVISTS WHO ARE STRONG BUT ALSO TO MORE RURAL VOTERS, FARMERS, WORKING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT RESPOND TO HER ECONOMIC APPEAL. THERE IS A TORTOISE AND THE HARE THING. SHE HAS BEEN SLOW AND STEADY. SHE HAS BEEN BUILDING CREDIBILITY IN VOTERS’S MINDS LESS ABOUT ONE BIG MOMENT THAN PEOPLE TURNING TO HER PLANS, SUBSTANTIVE. BUT BIDEN IS STILL IN VERY STRONG POSITION. THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING TO DISLODGE HIM. AND THEY HAVEN’T FIGURED IT OUT YET. A LOT OF IT IS VOTERS BEING INTERESTED IN THIS VERY LARGE POOL OF CANDIDATES AND TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN STARTING TO GRAVITATE TOWARD THE SAME GROUP OF FIRST-YEAR CANDIDATES. BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT THAT WILL HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND THE IOWA CAUCUS AND IT’S VERY MUCH IN FLUX.>>ELIZABETH WARREN’S FIELD OPERATION IS FOR REAL. PEOPLE SHOULDN’T SLEEP ON THAT. THAT IS SHOWING RIGHT NOW. JOE BIDEN, WHAT COULD BRING JOE BIDEN DOWN IN IOWA OR NATIONALLY? WE TALKED ABOUT THESE SLIPS HE HAS. YESTERDAY HE TALKED ABOUT HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT WHEN PARKLAND KIDS WERE IN THE SHOOTING. HE WAS NOT VICE PRESIDENT. AND THIS COMMENT HE MADE. TAKE A LISTEN.>>WE HAD THIS NOTION SOMEHOW IF YOU’RE POOR YOU CANNOT DO IT. POOR KIDS ARE JUST AS TALENTED AND JUST AS BRIGHT AS WHITE KI KIDS. THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ANYBODY ELSE CAN DO GIVEN A SHOT.>>HIS CAMPAIGN SAID IMMEDIATELY AFTER HE MISSPOKE. HE IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED HIMSELF. HE DID. IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU SEE IT AND YOU SEE IT REPEATEDLY ON THE STUMP. IS THIS JUST BAKED IN IS THE QUESTION AT THIS POINT OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM?>>LIKE WITH TRUMP, BEING UNABLE TO IGNORE CRITICISM, BIDEN HAS HAD A BUNCH OF THESE SENIOR MOMENTS. YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THIS IS WHO HE IS AS A CANDIDATE. JUST LIKE THE PRESIDENT IS WHO HE IS. HE’S NOT GOING TO LET SHOTS GO UNANSWERED. IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE AFFECTED BIDEN. THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED. CANDIDATES SEEM TO BE SORT OF — OR VOTE, EXCUSE ME, SEEM TO BE FAIRLY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS JOE BIDEN.>>AND THIS JOE BIDEN CONTINUES TO SHOW HE BEATS PRESIDENT TRUMP BY A LARGE MARGIN OR SIZABLE MARGIN. KAMALA HARRIS’S CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED THEIR FIRST AD. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.>>AFTER WE WERE FED AND IN BED, OUR MOTHER WOULD SIT UP TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT ALL WORK. THAT’S WHAT I’M FIGHTING FOR. REAL RELIEF FOR FAMILIES LIKE YOURS. NOT IN 20 YEARS, NOT IN 30. STARTING MY FIRST DAY AS PRESIDENT. BECAUSE YOU’VE WAITED LONG ENOUGH TO GET A GOOD NIGHT’S SLEEP.>>CROWDS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION. SHE WAS BUYING PORK CHOPS ON A STICK SIX AT A TIME. THAT IS BIG IN IOWA.>>THERE IS THE PERSONAL STORY SHE SUGGESTED SHE WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFTER THAT FIRST DEBATE MOMENT. THE LITTLE GIRL WAS ME. DESEGREGATION AND BUSSING. SHE’S BEEN UP AND DOWN IN THE POLLS. SHE IS KIND OF BACK TO WHERE SHE WAS BEFORE. SHE HAS NOT NATURALLY BEEN DOING THIS ON THE STUMP. IT DOES NOT COME NATURALLY TO HER TO TALK ABOUT HERSELF. BUT SHE’S TRYING. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU’RE COMING FROM, WHY YOU ARE SUPPORTING THESE THINGS AND WHETHER THERE IS CONVICTION BEHIND THEM TO GO.>>YOU’RE A VETERAN OF CAMPAIGNS. WHEN DOES IT BECOME REAL IN IOWA? ARE WE THERE YET?>>IT HAS BEEN ELIZABETH WARREN, KAMALA HARRIS, THE POSITION ON HOW TO TAKE OVER THE LEAD FROM BIDEN. THEY HAVEN’T DONE THAT. TRUMP WAS AT THE TOP OF THE POLLS IN 2016 AND ALL THE CONVERSATION WAS WHO WAS GOING TO EVENTUALLY TAKE OVER FROM HIM. WHO WAS BEST POSITIONED TO TAKE OVER THE LEAD? AT SOME POINT THE LEAD STUCK AND BECAME THE NOMINATION. I THINK YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD EARLIER. BIDEN BEING ABLE TO BEAT TRUMP. MY COLLEAGUE DID A STORY OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT TRUMP’S SOFT POLLING WITH SENIORS, A CRUCIAL ELECTORATE, SLICE OF THE ELECTORATE WITH REPUBLICANS. ONE OF THE BEST QUOTES IN THE STORY WAS WITH A TRUCK DRIVER FROM INDIANA WHO SAID RIGHT NOW I’M A BIDEN MAN. ACCORDING TO ALL THE POLLS HE CAN BEAT TRUMP. AS LONG AS BIDEN CAN HOLD ONTO THAT, THIS MAY BE THE ONE WE SEE THE NEXT FEW AND HALF OF THE FIELD COULD BE WATCHING FROM HOME. CANDIDATES MUST HIT 2% IN FOUR EARLY STATE OR NATIONAL POLLS AND HAVE 130,000 INDIVIDUAL DONORS. THE ONES WHO HAVEN’T MET THAT CRITERIA SPENT THE WAOEBLGD PRACTICALLY BEGGING FOR A TINY BIT OF SUPPORT.>>IT’S A PLEASURE TO SPEED DATE WITH YOU HERE TODAY. IF YOU WANT A SECOND DATE YOU CAN GO TO TIMRYANFORAMERICA.COM IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WHO HAS A DOLLAR AFTER EATING ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE HERE, PLEASE SEND IT.>>I’VE BEEN TO ALL 99 OF YOUR COUNTIES. COME ON, ALL 99 COUNTIES.>>NAME THE POWERFUL FORCES — NO. WE ALL EXPECT THE FIELD TO WHITTLE DOWN ONCE ON STAGE. HOW MANY END UP THERE?>>SO FAR THERE ARE NINE THAT ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE NEXT DEBATE. I THINK THIS IS DO OR DIE TIME. YOU’RE NOT ON THE MINDS OF PEOPLE AND NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE YOUR CASE WHEN IT MATTERS. YOU FALL AWAY. VOTERS ALREADY HAVE. THE FIELD IS IN A CLEAR TOP FOUR IN EVERY POLL NATIONALLY. THERE IS A FIFTH HANGING AROUND. EVERYONE ELSE 2% OR LESS. CANDIDATES NEED TO GO AFTER POTENTIAL SUPPORTERS. HICKENLOOPER WENT AFTER BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN. JOE BIDEN IS QUESTIONING THE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD DEMOCRATS. .>>HOW LONG DO PEOPLE STAY IN, HOW LONG DO THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO STAY IN. WILL ONE DOLLAR AT A TIME ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO FINANCE A CAMPAIGN. THERE IS THIS STRATEGY FROM SENATOR MICHAEL BENNET. I PROMISE YOU WON’T HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ME FOR TWO WEEKS OF A TIME. I’LL DO MY JOB WATCHING OUT FOR NORTH KOREA AND ENDING THIS TRADE WAR. SO YOU CAN GO RAISE YOUR KIDS AND LIVE YOUR LIVES. ISN’T EVERYBODY TIRED OF THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS? I THINK THERE ARE SOME>>>PRESIDENT TRUMP APPEARS TO BE SIDING WITH KIM JONG-UN OVER HIS OWN MILITARY AND SOME OF AMERICA’S CLOSEST ALLIES. ON SATURDAY, NORTH KOREA LAUNCHED SHORT-RANGE MISSILES FOR THE FIFTH TIME IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS. THE REGIME SAID IT’S A BRAND-NEW TYPE OF WEAPON. THE STATE NEWS AGENCY RELEASED THESE PICTURES OF A SMILING KIM JONG-UN LOOKING ON. TRUMP SAID IT ISN’T A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THEY AREN’T LONG RANGE MISSILES AND AREN’T NUCLEAR. EARLIER THIS WEEK HE SAID HE RECEIVED A BEAUTIFUL LETTER FROM KIM. U.S. COMMANDERS AND A LOT OF LAWMAKERS CALL ESSENTIAL TO REGIONAL SECURITY.>>HE WASN’T HAPPY WITH THE TEST, THE — THE WAR GAMES, THE WAR GAMES ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH THE UNITED STATES. AND AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE NEVER LIKED IT EITHER. I’VE NEVER BEEN A FAN. YOU KNOW WHY? I DON’T LIKE PAYING FOR IT. WE SHOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR IT. I TOLD THAT TO SOUTH KOREA. I DON’T LIKE IT EITHER >> IN A FOLLOW-UP PAIR OF TWEETS ABOUT KIM’S LETTER, HE REFERRED TO THE RIDICULOUS AND 13E7BSIVE EXERCISES AND SAID I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING KIM JONG-UN IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE. WHILE THEY MAY NOT BE NUCLEAR OR LONG RANGE, THEY ARE ALL VIOLATIONS. WALK ME THROUGH WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS ON NORTH KOREA, PERIOD.>>SO THESE ARE BALLISTIC MISSILE TESTS. AS YOU SAID, IN VIOLATION OF U.N. RESOLUTIONS. THE PRESIDENT ESSENTIALLY SAYS I DON’T CARE. BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT A THREAT TO AMERICAN NATIONAL SECURITY. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO DOESN’T SEE ALLIANCES AS PART OF AMERICAN POWER OR AS PART OF I THINK WHAT’S IMPORTANT, A PART OF SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO THE PRESERVATION OF AMERICAN NATIONAL SECURITY. SO HE IS SAYING HE DOESN’T CARE THEY ARE A THREAT TO JAPANESE NATIONAL SECURITY OR SOUTH KOREAN NATIONAL SECURITY. TRADITIONALLY, SOME OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT ALLIES. SO THIS HAS CAUSED A LOT OF TREPIDATION IN JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA. WHAT THE PRESIDENT WANTS IS FURTHER NEGOTIATION WITH KIM JONG-UN AND SO HE’S — HE WANTS TO SET ASIDE THE VIOLATION OF THESE U.N. RESOLUTIONS GETTING BACK TO THE TABLE WITH KIM FOR A THIRD SUMMIT.>>HE’S CONSISTENT. HE HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. HE USED THEM AS A CARROT STICK. BENDER, IS THE TOP RANKS OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY KIND OF DEPARTED OR IS IN THE PROCESS OF DEPARTING WITH ALL OF THIS GOING ON. SUE GORDON RESIGNED. YOU MAY NOT KNOW HER NAME. AT LEAST ON CAPITOL HILL, VERY WELL KNOWN AND VERY WELL RESPECTED. IN HER NOTE TO THE PRESIDENT SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO RESIGN, MR. PRESIDENT, I OFFER THIS AS AN ACT OF RESPECT AND PATRIOTISM. YOU SHOULD HAVE YOUR TEAM. IN OTHER WORDS, SHE WAS FORCED OUT. WHERE IS THE DNI IN TERMS OF STRUCTURE?>>WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO BEFORE WE HAVE A NEW — WE HAVE A REPLACEMENT AT DNI. IT WILL BE CLOSELY WATCHED FOR A WHILE AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, INCLUDING WHAT WE WERE SEEING IN NORTH KOREA AND HOW THINGS ARE UNFOLDING IN NORTH KOREA. THE SAME GOES WITH INTEL FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS HERE. BUT HE ALSO COMES AT IT FROM — THAT THESE SORT OF INSTITUTIONS HAVEN’T GONE THE JOB DONE BEFORE HIM. AND SO IT IS HIS NEW WAY OF THINKING HERE, HIS DIFFERENT APPROACH. >>IT’S WHERE HE’S BEEN. IT’S . >>>TIME NOW FOR REPORTERS TO SHARE A PAGE FROM THE NOTEBOOK TO GET YOU OUT IN FRONT OF THE NEWS THIS WEEK. ANNA, I’LL START WITH YOU. >>I’M WATCHING WHO WILL REPLACE JON HUNTSMAN AS U.S. AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA. THE POSITION HAS A PRETTY STORIED HISTORY WITH NOTABLE DIGNITARIES SERVING IN THAT POST GOING BACK TO JOHN KENYAN AND AV AVRIL HARRIMAN AND IT IS A LESSEN JOYABLE AND PERHAPS ELITE POSITION IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE DOGGED THIS PRESIDENT ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. AND ANY PROGRESS THAT IS MADE IN THE RELATIONSHIP, I THINK, IS CAST WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S RELATIONSHIP WITH PUTIN. SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE, I THINK, WHO REPLACES HUNTSMAN. THERE IS TALK ABOUT STEVEN BEGIN WHO IS NOW THE LEADING — THE LEADING THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH NORTH KOREA REPLACING HUNTSMAN WHICH SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HOW THE TALKS WITH NORTH KOREA ARE GOING AND PERHAPS THAT IS EVEN LESS ENJOYABLE THAN SERVING AS THE CHIEF EMISSARY TO RUSSIA. >>LOW BAR. QUITE A BALANCING ACT. SAL. >>SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM KICKED UP A STORM IN THE WEEK WHEN HE SAID REPUBLICANS WOULD TAKE ANOTHER STAB AT REPEALING OBAMACARE IF THEY WIN FULL CONTROL IN 2020 AND I WANT TO THROW WATER ON THIS AND I SPOKE TO SEVERAL SENIOR REPUBLICAN AIDES WHO SAID IT IS UNLIKELY TO HAPPEN AND ONE TEXTED ME BACK A LAUGHING FACE EMOTION AND OTHER ONE SAID IT IS JUST LINDSEY BEING LINDSEY. THEY DON’T WANT THIS TO BE THE CONVERSATION AND THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON MEDICARE FOR ALL AND THEY BELIEVE THAT IS A GOOD CONDITION AND THEY DON’T WANT A REPEAT OF THE A.P.A. >>AND THE EMOJI RESPONSE. ALWAYS ENJOYABLE. >>BEWARE OF THE EYES OF BEDMINSTER. I WAS IN A SUMMER RETREAT BUT THAT HARDLY MEANS A BREAK FROM THE HEADLINES. HE THREATENED KIM JONG-UN AND ATTACKED LeBRON JAMES AND CALLED FOR A BOYCOTT OF HARLEY-DAVIDSON. TRUMP POLL NUMBERS TENDS TO PICK UP WHEN HE CAN STAY OUT OF THE NEWS. SO I’M WATCHING THIS WEEK IS IF THE PRESIDENT COULD GET A LITTLE BIT OF R&R AND CONTINUE A SUMMER OF UNFORCED ERRORS FROM A CONTROVERSIAL PERFORMANCE THIS WEEK, THIS PAST WEEK IN EL PASO AND DAYTON AND THE RACIST TWEETS HE POSTED WHILE WE WERE SITTING AT THIS VERY TABLE A FEW WEEKS AGO. >>STEAL YOURSELVES FOR TWEETS. MOLLY?>>IMPEACHMENT. IS IT HAPPENING OR NOT? THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MIXED SIGNALS BEING SENT BY THE DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE RECENTLY. AS YOU’VE HAD JERRY NADLER AND OTHERS SAYING THAT, IN FACT, IMPEACHMENT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY EVEN THOUGH THE HOUSE WHERE A MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS NOW DO SUPPORT OPENING AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY NEVER HAD WHAT IS USUALLY CONSIDERED THE OPENING OF AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, THE FULL VOTE ON THE HOUSE FLOOR ABOUT WHETHER TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION. SO DEMOCRATS ARE — MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE BACK IN DISTRICTS FOR THE SUMMER RECESS AND SOME ARE KIND OF CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT GOING ON WITH THE LEADERSHIP SAYING NOTHING HAS CHANGED, NOTHING TO SEE HERE. IS THIS A CLEVER STRATEGY, TRYING TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS BY MULLFYING THE PRO-IMPEACHMENT BASE AND AT THE SAME TIME NOT SETTING OFF THE PRESIDENT OR HIS ALLIES WITH A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT. SO MEANWHILE, CHAIRMAN NADLER SET OUT A VERY AMBITIOUS TIMELINE EXPECTING TO GET COURT DECISIONS ON THIS LITIGATION FOR THE INVESTIGATIONS, GET MORE WITNESSES BEFORE THE COMMITTEES IN THE FALL AND POTENTIALLY HAVE A VOTE ON IMPEACHMENT BY THE END OF THE YEAR. SOME SKEPTICISM ABOUT THAT. AND MORE THAN ANYTHING, CONFUSION. SO I THINK WHEN THE CONGRESS RETURNS AFTER LABOR DAY, YOU CAN EXPECT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON HERE. >>NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. IMPEACHMENT IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER APPARENTLY. I’LL CLOSE WITH THIS. ABOUT A DECADE AGO I GOT IN THE HABIT OF ASKING LAWMAKERS AND AIDES WHAT THEY WOULD BE WATCHING DURING THE AUGUST RECESS. THIS TIME AROUND I’VE BEEN STRUCK BY KIND OF THE ACUTE AND GROWING UNEASINESS WITH THE STATE OF GLOBAL AFFAIRS, AMONG THE ISSUES RAISED IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, CHINA ON TWO FRONTS, TRADE AND THE POSTURE TOWARD UNREST IN HONG KONG. IRAN, WHICH IS DISCUSSING NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN WITH THEIR OWN HISTORIC TENSIONS NOW WITH FROZEN DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS. PAKISTAN AND INDIA WHERE THE INDIAN GOVERNMENTS MOVE TO WIPE OUT THE AUTONOMY OF THE REST OF THE KASHMIR REGION HAS PUT THEM ON EDGE. AFGHANISTAN, PEACE TALKS CONTINUE BUT SO DO TALIBAN ATTACKS. ISIS, THE GROUP HAS SOLIDIFIED INSURGENT CAPABILITY IN IRAQ AND RESEARCHING IN SYRIA. AND MENTIONED TURKEY, YEMEN, VENEZUELA AND BREXIT AND ONE SUMMONED IT UP, THERE IS JUST A HELL OF A LOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT COULD BECOME A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM. LET THAT BE A GOOD REMINDER, AUGUST IS RARELY SEDENTARY AS THE EMPTY HALLS OF THE CAPITOL WOULD MAKE YOU BELIEVE. THAT IS IT FOR “INSIDE POLITICS.” CATCH US WEEK DAYS AT NOON EASTERN. UP NEXT “STATE OF THE UNION” WITH JAKE TAPPER AND HIS GUESTS INCLUDE BETO O’ROURKE AND CORY

Trey Gowdy: I am ‘heartbroken’ for Epstein’s victims


NEIL: WHAT HAPPENS NOW AFTER A PARENT DEATH BY SUICIDE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THE 66-YEAR-OLD MILLION OR WHO POWELL AROUND WITH SOME VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE AND WHAT HAPPENS NOW? AN INVESTIGATION THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS GETTING PROMISING RESULTS. FORMER HOUSE OVERSIGHT CHAIRMAN CONGRESSMAN TREY GOWDY WITH US. WHERE DOES THIS CASE GO?>>THE CASE AGAINST HIM IS OVER. TO THE EXTENT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO AIDED AND ABETTED OR HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THESE CRIMES AND HAD A DUTY TO REPORT AND FAILED TO DO SO, SUFFICIENT FACTUAL PREDICATE, I AM HEARTBROKEN ONLY FOR THE VICTIMS WHO WERE DENIED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THEIR ATTACKER, HE IS NOT IN CONTROL. HE’S NOT IN POWER. HE’S NOT CALLING THE SHOTS. HE IS IN COURT IN A JUMPSUIT AND HANDCUFFED. FOR A LOT OF VICTIMS THAT FINAL IMAGE PROVIDES CLOSURE TO THE EXTENT YOU CAN HAVE IT. I AM STARTING WITH THEM BUT HE WASN’T GOING TO TESTIFY AGAINST OTHERS. I WOULD NOT GIVE HIM A TIME TO GO IMPLICATE PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN LESS CULPABLE. THAT MAKES NO SENSE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. I WILL SAY THIS. YOU CAN’T GET THE DEATH PENALTY FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN TAKING ANOTHER LIFE BUT MOST AMERICANS THINK YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT FOR GETTING A SEX ASSAULT ON A CHILD. THE SUPREME COURT DISAGREES BUT MOST AMERICANS IF WE HAD A HIERARCHY OF CRIMES, INCLUDING SEXUAL CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN, WOULD BE RIGHT UP NEAR THE TOP OF IT SO I AM GLAD HE IS DEAD BUT I’M SITE FOR THE VICTIMS THAT THEY ARE DENIED AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HIM IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. NEIL: HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH, A LOT OF PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS THAT HE COMMITTED SUICIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE, ASSUMING HE WAS UNDER 24/7 SURVEILLANCE, HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?>>JACK RUBY COULD SHOOT LEE HARVEY OSWALD IN A POLICE STATION. I’M A BIG BELIEVER IN GATHERING THE FACTS AND YOU CAN DRAW WHATEVER CONCLUSION YOU WANT FROM THE FACTS. TALK TO THE GUARDS. PEOPLE PARTICULARLY CRIMINALS, HIGH END CRIMINALS, EITHER ESCAPING, TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE. THAT IS HOW THEY EVEN RATED CAPTURE THUS FAR BECAUSE THEY ARE CREATIVE. I’M GOING TO WITHHOLD JUDGMENT

NYT Details Epstein’s Deep Ties To Wall Street | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


>>>THIS MORNING A SERIES OF NEW>>>THIS MORNING A SERIES OF NEW REPORTS HAVE FOCUSED ON REPORTS HAVE FOCUSED ON ANSWERING ONE LINGERING QUESTION ANSWERING ONE LINGERING QUESTION IN THE CASE AGAINST JEFFREY IN THE CASE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. THE FINANCEER WHO PLED NOT THE FINANCEER WHO PLED NOT GUILTY TO CHARGES OF SEX GUILTY TO CHARGES OF SEX TRAFFICKING OF TEENAGE GIRLS. TRAFFICKING OF TEENAGE GIRLS. HOW ON EARTH DID EPSTEIN MAKE HOW ON EARTH DID EPSTEIN MAKE ALL OF HIS MONEY? ALL OF HIS MONEY? ACCORDING TO THE “NEW YORK ACCORDING TO THE “NEW YORK TIMES” HE HAD DEEP TIES TO SOME TIMES” HE HAD DEEP TIES TO SOME OF WALL STREET’S TOP FIGURES. OF WALL STREET’S TOP FIGURES. “THE TIMES” DETAILS EPSTEIN, “THE TIMES” DETAILS EPSTEIN, QUOTE, LIKED TO PORTRAY HIMSELF QUOTE, LIKED TO PORTRAY HIMSELF AS A FINANCIAL WIZARD, SOMEONE AS A FINANCIAL WIZARD, SOMEONE WHOSE BUSINESS AND INVESTING WHOSE BUSINESS AND INVESTING ACUMEN MADE HIM INDISPENSABLE TO ACUMEN MADE HIM INDISPENSABLE TO CORPORATE EXECUTIVES AND OTHER CORPORATE EXECUTIVES AND OTHER LEADERS BUT THERE IS VERY LITTLE LEADERS BUT THERE IS VERY LITTLE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT NOTION. EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT NOTION. MR. EPSTEIN NONETHELESS MANAGED MR. EPSTEIN NONETHELESS MANAGED TO AFFIX HIMSELF TO A HANDFUL OF TO AFFIX HIMSELF TO A HANDFUL OF PROMINENT WALL STREET VETERANS. PROMINENT WALL STREET VETERANS. MEANWHILE AN ARTICLE IN “VANITY MEANWHILE AN ARTICLE IN “VANITY FAIR” DIVES INTO EPSTEIN’S FAIR” DIVES INTO EPSTEIN’S RELATIONSHIP WITH BILLIONAIRE RELATIONSHIP WITH BILLIONAIRE HEDGE FUND MANAGER GLEN DUBIN HEDGE FUND MANAGER GLEN DUBIN AND HOW EPSTEIN TURNED PERSONAL AND HOW EPSTEIN TURNED PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS INTO MULTIMILLION RELATIONSHIPS INTO MULTIMILLION DOLLAR DEALS FOR HIMSELF. DOLLAR DEALS FOR HIMSELF. WHY EXACTLY THESE WALL STREET WHY EXACTLY THESE WALL STREET VETERANS STAYED BY HIS SIDE FOR VETERANS STAYED BY HIS SIDE FOR SO MANY YEARS. SO MANY YEARS. JOINING ME NOW BILL COEN WHO JOINING ME NOW BILL COEN WHO ALSO DUG INTO EPSTEIN’S WALL ALSO DUG INTO EPSTEIN’S WALL STREET NETWORK. STREET NETWORK. IN HIS MUST READ “VANITY FAIR” IN HIS MUST READ “VANITY FAIR” PIECE AND THE EDITOR BEHIND THE PIECE AND THE EDITOR BEHIND THE STUNNING “NEW YORK TIMES” STUNNING “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORT. REPORT. KATE, WALK US THROUGH THE KATE, WALK US THROUGH THE NETWORK THAT EPSTEIN BUILT. NETWORK THAT EPSTEIN BUILT. THE FACT THAT THE HEAD OF THE FACT THAT THE HEAD OF JPMORGAN’S PRIVATE BANK VISITED JPMORGAN’S PRIVATE BANK VISITED EPSTEIN NOT IN HIS MANSION, NOT EPSTEIN NOT IN HIS MANSION, NOT AT HIS ISLAND, BUT IN HIS WORK AT HIS ISLAND, BUT IN HIS WORK RELEASE PRISON OFFICE. RELEASE PRISON OFFICE.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. IT’S PRETTY PHENOMENAL. IT’S PRETTY PHENOMENAL. LET’S TALK ABOUT STALEY FIRST. LET’S TALK ABOUT STALEY FIRST. AT THE TIME A SENIOR EXECUTIVE AT THE TIME A SENIOR EXECUTIVE AT JPMORGAN RUNNING THE ASSET AT JPMORGAN RUNNING THE ASSET MANAGEMENT DIVISION. MANAGEMENT DIVISION. WHEN HE STARTED IN THE JPMORGAN WHEN HE STARTED IN THE JPMORGAN ROLE HE WAS TOLD HE NEEDED TO ROLE HE WAS TOLD HE NEEDED TO KNOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN BECAUSE HE KNOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN BECAUSE HE WAS A RAINMAKER OF SORTS WHO WAS A RAINMAKER OF SORTS WHO BROUGHT CLIENTS TO JPMORGAN AND BROUGHT CLIENTS TO JPMORGAN AND WAS A CLIENT HIMSELF IN THE WAS A CLIENT HIMSELF IN THE PRIVATE BANK. PRIVATE BANK. SO HE DID MEET HIM. SO HE DID MEET HIM. EPSTEIN APPARENTLY DID STEER EPSTEIN APPARENTLY DID STEER CLIENTS TO STALEY AND JPMORGAN. CLIENTS TO STALEY AND JPMORGAN. DOZENS OF THEM. DOZENS OF THEM.>>BEING A CONNECTOR ISN’T THAT>>BEING A CONNECTOR ISN’T THAT ODD. ODD. YOU GET PAID TO BE THE MIDDLE YOU GET PAID TO BE THE MIDDLE GUY. GUY.>>SURE.>>SURE.>>BUT WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON?>>BUT WHEN HE WAS IN PRISON?>>SO STALEY, ANOTHER IMPORTANT>>SO STALEY, ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE TOUCHING ON GLEN DUBIN AS PIECE TOUCHING ON GLEN DUBIN AS WELL. WELL. STALEY MEETS GLEN DUBIN WHO RUNS STALEY MEETS GLEN DUBIN WHO RUNS HIBRIDGE CAPITAL MANAGEMENT HIBRIDGE CAPITAL MANAGEMENT THROUGH EPSTEIN AND MAKES THIS THROUGH EPSTEIN AND MAKES THIS CONNECTION AND THEN BUYS THE CONNECTION AND THEN BUYS THE WHOLE THING A NUMBER OF YEARS WHOLE THING A NUMBER OF YEARS LATER. LATER. IT REALLY HELPS INCREASE THE IT REALLY HELPS INCREASE THE SUCCESS OF THAT BUSINESS. SUCCESS OF THAT BUSINESS. IT GROWS THE AUM BY A WIDE IT GROWS THE AUM BY A WIDE MARGIN AND MAKES STALEY AND MARGIN AND MAKES STALEY AND DUBIN BOTH SORT OF BUSINESS DUBIN BOTH SORT OF BUSINESS HEROES. HEROES. STALEY IS SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS STALEY IS SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS HELP THAT HE ACTUALLY VISITS HELP THAT HE ACTUALLY VISITS EPSTEIN DURING 2008 OR 2009 AT EPSTEIN DURING 2008 OR 2009 AT THIS TIME AS YOU SAID WHEN HE IS THIS TIME AS YOU SAID WHEN HE IS INCARCERATED AND HE’S WORKING INCARCERATED AND HE’S WORKING OUT OF AN OFFICE IN PALM BEACH. OUT OF AN OFFICE IN PALM BEACH.>>AMAZING.>>AMAZING. BILL, IN YOUR PIECE YOU DESCRIBE BILL, IN YOUR PIECE YOU DESCRIBE AN INTERACTION BETWEEN EPSTEIN AN INTERACTION BETWEEN EPSTEIN AND A PORTFOLIO MANAGER AT HIGH AND A PORTFOLIO MANAGER AT HIGH BRIDGE. BRIDGE. I WANT TO READ IT BECAUSE THE I WANT TO READ IT BECAUSE THE DESCRIPTION IS SO OUT OF THE DESCRIPTION IS SO OUT OF THE ORDINARY. ORDINARY. THIS IS ACCORDING TO SOMEONE WHO THIS IS ACCORDING TO SOMEONE WHO HEARD THE STORY. HEARD THE STORY. KUSNAN WENT TO EPSTEIN’S KUSNAN WENT TO EPSTEIN’S TOWNHOUSE AND WAS USHERED INTO A TOWNHOUSE AND WAS USHERED INTO A LITTLE ROOM BY A BUTLER. LITTLE ROOM BY A BUTLER. THERE HE SAW EPSTEIN SITTING THERE HE SAW EPSTEIN SITTING ATOP A RAISED PLATFORM LIKE A ATOP A RAISED PLATFORM LIKE A THRONE WITH TWO STRIKINGLY THRONE WITH TWO STRIKINGLY GORGEOUS YOUNG EASTERN EUROPEAN GORGEOUS YOUNG EASTERN EUROPEAN WOMEN STANDING BESIDE THE CHAIR. WOMEN STANDING BESIDE THE CHAIR. EPSTEIN ASKED KUSNAN A FEW EPSTEIN ASKED KUSNAN A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN QUICKLY QUESTIONS AND THEN QUICKLY DECLARED THAT HE WAS DISMISSED. DECLARED THAT HE WAS DISMISSED. THE BUTLER ESCORTED KUSNAN OUT THE BUTLER ESCORTED KUSNAN OUT OF THE MANSION. OF THE MANSION. HE WALKED BACK TO HIS OFFICE AND HE WALKED BACK TO HIS OFFICE AND SITTING ON THE FAX MACHINE WAS SITTING ON THE FAX MACHINE WAS THE SIGNED PAPERWORK FROM THE SIGNED PAPERWORK FROM EPSTEIN AGREEING TO MAKE A EPSTEIN AGREEING TO MAKE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT IN KUSNAN’S FUND. IN KUSNAN’S FUND. THIS IS NOT A NORMAL THIS IS NOT A NORMAL INTERACTION. INTERACTION. A HEDGE FUND MANAGER DOESN’T GO A HEDGE FUND MANAGER DOESN’T GO TO A WEALTHY GUY’S HOUSE AND TO A WEALTHY GUY’S HOUSE AND GREET HIM ON A THRONE SURROUNDED GREET HIM ON A THRONE SURROUNDED BY BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AND THEN BY BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AND THEN YEARS LATER WHEN THE FUND MAY YEARS LATER WHEN THE FUND MAY LOSE SOME MONEY AN INVESTOR LOSE SOME MONEY AN INVESTOR DOESN’T GET TO THEN GET ALL THE DOESN’T GET TO THEN GET ALL THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT OUT. ORIGINAL INVESTMENT OUT. WHY ON EARTH WOULD THIS SCENE WHY ON EARTH WOULD THIS SCENE HAPPEN? HAPPEN?>>I THINK IT HAPPENED,>>I THINK IT HAPPENED, STEPHANIE, BECAUSE OF GLEN DUBIN STEPHANIE, BECAUSE OF GLEN DUBIN WANTING IT TO HAPPEN. WANTING IT TO HAPPEN. BOTH JOSEPH KUSNAN WHO DID SPEND BOTH JOSEPH KUSNAN WHO DID SPEND TIME AS A PORTFOLIO MANAGER AT TIME AS A PORTFOLIO MANAGER AT HIGH BRIDGE AND DAN ZWORN WERE HIGH BRIDGE AND DAN ZWORN WERE SETTING UP THEIR OWN FUNDS SORT SETTING UP THEIR OWN FUNDS SORT OF LIKE TIGER CUB KIND OF CUBS OF LIKE TIGER CUB KIND OF CUBS FUNDS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF GLEN FUNDS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF GLEN DUBIN AND GLEN HAVING THIS DUBIN AND GLEN HAVING THIS BIG-TIME RELATIONSHIP WITH BIG-TIME RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY DUBIN, DIRECTED THEIR — JEFFREY DUBIN, DIRECTED THEIR — HIS AFFILIATES TO ESSENTIALLY HIS AFFILIATES TO ESSENTIALLY ACCEPT THIS MONEY FROM JEFFREY ACCEPT THIS MONEY FROM JEFFREY EPSTEIN NO QUESTIONS ASKED. EPSTEIN NO QUESTIONS ASKED. AND OF COURSE IN TYPICAL AND OF COURSE IN TYPICAL NOUVEAU, HEDGE FUND MANAGER WAY NOUVEAU, HEDGE FUND MANAGER WAY THEY DIDN’T ASK MANY QUESTIONS THEY DIDN’T ASK MANY QUESTIONS EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN’T ALLOWED EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN’T ALLOWED TO AND OF COURSE THEY ACCEPTED TO AND OF COURSE THEY ACCEPTED THE MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT THE MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY. OF MONEY.>>BUT WHAT WAS JEFFREY>>BUT WHAT WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S SPECIAL TALENT? EPSTEIN’S SPECIAL TALENT? THIS IS WHAT I DON’T GET. THIS IS WHAT I DON’T GET. RIGHT? RIGHT? WHY WOULD THEY ALL STAND BY HIM WHY WOULD THEY ALL STAND BY HIM AND FOR SO LONG, KATE? AND FOR SO LONG, KATE? WE GO BACK AND WE THINK BERNIE WE GO BACK AND WE THINK BERNIE MADDOFF. MADDOFF. ALL THOSE PEOPLE FLOCKED TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE FLOCKED TO MADOFF BECAUSE OF OUT SIZED MADOFF BECAUSE OF OUT SIZED RETURNS. RETURNS. TALKING ABOUT AN AMAZING TALKING ABOUT AN AMAZING INVESTOR, LOOK AT HIS RETURNS, A INVESTOR, LOOK AT HIS RETURNS, A JOHN PAULSON DURING THE SUB JOHN PAULSON DURING THE SUB PRIME. PRIME. YOU’D SAY, AH. YOU’D SAY, AH. THIS WAS THE MAGIC. THIS WAS THE MAGIC. WHERE WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S WHERE WAS JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S MAGIC THAT HAD SOME OF THE MAGIC THAT HAD SOME OF THE BIGGEST GUYS, LEON BLACK THE BIGGEST GUYS, LEON BLACK THE FOUNDER OF APOLLO, WHAT IN THE FOUNDER OF APOLLO, WHAT IN THE WORLD DOES HE NEED OR GET FROM WORLD DOES HE NEED OR GET FROM EPSTEIN? EPSTEIN?>>I THINK THERE WERE TWO>>I THINK THERE WERE TWO NARRATIVES SURROUNDING JEFFREY NARRATIVES SURROUNDING JEFFREY EPSTEIN AT LEAST UNTIL HE BECAME EPSTEIN AT LEAST UNTIL HE BECAME INFAMOUS FOR THESE OTHER INFAMOUS FOR THESE OTHER REASONS. REASONS. HE MANAGED LESLIE WEXNER’S HE MANAGED LESLIE WEXNER’S FORTUNE, FOUNDER OF L BRANDS, A FORTUNE, FOUNDER OF L BRANDS, A BILLIONAIRE DECADES AGO AT A BILLIONAIRE DECADES AGO AT A TIME WHEN THERE WERE LESS TIME WHEN THERE WERE LESS BILLIONAIRES AND HAD A FAR BILLIONAIRES AND HAD A FAR REACHING ALL ENCOMPASSING ROLE REACHING ALL ENCOMPASSING ROLE MANAGING HIS INVESTMENT MONEY, MANAGING HIS INVESTMENT MONEY, HIS PHILANTHROPY, DOING FAMILY HIS PHILANTHROPY, DOING FAMILY OFFICE TYPE DUTIES. OFFICE TYPE DUTIES. I DON’T THINK WE EVEN KNOW THE I DON’T THINK WE EVEN KNOW THE FULL EXTENT YET BUT IT WAS WIDE FULL EXTENT YET BUT IT WAS WIDE RANGING. RANGING. HE WAS KNOWN FOR THAT AND HE GOT HE WAS KNOWN FOR THAT AND HE GOT WEALTH EIGHT LEAST LARGELY IN WEALTH EIGHT LEAST LARGELY IN PART BECAUSE OF THAT. PART BECAUSE OF THAT. PEOPLE KNEW THAT. PEOPLE KNEW THAT. HE ALSO HAD A REPUTATION FOR HE ALSO HAD A REPUTATION FOR BEING SAVVY WHEN IT CAME TO TAX BEING SAVVY WHEN IT CAME TO TAX STRATEGIES AND ESTATE PLANNING. STRATEGIES AND ESTATE PLANNING. NOW, WHERE HE GOT THAT NOW, WHERE HE GOT THAT REPUTATION BEYOND WEXNER I’M NOT REPUTATION BEYOND WEXNER I’M NOT SURE BUT IT WAS ENOUGH THAT LEON SURE BUT IT WAS ENOUGH THAT LEON BLACK HIRED HIM OVER A COURSE OF BLACK HIRED HIM OVER A COURSE OF 15 OR SO YEARS ON AND OFF TO DO 15 OR SO YEARS ON AND OFF TO DO THIS WORK FOR HIM. THIS WORK FOR HIM.>>SO LEON BLACK WHO RUNS>>SO LEON BLACK WHO RUNS APOLLO, HAS DOZENS OF TAX APOLLO, HAS DOZENS OF TAX SPECIALISTS WHO WORK FOR HIM. SPECIALISTS WHO WORK FOR HIM.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>HE NEEDS JEFFREY EPSTEIN>>HE NEEDS JEFFREY EPSTEIN FORMER MATH TEACHER FROM DALTON? FORMER MATH TEACHER FROM DALTON?>>APPARENTLY.>>APPARENTLY. WHO DOES NOT HAVE A BACHELOR’S WHO DOES NOT HAVE A BACHELOR’S DEGREE. DEGREE. WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE TO WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE TO ESTABLISH THAT RELATIONSHIP, ESTABLISH THAT RELATIONSHIP, BLACK TRUSTED HIM ENOUGH THAT HE BLACK TRUSTED HIM ENOUGH THAT HE KEPT HIM ON AND OFF FOR MORE KEPT HIM ON AND OFF FOR MORE THAN A DECADE AND HE ALSO ADDED THAN A DECADE AND HE ALSO ADDED HIM AS A DIRECTOR, WHICH IS WELL HIM AS A DIRECTOR, WHICH IS WELL KNOWN AT THIS POINT, TO LEON’S KNOWN AT THIS POINT, TO LEON’S OWN FAMILY FOUNDATION BOARD OWN FAMILY FOUNDATION BOARD AROUND THE YEAR 2000. AROUND THE YEAR 2000.>>MANY OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS>>MANY OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS STAYED WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN STAYED WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN THROUGH HIS PRISON SENTENCE AND THROUGH HIS PRISON SENTENCE AND AFTER. AFTER. GLEN DUBIN IS ONE OF THEM. GLEN DUBIN IS ONE OF THEM. COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THESE COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THESE PEOPLE DIDN’T ACTUALLY KNOW THE PEOPLE DIDN’T ACTUALLY KNOW THE EXTENT OF WHAT HE HAD DONE? EXTENT OF WHAT HE HAD DONE? IF HE WENT TO JAIL FOR IF HE WENT TO JAIL FOR SOLICITING A PROSTITUTE THAT SOLICITING A PROSTITUTE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD COULD BE SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD SAY, LISTEN. SAY, LISTEN. THIS ISN’T GOOD. THIS ISN’T GOOD. IT’S NOT GREAT BUT I FORGIVE IT’S NOT GREAT BUT I FORGIVE YOU. YOU. IS THERE A CHANCE THEY DID NOT IS THERE A CHANCE THEY DID NOT KNOW THE EXTENT TO THE POSSIBLE KNOW THE EXTENT TO THE POSSIBLE WRONGDOING OR WHAT HE IS ACCUSED WRONGDOING OR WHAT HE IS ACCUSED OF NOW? OF NOW?>>LOOK, STEPHANIE, KATE, KELLY>>LOOK, STEPHANIE, KATE, KELLY IS A FABULOUS REPORTER AND I IS A FABULOUS REPORTER AND I RESPECT EVERYTHING SHE DOES. RESPECT EVERYTHING SHE DOES. I’M REALLY WONDERING FRANKLY I’M REALLY WONDERING FRANKLY WHETHER THERE’S JUST A LOT OF WHETHER THERE’S JUST A LOT OF MYTH MAKING GOING ON NOW ABOUT MYTH MAKING GOING ON NOW ABOUT JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS, YOU JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS, YOU KNOW, TAX AND ACCOUNTING KNOW, TAX AND ACCOUNTING PROWESS, HIS MONEY MANAGEMENT PROWESS, HIS MONEY MANAGEMENT PROWESS. PROWESS. I THINK THIS IS ALL A NARRATIVE I THINK THIS IS ALL A NARRATIVE BEING CREATED TO COVER UP BEING CREATED TO COVER UP SOMETHING MUCH DEEPER AND DARKER SOMETHING MUCH DEEPER AND DARKER THAT WE DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS YET, BECAUSE I’M SORRY YOU DON’T YET, BECAUSE I’M SORRY YOU DON’T GIVE SOMEBODY A MANSION ON EAST GIVE SOMEBODY A MANSION ON EAST 71st STREET THAT’S NOW 71st STREET THAT’S NOW APPARENTLY WORTH $77 MILLION APPARENTLY WORTH $77 MILLION JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE MANAGING HIS JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE MANAGING HIS MONEY. MONEY.>>WE DON’T HAVE EVIDENCE OF>>WE DON’T HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT THOUGH. THAT THOUGH. AT THIS POINT, GIFTING A MANSION AT THIS POINT, GIFTING A MANSION TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN AT THIS POINT TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN AT THIS POINT IS URBAN LEGEND. IS URBAN LEGEND. IT MAY BE TRUE BUT WE DON’T KNOW IT MAY BE TRUE BUT WE DON’T KNOW FOR SURE. FOR SURE.>>I THINK BILL MAKES A GOOD>>I THINK BILL MAKES A GOOD POINT THOUGH. POINT THOUGH. I THINK THERE WAS BLUSTER AND I THINK THERE WAS BLUSTER AND WHITE LIES PROBABLY ALSO WHITE LIES PROBABLY ALSO OUTRIGHT LIES IN TERMS OF OUTRIGHT LIES IN TERMS OF EPSTEIN AND THE WAY HE DESCRIBED EPSTEIN AND THE WAY HE DESCRIBED HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE HIS RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE BUSINESS FIGURES. BUSINESS FIGURES. I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS BS OR I THINK A LOT OF IT WAS BS OR GREATLY EXAGGERATED. GREATLY EXAGGERATED. HE DID ENTERTAIN AND HAVE PEOPLE HE DID ENTERTAIN AND HAVE PEOPLE OVER AND DID MEET PEOPLE IN OVER AND DID MEET PEOPLE IN OFFICES AND AT FUNCTIONS. OFFICES AND AT FUNCTIONS. THE INTERESTING THING WE FOUND THE INTERESTING THING WE FOUND THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT AND WE THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT AND WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE BLUSTER IN OUR STORY, THERE WERE BLUSTER IN OUR STORY, THERE WERE THESE REAL CONNECTIONS. THESE REAL CONNECTIONS. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ONLY A FEW THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ONLY A FEW BUT IT WAS ENOUGH THAT HE SORT BUT IT WAS ENOUGH THAT HE SORT OF LEVERAGED THAT INTO ACCESS TO OF LEVERAGED THAT INTO ACCESS TO PEOPLE AND BUILDING THIS PEOPLE AND BUILDING THIS REPUTATION, EVEN IF IT WAS REPUTATION, EVEN IF IT WAS LARGELY HOT AIR. LARGELY HOT AIR.>>MY GOODNESS.>>MY GOODNESS.>>I AGREE WITH KATE COMPLETELY>>I AGREE WITH KATE COMPLETELY ON THAT. ON THAT. THE QUESTION IS, WHY WAS HE ABLE THE QUESTION IS, WHY WAS HE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THESE RELATIONSHIPS TO LEVERAGE THESE RELATIONSHIPS AND FOR SO LONG AS YOU ASK,

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THAT’S ALL IN FOR THIS EVENING. RACHEL MADDOW STARTS WITH JOY RACHEL MADDOW STARTS WITH JOY REED FOR RACHEL. REED FOR RACHEL.>>GOOD EVENING.>>GOOD EVENING. HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE NIGHT. HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE NIGHT. THANKS TO YOU ALL. THANKS TO YOU ALL. RACHEL HAS THE NIGHT OFF, BUT RACHEL HAS THE NIGHT OFF, BUT WILL BE BACK TOMORROW. WILL BE BACK TOMORROW. I WANT TO START WITH THE STORY I WANT TO START WITH THE STORY OF COURTNEY WILD. OF COURTNEY WILD. SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME SHE WAS LIVING IN FLORIDA. SHE WAS LIVING IN FLORIDA. SHE WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SHE WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND CAPTAIN OF THE CHEERLEADING CAPTAIN OF THE CHEERLEADING SQUAD AND PLAYED THE TRUMPET. SQUAD AND PLAYED THE TRUMPET. HE HAD GOOD GRADES AND BRACES HE HAD GOOD GRADES AND BRACES AND WHEN SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD, AND WHEN SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD, SHE WAS INTRODUCED TO A MAN SHE WAS INTRODUCED TO A MAN NAMED JEFFREY EPSTEIN. NAMED JEFFREY EPSTEIN. HE IS AN INCREDIBLY WEALTHY HE IS AN INCREDIBLY WEALTHY MULTIMILLIONAIRE WHO SURROUNDED MULTIMILLIONAIRE WHO SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH POWERFUL HIGH HIMSELF WITH POWERFUL HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE. PROFILE PEOPLE. HIS PRIVATE AIRLINE HAS HOSTED HIS PRIVATE AIRLINE HAS HOSTED HIGH PROFILE GUESTS LIKE BILL HIGH PROFILE GUESTS LIKE BILL CLINTON, PRINCE ANDREW AND CLINTON, PRINCE ANDREW AND VARIOUS CELEBRITIES AND DONALD VARIOUS CELEBRITIES AND DONALD TRUMP DESCRIBED HIM AS A FRIEND. TRUMP DESCRIBED HIM AS A FRIEND. IN 2005, FLORIDA POLICE STARTED IN 2005, FLORIDA POLICE STARTED INVESTIGATEING AND WHAT THEY INVESTIGATEING AND WHAT THEY TURNED UP WAS HORRIFYING. TURNED UP WAS HORRIFYING. HE WAS RUNNING AN OPERATION TO HE WAS RUNNING AN OPERATION TO MOLEST AND RAPE LARGE NUMBERS OF MOLEST AND RAPE LARGE NUMBERS OF GIRLS. GIRLS. HE WAS IN HIS 50s AND MANY HE WAS IN HIS 50s AND MANY VICTIMS WERE CHILDREN. VICTIMS WERE CHILDREN. THE FBI GOT INVOLVE AND WAS ABLE THE FBI GOT INVOLVE AND WAS ABLE TO IDENTIFY DOZENS OF GIRLS WHO TO IDENTIFY DOZENS OF GIRLS WHO HAD BEEN HIS VICTIMS. HAD BEEN HIS VICTIMS. MOST WERE BETWEEN 13 AND 16 MOST WERE BETWEEN 13 AND 16 YEARS OLD. YEARS OLD. SOME PEOPLE THINK THERE COULD BE SOME PEOPLE THINK THERE COULD BE HUNDREDS OF OTHER VICTIMS OUT HUNDREDS OF OTHER VICTIMS OUT THERE. THERE. ONE OF THE ALLEGED VICTIMS WAS ONE OF THE ALLEGED VICTIMS WAS COURTNEY WILD WHO WAS 14. COURTNEY WILD WHO WAS 14. HE SAID HE SEXUALLY ABUSED HER HE SAID HE SEXUALLY ABUSED HER FOR YEARS. FOR YEARS. IT WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE “MIAMI IT WAS SPELLED OUT IN THE “MIAMI HERALD’S” HEROIC REPORTING TO HERALD’S” HEROIC REPORTING TO PREPARE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR PREPARE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR BEING A SERIAL CHILD SEX BEING A SERIAL CHILD SEX OFFENDER. OFFENDER. THE INDICTMENT THE FBI WROTE UP THE INDICTMENT THE FBI WROTE UP LISTING ALL OF THE HEINOUS LISTING ALL OF THE HEINOUS CRIMES WAS 53 PAGES LONG. CRIMES WAS 53 PAGES LONG. 53 PAGES OF STORIES LIKE 53 PAGES OF STORIES LIKE COURTNEY WILD’S. COURTNEY WILD’S. THEY ACCUSED EPSTEIN OF THEY ACCUSED EPSTEIN OF RECRUITING UNDERAGE GIRLS FOR RECRUITING UNDERAGE GIRLS FOR SEX ACROSS STATE LINES. SEX ACROSS STATE LINES. THOSE ARE FEDERAL CHARGES THAT THOSE ARE FEDERAL CHARGES THAT COULD HAVE SENT HIM TO PRISON COULD HAVE SENT HIM TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. INSTEAD A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR INSTEAD A FEDERAL PROSECUTOR NAMED ALEX ACOSTA PREVENTED NAMED ALEX ACOSTA PREVENTED JEFFREY EPSTEIN FROM BEING JEFFREY EPSTEIN FROM BEING CHARGED WITH ANY FEDERAL CRIMES CHARGED WITH ANY FEDERAL CRIMES AND FEDERAL CHARGES AGAINST AND FEDERAL CHARGES AGAINST ACCOMPLICES, TOO. ACCOMPLICES, TOO. THAT MAN IS IN THE PRESIDENT’S THAT MAN IS IN THE PRESIDENT’S CABINET. CABINET. HE IS DONALD TRUMP’S LABOR HE IS DONALD TRUMP’S LABOR SECRETARY. SECRETARY. BACK WHEN THAT FBI INVESTIGATION BACK WHEN THAT FBI INVESTIGATION WAS GOING ON, HE WAS THE U.S. WAS GOING ON, HE WAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY IN SOUTHERN FLORIDA. ATTORNEY IN SOUTHERN FLORIDA. INSTEAD OF CHANGING JEFFREY INSTEAD OF CHANGING JEFFREY EPSTEIN WITH THE 53 PAGES OF SEX EPSTEIN WITH THE 53 PAGES OF SEX CRIMES, ALEX ACCOSTOSTA MADE A D CRIMES, ALEX ACCOSTOSTA MADE A D IN A NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT IN A NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT WHICH GAVE HIM IMMUNITY FROM ALL WHICH GAVE HIM IMMUNITY FROM ALL FEDERAL CHARGES AND HE PLEAD FEDERAL CHARGES AND HE PLEAD GUILTY TO TWO STATE CHARGES FOR GUILTY TO TWO STATE CHARGES FOR PROSTITUTION AS IF THE GIRLS PROSTITUTION AS IF THE GIRLS LIKE COURTNEY WILD WERE LIKE COURTNEY WILD WERE PROSTITUTES AND NOT CHILDREN PROSTITUTES AND NOT CHILDREN BEING VICTIMIZED BY AN ACCUSED BEING VICTIMIZED BY AN ACCUSED CHILD MOLESTER THANKS TO THE CHILD MOLESTER THANKS TO THE SWEET DEAL HE GOT. SWEET DEAL HE GOT. HE GOT TO LEAVE JAIL DURING THE HE GOT TO LEAVE JAIL DURING THE DAY TO WORK IN HIS OFFICE. DAY TO WORK IN HIS OFFICE. SINCE THEN HE HAS GONE BACK TO SINCE THEN HE HAS GONE BACK TO LIVING OFF HIS MILLIONS, JET LIVING OFF HIS MILLIONS, JET SETTING ALL OVER THE WORLD. SETTING ALL OVER THE WORLD. ALEX ACOSTA AGREED TO DO HIS ALEX ACOSTA AGREED TO DO HIS DEAL IN SECRET. DEAL IN SECRET. CRIME VICTIMS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRIME VICTIMS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE TOLD WHEN THERE ARE PLEA BE TOLD WHEN THERE ARE PLEA NEGOTIATION GOING ON, BUT ALEX NEGOTIATION GOING ON, BUT ALEX ACOSTA DID NOT NOTIFY THE ACOSTA DID NOT NOTIFY THE VICTIMS BEFORE HE GRANTED HIM VICTIMS BEFORE HE GRANTED HIM THAT PLEA DEAL. THAT PLEA DEAL. EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS ASKED ACOSTA EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS ASKED ACOSTA TO KEEP THE DEAL A SECRET AND TO KEEP THE DEAL A SECRET AND ACOSTA AGREED. ACOSTA AGREED. COURTNEY WILD, ONE OF THE VICTIM COURTNEY WILD, ONE OF THE VICTIM WHO IS WAS KEPT IN THE DARK WHO IS WAS KEPT IN THE DARK ABOUT THAT DEAL, SHE SUED THE ABOUT THAT DEAL, SHE SUED THE GOVERNMENT ALLEGING THAT ALEX GOVERNMENT ALLEGING THAT ALEX ACOSTA AND HIS TEAM BROKE THE ACOSTA AND HIS TEAM BROKE THE LAW BY KEEPING SECRET FROM HER LAW BY KEEPING SECRET FROM HER AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS THE AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS THE FACT THAT THEY GAVE EPSTEIN THIS FACT THAT THEY GAVE EPSTEIN THIS NON-PROSECUTION DEAL. NON-PROSECUTION DEAL. SHE FILED THAT NAUGHT 11 YEARLAW SHE FILED THAT NAUGHT 11 YEARLAW AGO AND IT DRAGGED ON FOR OVER A AGO AND IT DRAGGED ON FOR OVER A DECADE. DECADE. SHE BRAVELY AND COURAGEOUSLY PUT SHE BRAVELY AND COURAGEOUSLY PUT HER NAME ON THE RECORD AND TOLD HER NAME ON THE RECORD AND TOLD HER STORY TO THE “MIAMI HERALD.” HER STORY TO THE “MIAMI HERALD.” COURTNEY WILD DID NOT GIVE UP COURTNEY WILD DID NOT GIVE UP AND DROP HER CASE AFTER ALL THAT AND DROP HER CASE AFTER ALL THAT TIME. TIME. EVENTUALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR A EVENTUALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR A JUDGE AGREED WITH HER, RULING JUDGE AGREED WITH HER, RULING THAT THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF THAT THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF LABOR, ALEX ACOSTA BROKE THE LAW LABOR, ALEX ACOSTA BROKE THE LAW WHEN HE AGREED TO KEEP THAT DEAL WHEN HE AGREED TO KEEP THAT DEAL A SECRET FROM HIS VICTIMS. A SECRET FROM HIS VICTIMS. AND YET STILL EVEN THEN, THERE AND YET STILL EVEN THEN, THERE WAS NO JUSTICE FOR COURTNEY WILD WAS NO JUSTICE FOR COURTNEY WILD AND HER FELLOW VICTIMS. AND HER FELLOW VICTIMS. ALEX ACOSTA STAYED LABOR ALEX ACOSTA STAYED LABOR SECRETARY. SECRETARY. JEFFREY EPSTEIN STAYED FREE. JEFFREY EPSTEIN STAYED FREE. HE COULD NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE HE COULD NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR CRIMES TOWARDS COURTNEY WILD FOR CRIMES TOWARDS COURTNEY WILD AND THE DOZENS OF OTHER WOMEN AND THE DOZENS OF OTHER WOMEN LIKE HER WITH THE LIKE HER WITH THE NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT ON THE NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT ON THE BOOKS IN FLORIDA. BOOKS IN FLORIDA. IN FLORIDA. IN FLORIDA. OVER THE WEEKEND, FEDERAL OVER THE WEEKEND, FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK CITY PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK CITY BUSTED DOWN THE DOOR OF JEFFREY BUSTED DOWN THE DOOR OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S MANSION AND ARRESTED EPSTEIN’S MANSION AND ARRESTED HIM AT THE AIRPORT AFTER HE HIM AT THE AIRPORT AFTER HE LANDED IN HIS PRIVATE JET FRESH LANDED IN HIS PRIVATE JET FRESH OFF A VACATION IN FRANCE. OFF A VACATION IN FRANCE. THIS MORNING EPSTEIN WAS THIS MORNING EPSTEIN WAS ARRAIGNED IN FEDERAL COURT ON ARRAIGNED IN FEDERAL COURT ON FEDERAL SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES FEDERAL SEX TRAFFICKING CHARGES IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK. IN THIS NEW INDICTMENT, THEY IN THIS NEW INDICTMENT, THEY ALLEGE BETWEEN 2002 AND 2005 HE ALLEGE BETWEEN 2002 AND 2005 HE ABUSED DOZENS OF UNDERAGE GIRLS ABUSED DOZENS OF UNDERAGE GIRLS IN MANHATTAN AND PALM BEACH. IN MANHATTAN AND PALM BEACH. THEY ARE PRACTICALLY A MIRROR THEY ARE PRACTICALLY A MIRROR IMAGE WRITTEN UP MORE THAN A IMAGE WRITTEN UP MORE THAN A DECADE AGO THAT WERE SHELVED BY DECADE AGO THAT WERE SHELVED BY ALEX ACCOST A. THEY COVER THE ALEX ACCOST A. THEY COVER THE SAME PERIOD. SAME PERIOD. THE SAME KINDS OF LURID SEX THE SAME KINDS OF LURID SEX CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN. THEY ARE NEW CHARGES ABOUT THEY ARE NEW CHARGES ABOUT DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS FROM THE DIFFERENT ALLEGATIONS FROM THE LAST TIME HE WAS INVESTIGATED IN LAST TIME HE WAS INVESTIGATED IN FLORIDA. FLORIDA. THE ONES COVERED BY THE THE ONES COVERED BY THE NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT WHICH NON-PROSECUTION AGREEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN PROTECTING HIM FROM HAS BEEN PROTECTING HIM FROM BEING CHARGED THERE. BEING CHARGED THERE. THAT AGREEMENT NOT TO PROSECUTE THAT AGREEMENT NOT TO PROSECUTE IS ONLY VALID IN SOUTHERN IS ONLY VALID IN SOUTHERN FLORIDA WHERE ACCOSTOSTA MADE TH FLORIDA WHERE ACCOSTOSTA MADE TH DEAL WHICH LEFT THE FIELD WIDE DEAL WHICH LEFT THE FIELD WIDE OPEN FOR PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK OPEN FOR PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION OF TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION OF THEIR OWN INTO EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT THEIR OWN INTO EPSTEIN’S CONDUCT IN NEW YORK IN THEIR BACK YARD IN NEW YORK IN THEIR BACK YARD WHICH LED TO THE BRAND-NEW WHICH LED TO THE BRAND-NEW CHARGES TODAY. CHARGES TODAY. PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK DO NOT PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK DO NOT THINK EPSTEIN SHOULD BE SET FREE THINK EPSTEIN SHOULD BE SET FREE WITH JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST. WITH JUST A SLAP ON THE WRIST. UNDER THIS NEW INDICTMENT, HE UNDER THIS NEW INDICTMENT, HE FACES 45 YEARS IN PRISON. FACES 45 YEARS IN PRISON. HE IS 66 YEARS OLD. HE IS 66 YEARS OLD. THAT MEANS IF HE IS FOUND GUILTY THAT MEANS IF HE IS FOUND GUILTY IN NEW YORK, HE COULD SPEND THE IN NEW YORK, HE COULD SPEND THE REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE BEHIND REST OF HIS NATURAL LIFE BEHIND BARS. BARS. PROSECUTORS SEEM TO THINK THEY PROSECUTORS SEEM TO THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PUT HIM HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PUT HIM THERE. THERE. THEY ANNOUNCED WHAT THEY FOUND THEY ANNOUNCED WHAT THEY FOUND WHEN THEY BUSTED THROUGH WHEN THEY BUSTED THROUGH EPSTEIN’S FRONT DOOR. EPSTEIN’S FRONT DOOR. DOCUMENTS, NOTES, MESSAGES DOCUMENTS, NOTES, MESSAGES INCLUDING NAMES AND CONTACT INCLUDING NAMES AND CONTACT INFORMATION FOR EPSTEIN’S INFORMATION FOR EPSTEIN’S ALLEGED VICTIMS AND CALL RECORDS ALLEGED VICTIMS AND CALL RECORDS CONFIRMING HIS CONTACT WITH CONFIRMING HIS CONTACT WITH THEM. THEM. WITH THE VICTIMS. WITH THE VICTIMS. PROSECUTORS SAY THAT EVIDENCE IS PROSECUTORS SAY THAT EVIDENCE IS CONSISTENT WITH VICTIM CONSISTENT WITH VICTIM RECOLLECTIONS. RECOLLECTIONS. FURTHER STRENGTHENING THE FURTHER STRENGTHENING THE EVIDENCE OF CONDUCT CHARGED IN EVIDENCE OF CONDUCT CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT. THE INDICTMENT. PROSECUTORS SAY THEY FOUND PROSECUTORS SAY THEY FOUND HUNDRED FIST NOT THOUSANDS OF HUNDRED FIST NOT THOUSANDS OF LEWD PHOTOGRAPHS OF YOUNG WOMEN LEWD PHOTOGRAPHS OF YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS WITHOUT THEIR CLOTHES AND GIRLS WITHOUT THEIR CLOTHES ON. ON. MANY OF WHOM ARE BELIEVED TO BE MANY OF WHOM ARE BELIEVED TO BE UNDERAGE. UNDERAGE. SOME OF THE PHOTOS WERE SOME OF THE PHOTOS WERE DISCOVERED IN A LOCKED SAFE. DISCOVERED IN A LOCKED SAFE. PROSECUTORS WRITING THAT THE PROSECUTORS WRITING THAT THE DEFENDANT IS NOT REFORMED. DEFENDANT IS NOT REFORMED. HE IS NOT CHASENT. HE IS NOT CHASENT. HE IS NOT REPENTANT. HE IS NOT REPENTANT. RATHER, HE IS A CONTINUING RATHER, HE IS A CONTINUING DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND AN DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND AN INDIVIDUAL WHO FACES DEVASTATING INDIVIDUAL WHO FACES DEVASTATING EVIDENCE SUPPORTING DEEPLY EVIDENCE SUPPORTING DEEPLY SERIOUS CHARGES. SERIOUS CHARGES. THAT DEVASTATING EVIDENCE THEY THAT DEVASTATING EVIDENCE THEY HAVE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN HAVE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN MUST BE A RELIEF TO A WOMAN LIKE MUST BE A RELIEF TO A WOMAN LIKE COURTNEY WILD. COURTNEY WILD. RELIEF TO THE DOZENS OR HUNDREDS RELIEF TO THE DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF VICTIMS LIKE HER WHO LOST OF VICTIMS LIKE HER WHO LOST THEIR SHOT AT JUSTICE THE FIRST THEIR SHOT AT JUSTICE THE FIRST TIME AROUND BECAUSE ALEX ACOSTA TIME AROUND BECAUSE ALEX ACOSTA TOOK THAT SHOT AWAY. TOOK THAT SHOT AWAY. IT IS POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING IT IS POTENTIALLY DEVASTATING NEWS FOR THE LABOR SECRETARY TOO NEWS FOR THE LABOR SECRETARY TOO SINCE ALEX ACOSTA GAVE THAT SINCE ALEX ACOSTA GAVE THAT SWEETHEART DEAL WHEN HE WAS U.S. SWEETHEART DEAL WHEN HE WAS U.S. ATTORNEY, HE DEFENDED HIS ATTORNEY, HE DEFENDED HIS HANDLING OF THE CASE. HANDLING OF THE CASE. WITHOUT THAT DEAL, EPSTEIN COULD WITHOUT THAT DEAL, EPSTEIN COULD HAVE GOTTEN ZERO JAIL TIME AND HAVE GOTTEN ZERO JAIL TIME AND REGISTRATION AS A SEXUAL REGISTRATION AS A SEXUAL OFFENDER AND THERE WOULD HAVE OFFENDER AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN ZERO RESTITUTION FOR THE BEEN ZERO RESTITUTION FOR THE VICTIMS AND THAT’S THE BEST HE VICTIMS AND THAT’S THE BEST HE COULD GET BASED ON THE EVIDENCE COULD GET BASED ON THE EVIDENCE HE HAD. HE HAD. WITH THIS NEW INDICTMENT, WITH THIS NEW INDICTMENT, PROSECUTORS SEEM TO CONTRADICT PROSECUTORS SEEM TO CONTRADICT THAT ASSERTION. THAT ASSERTION. ACCORDING TO THIS NEW ACCORDING TO THIS NEW INDICTMENT, THERE IS ENOUGH INDICTMENT, THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE DO YOU MEANING EVIDENCE DO YOU MEANING EPSTEIN’S CHILD SEX CRIMES TO EPSTEIN’S CHILD SEX CRIMES TO PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. HIS LIFE. ALEX ACCOSTOSTA DID NOT SEE IT T ALEX ACCOSTOSTA DID NOT SEE IT T WAY. WAY. JOINING US NOW IS JULIE BROWN, JOINING US NOW IS JULIE BROWN, THE REPORTER WHOSE INDEPTH THE REPORTER WHOSE INDEPTH REPORTING SERIES ON JEFFREY REPORTING SERIES ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN BROKE THIS STORY WIDE EPSTEIN BROKE THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND WAS CREDITED BY OPEN AND WAS CREDITED BY PROSECUTORS FOR ASSISTING IN THE PROSECUTORS FOR ASSISTING IN THE INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. SHE WAS INSIDE THE COURT TODAY. SHE WAS INSIDE THE COURT TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. HERE. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS REPORTING. REPORTING. FOR THESE YOUNG VICTIMS IT HAD FOR THESE YOUNG VICTIMS IT HAD TO BE A RELIEF TO SEE THE TO BE A RELIEF TO SEE THE BEGINNINGS OF JUSTICE. BEGINNINGS OF JUSTICE. DOES IT SURPRISE YOU THAT THE DOES IT SURPRISE YOU THAT THE CHARGES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT CHARGES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT AGAINST HIM TODAY ARE SO SIMILAR AGAINST HIM TODAY ARE SO SIMILAR TO THE CHARGES THAT HE WAS GIVEN TO THE CHARGES THAT HE WAS GIVEN A SWEET DEAL FOR BEFORE. A SWEET DEAL FOR BEFORE. HOW CAN THAT BE EXPLAINED TO THE HOW CAN THAT BE EXPLAINED TO THE ORDINARY PERSON? ORDINARY PERSON?>>HE HAD AN OPERATION GOING.>>HE HAD AN OPERATION GOING. HE HAD PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR HE HAD PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR HIM. HIM. HE HAD A SET UP OF RECRUITERS HE HAD A SET UP OF RECRUITERS ALL OVER IN NEW YORK, IN ALL OVER IN NEW YORK, IN FLORIDA, AS FAR AS WE KNOW THIS FLORIDA, AS FAR AS WE KNOW THIS WAS PROBABLY GOING ON IN THE WAS PROBABLY GOING ON IN THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS WHERE HE HAD U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS WHERE HE HAD A HOME AND IN EUROPE. A HOME AND IN EUROPE. HE HAD SCHEDULERS JUST LIKE AN HE HAD SCHEDULERS JUST LIKE AN ORGANIZED CRIME ORGANIZATION ORGANIZED CRIME ORGANIZATION OPERATES WITH A BOSS AT THE TOP OPERATES WITH A BOSS AT THE TOP AND YOU HAVE THE LIEUTENANTS AND AND YOU HAVE THE LIEUTENANTS AND CAPOS AND SOLDIERS. CAPOS AND SOLDIERS. HE HAD PILOTS AND SCHEDULERS AND HE HAD PILOTS AND SCHEDULERS AND RECRUITERS AND PEOPLE WHO HANDLE RECRUITERS AND PEOPLE WHO HANDLE HIS MONEY AND PAID THE GIRLS. HIS MONEY AND PAID THE GIRLS. PEOPLE WHO DROVE THE GIRLS BACK PEOPLE WHO DROVE THE GIRLS BACK AND FORTH. AND FORTH. HE HAD A SCHEDULE WHERE TWO, HE HAD A SCHEDULE WHERE TWO, THREE OF THEM WOULD COME EVERY THREE OF THEM WOULD COME EVERY DAY. DAY. IT WOULDN’T BE SURPRISING THAT IT WOULDN’T BE SURPRISING THAT SINCE HE HAD THE SAME SINCE HE HAD THE SAME ORGANIZATION IN PLACE THAT THAT ORGANIZATION IN PLACE THAT THAT SAME OPERATION EXISTED IN NEW SAME OPERATION EXISTED IN NEW YORK AS WELL AS IN FLORIDA. YORK AS WELL AS IN FLORIDA.>>HOW PUBLICLY KNOWN — AMONG>>HOW PUBLICLY KNOWN — AMONG THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW JEFFREY THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WAS THIS SOMETHING EPSTEIN, WAS THIS SOMETHING KNOWN THAT HE WAS DOING OR WAS KNOWN THAT HE WAS DOING OR WAS IT A SECRET OPERATION WHERE THE IT A SECRET OPERATION WHERE THE EMPLOYEES KNEW, BUT OUTSIDE OF EMPLOYEES KNEW, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, NO ONE THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, NO ONE KNEW? KNEW?>>WELL, THERE WERE PEOPLE>>WELL, THERE WERE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE OPERATION THAT OUTSIDE THE OPERATION THAT PROBABLY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING, PROBABLY KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING, WHETHER THEY PARTICIPATED IN IT WHETHER THEY PARTICIPATED IN IT OR JUST KNEW ABOUT IT AND LOOKED OR JUST KNEW ABOUT IT AND LOOKED THE OTHER WAY, WE DON’T KNOW. THE OTHER WAY, WE DON’T KNOW. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAD TO KNOW WHAT HE WAS THAT HAD TO KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING. DOING. IT WAS TOO PERVASIVE FOR THEM IT WAS TOO PERVASIVE FOR THEM NOT TO KNOW. NOT TO KNOW.>>HOW WAS IT THAT HE WAS>>HOW WAS IT THAT HE WAS SENTENCE AND GOT THIS DEAL, THE SENTENCE AND GOT THIS DEAL, THE IDEA THAT HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE IDEA THAT HE WAS ALLOWED TO BE OUT OF JAIL ON A WORK RELEASE OUT OF JAIL ON A WORK RELEASE AND HE WAS BARELY PUNISHED AT AND HE WAS BARELY PUNISHED AT ALL AND THE GIRLS WERE ALL AND THE GIRLS WERE CLASSIFIED AND WHEN HE WAS CLASSIFIED AND WHEN HE WAS CONVICTED OF WAS PROSTITUTION. CONVICTED OF WAS PROSTITUTION.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. THEY TREATED THESE GIRLS LIKE THEY TREATED THESE GIRLS LIKE THEY WERE PROSTITUTES EVEN THEY WERE PROSTITUTES EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE UNDERAGE. THOUGH THEY WERE UNDERAGE. THAT’S ONE OF THE EXCUSES FOR THAT’S ONE OF THE EXCUSES FOR NOT CHARGING HIM WITH MORE NOT CHARGING HIM WITH MORE SERIOUS CRIMES BECAUSE THEY SERIOUS CRIMES BECAUSE THEY ACCEPTED MONEY. ACCEPTED MONEY. IT WAS THEIR FAULT IN THEIR IT WAS THEIR FAULT IN THEIR MINDS THAT THESE GIRLS CAME FROM MINDS THAT THESE GIRLS CAME FROM VULNERABLE FAMILIES AND BROKEN VULNERABLE FAMILIES AND BROKEN HOMES AND SOME WERE PRETTY MUCH HOMES AND SOME WERE PRETTY MUCH HOMELESS. HOMELESS. THEY DIDN’T TAKE THESE GIRLS THEY DIDN’T TAKE THESE GIRLS SERIOUSLY WHICH IN HINDSIGHT SERIOUSLY WHICH IN HINDSIGHT THEY SHOULD HAVE. THEY SHOULD HAVE. A COUPLE OF THEM TOOK THEM TO A COUPLE OF THEM TOOK THEM TO COURT AND HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR COURT AND HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS FOR 10 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN THIS FOR 10 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN PERSISTENT IN FIGHTING FOR PERSISTENT IN FIGHTING FOR JUSTICE. JUSTICE.>>HOW WELL DID HE KNOW DONALD>>HOW WELL DID HE KNOW DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. WHEN HE CALLS HIM A FRIEND, IS WHEN HE CALLS HIM A FRIEND, IS THAT A REFLECTION? THAT A REFLECTION?>>I THINK THEY WERE FRIENDS,>>I THINK THEY WERE FRIENDS, BUT I DON’T KNOW IF THEY STILL BUT I DON’T KNOW IF THEY STILL ARE. ARE. HE FLEW ON JEFFREY’S PLANE AND HE FLEW ON JEFFREY’S PLANE AND JEFFREY AT TIME BELONGED TO MAR JEFFREY AT TIME BELONGED TO MAR A LAGO. A LAGO. TRUMP KICKED HIM OUT BECAUSE HE TRUMP KICKED HIM OUT BECAUSE HE HIT ON ONE OF THE MEMBERS’ HIT ON ONE OF THE MEMBERS’ YOUNGER DAUGHTERS. YOUNGER DAUGHTERS. I DON’T KNOW HOW FRIENDLY THEY I DON’T KNOW HOW FRIENDLY THEY ARE ANY LONGER, BUT THEY WERE IN ARE ANY LONGER, BUT THEY WERE IN THE SAME SOCIAL CIRCLE. THE SAME SOCIAL CIRCLE.>>HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO>>HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO INTERVIEW OR TALK TO PEOPLE WHO INTERVIEW OR TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT THE WAY HE HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT THE WAY HE ENDED THIS CASE? ENDED THIS CASE?>>JEFF SLOWMAN WAS WHO WAS>>JEFF SLOWMAN WAS WHO WAS DEPUTY HAS BEEN VOCAL IN THE DEPUTY HAS BEEN VOCAL IN THE SUPPORT OF MR. ACOSTA. SUPPORT OF MR. ACOSTA. HE AGREES THAT A.M.LEX FACED A L HE AGREES THAT A.M.LEX FACED A L OF PUSH BACK BY EPSTEIN’S OF PUSH BACK BY EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS AND IN THEIR VIEW, THE ATTORNEYS AND IN THEIR VIEW, THE GIRLS AT THE TIME WERE RELUCTANT GIRLS AT THE TIME WERE RELUCTANT TO GO TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY WERE TO GO TO TRIAL BECAUSE THEY WERE SCARED. SCARED. THEY WERE VERY YOUNG AT 13 OR 14 THEY WERE VERY YOUNG AT 13 OR 14 YEARS OLD. YEARS OLD. BUT HERE’S WHAT I ALWAYS POINT BUT HERE’S WHAT I ALWAYS POINT OUT TO PEOPLE. OUT TO PEOPLE. IF THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD DEAL, IF IF THIS WAS SUCH A GOOD DEAL, IF THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THIS WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, WHY DID YOU SEAL IT AND KEEP IT WHY DID YOU SEAL IT AND KEEP IT SECRET? SECRET? I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYBODY I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY ANYBODY HASN’T FORCED HIM TO ANSWER THAT HASN’T FORCED HIM TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. THEY SAY WELL, THE GIRLS DIDN’T THEY SAY WELL, THE GIRLS DIDN’T WANT TO COOPERATE AND THEIR WANT TO COOPERATE AND THEIR STORIES WERE DIFFERENT OR THERE STORIES WERE DIFFERENT OR THERE ARE OTHER REASONS. ARE OTHER REASONS. BUT OKAY. BUT OKAY. THEN WHY DID YOU SEAL IT AND THEN WHY DID YOU SEAL IT AND MAKE THEM FIGHT FOR ALMOST A MAKE THEM FIGHT FOR ALMOST A YEAR, THE GOVERNMENT FOUGHT THEM YEAR, THE GOVERNMENT FOUGHT THEM AND WOULDN’T EVEN GIVE THEM THE AND WOULDN’T EVEN GIVE THEM THE AGREEMENT. AGREEMENT. IT’S BAFFLING THAT THEY COULD IT’S BAFFLING THAT THEY COULD JUSTIFY THIS BY SAYING ALL THESE JUSTIFY THIS BY SAYING ALL THESE REASONS, BUT IN REALITY THE REASONS, BUT IN REALITY THE REASON IS THEY KEPT IT FROM REASON IS THEY KEPT IT FROM THEM. THEM.>>IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO>>IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO ASK HIM THOSE QUESTIONS.

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well-known philanthropist and crony of celebrities Nobel laureates and presidents alike Jeffrey Epstein has been charged with sex trafficking girls as young as 14 according to the indictment the hedge fund manager intentionally sought out minors for sexual exploitation and knew that many of his victims were under the age of 18 but this is not the first encounter Jeffrey Epstein has had with the sex crimes unit in 2005 the Palm Beach Police Department later joined by the FBI investigated Epstein after a woman claimed her stepdaughter was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein at the time Epstein's legal team included Kenneth Starr who was the special counsel on the four-year investigation that led to Bill Clinton's impeachment and Alan Dershowitz who served on a Jay Simpsons defense team in 1995 the legal team negotiated with the US Attorney of southern Florida Alex Acosta granting a non-prosecution agreement for Epstein and others involved in exchange Epstein registered as a sex offender and was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution which resulted in a 13 month jail sentence where Epstein spent 16 hours a day outside of prison at his nearby office Acosta who has since gone on to become US Secretary of Labor under President Trump has come under intense scrutiny for the non-prosecution deal which has been called the deal of a lifetime Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein have a history together as well having known each other since the early 1990s the New York Times reports that Trump hosted Epstein for a private party in 1992 that included dozens of women brought in tomorrow Lago to entertain just Trump and Epstein Trump claims that he and Epstein had a falling out and haven't spoken in 15 years federal prosecutors are now urging other possible victims to contact the FBI

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I got a call this morning early from Alex and I think he did a very good job yesterday under a lot of pressure he did a fantastic job and he explained it he made a deal that people were happy with and then 12 years later they're not happy with it you'll have to figure all of that out but the fact is he has been a fantastic Secretary of Labor and Alex called me this morning and he wanted to see me and I actually said well we have to press right out here so perhaps you just want to say it to the press but I just want to let you know this was him not me because I'm with them he was a he's a tremendous talent he's a Hispanic man he went to Harvard a great student and in so many ways I just hate what he's saying now because we're gonna miss him but please Ellen Thank You mr. president over the last week I've seen a lot of coverage of the Department of Labor and what I have not seen is incredible job creation that we've seen in this economy more than five million jobs I haven't seen that workplace injuries are down bucking it through your trend workplace fatalities are down a three-year trend that we had the safest year ever in mining the lowest number of fatalities ever in mining I have seen coverage of this case that is over 12 years old that has input and bedding at multiple levels of Department of Justice and as I look forward I do not think it is right and fair for this administration's labor department to have Epstein as the focus rather than the incredible economy that we have today and so I called the president this morning I told him that I thought the right thing was to step aside you know cabinet positions are temporary crust it would be selfish for me to stay in this position and continue talking about a case of 12 years old rather than about the amazing economy we have right now and so I submitted my resignation to the president affected seven days from today effective one week from today earlier this morning hey there I'm Chris Hayes from MSNBC thanks for watching MSNBC on YouTube if you want to keep up to date with the videos we're putting out you can click subscribe just below me or click over on this list to see lots of other great videos