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ON GUNS AND ELIZABETH, A COUPLE OF THE CANDIDATES FORCALLING FOR OF THE CANDIDATES FORCALLING FOR THE IMPEACHMENT OF A SUPREME THE IMPEACHMENT OF A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE. COURT JUSTICE. WOOL GET WOOL GET WE’LL GET TO THAT. WE’LL GET TO THAT.>>>BUT WE WANT TO TURN TO IRAN>>>BUT WE WANT TO TURN TO IRAN WHICH IS DENYING THE ACCUSATION WHICH IS DENYING THE ACCUSATION THAT WAS BEHIND A SERIES OF THAT WAS BEHIND A SERIES OF DRONE ATTACKS IN SAUDI ARABIA. DRONE ATTACKS IN SAUDI ARABIA. THOSE EARLY MORNING SATURDAY THOSE EARLY MORNING SATURDAY ATTACKS TARGETED A MAJOR OIL ATTACKS TARGETED A MAJOR OIL FIELD OPERATED BY SAUDI IRANCO FIELD OPERATED BY SAUDI IRANCO AND CUT COMPANY’S LIQUID NATURAL AND CUT COMPANY’S LIQUID NATURAL GASE AND ETHANE PRODUCTION. GASE AND ETHANE PRODUCTION. OIL PRICES HAVE SPIKED NEARLY OIL PRICES HAVE SPIKED NEARLY 15% IN THE AFTERMATH AND HEATING 15% IN THE AFTERMATH AND HEATING OIL FEATURES HAVE BOTH JUMPED OIL FEATURES HAVE BOTH JUMPED SIGNIFICANTLY. SIGNIFICANTLY. YEMEN’S HOUTHI REBELS WHICH ARE YEMEN’S HOUTHI REBELS WHICH ARE BACKED BY IRAN HAVE CLAIMED BACKED BY IRAN HAVE CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY SAID IN RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY SAID IN A SHORT ADDRESS ON A SATELLITE A SHORT ADDRESS ON A SATELLITE NEWS CHANNEL THAT THE ATTACKS NEWS CHANNEL THAT THE ATTACKS ARE RELATED TO THE SAUDI-LED WAR ARE RELATED TO THE SAUDI-LED WAR IN YEMEN WHICH HAS LED TO A IN YEMEN WHICH HAS LED TO A CATASTROPHIC FAMINE AND CATASTROPHIC FAMINE AND HUMANITARIAN CRISIS AND LEFT HUMANITARIAN CRISIS AND LEFT ALMOST 100,000 PEOPLE DEAD, ALMOST 100,000 PEOPLE DEAD, INCLUDING SCORES OF CIVILIANS. INCLUDING SCORES OF CIVILIANS. HOWEVER, SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE HOWEVER, SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO TWEETED THAT IRAN IS POMPEO TWEETED THAT IRAN IS DIRECTLY TO BLAME AND, QUOTE DIRECTLY TO BLAME AND, QUOTE THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THE ATTACKS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THE ATTACKS CAME FROM YEMEN. CAME FROM YEMEN. AND A SENIOR U.S. OFFICIAL TELLS AND A SENIOR U.S. OFFICIAL TELLS NBC NEWS THAT THE ATTACKS CAME NBC NEWS THAT THE ATTACKS CAME FROM THE DIRECTION OF IRAN. FROM THE DIRECTION OF IRAN. NOW, THE PRESIDENT TOOK TO NOW, THE PRESIDENT TOOK TO TWITTER TO RESPOND TO THE TWITTER TO RESPOND TO THE WEEKEND’S ATTACKS WRITING IN WEEKEND’S ATTACKS WRITING IN PART, QUOTE, SAUDI ARABIA OIL PART, QUOTE, SAUDI ARABIA OIL SUPPLY WAS ATTACKED. SUPPLY WAS ATTACKED. THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE KNOW THE CULPRIT. WE KNOW THE CULPRIT. ARE LOCKED AND LOADED DEPENDING ARE LOCKED AND LOADED DEPENDING ON VERIFICATION, HOWEVER, THE ON VERIFICATION, HOWEVER, THE PRESIDENT THEN CONTINUES, PRESIDENT THEN CONTINUES, WRITING THE ADMINISTRATION IS, WRITING THE ADMINISTRATION IS, QUOTE, WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE QUOTE, WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE KINGDOM AS TO WHO THEY BELIEVE KINGDOM AS TO WHO THEY BELIEVE WAS THE CAUSE OF THIS ATTACK AND WAS THE CAUSE OF THIS ATTACK AND UNDER WHAT TERMS WE SHOULD — WE UNDER WHAT TERMS WE SHOULD — WE WOULD PROCEED. WOULD PROCEED.>>THAT IS BIZARRE.>>THAT IS BIZARRE.>>WHAT?>>WHAT?>>THAT HE –>>THAT HE –>>HE’S WAITING FOR WORD FROM –>>HE’S WAITING FOR WORD FROM –>>HE NEEDS WORD FROM SOMEONE –>>HE NEEDS WORD FROM SOMEONE –>>MBS.>>MBS.>>A DICTATOR.>>A DICTATOR.>>TO DETERMINE WHETHER>>TO DETERMINE WHETHER AMERICANS ARE GOING TO GO FIGHT AMERICANS ARE GOING TO GO FIGHT AND POSSIBLY DIE IN ANOTHER AND POSSIBLY DIE IN ANOTHER MIDDLE EAST WAR. MIDDLE EAST WAR.>>THAT’S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING>>THAT’S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. YOU NEED TO KNOW. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PREVIOUSLY PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS PREVIOUSLY USED THE LOCKED AND LOAD THREAT USED THE LOCKED AND LOAD THREAT AGAINST NORTH KOREA AND USED AGAINST NORTH KOREA AND USED NEARLY IDENTICAL LANGUAGE AIMED NEARLY IDENTICAL LANGUAGE AIMED AT RAURN EARLIER THIS SUMMER. AT RAURN EARLIER THIS SUMMER. WOI. WOI.>>RICHARD HAASS, WHEN NEWS>>RICHARD HAASS, WHEN NEWS BROKE FRIDAY NIGHT, EARLY BROKE FRIDAY NIGHT, EARLY SATURDAY MORNING, I THINK I GOT SATURDAY MORNING, I THINK I GOT A BREAKING NEWS ALERT FROM BBC. A BREAKING NEWS ALERT FROM BBC. AND MY FIRST REACTION WAS IN THE AND MY FIRST REACTION WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LOOKING AT MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT LOOKING AT THIS, OH, WAIT, THE RED SOX LOST THIS, OH, WAIT, THE RED SOX LOST AND THIS HAPPENED. AND THIS HAPPENED. AS I WAS CHECKING MY AS I WAS CHECKING MY NOTIFICATIONS. NOTIFICATIONS. MY QUESTION WAS, DOES YEMEN MY QUESTION WAS, DOES YEMEN REALLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO REALLY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO STRIKE THE SAUDIS TWO MOST STRIKE THE SAUDIS TWO MOST IMPORTANT OIL FACILITIES FROM IMPORTANT OIL FACILITIES FROM THAT DISTANCE? THAT DISTANCE? I — FIRST OF ALL, I FIND THAT I — FIRST OF ALL, I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE. HARD TO BELIEVE. AT THE SAME TIME, RICHARD, GIVE AT THE SAME TIME, RICHARD, GIVE US YOUR INSIGHTS. US YOUR INSIGHTS. WOULD IRAN BE SO BRAZE SNEN WOULD IRAN BE SO BRAZE SNEN WOULD WOULD BRAZEN? BRAZEN? WOULD THEY BE SO RECKLESS TO WOULD THEY BE SO RECKLESS TO ACTUALLY LAUNCH ATTACKS ON THESE ACTUALLY LAUNCH ATTACKS ON THESE REFINERIES? REFINERIES? KNOWING THAT THEY COULD EXPECT KNOWING THAT THEY COULD EXPECT THE NAME IS RETURN IF THEY DID? THE NAME IS RETURN IF THEY DID?>>JOE, THE FOG OF WAR IS>>JOE, THE FOG OF WAR IS PARTICULARLY THICK THIS MORNING. PARTICULARLY THICK THIS MORNING.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>THIS THE HOUTHIS HAVE CERTAIN>>THIS THE HOUTHIS HAVE CERTAIN CAPABILITY LARGELY SUPPLIED BY CAPABILITY LARGELY SUPPLIED BY IRAN. IRAN. ONE WAY TO THINK OF THIS IS THIS ONE WAY TO THINK OF THIS IS THIS COULD BE REVENGE AGAINST SAUDI COULD BE REVENGE AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA BECAUSE OF ITS POLICY IN ARABIA BECAUSE OF ITS POLICY IN YEMEN, IT’S HIGH-LEVEL BOMBING YEMEN, IT’S HIGH-LEVEL BOMBING THAT’S CAUSED ALL SORTS OF THAT’S CAUSED ALL SORTS OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, YEARS OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, YEARS OF SALE OF WAR SALE OF WAR CIVIL WAR THERE. CIVIL WAR THERE. THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN THE UNITED STATES HAS BEEN CARRYING OUT ECONOMIC WARFARE CARRYING OUT ECONOMIC WARFARE AGAINST RAURN ANDIRAN RETALIATIN AGAINST RAURN ANDIRAN RETALIATIN AND IRAN USUALLY DOES IT BEHIND AND IRAN USUALLY DOES IT BEHIND SOME MILITIA, THEY HIDE THEIR SOME MILITIA, THEY HIDE THEIR HAND. HAND. RIGHT NOW I’VE SEEN REPORTS THIS RIGHT NOW I’VE SEEN REPORTS THIS COULD BE DRONES, CRUISE MISSILES COULD BE DRONES, CRUISE MISSILES OR BALLISTIC MISSILES. OR BALLISTIC MISSILES. I’VE SEEN THE IDEA IT COULD HAVE I’VE SEEN THE IDEA IT COULD HAVE COME OUT OF YEMEN, IRAQ OR IRAN COME OUT OF YEMEN, IRAQ OR IRAN ITSELF. ITSELF. SO IT’S UNCLEAR. SO IT’S UNCLEAR. AND THE ADMINISTRATION HASN’T AND THE ADMINISTRATION HASN’T HELPED BECAUSE THEIR COMMENTS HELPED BECAUSE THEIR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE. HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE. THEY TALK ABOUT WE KNOW THE THEY TALK ABOUT WE KNOW THE CULPRIT, THE SECRETARY OF STATE CULPRIT, THE SECRETARY OF STATE BLAMES IRAN. BLAMES IRAN. MY OWN SENSE IS IRAN LIKELY HAD MY OWN SENSE IS IRAN LIKELY HAD A ROLE BUT EXACTLY WHAT IS A ROLE BUT EXACTLY WHAT IS UNCLEAR. UNCLEAR. THEY SEEM TO BE QUITE FORWARD ON THEY SEEM TO BE QUITE FORWARD ON THEIR SKIS. THEIR SKIS. THE COMMENT YOU REFERRED TO THIS THE COMMENT YOU REFERRED TO THIS DEFERENCE TO SAUDI ARABIA IS DEFERENCE TO SAUDI ARABIA IS BIZARRE TO SAY THE LEAST. BIZARRE TO SAY THE LEAST. AND THEN OUR OPTIONS RUNS WEONCE AND THEN OUR OPTIONS RUNS WEONCE LEARN ABOUT IT AREN’T GREAT. LEARN ABOUT IT AREN’T GREAT. IF IT’S YEMEN DRIVEN, WE DON’T IF IT’S YEMEN DRIVEN, WE DON’T WANT TO GET ANYMORE INVOLVED IN WANT TO GET ANYMORE INVOLVED IN THE CIVIL WAR. THE CIVIL WAR. WE WANT TO DIAL IT DOWN. WE WANT TO DIAL IT DOWN. IF IRAN’S INVOLVED WE’RE ALREADY IF IRAN’S INVOLVED WE’RE ALREADY CARRYING OUT ECONOMIC WARFARE SO CARRYING OUT ECONOMIC WARFARE SO WHAT’S LEFT? WHAT’S LEFT? IF WE RETALIATE MILITARILY, IF WE RETALIATE MILITARILY, NOBODY THINKS IT WOULD STOP NOBODY THINKS IT WOULD STOP THERE. THERE.>>RICHARD, THOUGH, BUT HOW>>RICHARD, THOUGH, BUT HOW RECKLESS THAT YOU HAVE THE RECKLESS THAT YOU HAVE THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE PRESIDENT BOOTHTH BLAMING IRAN A PRESIDENT BOOTHTH BLAMING IRAN A THE PRESIDENT SAYING WE’RE THE PRESIDENT SAYING WE’RE LOCKED AND LOADED AND IF WE GET LOCKED AND LOADED AND IF WE GET CONFIRMATION FROM SAUDI ARABIA CONFIRMATION FROM SAUDI ARABIA THEY SEEM TO SUGGEST — SEEM TO THEY SEEM TO SUGGEST — SEEM TO SUGGEST THEY’RE GOING TO THEN SUGGEST THEY’RE GOING TO THEN STRIKE IRAN. STRIKE IRAN. I JUST WONDER IF THIS — LIKE I JUST WONDER IF THIS — LIKE YOU SAID, THERE’S THE FOG OF WAR YOU SAID, THERE’S THE FOG OF WAR AND I WONDER IF YOU LOOK THROUGH AND I WONDER IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE FOG IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE THE THE FOG IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE THE BAY OF CONK AND IF SOMETHING BAY OF CONK AND IF SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS FROM THIS. ACTUALLY HAPPENS FROM THIS. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY’RE LOOKING IT LOOKS LIKE THEY’RE LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE TO GO TO WAR WITH FOR AN EXCUSE TO GO TO WAR WITH IRAN. IRAN.>>SOME MAY BE, BUT ON THE OTHER>>SOME MAY BE, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND THE ENTIRE TRUMP PRESIDENCY HAND THE ENTIRE TRUMP PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN PREMISED ON THE IDEA OF HAS BEEN PREMISED ON THE IDEA OF WINDING DOWN WARS. WINDING DOWN WARS. HE USES THE PHRASE FIRE AND HE USES THE PHRASE FIRE AND FURRY, LOCKED AND LOADED, BUT FURRY, LOCKED AND LOADED, BUT THE LAST I CHECKED, OTHER THAN THE LAST I CHECKED, OTHER THAN SHOOTING A COUPLE OF CRUISE SHOOTING A COUPLE OF CRUISE MISSILES IN SYRIA, WE HAVE NOT MISSILES IN SYRIA, WE HAVE NOT USED MILITARY ACTION. USED MILITARY ACTION. IF WE WERE TO USE MILITARY FORCE IF WE WERE TO USE MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAN, I DON’T KNOW AGAINST IRAN, I DON’T KNOW ANYBODY IN THE BUSINESS WHO ANYBODY IN THE BUSINESS WHO THINKS THAT’S THE BEGINNING AND THINKS THAT’S THE BEGINNING AND END OF IT. END OF IT. AGAIN, YOU HAVE IRANIA MALISH AGAIN, YOU HAVE IRANIA MALISH SHAHS, IRAN ITSELF COULD DO SHAHS, IRAN ITSELF COULD DO THINGS. THINGS. THIS HAS ALLS TAKENREADY TAKEN D THIS HAS ALLS TAKENREADY TAKEN D KNOW HOW LONG. KNOW HOW LONG. YOU HAVE THE FOG OF WAR ARE TO YOU HAVE THE FOG OF WAR ARE TO BE BLUNT, YOU HAVE THE FOG OF BE BLUNT, YOU HAVE THE FOG OF AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY. AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY.>>IT’S HARD TO UNDERSTAND.>>IT’S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. TRUMP ALSO TWEETED YESTERDAY, TRUMP ALSO TWEETED YESTERDAY, QUOTE, THE FAKE NEWS IS SAYING QUOTE, THE FAKE NEWS IS SAYING THAT I’M WILLING TO MEET WITH THAT I’M WILLING TO MEET WITH IRAN, NO CONDITIONS. IRAN, NO CONDITIONS. THAT SAN INCORRECT STATEMENT? THAT SAN INCORRECT STATEMENT?>>REALLY?>>REALLY?>>>>AS USUAL.>>>>AS USUAL.>>I THOUGHT I SWORE THE>>I THOUGHT I SWORE THE PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD DO THAT PRESIDENT SAID HE WOULD DO THAT HIMSELF. HIMSELF. I WISH WHEN HE SOME VIDEOTAPE I WISH WHEN HE SOME VIDEOTAPE THAT WOULD CLARIFY THIS THAT WOULD CLARIFY THIS MISUNDERSTANDING, THIS SO-CALLED MISUNDERSTANDING, THIS SO-CALLED FAKE NEWS. FAKE NEWS.>>CUE THE MONTAGE.>>CUE THE MONTAGE.>>I WOULD CERTAINLY MEET WITH>>I WOULD CERTAINLY MEET WITH IRAN IF THEY WANTED TO MEET. IRAN IF THEY WANTED TO MEET.>>DO YOU HAVE PRECONDITIONS>>DO YOU HAVE PRECONDITIONS NOOR MEETING? NOOR MEETING?>>NO PRECONDITIONS, NO.>>NO PRECONDITIONS, NO. THEY WANT TO MEET, I’LL MEET. THEY WANT TO MEET, I’LL MEET. ANY TIME THEY WANT. ANY TIME THEY WANT. ANYTIME THEY WANT. ANYTIME THEY WANT. IT’S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GOOD IT’S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GOOD FOR THEM, GOOD FOR US, AND GOOD FOR THEM, GOOD FOR US, AND GOOD FOR THE WORLD. FOR THE WORLD. NO PRECONDITIONS. NO PRECONDITIONS. IF THEY WANT TO MEET I’LL MEET. IF THEY WANT TO MEET I’LL MEET.>>IT ONE ON ONE TALKS WITH YOU>>IT ONE ON ONE TALKS WITH YOU ANT AYATOLLAH. ANT AYATOLLAH.>>HERE’S WHAT I WANT, ANYTHING>>HERE’S WHAT I WANT, ANYTHING THAT GETS YOU TO THE RESULT, YOU THAT GETS YOU TO THE RESULT, YOU WANT TO TALK GOOD. WANT TO TALK GOOD. OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE A BAD OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE A BAD ECONOMY FOR THE NEXT THREE ECONOMY FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. YEARS.>>NO PRECONDITIONS?>>NO PRECONDITIONS?>>NOT AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED.>>NOT AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED. NO PRECONDITIONS. NO PRECONDITIONS.>>I THINK WE’VE DONE MORE>>I THINK WE’VE DONE MORE SANCTIONS ON IRAN THAN ANYBODY SANCTIONS ON IRAN THAN ANYBODY AND IT’S ABSOLUTELY WORKING. AND IT’S ABSOLUTELY WORKING. PRESIDENT HAS MADE CLEAR HE’S PRESIDENT HAS MADE CLEAR HE’S HAPPY TO TAKE A MEETING WITH NO HAPPY TO TAKE A MEETING WITH NO PRECONDITIONS. PRECONDITIONS.>>FOR CLARITY ON THIS, CAN YOU>>FOR CLARITY ON THIS, CAN YOU FOR SEE A MEETING BETWEEN FOR SEE A MEETING BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE IRANIAN LEADER LATER THIS MONTH LEADER LATER THIS MONTH SURROUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS? SURROUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS?>>SURE.>>SURE.>>WOULD THE PRESIDENT SUPPORT>>WOULD THE PRESIDENT SUPPORT THAT AND DO YOU SUPPORT THAT? THAT AND DO YOU SUPPORT THAT?>>THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE IT>>THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR, HE’S PREPARED TO VERY CLEAR, HE’S PREPARED TO MEET WITH NO PRECONDITIONS. MEET WITH NO PRECONDITIONS.>>OKAY, SO WE HEARD IT ABOUT>>OKAY, SO WE HEARD IT ABOUT SEVEN TIMES FROM THE PRESIDENT, SEVEN TIMES FROM THE PRESIDENT, AND FROM THE PRESIDENT’S AND FROM THE PRESIDENT’S SECRETARY OF STATE. SECRETARY OF STATE.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>AND FROM THE PRESIDENT’S>>AND FROM THE PRESIDENT’S TREASURY SECRETARY THAT THEY TREASURY SECRETARY THAT THEY WOULD IMMEDIATE IRAN WITH NO WOULD IMMEDIATE IRAN WITH NO PRECONDITIONS. PRECONDITIONS. LET’S PUT THAT TWEET BACK UP LET’S PUT THAT TWEET BACK UP AGAIN. AGAIN.>>LET’S SEE HERE.>>LET’S SEE HERE.>>THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE FAKE>>THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE FAKE NEWS IS SAYING THAT I’M WILLING NEWS IS SAYING THAT I’M WILLING TO MEET WITH IRAN, NO TO MEET WITH IRAN, NO CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS. THAT IS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. THAT IS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. OKAY. OKAY. SO THIS IS — I DON’T KNOW. SO THIS IS — I DON’T KNOW. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FRAGILE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE FRAGILE AND DON’T LIKE WHEN THE PRESIDENT’S DON’T LIKE WHEN THE PRESIDENT’S CALLED A LIAR. CALLED A LIAR. SO I WILL LET YOU CONCLUDE SO I WILL LET YOU CONCLUDE YOURSELF WHETHER YOU THINK THE YOURSELF WHETHER YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS A LIAR OR NOT AND PRESIDENT IS A LIAR OR NOT AND WHETHER HE USES FAKE NEWS TO WHETHER HE USES FAKE NEWS TO COVER UP HIS LIES, AS HE’S DONE COVER UP HIS LIES, AS HE’S DONE REPEATEDLY. REPEATEDLY. PRESIDENT JUST SAID IT WAS A PRESIDENT JUST SAID IT WAS A LIE. LIE.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>TO SUGGEST THAT HE WAS GOING>>TO SUGGEST THAT HE WAS GOING TO MEET WITH PRESEASONS. TO MEET WITH PRESEASONS. I WANT TO RUN THAT MONTAGE ONE I WANT TO RUN THAT MONTAGE ONE MORE TIME BECAUSE IT’S MONDAY MORE TIME BECAUSE IT’S MONDAY MORNING. MORNING. I’M A LITTLE — I’M A LITTLE –>>WE’RE SLOW.>>WE’RE SLOW.>>I’M A LITTLE FOGGY HEADED,>>I’M A LITTLE FOGGY HEADED, THE RED SOX SWEPT THIS WEEKEND THE RED SOX SWEPT THIS WEEKEND SO I GOT VERTIGO, SO MAYBE I SO I GOT VERTIGO, SO MAYBE I JUST DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THIS. JUST DIDN’T UNDERSTAND THIS. AS DENZEL WASHINGTON SAID IN AS DENZEL WASHINGTON SAID IN PHILADELPHIA, MAYBE YOU NEED TO PHILADELPHIA, MAYBE YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE I’M A EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE I’M A FOURTH GRADER. FOURTH GRADER. EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE I’M A EXPLAIN IT TO ME LIKE I’M A FOURTH GRADER. FOURTH GRADER. THE PRESIDENT SAYS IT’S FAKE — THE PRESIDENT SAYS IT’S FAKE –>>STAY WITH ME.>>STAY WITH ME.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>STAY WITH ME, Y’ALL.>>STAY WITH ME, Y’ALL.>>WE’RE ALL WITH YA.>>WE’RE ALL WITH YA.>>I’M TALK TOURING FRIENDS OUT>>I’M TALK TOURING FRIENDS OUT THERE, HEY, Y’ALL, YOU YOU STILL THERE, HEY, Y’ALL, YOU YOU STILL WITH ME? WITH ME?>>WATCH YOUR ACCENT.>>WATCH YOUR ACCENT.>>THAT’S MY ACCENT.>>THAT’S MY ACCENT. SO Y’ALL ARE YOU STILL WITH SHE? SO Y’ALL ARE YOU STILL WITH SHE? BECAUSE I’M GOING TO SHOW Y’ALL BECAUSE I’M GOING TO SHOW Y’ALL WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN THE WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN THE TWEET. TWEET. THIS WAS ON THE TWITTER. THIS WAS ON THE TWITTER. WATCH THIS. WATCH THIS. CAN Y’ALL PUT THE TWITTER UP CAN Y’ALL PUT THE TWITTER UP BEGIN. BEGIN.>>WE’LL PUT IT UP AGAIN.>>WE’LL PUT IT UP AGAIN.>>THE FAKE NEWS IS SAYING THAT>>THE FAKE NEWS IS SAYING THAT I’M WILLING TO MEET WITH IRAN NO I’M WILLING TO MEET WITH IRAN NO CONDITIONS. CONDITIONS. THIS IS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT, THIS IS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT, AS USUAL. AS USUAL.>>NEVER SAID THAT.>>NEVER SAID THAT.>>WOW, HE REALLY GOT THE FAKE>>WOW, HE REALLY GOT THE FAKE NEWS, DIDN’T HE? NEWS, DIDN’T HE? WELL, LET’S SEE IF THE PRESIDENT WELL, LET’S SEE IF THE PRESIDENT AND HIS FRIENDS EVER SAID HE WAS AND HIS FRIENDS EVER SAID HE WAS GOING TO MEET WITH IRAN WITH NO GOING TO MEET WITH IRAN WITH NO PRESEASONS. PRESEASONS. ROLL THE TAPE. ROLL THE TAPE.>>I WOULD CERTAINLY MEET WITH>>I WOULD CERTAINLY MEET WITH IRAN IF THEY WANTED TO MEET. IRAN IF THEY WANTED TO MEET.>>DO YOU HAVE PRE CONDITIONS>>DO YOU HAVE PRE CONDITIONS FOR THAT MEETING? FOR THAT MEETING?>>NO PRECONDITIONS, NO.>>NO PRECONDITIONS, NO. IF THEY WANT TO MEET, I’LL MEET. IF THEY WANT TO MEET, I’LL MEET. ANY TIME THEY WANT. ANY TIME THEY WANT. ANY TIME THEY WANT. ANY TIME THEY WANT. IT’S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GOOD IT’S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GOOD FOR THEM, GOOD FOR US AND GOOD FOR THEM, GOOD FOR US AND GOOD FOR THE WORLD. FOR THE WORLD. NO PRECONDITIONS. NO PRECONDITIONS. IF THEY WANT TO MEET I’LL MEET. IF THEY WANT TO MEET I’LL MEET.>>IS IT ONE ON ONE TALKS WITH>>IS IT ONE ON ONE TALKS WITH THE AYATOLLAH? THE AYATOLLAH?>>HERE’S WHAT I WANT.>>HERE’S WHAT I WANT. ANYTHING TO GET YOU TO THE ANYTHING TO GET YOU TO THE RESULT, YOU WANT TO TALK GOOD, RESULT, YOU WANT TO TALK GOOD, OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE A BAD OTHERWISE YOU CAN HAVE A BAD ECONOMY FOR THE NEXT THREE ECONOMY FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. YEARS.>>NO PRECONDITIONS?>>NO PRECONDITIONS?>>NOT AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED.>>NOT AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED. NO PRECONDITIONS. NO PRECONDITIONS.>>I THINK YOU’VE DONE MORE>>I THINK YOU’VE DONE MORE SANCTIONS ON IRAN THAN ANYBODY SANCTIONS ON IRAN THAN ANYBODY AND IT’S WORKING. AND IT’S WORKING. PRESIDENT IS HAPPY TO TAKE A PRESIDENT IS HAPPY TO TAKE A MEETING WITH NO PRECONDITIONS. MEETING WITH NO PRECONDITIONS.>>FOR CLARITY ON THIS, CAN YOU>>FOR CLARITY ON THIS, CAN YOU FORESEE A MEETING BETWEEN FORESEE A MEETING BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE IRANIAN LEADER LATER THIS MONTH LEADER LATER THIS MONTH SURROUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS? SURROUNDING THE UNITED NATIONS?>>SURE.>>SURE.>>WOULD THE PRESIDENT SUPPORT>>WOULD THE PRESIDENT SUPPORT THAT AND DO YOU SUPPORT THAT? THAT AND DO YOU SUPPORT THAT?>>THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE IT>>THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR, HE’S PREPARED TO VERY CLEAR, HE’S PREPARED TO MEET WITH NO PRECONDITIONS. MEET WITH NO PRECONDITIONS.>>THERE IT IS, I’M CONFUSED>>THERE IT IS, I’M CONFUSED BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO PRECONDITIONS. PRECONDITIONS. SHAN MONTH, SHAN MONTH, SHANNON, HE SAYS NO SHANNON, HE SAYS NO PRECONDITIONS, MIKE POMPEO SAYS PRECONDITIONS, MIKE POMPEO SAYS NO PRECONDITIONS, THE TREASURY NO PRECONDITIONS, THE TREASURY SECRETARY SAYING NO SECRETARY SAYING NO PRECONDITIONS. PRECONDITIONS. THE PRESIDENT SOUNDS FAIRLY THE PRESIDENT SOUNDS FAIRLY DESPERATE TO MEET WITH THE DESPERATE TO MEET WITH THE IRANIANS. IRANIANS. WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK AND WHY WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK AND WHY IS HE NOW LYING AND SAYING THAT IS HE NOW LYING AND SAYING THAT HE NEVER SAID HE WOULD MEET THE HE NEVER SAID HE WOULD MEET THE IRANIANS WITH NO PRECONDITIONS? IRANIANS WITH NO PRECONDITIONS?>>YEAH, WELL, AND IT’S KIND OF>>YEAH, WELL, AND IT’S KIND OF A CRYPTIC TWEET, I DON’T KNOW A CRYPTIC TWEET, I DON’T KNOW WHAT NO CONDITIONS IN CAPS AND WHAT NO CONDITIONS IN CAPS AND QUOTES ACTUALLY MEANS. QUOTES ACTUALLY MEANS. WE’LL ASK HIM AT DEPARTURE WE’LL ASK HIM AT DEPARTURE TODAY, WE’LL ALL BE ON THE SOUTH TODAY, WE’LL ALL BE ON THE SOUTH LAWN AND I’LL TRY TO GET AN LAWN AND I’LL TRY TO GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT HE’S THINKING. UPDATE ON WHAT HE’S THINKING. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FROM INSIDE WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FROM INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE THERE’S A LOT OF THE WHITE HOUSE THERE’S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THE UNCERTAINTY ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY ON IRAN IS PRESIDENT’S POLICY ON IRAN IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE IT SEEMS THE GOING TO BE BECAUSE IT SEEMS THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HIS PRESIDENT DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HIS NEXT STEP SHOULD BE ON IRAN. NEXT STEP SHOULD BE ON IRAN. AND IT SEEMS THAT HE IS A BIT AND IT SEEMS THAT HE IS A BIT TORN BETWEEN MACRON, WHO REALLY TORN BETWEEN MACRON, WHO REALLY SORT OF PUT THE PRESSURE ON HIM SORT OF PUT THE PRESSURE ON HIM AT THE G7 TO SIT DOWN TO TRY TO AT THE G7 TO SIT DOWN TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN, TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH IRAN, TO TRY TO GET SOME SORT OF TALKS MOVING TO GET SOME SORT OF TALKS MOVING TO GET AN IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL THAT GET AN IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL THAT THE U.S. IS INVOLVED IN BACK ON THE U.S. IS INVOLVED IN BACK ON THE TABLE. THE TABLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE’S HAD BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE’S HAD NETANYAHU WHO HE MEWES VIEWS ASV NETANYAHU WHO HE MEWES VIEWS ASV HIS CLOSEST ALLIES PUSHING HIM HIS CLOSEST ALLIES PUSHING HIM ON IRAN. ON IRAN. NETANYAHU IS FACING HIS OWN NETANYAHU IS FACING HIS OWN ISSUES BACK IN ISRAEL. ISSUES BACK IN ISRAEL. AND NOW HAVING BOLTON NO LONGER AND NOW HAVING BOLTON NO LONGER AT THE TABLE THROWS A LOT OF AT THE TABLE THROWS A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE EVERYONE CONFUSION ABOUT WHERE EVERYONE STANDS ON. STANDS ON. PY I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF PY I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T KNOW WHERE THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T KNOW WHERE WHAT HIS NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO WHAT HIS NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE. BE. THEY’RE FUMBLING AROUND TO THEY’RE FUMBLING AROUND TO FIGURE OUT WHO TO BLAME FOR THE FIGURE OUT WHO TO BLAME FOR THE SAUDI ATTACK ALTHOUGH IT’S A SAUDI ATTACK ALTHOUGH IT’S A TIME YOU SHOULD BE QUIET. TIME YOU SHOULD BE QUIET. BUT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT BUT THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT TO ENGAGE IN ANY ATTACKS BUT HE TO ENGAGE IN ANY ATTACKS BUT HE CAN’T LOOK SOFT ON RAURN AND HE CAN’T LOOK SOFT ON RAURN AND HE STILL HAS HIS BIGGEST ALLIES STILL HAS HIS BIGGEST ALLIES LIKE NETANYAHU OUT THERE LIKE NETANYAHU OUT THERE PRESSURING HIM TO TAKE SOME SORT PRESSURING HIM TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION ON IRAN AND TO NOT OF ACTION ON IRAN AND TO NOT LOOK LIKE HE IS GOING SOFT LOOK LIKE HE IS GOING SOFT THERE. THERE.>>WELL, THAT IS A GREAT POINT.>>WELL, THAT IS A GREAT POINT. JONATHAN, OBVIOUSLY NETANYAHU JONATHAN, OBVIOUSLY NETANYAHU WAS THROWING EVERYTHING AT THE WAS THROWING EVERYTHING AT THE WALL THAT HE CAN. WALL THAT HE CAN. HE’S TALKED ABOUT OCCUPYING HE’S TALKED ABOUT OCCUPYING EVERYTHING SHORT OF KANSAS CITY. EVERYTHING SHORT OF KANSAS CITY. HE DOES THESE THINGS BEFORE HE DOES THESE THINGS BEFORE ELECTIONS TRYING TO, AGAIN, ELECTIONS TRYING TO, AGAIN, TRYING TO GET AS MANY HARD-RIGHT TRYING TO GET AS MANY HARD-RIGHT VOTERS ON HIS SIDE BEFORE HE VOTERS ON HIS SIDE BEFORE HE GOES TO THE BALLOT BOX. GOES TO THE BALLOT BOX. COULD IT BE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS COULD IT BE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS SIMPLY TAKING A HARDER LINE THIS SIMPLY TAKING A HARDER LINE THIS WEEK ON IRAN BECAUSE OF THE WEEK ON IRAN BECAUSE OF THE ATTACKS BUT ALSO BECAUSE HE ATTACKS BUT ALSO BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HELP NETANYAHU WIN WANTS TO HELP NETANYAHU WIN ENOUGH VOTES TO BE ABLE TO ENOUGH VOTES TO BE ABLE TO COBBLE TOGETHER A RULING COBBLE TOGETHER A RULING COALITION IN ISRAEL? COALITION IN ISRAEL?>>NETANYAHU’S FATE IS CERTAINLY>>NETANYAHU’S FATE IS CERTAINLY VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PRESIDENT, ARGUABLY HIS CLOSEST ARGUABLY HIS CLOSEST INTERNATIONAL ALLY AND ONE HE’S INTERNATIONAL ALLY AND ONE HE’S TRIED TO BACK UP TIME AND TIME TRIED TO BACK UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AGAIN. BUT HE HADN’T REALLY FALLEN FOR BUT HE HADN’T REALLY FALLEN FOR THE IDEA OF MEETING WITH THE IDEA OF MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ROUHANI IN THE IS PRESIDENT ROUHANI IN THE IS SOMETHING WE’VE SEEN HIM PRIZE SOMETHING WE’VE SEEN HIM PRIZE THIS PERSONAL DIPLOMACY AND THIS PERSONAL DIPLOMACY AND THERE WAS REAL MOVEMENT HERE TO THERE WAS REAL MOVEMENT HERE TO TRY TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT TRY TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT RESCUE NA HAHNY RESCUE NA HAHNY ROUHANI IN NEW YORK NEXT WEEK. ROUHANI IN NEW YORK NEXT WEEK. IRANIAN NEWS SAYING THE MEETING IRANIAN NEWS SAYING THE MEETING IS OFF. IS OFF. AT THIS POINT IS THE PRESIDENT AT THIS POINT IS THE PRESIDENT EVEN ABLE TO MEET WITH ROUHANI EVEN ABLE TO MEET WITH ROUHANI IN THE U.N. AND SECONDLY WHAT IN THE U.N. AND SECONDLY WHAT SORT OF MESSAGE IS THIS SENDING, SORT OF MESSAGE IS THIS SENDING, THIS SORT OF FOG THAT WE’RE THIS SORT OF FOG THAT WE’RE GETTING CONFLICTING MESSAGES GETTING CONFLICTING MESSAGES FROM THE PRESIDENT AND HIS STAFF FROM THE PRESIDENT AND HIS STAFF AND THE SECRETARY, WHAT DO OUR AND THE SECRETARY, WHAT DO OUR ALLIES THINK BUT HOW IS THIS ALLIES THINK BUT HOW IS THIS PLAYING IN TEHRAN? PLAYING IN TEHRAN?>>I THINK THAT’S WHY HE>>I THINK THAT’S WHY HE BACKTRACKED ON THAT TWEET, WE BACKTRACKED ON THAT TWEET, WE WANT THE MEETING TOO MUCH. WANT THE MEETING TOO MUCH. IF DIPLOMACY IS NOT ON THE IF DIPLOMACY IS NOT ON THE TABLE, THEN IT LEAVES YOU WITH TABLE, THEN IT LEAVES YOU WITH MILITARY FORCE. MILITARY FORCE. AND THEY DON’T WANT US TO USE AND THEY DON’T WANT US TO USE MILITARY FORCE. MILITARY FORCE. ISRAEL ON THE EVEN OF AN ISRAEL ON THE EVEN OF AN ELECTION OR RIGHT AFTER AN ELECTION OR RIGHT AFTER AN ELECTION WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO ELECTION WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO FORM A GOVERNMENT, THEY DON’T FORM A GOVERNMENT, THEY DON’T WANT ALL SORTS OF ROCKETS WANT ALL SORTS OF ROCKETS FALLING ON NORTHERN ISRAELI FALLING ON NORTHERN ISRAELI SETTLEMENTS AND VILLEAGES AND SETTLEMENTS AND VILLEAGES AND TOWNS. TOWNS. EVERYBODY’S TALKING TOUGH, EVERYBODY’S TALKING TOUGH, NOBODY WANTS TO ACT TOUGH. NOBODY WANTS TO ACT TOUGH. WHAT THIS DOES IS IT REINFORCES WHAT THIS DOES IS IT REINFORCES THE FENCE THAT THE FENCE THAT THE OFFENSE THAT WE SHOULDN’T GO THE OFFENSE THAT WE SHOULDN’T GO TO WAR. TO WAR. WE MAKE ALL THREATS THAT WE WE MAKE ALL THREATS THAT WE DON’T ACT OPEN. DON’T ACT OPEN. ARE WE WILLING TO TALK TO RAURNI ARE WE WILLING TO TALK TO RAURNI OR NOT. OR NOT. IMAGINE YOU’RE AN AMERICAN ALLY? IMAGINE YOU’RE AN AMERICAN ALLY? YOU GET UP AND HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU GET UP AND HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DEPEND ON. WHAT YOU CAN DEPEND ON. BUT YOU’VE MADE THE CHOICE TO BUT YOU’VE MADE THE CHOICE TO DEPEND ON THE UNITED STATES. DEPEND ON THE UNITED STATES. WE’VE BECOME NOT ONLY THE MOST WE’VE BECOME NOT ONLY THE MOST DISRUPTIVE COUNTRY BUT THE MOST DISRUPTIVE COUNTRY BUT THE MOST UNPREDICTIVE. UNPREDICTIVE. YOU CAN’T BE A SUCCESSFUL GREAT YOU CAN’T BE A SUCCESSFUL GREAT POWER AND BE UNRELIABLE AND YOU POWER AND BE UNRELIABLE AND YOU PREDICTABLE AND THAT’S WHAT PREDICTABLE AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE INCREASINGLY BECOMING. WE’RE INCREASINGLY BECOMING.>>IT’S FASCINATING, MIKA, YOU>>IT’S FASCINATING, MIKA, YOU HAVE — DONALD TRUMP WAS HAVE — DONALD TRUMP WAS DESPERATE TO MEET WITH THE DESPERATE TO MEET WITH THE TALIBAN IN CAMP DAVID. TALIBAN IN CAMP DAVID. AND THEN HE LEARNED THE TALIBAN AND THEN HE LEARNED THE TALIBAN ARE BAD PEOPLE. ARE BAD PEOPLE. RIGHT? RIGHT? THEN THE PRESIDENT HAS GROWN THEN THE PRESIDENT HAS GROWN INCREASINGLY DESPERATE TO MEET INCREASINGLY DESPERATE TO MEET WITH THE IRANIANS. WITH THE IRANIANS. AND NOW HE AWAKENS TO FIND THAT AND NOW HE AWAKENS TO FIND THAT THE IRANIANS AIR DISRUPTINGRE A THE IRANIANS AIR DISRUPTINGRE A FORCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. FORCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.>>IS HE JUST DISCOVERING THIS?>>IS HE JUST DISCOVERING THIS?>>THE PRESIDENT OFDESPERATE TO>>THE PRESIDENT OFDESPERATE TO MEET WITH AND STRIKE A DEAL WITH MEET WITH AND STRIKE A DEAL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF NORTH KOREAN THE PRESIDENT OF NORTH KOREAN DESPITE THE FACT THAT KIM DESPITE THE FACT THAT KIM JONG-UN MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A JONG-UN MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A FOOL EVERY WEEK WITH HIS MISSILE FOOL EVERY WEEK WITH HIS MISSILE TESTS EVERY WEEK WHICH WILL TESTS EVERY WEEK WHICH WILL INCREASE HIS ABILITY TO STRIKE INCREASE HIS ABILITY TO STRIKE THE UNITED STATES IN A COUPLE THE UNITED STATES IN A COUPLE YEARS WITH NUCLEAR WARHEADS. YEARS WITH NUCLEAR WARHEADS. THIS FOREIGN POLICY DISTURBING THIS FOREIGN POLICY DISTURBING BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY INSULTS BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY INSULTS DEMOCRATIC ALLIES ACROSS EUROPE, DEMOCRATIC ALLIES ACROSS EUROPE, HE ALSO CONTINUES TO EMBRACE — HE ALSO CONTINUES TO EMBRACE –>>COZY UP.>>COZY UP.>>– FOR SOME REASON AND COZY>>– FOR SOME REASON AND COZY UP TO THE WORST REGIMES ACROSS UP TO THE WORST REGIMES ACROSS THE PLANET. THE PLANET.>>WE FOLLOW IT.>>WE FOLLOW IT.>>>STILL AHEAD, BARACK OBAMA>>>STILL AHEAD, BARACK OBAMA WANTED BEYONCE AND DONALD TRUMP WANTED BEYONCE AND DONALD TRUMP WANTED ELTON JOHN. WANTED ELTON JOHN.>>HE LOVED — HE HAS THIS>>HE LOVED — HE HAS THIS OBSESSION WITH ELTON JOHN LIKE OBSESSION WITH ELTON JOHN LIKE YOU USED TO VAN OBSESSION WITH YOU USED TO VAN OBSESSION WITH ANDY GIBB, I THINK. ANDY GIBB, I THINK.>>YES, SHADOW DANCING.>>YES, SHADOW DANCING. BUT THE BRITISH HIT MAKER BUT THE BRITISH HIT MAKER DECLINED TO PLAY THE PRESIDENT’S DECLINED TO PLAY THE PRESIDENT’S INAUGURATION. INAUGURATION. MAYBE THE CROWD WASN’T GOING TO MAYBE THE CROWD WASN’T GOING TO BE BIG ENOUGH. BE BIG ENOUGH.>>IT’S INTIMATE, BUT NOTHING

Pompeo Jokes About Speaking At Trump Hotel, Brushes Off Conflicts Of Interest | Hardball | MSNBC


THE AMOUNT OF INCOME HE’S TAKEN BUT REALLY THE FAMILY, THE BUT REALLY THE FAMILY, THE BUSINESS, ANYTHING IN A BUSINESS, ANYTHING IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO STOP HIM. DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO STOP HIM.>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.”>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.” THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP, WELL, JR. THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP, WELL, JR. DOWN-PLAYING CONCERNS WHETHER DOWN-PLAYING CONCERNS WHETHER HIS FATHER IS PROFITING OFF HIS HIS FATHER IS PROFITING OFF HIS PRESIDENCY. PRESIDENCY. MEANWHILE SECRETARY OF STATE MEANWHILE SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO SPOKE TODAY WHERE HE MIKE POMPEO SPOKE TODAY WHERE HE MOCKED THE REPORTING ON TRUMP’S MOCKED THE REPORTING ON TRUMP’S CONFLICT OF INTEREST. CONFLICT OF INTEREST.>>IT’S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL.>>IT’S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL HOTEL. THE GUY WHO OWNS IT MUST BE THE GUY WHO OWNS IT MUST BE SUCCESSFUL SOMEWHERE ALONG THE SUCCESSFUL SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY. WAY. THAT WAS FOR “THE WASHINGTON THAT WAS FOR “THE WASHINGTON POST” IN THE BACK. POST” IN THE BACK.>>I’M JOINED NOW BY DAVID>>I’M JOINED NOW BY DAVID FARENTHOL WHO’S DONE MOST OF THE FARENTHOL WHO’S DONE MOST OF THE REPORTING THAT THE SECRETARY OF REPORTING THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS MENTIONING THERE, AND STATE WAS MENTIONING THERE, AND HARRY FINEMAN OF COURSE ANIMUS HARRY FINEMAN OF COURSE ANIMUS NBC ANALYST. NBC ANALYST. HE MADE FUN OF YOU FOR CATCHING HE MADE FUN OF YOU FOR CATCHING THEM AT THIS AS IF IT’S A JOKE. THEM AT THIS AS IF IT’S A JOKE.>>I’M GLAD THE SECRETARY OF>>I’M GLAD THE SECRETARY OF STATE READS “THE WASHINGTON STATE READS “THE WASHINGTON POST.” POST.” WE HAD A STORY YESTERDAY SAYING WE HAD A STORY YESTERDAY SAYING MIKE PENCE, THE VICE PRESIDENT, MIKE PENCE, THE VICE PRESIDENT, AND SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO AND SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO SPOKE THIS WEEK TO EVENTS PUT ON SPOKE THIS WEEK TO EVENTS PUT ON BY A PAYING CUSTOMER OF THEIR BY A PAYING CUSTOMER OF THEIR BOSS, DONALD TRUMP. BOSS, DONALD TRUMP. PAYS TRUMP PRIVATELY, TWO PUBLIC PAYS TRUMP PRIVATELY, TWO PUBLIC OFFICIALS AFFILIATED WITH TRUMP OFFICIALS AFFILIATED WITH TRUMP SHOW UP TO BOOST THEIR EVENTS. SHOW UP TO BOOST THEIR EVENTS.>>IF YOU KNOW YOU’RE UNDER>>IF YOU KNOW YOU’RE UNDER SCRUTINY, IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING SCRUTINY, IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A MISBEHAVIOR, BUT TRUMP FOR A MISBEHAVIOR, BUT TRUMP SEEMS TO LATELY BE EXPANDING ON SEEMS TO LATELY BE EXPANDING ON IT AND SHOWING IT OFF. IT AND SHOWING IT OFF. COMING ON FOX AND FRIENDS SAYING COMING ON FOX AND FRIENDS SAYING IT’S A CHEESEBURGER — IT’S NOT IT’S A CHEESEBURGER — IT’S NOT ABOUT CHEESEBURGER. ABOUT CHEESEBURGER. IT’S ABOUT THOUSAND DOLLAR ROOMS IT’S ABOUT THOUSAND DOLLAR ROOMS ZBHCH ZBHCH . .>>FIRST OF ALL HE LOVES TO BRAG>>FIRST OF ALL HE LOVES TO BRAG ABOUT HOW HE MAKES MONEY. ABOUT HOW HE MAKES MONEY. IT’S MONEY COMING IN. IT’S MONEY COMING IN. AND ALSO IT HAS THE POLITICAL AND ALSO IT HAS THE POLITICAL EFFECT OF ALLOWING HIM TO TALK EFFECT OF ALLOWING HIM TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO EVERY ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO EVERY OTHER CATASTROPHIC OTHER CATASTROPHIC CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL AND POLITICAL EVENT HE’S GOT GOING POLITICAL EVENT HE’S GOT GOING ON ALL AROUND HIM. ON ALL AROUND HIM. HE’D RATHER TALK ABOUT THAT. HE’D RATHER TALK ABOUT THAT.>>SO IF YOU HIT MY ARMS I CAN>>SO IF YOU HIT MY ARMS I CAN TAKE IT, JUST DON’T HIT ME IN TAKE IT, JUST DON’T HIT ME IN THE FACE. THE FACE. IT’S AMAZING, THIS IS CONSIDERED IT’S AMAZING, THIS IS CONSIDERED A LESS PROBLEM FOR HIM TO BE A LESS PROBLEM FOR HIM TO BE CAUGHT MAKING MONEY OFF THE CAUGHT MAKING MONEY OFF THE PRESIDENCY THAN — PRESIDENCY THAN –>>UNTIL IT ISN’T.>>UNTIL IT ISN’T.>>WE’LL SEE.>>WE’LL SEE. PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD REPORTERS PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD REPORTERS LAST MONTH HIS TEAM HAD CHOSEN LAST MONTH HIS TEAM HAD CHOSEN HIS DURAL RESORT IN MIAMI AS THE HIS DURAL RESORT IN MIAMI AS THE SITE OF NEXT YEAR’S G-7 SUMMIT SITE OF NEXT YEAR’S G-7 SUMMIT AFTER VETTING 12 OTHER SITES. AFTER VETTING 12 OTHER SITES. KEY LINE THERE. KEY LINE THERE. LET’S WATCH. LET’S WATCH.>>MY PEOPLE LOOKED AT 12 SITES,>>MY PEOPLE LOOKED AT 12 SITES, ALL GOOD BUT SOME WERE TWO HOURS ALL GOOD BUT SOME WERE TWO HOURS FROM THE AIRPORT, SOME WERE FAR FROM THE AIRPORT, SOME WERE FAR WORSE, SOME DIDN’T ALLOW THIS OR WORSE, SOME DIDN’T ALLOW THIS OR DIDN’T ALLOW THAT. DIDN’T ALLOW THAT.>>DAVID UD, YOU TWEETED TODAY>>DAVID UD, YOU TWEETED TODAY ASKING THE PUBLIC HAS ANYONE OUT ASKING THE PUBLIC HAS ANYONE OUT THERE IN THE MEDIA, GOVERNMENT, THERE IN THE MEDIA, GOVERNMENT, HOSPITALITY ANYWHERE HEARD OF HOSPITALITY ANYWHERE HEARD OF ANY SITES VETTED BY THIS ANY SITES VETTED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION.>>WELL, I DON’T KNOW THAT.>>WELL, I DON’T KNOW THAT. I’M JUST LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE I’M JUST LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE THAT HE’S RIGHT, THAT HE’S THAT HE’S RIGHT, THAT HE’S TELLING THE TRUTH. TELLING THE TRUTH. AND SO I LOOK FOR OTHER PLACES AND SO I LOOK FOR OTHER PLACES TRUMP HAD VETTED. TRUMP HAD VETTED. I’VE BEEN CALLING ALL THE I’VE BEEN CALLING ALL THE AUTHORITIES IN STATES WHERE THEY AUTHORITIES IN STATES WHERE THEY SAY THEY VETTED. SAY THEY VETTED. AND I ONLY FOUND ONE, HAWAII, AND I ONLY FOUND ONE, HAWAII, WHERE THEY BASICALLY CALLED UP WHERE THEY BASICALLY CALLED UP AND ASKED COULD WE HAVE A AND ASKED COULD WE HAVE A CONFERENCE IN OAHU AND THAT WAS CONFERENCE IN OAHU AND THAT WAS IT. IT.>>WAS IT HIS IDEA TO GO TO>>WAS IT HIS IDEA TO GO TO MIAMI ALL AROUND? MIAMI ALL AROUND?>>THAT’S WHAT I’D LIKE TO KNOW.>>THAT’S WHAT I’D LIKE TO KNOW. WAS THERE A REAL FORMAL VETTING WAS THERE A REAL FORMAL VETTING PROCESS AND SOMEBODY ELSE SAID PROCESS AND SOMEBODY ELSE SAID YES, TRUMP DIRAL IS THE BEST OR YES, TRUMP DIRAL IS THE BEST OR SOMEONE COME OUT AND SAY THROW SOMEONE COME OUT AND SAY THROW OUT HAWAII, AND HERE’S MY OUT HAWAII, AND HERE’S MY CHOICE. CHOICE.>>WHY WOULD THE REGULAR JOE>>WHY WOULD THE REGULAR JOE ROOT FOR A GUY WHO DOES THIS, ROOT FOR A GUY WHO DOES THIS, WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE WHO TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE PRESIDENCY AND MAKES MONEY OFF PRESIDENCY AND MAKES MONEY OFF IT? IT?>>YOU AND I, CHRIS, ARE>>YOU AND I, CHRIS, ARE THINKING OF EXACTLY THE SAME THINKING OF EXACTLY THE SAME GUY. GUY. HE’S IN THE OUTER SUBURBS OF THE HE’S IN THE OUTER SUBURBS OF THE PITTSBURGH AREA, IN WESTERN PA, PITTSBURGH AREA, IN WESTERN PA, IN OHIO, MICHIGAN, IN WISCONSIN. IN OHIO, MICHIGAN, IN WISCONSIN. AS LONG AS HE’S GOT A JOB AND AS LONG AS HE’S GOT A JOB AND DOING GREAT IN THE SO-CALLED DOING GREAT IN THE SO-CALLED TRUMP ECONOMY, FINE. TRUMP ECONOMY, FINE. BUT THIS STRATEGY OF DONALD BUT THIS STRATEGY OF DONALD TRUMP’S, THIS PROPENSITY OF TRUMP’S, THIS PROPENSITY OF DONALD TRUMP CAN COME BACK AND DONALD TRUMP CAN COME BACK AND BITE HIM WITH SOME OF THOSE BITE HIM WITH SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE, THE MOMENT THAT ECONOMIC PEOPLE, THE MOMENT THAT ECONOMIC SITUATION FOR THAT PERSON TURNS SITUATION FOR THAT PERSON TURNS DOWNWARD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DOWNWARD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE UNITED MINE WORKERS ARE GETTING UNITED MINE WORKERS ARE GETTING READY TO STRIKE MAYBE AGAINST READY TO STRIKE MAYBE AGAINST GENERAL MOTORS. GENERAL MOTORS. WHAT DO THEY THINK DONALD TRUMP WHAT DO THEY THINK DONALD TRUMP IS USING HIS INFLUENCE TO SHOVEL IS USING HIS INFLUENCE TO SHOVEL IN MONEY AND THEY’RE OUT ON THE IN MONEY AND THEY’RE OUT ON THE STREET IN. STREET IN.>>MEANWHILE POLITICO IS>>MEANWHILE POLITICO IS REPORTING THE AIR FORCE HAS HAD REPORTING THE AIR FORCE HAS HAD CREWS STAY OVER AT TRUMP’S CREWS STAY OVER AT TRUMP’S RESORT IN SCOTLAND UP TO 40 RESORT IN SCOTLAND UP TO 40 TIMES IN 2015 WHICH STARTED WHEN TIMES IN 2015 WHICH STARTED WHEN OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT. OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT. BUT POLITICO NOTES THE FIGURE BUT POLITICO NOTES THE FIGURE DOES NOT INDICATE HOW MANY HAVE DOES NOT INDICATE HOW MANY HAVE STAYED SINCE TRUMP BECAME STAYED SINCE TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. IS THIS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION OF IS THIS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION OF HAVING THE AIR FORCE USE ONE OF HAVING THE AIR FORCE USE ONE OF HIS SITES? HIS SITES?>>CERTAINLY WHEN CROW SAY THAT>>CERTAINLY WHEN CROW SAY THAT ORIGINAL APPEARANCE, AIR FORCE ORIGINAL APPEARANCE, AIR FORCE CREWS STAYING AT THE PRESIDENT’S CREWS STAYING AT THE PRESIDENT’S HOTEL, IT SOUNDS BAD. HOTEL, IT SOUNDS BAD. THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT CAUSE THE ARRANGEMENTS THAT CAUSE THIS, THE AIR FORCE CREW THIS, THE AIR FORCE CREW STOPPING IN THAT AIRPORT, THAT STOPPING IN THAT AIRPORT, THAT AIRPORT DIRECTING THOSE PEOPLE AIRPORT DIRECTING THOSE PEOPLE TO THAT HOTEL — TO THAT HOTEL –>>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GROWTH?>>BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GROWTH?>>OBAMA SIGNED A CONTRACT IN>>OBAMA SIGNED A CONTRACT IN 2016 TO BRING MORE AIRCREWS 2016 TO BRING MORE AIRCREWS THERE. THERE. UNLESS WE KNOW THAT TRUMP UNLESS WE KNOW THAT TRUMP STEPPED IN TO INTERFERE, IT STEPPED IN TO INTERFERE, IT LOOKS LIKE JUST A CONTINUATION LOOKS LIKE JUST A CONTINUATION OF SOMETHING OBAMA DID. OF SOMETHING OBAMA DID.>>DO FOREIGN POWERS CHECK IN TO>>DO FOREIGN POWERS CHECK IN TO WIN HIS FAVOR? WIN HIS FAVOR?>>THEY CERTAINLY CHECK IN>>THEY CERTAINLY CHECK IN THERE. THERE. THE ONLY PERSON I’VE EVER HEARD THE ONLY PERSON I’VE EVER HEARD SAY, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS SAY YES SAY, FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS SAY YES I BOUGHT IN HERE BECAUSE I I BOUGHT IN HERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO WIN INFLUENCE, THE WANTED TO WIN INFLUENCE, THE FILIPINO AMBASSADOR YESTERDAY FILIPINO AMBASSADOR YESTERDAY AND SAYING LOOK I’M DOING THIS AND SAYING LOOK I’M DOING THIS BECAUSE TRUMP’S A FRIEND. BECAUSE TRUMP’S A FRIEND.>>IN THE CASE OF THE FILIPINOS>>IN THE CASE OF THE FILIPINOS THEY’RE PROUD. THEY’RE PROUD. IT’S LIKE DONALD TRUMP IS PROUD, IT’S LIKE DONALD TRUMP IS PROUD, THEY’RE PROUD. THEY’RE PROUD. I CAN TELL YOU HAVING HAD DINNER I CAN TELL YOU HAVING HAD DINNER AT ONE OF THOSE PLACES THEY’RE AT ONE OF THOSE PLACES THEY’RE NOT DOING IT FOR THE FOOD. NOT DOING IT FOR THE FOOD.>>I CAN SAY I’M CLEAN.

Obama EXPOSES Trump’s Hypocrisy


>>Following news that Donald Trump cancelled
a meeting with Taliban leaders at Camp David only days before 9/11. Some of his old tweets toward Barack Obama
have resurfaced for good cause. Now Trump was very critical toward Obama when
it came to negotiating with terrorists and I want to read some of those tweets to you. This was a tweet from January 13th of 2012,
Trump had tweeted, while Barack Obama is slashing the military, he’s also negotiating with our
sworn enemy, the Taliban, who facilitated 9/11. That wasn’t the only tweet there were several
of them. I’m not even gonna read all of them to you
but one other one->>Slashing the military like in an alley
and shipping them, not even including the budget part.>>Pathetic Barack Obama is sweetening his
offer to the Taliban. And then he said, read the art of the deal. Little plug for his book, so it goes on and
on. Look, what I found fascinating was the damage
control we saw from Mike Pompeo the morning after Trump had tweeted about the meeting
falling apart. And so let’s go to the first video. Here, he is speaking to Jake Tapper. And Jake Tapper asks him, what if this was
Obama?>>I can’t help but think that if a democratic
president had talked about having the Taliban come to Camp David to negotiate a peace process,
that was not already a done deal, that you, as a congressman, as a soldier, as a veteran
as a West Point graduate, that you would be rather upset.>>Yeah, Jake, you’re just wrong about that. I’ve been fully supportive of this effort,
the direction that we have taken the state department, the effort, President Trump has
given us guidance to go deliver on a something I think is important, it’s valuable. I think the timing is just right. We’ve made enormous progress. I know who the Taliban are, and I know who
Al-Qaeda is. And I’ve seen that UN report, I will tell
you that they described that Al-Qaeda leadership as being happy about the conditions Afghanistan,
well, a lot of them are in their graves. And so make no mistake about it, we will continue
to punish, we will continue to pound, we will continue to fight, we’ll continue to protect
the American people, we will never construct a deal. If I was worried about Barack Obama and President
Obama, it was because he was prepared to leave without ensuring that we can protect America,
this administration will never do that.>>So that last statement perfectly summarizes
one of the reasons why Trump is gonna stay in Afghanistan. I mean, that is the kind of influence that
surrounds him in the White House. And at the same time, come on, let’s keep
it real. We know the situation would be very different,
the response from someone like Pompeo would be very different toward Obama, if Obama were
doing the exact same thing that Trump is trying to do.>>But when you say this is the group that
surrounds Trump, it’s frankly the group that surrounds both parties.>>Yeah, definitely.>>In terms of the blob, what is sometimes
known as the blob, which is this sort of diplomatic and intelligence, and military communities
within Washington. They have the same mindset that Pompeo just
said right there, we can’t leave until we’ve secured the zone. But we have nothing to do to be able to do
that. So we’re just not gonna leave.>>So we’re just gonna punish and pound them.>>Punish and pound them.>>And using a soldier’s death as an excuse
is actually kinda offensive to the memory of that soldier because it has nothing to
do with one tragic event. It has everything to do with the foreign policy
mentality of the United States in a bipartisan fashion. And it does wrong to the memory of the soldier
to say that he was the reason or his death was the reason that we’re staying.>>Right, and Obama got elected and there
were all sorts of promises when it came to changing foreign policy, changing the course
of foreign policy in America. But in reality, Obama expanded Bush era foreign
policy. Drone strikes increased under him. Our civil liberties continued to be violated
under the Obama administration. So you’re absolutely right. And there is this notion that if you don’t
play ball with the military-industrial complex, especially if you’re a democrat, you’re weak
on national security. And when you think about that, that is a criticism
that’s perpetuated by the right-wing, and democrats just fall right into it.>>It’s cuz they’re terrified of the military-industrial
complex, that huge apparatus that you’re talking about, which is even more influential in Washington
than I think people realize. And what’s fascinating to me about how Jake
Tapper framed that question is, he started it off the exact right way. Isn’t there hypocrisy, would you not be extremely
critical if this was President Obama? But then he goes as a soldier, as a veteran,
as a West Point graduate. As if there’s something wrong with diplomacy
with the Taliban. And that’s what’s frustrating about the entire
media coverage of it. They are anti-peace, consistently, and they
are anti-diplomacy, consistently. That’s a bias you see on Fox News, MSNBC,
CNN repeatedly, they want belligerence. They were so orgasmic about when Trump dropped
that mother of all bombs in Afghanistan, and they’re silent, radio silent that Trump within
the first year I think in office already surpassed Obama in drone strikes civilian deaths in
Syria and Iraq. So this is just increasing, increasing, and
increasing. And unless we have someone who’s a radical
in the right sense in office, it’s not gonna change because the power of the presidency
in this regard has gotten completely out of control.>>And while you thought that Trump might
be someone who would reject the establishment consequences of this.>>Mm-hm.>>Because his intellectual curiosity only
extends to cable news.>>Right.>>If cable news is reinforcing what you just
said in terms of putting forward a belligerent pro-intervention, anti-peace mindset, then
that’s the feedback that he gets. The only feedback that he gets while he’s
sitting in bed.>>It is interesting though because if I recall
correctly, back when Obama was president and when he did wanna do these negotiations, and
when he was getting criticize from the right-wing for being part of these talks. Of course, Fox News criticized him, but MSNBC
was kind to him, CNN was relatively kind to him. They were a lot more in favor of working with
and negotiating with so-called terrorist under the Obama administration, but when it comes
to Trump, it’s amazing to see how those very same cable news hosts change tune, right? Where all of a sudden they’re the ones, no,
you shouldn’t be negotiating with terrorists. This is offensive, this is terrible. But you shouldn’t change your perspective
on these peace deals, depending on who the president is at that moment. And one other thing I wanted to give Trump
credit for in a weird way. There are moments where he pushes through
the pressures of the military industrial conflicts. Remember, he was about to do an air strike
on Iran, and he called it off last minute. And the reason why he called it off last minute
is because he went with his instinct and realized, okay, Pompeo’s pressuring me to do this, Bolton’s
pressuring me to do this. This is not the right way to go about it. And so luckily, that wildcard component of
Donald Trump work to our favor in that case. But yeah, he is surrounded by people, much
like democratic candidates in the past by people who want to push for perpetual war,
who want us in Afghanistan, pretend as if there’s some solution in sight when really
there isn’t.

Trump Fires National Security Adviser John Bolton | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC


OF THIS AND INFORMING SOME SOURCES THAT BOLTON IS OUT AND SOURCES THAT BOLTON IS OUT AND PEOPLE TRYING TO PROCESS THIS IN PEOPLE TRYING TO PROCESS THIS IN REAL TIME. REAL TIME. HERE’S THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT HERE’S THE IMPORTANT THING ABOUT BOLTON’S DISMISSAL. BOLTON’S DISMISSAL. IT’S THE TONE OF PRESIDENT IT’S THE TONE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DISMISSAL. TRUMP’S DISMISSAL. IT’S CLEARLY THIS IS NOT IT’S CLEARLY THIS IS NOT AMICABLE. AMICABLE. WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN HUGE WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN HUGE DIVISIONS WITHIN THE DIVISIONS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION MOST RECENTLY ADMINISTRATION MOST RECENTLY SURFACING OVER WHAT TO DO ABOUT SURFACING OVER WHAT TO DO ABOUT AFGHANISTAN MORE THAN JUST AFGHANISTAN MORE THAN JUST HOSTING THE TALIBAN AT CAMP HOSTING THE TALIBAN AT CAMP DAVID. DAVID. THIS GOT TO THE CORE OF WHAT THIS GOT TO THE CORE OF WHAT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CAM PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP CAM PAWNED ON, AND THAT IS GETTING PAWNED ON, AND THAT IS GETTING OUT OF FOREIGN WARS. OUT OF FOREIGN WARS. WE KNOW BOLTON WAS MORE FOR WE KNOW BOLTON WAS MORE FOR STAYING LONGER, POMPEO WAS ON STAYING LONGER, POMPEO WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. THIS IS A CLEAR WIN FOR MIKE THIS IS A CLEAR WIN FOR MIKE POMPEO AS HE CONTINUES TO POMPEO AS HE CONTINUES TO CONSOLIDATE POWER. CONSOLIDATE POWER. BOLTON IS THE FOURTH NATIONAL BOLTON IS THE FOURTH NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER THIS PRESIDENT SECURITY ADVISER THIS PRESIDENT HAS HAD. HAS HAD. LET ME CORRECT MYSELF AS I COUNT LET ME CORRECT MYSELF AS I COUNT THEM UP. THEM UP. HE IS THE FOURTH. HE IS THE FOURTH. IT’S AN INDICATION OF MORE IT’S AN INDICATION OF MORE RECYCLING AT THE TOP, AND ANDREA RECYCLING AT THE TOP, AND ANDREA THIS HAS LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS THIS HAS LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS FOR A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES FOR A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES THAT’S IRAN, THAT’S NORTH KOREA, THAT’S IRAN, THAT’S NORTH KOREA, THAT’S THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE THAT’S THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS, THAT’S VENEZUELA. PROCESS, THAT’S VENEZUELA. JOHN BOLTON WAS INTEGRAL IN ALL JOHN BOLTON WAS INTEGRAL IN ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THE PRESIDENT HAS OFTEN SAID HE THE PRESIDENT HAS OFTEN SAID HE LIKED BOLTON’S HAWKISH NATURE LIKED BOLTON’S HAWKISH NATURE AND HE LIKED TO HAVE THE AND HE LIKED TO HAVE THE SPECTRUM THERE TO BE MORE SPECTRUM THERE TO BE MORE BELLICOSE HIMSELF. BELLICOSE HIMSELF. BOLTON IS OUT. BOLTON IS OUT. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT JUST WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT JUST WHAT THE PROXIMATE CAUSE IS AND WHO THE PROXIMATE CAUSE IS AND WHO WILL REPLACE HIM AND WHAT IT WILL REPLACE HIM AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE DIRECTION OF THE MEANS FOR THE DIRECTION OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND FOR A WHOLE ADMINISTRATION AND FOR A WHOLE HOST OF ISSUES ACROSS THE GLOBE. HOST OF ISSUES ACROSS THE GLOBE.>>OF COURSE BOLTON ALMOST>>OF COURSE BOLTON ALMOST AUDITIONED FOR THE JOB AS A FOX AUDITIONED FOR THE JOB AS A FOX NEWS COMMENTATOR VERY VIGOROUSLY NEWS COMMENTATOR VERY VIGOROUSLY AGAINST IRAN AS IS POMPEO. AGAINST IRAN AS IS POMPEO. SO, ON THAT, THEY DID NOT SO, ON THAT, THEY DID NOT DISAGREE. DISAGREE. BUT HE HAS BEEN DRIVING A LOT OF BUT HE HAS BEEN DRIVING A LOT OF THE ACTION ON IRAN, CERTAINLY THE ACTION ON IRAN, CERTAINLY WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PRESIDENT SUGGESTING HE WOULD BE PRESIDENT SUGGESTING HE WOULD BE WILLING TO TALK TO IRANIAN WILLING TO TALK TO IRANIAN LEADERS. LEADERS. YOU’VE GOT THE UN GENERAL YOU’VE GOT THE UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY MEETINGS COMING UP IN ASSEMBLY MEETINGS COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS. TWO WEEKS. WE’RE THERE IN NEW YORK FOR THE WE’RE THERE IN NEW YORK FOR THE UN MEETINGS. UN MEETINGS. THE PRESIDENT IS GIVING A MAJOR THE PRESIDENT IS GIVING A MAJOR SPEECH ON THE 24th AT THE UNITED SPEECH ON THE 24th AT THE UNITED NATIONS. NATIONS. AND NOW HIS NATIONAL SECURITY AND NOW HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER HAS BEEN FIRED. ADVISER HAS BEEN FIRED. ONE OTHER THING ABOUT JOHN ONE OTHER THING ABOUT JOHN BOLTON I WANT TO POINT OUT AND BOLTON I WANT TO POINT OUT AND I’M GOING TO BRING IN NED PRICE I’M GOING TO BRING IN NED PRICE HERE ON THE PHONE, FORMER HERE ON THE PHONE, FORMER SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO PRESIDENT SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO PRESIDENT OBAMA. OBAMA. THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JOHN THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JOHN BOLTON AND ALL HIS PREDECESSORS BOLTON AND ALL HIS PREDECESSORS GOING BACK IN ANY ADMINISTRATION GOING BACK IN ANY ADMINISTRATION I’VE COVERED IS HE DID NOT I’VE COVERED IS HE DID NOT OVERSEE THE DEPUTIES MEETINGS. OVERSEE THE DEPUTIES MEETINGS. HE DID NOT CONVENE OTHER HE DID NOT CONVENE OTHER AGENCIES. AGENCIES. HE OPERATED UNILATERALLY VERY HE OPERATED UNILATERALLY VERY FREQUENTLY. FREQUENTLY. SO, HE WAS NOT FACTORING IN THE SO, HE WAS NOT FACTORING IN THE OPINIONS OF THE PENTAGON, OF THE OPINIONS OF THE PENTAGON, OF THE CIA, OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN CIA, OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN DECISIONS THAT HE BROUGHT TO THE DECISIONS THAT HE BROUGHT TO THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. AND THAT WAS ONE SUBJECT OF A AND THAT WAS ONE SUBJECT OF A LOT OF CRITICISM. LOT OF CRITICISM. EVEN WITH HAD I WAS INTERVIEWING EVEN WITH HAD I WAS INTERVIEWING DAN COATS SOMEWHAT FAMOUSLY NOW DAN COATS SOMEWHAT FAMOUSLY NOW IN RETROSPECT LAST SUMMER IN IN RETROSPECT LAST SUMMER IN ASPEN WHEN THAT TWEET WENT OUT ASPEN WHEN THAT TWEET WENT OUT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE THAT PUTIN FROM THE WHITE HOUSE THAT PUTIN FIVE DAYS AFTER THE VERY FIVE DAYS AFTER THE VERY CONTROVERSIAL MEETING IN CONTROVERSIAL MEETING IN HELSINKI WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN HELSINKI WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN THAT PUTIN WAS BEING INVITED TO THAT PUTIN WAS BEING INVITED TO THE WHITE HOUSE. THE WHITE HOUSE. THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, THE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAD NOT BEEN SECRETARY OF STATE HAD NOT BEEN CONSULTED. CONSULTED. THAT WAS ALL THE PRESIDENT, THAT WAS ALL THE PRESIDENT, APPARENTLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH APPARENTLY IN COMMUNICATION WITH PUTIN TO BOLTON DIRECTLY TO PUTIN TO BOLTON DIRECTLY TO SARAH SANDERS TO TWEET OUT THE SARAH SANDERS TO TWEET OUT THE INVITATION AND WITHOUT INVITATION AND WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE ELSE IN THE CONSULTING ANYONE ELSE IN THE TEAM WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A TEAM WHETHER OR NOT THIS WAS A GOOD OR BAD IDEA. GOOD OR BAD IDEA. HANS. HANS.>>Reporter: IN SOME WAYS BOLTON>>Reporter: IN SOME WAYS BOLTON RAN HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT. RAN HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT. YOU’LL RECALL THE TIME HE YOU’LL RECALL THE TIME HE ANNOUNCED THE CARRIER STRIKE ANNOUNCED THE CARRIER STRIKE GROUP HEADING TO THE MIDDLE GROUP HEADING TO THE MIDDLE EAST. EAST. THAT DIDN’T COME FROM THE THAT DIDN’T COME FROM THE PENTAGON, THE STATE DEPARTMENT, PENTAGON, THE STATE DEPARTMENT, THE PRESIDENT. THE PRESIDENT. IT CAME FROM THE NEURAL ADVISER. IT CAME FROM THE NEURAL ADVISER. WHAT YOU SAW FROM BOLTON WAS WHAT YOU SAW FROM BOLTON WAS TRYING TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE TRYING TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE PRESIDENT, SOMETIMES BOXING HIM PRESIDENT, SOMETIMES BOXING HIM IN TO MORE BELLICOSE POSITIONS, IN TO MORE BELLICOSE POSITIONS, MORE HAWKISH POSITIONS. MORE HAWKISH POSITIONS. THIS HAS BEEN A FUNDAMENTAL THIS HAS BEEN A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION THROUGHOUT THE TRUMP QUESTION THROUGHOUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS TO ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS TO WHAT EXTENT IS HE GOING TO BE A WHAT EXTENT IS HE GOING TO BE A TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN AND WHAT TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN AND WHAT EXTENT IS HE GOING TO BE AN EXTENT IS HE GOING TO BE AN ISOLATIONIST. ISOLATIONIST. TRUMP’S IMPULSES ON THIS ARE TRUMP’S IMPULSES ON THIS ARE CLEAR. CLEAR. HE WANTED TO DRAW DOWN FROM HE WANTED TO DRAW DOWN FROM AFGHANISTAN. AFGHANISTAN. HE WANTED TO GET OUT OF CERTAIN HE WANTED TO GET OUT OF CERTAIN WARS. WARS. YOU SAW THAT WITH SYRIA AS WELL. YOU SAW THAT WITH SYRIA AS WELL. THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO BRING THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO BRING DOWN TROOPS THERE. DOWN TROOPS THERE. EVEN THOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP EVEN THOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP CRITICIZED PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR CRITICIZED PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR WHAT TRUMP SAID AT THE TIME WAS WHAT TRUMP SAID AT THE TIME WAS WITHDRAWING FROM IRAQ TOO SOON. WITHDRAWING FROM IRAQ TOO SOON. THE QUESTION OF THE HOUR IS HOW THE QUESTION OF THE HOUR IS HOW FUNDAMENTAL IS THIS SPLIT WITHIN FUNDAMENTAL IS THIS SPLIT WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION NOW OR IS IT THE ADMINISTRATION NOW OR IS IT CLEAR THAT THE ISOLATIONISTS CLEAR THAT THE ISOLATIONISTS HAVE WON, AND ARE THERE ANY HAVE WON, AND ARE THERE ANY COUNTERWEIGHTS TO THIS COUNTERWEIGHTS TO THIS BOLTON/TRUMP. BOLTON/TRUMP. MIKE PENCE WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE MIKE PENCE WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AFGHANISTAN DECISION. OF THE AFGHANISTAN DECISION. MIKE PENCE CANNOT BE DISMISSED. MIKE PENCE CANNOT BE DISMISSED. HE IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY HE IS A CONSTITUTIONALLY ENSCONCED FIGURE. ENSCONCED FIGURE. IF HE HAS DISAGREEMENTS, THOSE IF HE HAS DISAGREEMENTS, THOSE CANNOT BE DISMISSED BY SIMPLY CANNOT BE DISMISSED BY SIMPLY FIRING THE VICE PRESIDENT. FIRING THE VICE PRESIDENT. THIS GIVES THE SENSE THAT THE THIS GIVES THE SENSE THAT THE SPLITS ARE REAL, THERE’S SERIOUS SPLITS ARE REAL, THERE’S SERIOUS DEBATE ABOUT THE COURSE OF DEBATE ABOUT THE COURSE OF CERTAIN FOREIGN POLICIES, AND WE CERTAIN FOREIGN POLICIES, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MEANS. MEANS. THE PRESIDENT MAY BE MEETING THE PRESIDENT MAY BE MEETING WITH THE IRANIANS. WITH THE IRANIANS. YOU MENTIONED THE UNITED NATIONS YOU MENTIONED THE UNITED NATIONS MEETING NEXT WEEK. MEETING NEXT WEEK. THE NORTH KOREANS JUST LAST THE NORTH KOREANS JUST LAST NIGHT SUGGESTED THEY’RE WILLING NIGHT SUGGESTED THEY’RE WILLING TO HAVE A THIRD OR FOURTH TO HAVE A THIRD OR FOURTH MEETING DEPENDING ON HOW YOU MEETING DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT THE ONE THEY HAD IN THE COUNT THE ONE THEY HAD IN THE DMZ. DMZ. THAT’S AFTER THEY SENT THAT’S AFTER THEY SENT PROJECTILES INTO THE OCEAN PROJECTILES INTO THE OCEAN THERE. THERE. AND THEN A QUESTION ON WHAT THE AND THEN A QUESTION ON WHAT THE NEXT STAGES WILL BE IN THE NEXT STAGES WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE EAST, ESPECIALLY WITH MIDDLE EAST, ESPECIALLY WITH NETANYAHU AND ISRAEL RIGHT NOW NETANYAHU AND ISRAEL RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT AN EXING MORE OF TALKING ABOUT AN EXING MORE OF THE JORDAN VALLEY. THE JORDAN VALLEY. TUM MULTIWOUS TIME, DIFFERENT

Trump’s SECRET Taliban Meeting Fails


>>President Trump revealed in a series of
bombshell tweets late Saturday that he planned to secretly meet with Taliban leaders and
the president of Afghanistan Sunday at Camp David. Now that meeting came as a surprise and it
was abruptly cancelled. And we found out about that through a series
of tweets that Trump put out. And I’m gonna go ahead and read those tweets
to you and give you some more details about what this meeting was supposed to be about. Trump Tweets, unbeknownst to almost everyone,
the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to
secretly meet with me at Camp David on Saturday. They were coming to the United States tonight,
this is a tweet from Saturday night. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage,
they admitted to an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great soldiers and 11 other people. I immediately cancel the meeting, and called
off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in
order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? I don’t know we should take a look at what’s
happening in Yemen. They didn’t, they didn’t they only made it
worse, then he continues to write. If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during
these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people. Then they probably don’t have the power to
negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway. How many more decades are they willing to
fight? Now as we all know, Donald Trump has wanted
to pull out of Afghanistan and now that the 2020 election is quickly approaching. If he succeeds in it, it’s one of the things
he wants to point to as a success in his first term. However, as with anything Trump tweets, what’s
happening behind the scenes is very different from what he’s putting out there publicly. So we’re gonna get into the details of why
these negotiations really fell apart. But first, let me give you the background
on how this meeting came about in the first place. At some point during the meeting, the idea
was floated to finalize the negotiations in Washington. Trump suggested that he would even invite
President Ashraf Ghani of Afghanistan, whose government has not been party to these negotiation
talks, and get him to sign on. So I want to stop there for a second, so the
United States and the Taliban have been negotiating a peace deal. Without any type of involvement from the actual
government of Afghanistan. And in the meantime, Trump is making concessions
on behalf of the Afghan government as part of these negotiations. So as soon as the Afghan government got involved
clearly there were some issues. And there were disagreements about the concessions
that Trump provided to the Taliban. Namely that the Afghan government would release
Taliban prisoners, which is not something that Afghanistan agreed to do. Now in the days that followed Trump embraced
an even more remarkable idea. He would not only bring the Taliban to Washington,
but to Camp David, the crown jewel of the American presidency. The leaders of a militant organization, and
this is writing from the New York Times. Deems terrorists by the United States would
be hosted in the mountain getaway used for presidents, prime ministers and kings. Just three days before the anniversary of
the Sept 11, 2001 attacks that led to the Afghan war. All right, so let’s open this up for discussion. I just want to say right off the bat, I am
not one to say that you should never negotiate with so called terrorists. We have negotiated with terrorists in the
past. We’re actually fighting a war for terror terrorists
in Yemen right now. So I’m not in the camp of no, you should not
negotiate with the Taliban. However, the way Trump wanted to do this and
the way he wanted to bring the Taliban to Camp David days prior to September 11, I think
was not a good idea to say the least. And the way the negotiations have gone down
so far, have been pretty bad, especially when he hasn’t involved the Afghan government. And based on reporting, Trump wasn’t even
really involved in the negotiations himself until the very end, because he wanted that
spectacle.>>Well, I mean that’s somewhat common, right,
that you do this stuff at the staff level and then you bring the world leaders in at
the end to close and seal the deal. The real problem here is that I mean let’s
take a step back. The Afghan government controls like four streets
in Kabul and that’s about it. And the Americans do in fact leave which in
my view we should. The government is going to likely collapse. It’s going to fall to the Taliban. No American presidents been willing to take
that risk. We thought maybe Trump was so desirous of
saying, I brought the troops back. And so uncaring of the fallout that he might
but no he’s not willing to do that either. So apparently we’re locked into the Afghanistan
for 100 years doing nothing of consequence. For stalling an inevitable solution or an
inevitable consequence of our eventually leaving if we ever do.>>But the Taliban and the Afghan government
despite how marginalized the Afghan government is both want the United States troops to leave
their nation. So if Trump and his team if you’re saying
that, it’s more gonna be on the, lower levels that are having these conversations. If they had the shred of competency, they
would know that that is a common goal to bring those two groups together to have a conversation
if they actually wanted peace. The reality is that Trump acts impulsively,
he sort of wants peace and has these anti interventionist inclinations. But when it comes down to it, it’s the establishment
of the republican party that will always put a wall up in front of him. And he wants to be liked by that his covert
of people around him and by his supporters so much. So that’s what’s going to win out dirt at
the end of the day. And he’s so easily swayed by who’s the last
person in the room.>>True.>>So while that might be his initial instinct
to be anti interventionist. It’s never going to get past the first step
and this is just another another example of it. And it’s frustrating because he could be the
Trojan Horse for us people who love peace who want us to get out of these forever wars. And actually accomplish this goal because
only a republican can for the republicans to accept it. And democrats and liberals are principled
enough to say, okay, we’ll be fine with it even if Trump does it.>>Yeah, I mean, it was the idea that if anyone
could get away with this, it could be trial. And no, he’s he’s not willing to and and frankly
the the Afghan government and the Taliban’s concerns and wishes mean absolutely nothing
to US foreign policy in any fashion.>>Which is why we invaded them, we stay there
for decades.>>This is about an American president trying
to save face. And unfortunately, he’s going to continue
to have Americans there who are still in harm’s way as those tweets show.>>So I wanna get to the Warhawks, who surrounds
him and his administration in just a second. But I do also wanna give you some information
about the soldier who died in these Taliban attack. As I mentioned earlier, 12 innocent people
were killed. Including a soldier who, Army sergeant 1st
class Elis Angel Barreto Ortiz. Now he was cited, his death was cited as the
reason for why this meeting didn’t happen and why the negotiations fell apart. But in reality, these Taliban attacks have
never subsided, like they have continued more American military have died as a result of
these attacks. What really happened is there was so many
disagreements and there was so much chaos in the middle of these negotiations. That it just kind of fell apart and my interpretation
of this is that the administration is now pointing to this particular Taliban attack. For their reason to kind of leave the negotiations
behind at the moment.>>Definitely.>>They claim that they want to continue negotating
but we’ll see. Now, I want to go to Mike Pompeo because Pompeo’s
rhetoric here perfectly demonstrates and illustrates what you guys are talking about. The kind of hawkishness that you can expect
from someone like Pompeo and to an even greater degree John Bolton, take a look.>>We’re not gonna withdraw our forces without
making sure we achieve President Trump’s Twitter objectives. Any reduction of forces will be based on actual
conditions not commitments but actual conditions on the grounds.>>Okay, well giving that conditions appeared
to be worsening.>>Chuck that’s not true.>>You don’t believe, okay?>>I don’t believe that’s true. If you are the Taliban conditions have been
worsening and they’re about to get worse.>>Okay, what you say about to get worse? So you’re gonna, and does this mean we are
going to increase the military activity against the Taliban?>>We’re gonna make sure that everyone in
the region understands that America will always protect its national security interests. And I’ll leave to the Department of Defense
to talk about specifics, but no one should underestimate President Trump’s commitment
to achieving this goal.>>So it’s just clear who surrounds Donald
Trump. So you guys are right in that he has these
inclinations, he has this feeling that, hey, voters are sick of these forever wars, they
wanna get out. But when you surround yourself with the likes
of John Bolton, who’s even more hawkish than Pompeo is in this administration specifically. Well, you’re gonna have some issues, and I
wannna give you some details about what they were negotiating, what were the terms of the
deal as they stood? The deal called for a gradual withdraw the
remaining 14,000 American troops over 16 months, with about 5000 of them leaving within 135
days. In return, the Taliban would provide counterterrorism
assurances to ease American fears of a repeat September 11th from Afghans soil. But I mean, even in that case, do you trust
the Taliban to avoid another terrorist attack? I mean, I wouldn’t trust them. I would take the proper national security
measures to make sure that an attack like that doesn’t happen in the future.>>Well, but I mean, that is the doom loop
of this militarized policy that we’ve continued to see. We can’t leave, because what would happen
if we leave?>>Well, I wanna leave, don’t get me wrong. I wanna leave but like this whole notion that
like they’re gonna promise that they’re not gonna do any they’re not gonna be naughty
anymore. Of course they’re gonna throughout these negotiations
they’ve continued with their attacks.>>I mean nothing in that says we’re not going
to take over the government and rule the country. I mean they could not harbor a terrorist and
still subjugate women and do everything that the Taliban was doing and controlling Afghanistan. Which was not great situation for the Afghan
people.>>It wasn’t, I mean but,
>>And frankly though, that’s their business. I mean, we’ve invaded the,>>I heard.>>Yeah like I’m obviously sympathetic to
the plate of women and all of these individuals who have to suffer under these authoritarian
governments. These religious governments that are being
run by maniacs. I mean, but we fund one in Saudi Arabia. So the fact that we’re showing this false
concern about all what happens is the Taliban actually gains official control as opposed
to just 90% control of Afghanistan, is absurd. So we’re doing all of this in bad faith and
that’s what’s frustrating about this conversation.>>Yeah, I wanna leave you with one final
bit of information on this graphic 11. A senior Taleban leader on Sunday said that
Trump was fooling himself to think that he could bring the Taliban and President Ashrafj
Ghani together at Camp David. Because we do not recognize stooge government
in Kabul. So there were deep disagreements during these
negotiations. The way that the Trump Administration is trying
to spin it as if everything was hunky-dory they had agreed on everything, everything
was fine. It was just that one final terrorist attack
that they did the changed everything is just a lie. They hadn’t really come to an agreement. There were still deep differences and that
doesn’t mean that you should avoid pulling out of Afghanistan. But you should know what the facts are and
how the negotiations really went.

Pompeo on disaster relief in Bahamas, peace talks with the Taliban


>>Chris: DAVID SPUN REPORTING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, THANK YOU. JOINING US NOT TO DISCUSS ALL OF THIS AND MORE, SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO. WELCOME BACK TO FOX OR SUNDAY.>>Secretary Pompeo: IT’S GREAT TO BE BACK ON, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING.>>Chris: LET’S START WITH THE PRESIDENT ‘S TWEET LATE LAST NIGHT THAT HE HAS CALLED OFF THE MEETING, CANCELED THE MEETING WITH THE TALIBAN THAT WAS TO BE HELD AT CAMP DAVID TODAY, A SECRET MEETING, THAT HE HAS CALLED OFF ALL PEACE TALKS, NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE TALIBAN. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE THE PLAN TO BEGIN TO PULL U.S. TROOPS OUT OF AFGHANISTAN?>>Secretary Pompeo: CHRIS, REMEMBER THE PRINCIPLES, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE CLEAR HE WANTS TO REDUCE RISKS TO AMERICANS. IF YOU SHOW THE PICTURES LAST NIGHT FROM THE DIGNIFIED TRANSFER, THE REMAINS OF SERGEANT FIRST CLASS, I WAS OUT THERE WITH HIS FAMILY. IT’S A REMINDER TO ALL OF US THE ENORMOUS COST AND SACRIFICE THESE HEROES MAKE FOR US EACH AND EVERY DAY. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TRYING TO REDUCE THAT RISK. AT THE SAME TIME, IS COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE WE REDUCE THE RISK THAT TERROR SHOULD EVER STRIKE THE UNITED STATES FROM AFGHANISTAN AGAIN SO WE’VE BEEN WORKING FOR MONTHS FOR PEACE AND RECONCILIATION DEAL. WE’VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT, WORKING WITH OTHER AFGHAN LEADERS, WORKING WITH THE TALIBAN TO TRY AND REDUCE THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE TO COMMENCE — YOU WOULD KNOW THIS WELL, TRYING TO GET THE AFGHANS TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, BASIC IDEA FOR ALMOST TWO DECADES NOW AND WE HAVE THE TALIBAN’S COMMITMENT TO DO THAT. WE HAVE A COMMITMENT BREAK FROM AL QAEDA PUBLICLY AND THEY WOULD HONESTLY HAVE TO DELIVER ON THAT COMMITMENT. SO WE’VE MADE REAL PROGRESS, BUT IN THE END, THE TALIBAN OVERREACHED. THEY FORGOT THAT AMERICA IS ALWAYS GOING TO PROTECT — THE COMMANDER RESOLUTE SUPPORT AND THE NATO FORCES THERE ARE STILL AT THIS HEART. KILLED OVER A THOUSAND TALIBAN JUST IN THE LAST TEN DAYS. WHILE THIS ISN’T A WAR OF ATTRITION, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW WHO WILL CONTINUE TO APPLY THE APPROPRIATE PRESSURE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NEVER STRUCK WITH TERROR AGAIN FROM AFGHANISTAN.>>Chris: ARE THE TALKS AND ARE DEAD AND WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO RESTART THEM?>>Secretary Pompeo: FOR THE TIME BEING THEY ARE. WE’VE RECALLED THE AMBASSADOR TO COME BACK TO WASHINGTON SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO THINK THROUGH HOW WE WOULD CHART THE PATH FORWARD AND I THINK — ALTHOUGH THE PRESIDENT HASN’T MADE A FINAL DECISION, WHAT THEY DID HERE WAS THEY TRIED TO USE TERROR TO IMPROVE THEIR NEGOTIATING POSITION AND I THINK ANYONE WHO WAS OBSERVED PRESIDENT TRUMP KNOWS WHETHER IT WAS IN HANOI WITH NORTH KOREA OR WHETHER IT’S BEEN AND HOW WE RESPONDED WHEN THE CHINESE RENEGED ON THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE TRADE DEAL, IN THE COURSE OF CONVERSATION BUT WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE BOTH TEAM’S OUTCOMES THROUGH A NEGOTIATED SOLUTION. IF THE OTHER TEAM COMMITS AN ACT THAT’S INCONSISTENT, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT DEAL. HE’S NOT GOING TO TAKE A BAD DEAL. WE’RE LOOKING FOR MORE THAN WORDS ON PAPER. WERE LOOKING FOR REAL COMMITMENT AND THE TALIBAN DEMONSTRATED THAT EITHER THEY WEREN’T WILLING TO WORK COULDN’T LIVE UP TO THE COMMITMENT THEY NEEDED TO MAKE TO REDUCE VIOLENCE THERE.>>Chris: ‘S OF THE TALKS ARE OFTEN DEFINITELY?>>Secretary Pompeo: I HOPE WE GET THEM STARTED BACK. IT WILL ULTIMATELY BE UP TO THE TALIBAN BURIED THEY HAVE GOT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE ASK THEM TO DO IN THE COURSE OF THE NEGOTIATION.>>Chris: BUT THE TALIBAN, AS DAVID JUST REPORTED, HAS JUST COME OUT OF OUT OF THE ST COME OUT OF OUT OF THE SM COME OUT OF OUT OF THE S->>Secretary Pompeo: A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE — THOSE WORDS — COOLER HEADS I HOPE WILL PREVAIL. I DIDN’T SEE THE FULL STATEMENT, I DON’T KNOW ITS CONTEXT, I DON’T KNOW PRECISELY ISSUED IT. THE TALIBAN IS NOT MONOLITHIC.>>Chris: LET ME JUST — THEY SAID AMERICANS WILL SUFFER MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND THAT THIS WILL RESULT IN THE DEATH OF MORE AMERICAN TROOPS.>>Secretary Pompeo: I HOPE THAT’S NOT THE CASE. WE DON’T WANT ANY LOSS OF AMERICAN LIFE. KNOW THIS, KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT DEFENDS — GENERAL MILLER HAVE THE FULL AUTHORITY TO DO WITH A NEED TO DO TO PROTECT AMERICAN SOLDIERS, SAILORS, AIR FORCE FOLKS WORKING THE AREA AND DO EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO TO PREVENT A TERROR ATTACK FROM EVER COMING BACK TO THE UNITED STATES AS IT DID NOW ALMOST 18 YEARS AGO.>>Chris: I WANT TO GET TO THE BIGGER QUESTION. WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES — YOU HAD AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE ALREADY, YOU’RE ON FIVE WITH TALIBAN LEADERS, FINE, WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO MEET WITH TALIBAN LEADERS WHO HAVE THE BLOOD OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS ON THEIR HANDS JUST THREE DAYS BEFORE 9/11?>>Secretary Pompeo: WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF CAMP DAVID. WE REFLECTED ON THAT AS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DELIVER FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO AS WE CONSIDER THE RIGHT PATH FORWARD — YOUR POINT ABOUT AN AGREEMENT IMPOSSIBLE, I THINK THAT’S TRUE. STILL LOTS OF IMPLEMENTATION ISSUES, LOTS OF TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT NEEDED TO BE WORKED ON EVEN THOUGH WE’VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MONTHS, PRESIDENT TRUMP ULTIMATELY MADE THE DECISION — HE SAID I WANT TO TALK TO THE PRESIDENT. I WANT TO TALK TO THE TALIBAN NEGOTIATORS. I WANT TO LOOK THEM IN THE EYE, I WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET TO THE FINAL OUTCOME THAT WE NEEDED SO THAT WE COULD SIGNOFF A DEAL, SO WE FOUND THAT ARRANGEMENT ACCEPTABLE, THAT THE VERIFICATION WAS ADEQUATE AND WE CONCLUDED THIS WAS A PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE PLACE. YOU KNOW THE HISTORY OF CAMP DAVID. LOTS OF BAD FOLKS HAVE COME THROUGH THAT PLACE, THERE HAVE BEEN LOTS OF PEACE NEGOTIATIONS TAKING PLACE. IT’S ALL MOST ALWAYS THE CASE, CHRIS, THAT YOU DON’T GET TO NEGOTIATE WITH GOOD GUYS. THE REASON YOU’RE IN NEGOTIATIONS, TO END WARS, TO END CONFLICTS, TO END VIOLENCE, TO REDUCE RISK TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE, IS ALMOST ALWAYS BECAUSE THE PERSON ACROSS THE TABLE ISN’T EXACTLY THE FINEST.>>Chris: I UNDERSTAND — I DON’T WANT TO PRESS THE POINT TOO MUCH, BUT YASSER ARAFAT WAS THERE AND OBVIOUSLY HE WAS RESPONSIBLE THE PALESTINIAN LIBERALIZATION, THE DEATH OF MANY PEOPLE.>>Secretary Pompeo: MANY AMERICANS.>>Chris: BUT THE TALIBAN HAS THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS JUST THREE DAYS BEFORE 9/11. NO CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS — YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE ENVOY TALKING, WHAT IS THE PRESIDENT HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT STATUS ON THEM?>>Secretary Pompeo: PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS VERY CLEAR. HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT TO THE RIGHT PLACE. HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMEONE — I’VE OBSERVED IS NOT FOR MY ENTIRE TIME WERE CONFIRM AS CIA DIRECTOR AND NOW SECRETARY OF STATE, HE IS WILLING TO TAKE RISKS. IF HE BELIEVES HE CAN DELIVER AN OUTCOME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HE WAS HOPEFUL THAT THIS CONVERSATION WOULD LEAD — WE’VE BEEN AT THIS NOW ALMOST TWO DECADES. $30 BILLION A YEAR AND WE’VE GOT TERROR RISKS ALL ACROSS THE WORLD, NOT JUST IN AFGHANISTAN. WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FORCES POSTURED RIGHT ALL ACROSS THE WORLD. WE SOMETIMES SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON AFGHANISTAN BECAUSE OF ITS DEEP HISTORY AND DEEP CONNECTION WHAT THEY DID ON 9/11 THAT STILL ANGERS ME TO THIS VERY MOMENT, WITH GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT AND OUR EFFORTS OVER THE LAST MONTH HAVE BEEN TO DO THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT OUR MISSION SET AND I HOPE WE WILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE DOWN THAT PATH SO WE CAN GET THE REDUCTION IN VIOLENCE AND WE CAN GET THE TALIBAN TO MAKE A COMMITMENT AND THEN LIVE UP WITH HER TO BREAK WITH AL QAEDA AND WE CAN GET THEM BACK AT THE NEGOTIATING TABLE WITH THEIR AFGHAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE THERE.>>Chris: IRAN JUST ANNOUNCED THAT IT IS GOING TO USE ADVANCED CENTRIFUGES THAT WILL ALLOW IT TO ENRICH URANIUM FASTER. THIS IS AT LEAST THE THIRD — I DON’T HAVE TO TELL YOU, THE THIRD VIOLATION OF THE NUCLEAR DEAL THAT THEY HAVE MADE IN RECENT MONTHS. ALL OF THESE ARE SHORTENING THE TIME THAT IRAN WOULD NEED TO BUILD AN ATOMIC — NUCLEAR WEAPON TO LESS THAN A YEAR. IS THE THREAT OF A NUCLEAR IRAN INCREASING, AND GIVEN THE FACT U.S. SANCTIONS HAVE HAMMERED THE ECONOMY BUT THEY ARE NOT STOPPING IRAN IN THIS AREA, WHAT’S THE U.S. GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?>>Secretary Pompeo: WE HOPE THE WHOLE WORLD WILL JOIN US. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS BEEN VERY CLEAR, IRAN WON’T HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON ON OUR WATCH. WE WILL STOP IT. HE’S MADE CLEAR WE ARE PREPARED TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ENSURE THAT THAT’S THE CASE. THE CHALLENGE IS OF COURSE WE CAME IN AFTER THE PREVISIT ADMINISTRATION HAD GIVEN THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC — AYATOLLAH, GIVEN HIM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ECONOMIC WEALTH WITH WHICH TO BUILD THESE VERY PROGRAMS AND AS YOU SEE, CHRIS, THEY CAN TURN THEM BACK ON LIKE THAT. ONE OF THE CENTRAL FAILURES OF THE JCPOA IS WHATEVER IT LIMITS THEIR WORK COULD BE TURNED BACK ON IN A MINUTE. WE SEE THIS. THEY MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE SPENDING CENTRIFUGES, HIGHER AND HIGHER ENRICHMENT RATES. THIS IS A CRAZY’S FAILED DEAL. OUR APPROACH IS BEEN VERY DIFFERENT, BUILD OUT ALLIANCES WITH THE GULF STATES, WITH ISRAEL, WITH ALL THE PARTNERS ON THE WORLD WHO UNDERSTAND THE THREAT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS INSIDE OF THE MIDDLE EAST, INSIDE OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN AND TO REDUCE THE CAPACITY TO EXECUTE THAT, AND WE’VE DONE IT. IF WE CAN SEE IT WITH HEZBOLLAH. THEY HAVE FEWER RESOURCES. WE CAN SEE IT WITH THE MILITIAS IN IRAQ, THEY ARE SCRAMBLING FOR RESOURCES. WE THINK THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT WILL SHRINK, THEIR GDP WILL SHRINK BY AS MUCH AS 12 OR 14% THIS YEAR. THIS WILL REDUCE THEIR CAPACITY TO PURCHASE THE THINGS THEY NEED, THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED, THE MATERIALS THEY NEED TO INFLICT TERROR AROUND THE WORLD. IF THAT’S PRESIDENT TRUMP’S APPROACH. I THINK WE’VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL SO FAR. TO BE ONE PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MEETING WITH IRANIAN PRESIDENT, POSSIBLY AT THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY LATER THIS MONTH, HERE HE IS.>>THERE INFLATION IS AT A NUMBER THAT FEW PEOPLE HAVE EVER SEEN INFLATION AT. AND IT’S A VERY SAD SITUATION. THEY COULD SOLVE IT VERY QUICKLY, WE COULD SOLVE IT IN 24 HOURS, BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.>>Chris: BUT HE SAYS NO MEETING UNTIL ALL U.S. SANCTIONS ARE LIFTED FIRST AND PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS THERE’S NO WAY THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN. WHAT DO YOU PUT THE ODDS OF ERIC TRUMP SUMMIT THIS MONTH AT THE U.N.?>>Secretary Pompeo: I WILL LEAVE THAT TO THE FOLKS IN VEGAS. HERE’S HOW I KNOW WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT. PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL THINK ABOUT WHETHER IT’S APPROPRIATE TO MEET BASED ON WHETHER HE THINKS WE CAN GET AN IMPROVED OUTCOME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE HAS SAID HE WOULD MEET WITH HIM WITH NO PRECEDING P HIM WITH NO PRECEDING E HIM WITH NO PRECEDING O HIM WITH NO PRECEDING D HIM WITH NO PRECEDING T HIM WITH NO PRECEDING O HIM WITH NO PRECEDING S HIM WITH NO PRECEDING . END OF THE TUBES AND FROZE INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. THERE ARE THOSE WHO THINK IT’S WIDE TO MEET, THOSE WHO CAN THINK IT WAS JUST KILL PEOPLE ON THE WORLD. MAKING SURE WE DO ALL WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THOSE THAT UNDERSTAND OF THE REVOLUTIONARY NATURE OF THE REGIME IS ON ACCEPTABLE AND THEY CUT OR CHANGE THE BEHAVIOR AND THAT AMERICA WILL NEVER PERMIT THEM TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON. THOSE INSIDE OF IRAN THAT UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK THE MAJORITY OF IRANIAN PEOPLE AS WELL. THOSE OF THE FOLKS THAT WE WANT TO TALK TO SO WE ULTIMATELY GET THE RIGHT OUTCOME. WE WANT A SUCCESSFUL IRAN. WE WANT THEM TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY OF NATIONS. YOU CAN’T DO THAT WHEN YOU’RE BUILDING MUSCLES THAT THREATEN EUROPE, THREATEN ISRAEL, AND BUILDING UP SYSTEMS THAT COULD ULTIMATELY CREATE A NUCLEAR WEAPON.>>Chris: FINALLY, YOU SPOKE AT KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY ON FRIDAY, WHICH DID NOT EXACTLY DAMPEN SPECULATION THAT YOU MIGHT RUN FOR THE SENATE NEXT YEAR. WHICH IS BEEN OBVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT. IN FACT, JERRY MORAN, THE OTHER SENATOR, NOT THE SEAT THAT YOU WOULD BE GOING FOR POTENTIALLY, HAD TALKED ABOUT THE PROSPECTS OF YOU RUNNING THE OTHER DAY. HERE HE IS.>>WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED THAT HE WOULD ENTER THAT RACE AND I THINK YOU WOULD BE A GOOD, SOLID CANDIDATE THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT IN KANSAS.>>Chris: ‘S TO HAVE MORAN’S ENDORSEMENT. SOMEONE SAID THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU HAVE GONE RECENTLY FROM NO TO NO COMMENT. YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT SHUTTING THE DOOR.>>Secretary Pompeo: THAT WAS VERY KIND OF THE SENATOR. I APPRECIATE THE VOTE OF CONFIDENCE AND I KNOW HE WAS TRYING TO BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL, AS WAS SENATOR McCONNELL VARIED>>Chris: HE SAYS ARE HIS NUMBER ONE CHOICE.>>Secretary Pompeo: LET’S BE CLEAR, I’VE GIVEN US A MESSAGE FOR THE ENTIRE TIME UP AND ASK ABOUT THIS. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING ABOUT THIS OR FOLKS LIKE YOU, AND THAT’S JUST FINE. I’M FOCUSED ON WHAT I’M DOING EVERYDAY, SO LONG AS PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS ME TO BE HIS SECRETARY, THAT’S WHAT I’M INTENT UPON. I’VE GIVEN IT A LOT LESS THOUGHT THAN IT SOUNDS LIKE OTHERS MAY HAVE.>>Chris: ONE LAST QUESTION IN THIS REGARD AND I WILL LET HER GO BECAUSE I KNOW IT’S WHAT YOU WILL SAY, I WANT TO DO IT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS ME TO DO. WHAT IF PRESIDENT TRUMP COMES TO YOU BECAUSE OF JERRY MORAN, BECAUSE OF MITCH McCONNELL EARLY NEXT SPRING AND SAYS YOU KNOW WHAT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD DO FOR ME IS TO RUN FOR THE SENATE TO HOLD THE SENATE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO?>>Secretary Pompeo: GOODNESS KNOWS. THESE ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER BECAUSE I SPEND, AS YOU CAN SEE, I SPEND EVERY WAKING MOMENT TRYING TO DELIVER AMERICAN DIPLOMAS AROUND THE WORLD. GOING TO KEEP DOING THAT SO LONG AS I’M DOING THIS WE WILL SEE WHAT LIFE BRINGS ON THE NEXT THING IN LIFE APPROACHES.>>Chris: AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HONORING THE SERVICE OF SERGEANT BARRETO. WE ALL HOLD HIM IN OUR HEARTS, WE ALL HOLD THE HEARTS OF HIS FAMILY, YOU TELL ME HIS DAD WAS IN THE MILITARY, OTHER RELATIVES IN THE MILITARY, TERRIBLE LOSS.>>Secretary Pompeo: THANK YOU, IT WAS A TERRIBLE LOSS. THANK YOU FOR HONORING HIM BY BRINGING THIS BACK UP, A TRUE

Hillary Clinton: Between Two Ferns With Zach Galifianakis


[ theme music ] Where is he?
Wh-Where’s Zach? [ZACH] I was just
trying to scare her. I was just– Like in the…
Halloween spirit of it all. Not a good idea around
the Secret Service. – Are you okay?
– I’m fine. I’m fine.
Let’s start. Hi, welcome to another
edition of Between Two Ferns. I’m your– your host Zach Galifianakis,
and my guest today is Hillary… Clinton. Thank you very much
Mrs. Clinton for being here. Critics have questioned
some of your decision making recently, and by you doing this show
I hope it finally lays that to rest. Oh, I think it–
it absolutely proves their case.
Don’t you? Are you excited to be
the first girl President? Well, I mean being President
would be such an extraordinary honor, and responsibility,
but being the first women elected President and what that
would mean for our country, and particularly what
that would mean for, you know, not just little girls,
little boys too. – That’s pretty special.
– Mmhmm. Not to take away from the historic
significance of you perhaps becoming the first female President,
but for a younger, younger generation, you will also become their
first white President, and that’s pretty neat too. As Secretary, how many words
per minute could you type? And how does
President Obama like his coffee? Like himself? Weak? You know Zach, those are
really out of date questions. I… You need to
get out more. What happens if you
become pregnant? Are we going to be stuck
with Tim Kaine for 9 months? How does this work? I could send you some pamphlets
that might help you understand– First you supported Obama’s
Trans Pacific Partnership deal,
and then you were against it. I think that people deserve to know,
are you down with TPP? Uh… I’m not
down with TPP. No, you’re supposed to say,
“Yeah, you know me.” – Like the hip-hop group–
– Don’t tell me what to say. Fine, lose.
[softly] The country goes to shit. – Let’s talk about Trump, um–
– Oh, let’s. When you see how well it works for
Donald Trump, do you ever think to yourself, “Oh, maybe I should
be more racist?” When he’s elected President,
and Kid Rock becomes
Secretary of State, are you going to move to
Canada or one of the Arctics? I would stay in
the United States. – And what would you try to–
– I would try to prevent him destroying the
United States. So you’re going to
lead the Civil War? No. I wouldn’t–
I wouldn’t take up arms. I-I think that might
be a little extreme. Oh right, because you were saying
before we were rolling that you wanted to take away
everyone’s guns. Very cool.
Cool, cool, cool. I really regret
doing this. Any regrets over losing
the Scott Baio vote? Not a one. – So it wasn’t heartbreaking that–
– No. Yeah, but Chachi.
I mean who’s going to be next? Max Headroom? I’d love to meet the person
who makes your pants suits. Oh really. Yeah, because for Halloween,
I wanted to go as a librarian
from outer space. I think that would be
a good look on you. Have you thought about what you’re
going to be wearing at the debates? You know, there’s this thing called
the double standard, and so, I think about, well, what should the first woman nominee
of one of our two major parties wear to the debate,
and I have no idea, so if you’ve got suggestions
I’m open to them. Do you wonder what your
opponent might be wearing?
I mean– I-I assume he’ll wear, you know,
that red power tie. Or maybe like a
white power tie. That’s even more
appropriate. When you went to Donald Trump’s wedding,
did he write his own vows? And did Michelle Obama
write Melania’s? Um, I… really couldn’t see or hear very well.
So I’m not quite sure what his vows were, but I’m sure they were great
and huge and wonderful. Like his bowels. [ she chuckles ] Chelsea, your daughter, and Ivanka Trump,
Trump’s daughter, are friends– does Ivanka ever call Chelsea,
you know, to talk about boys that
might have crushers on her, like her dad? I don’t think so. What’s going to be the number
one focus of your Presidency? Oh Zach, it has to be the economy.
We need more good jobs
with rising incomes. We gotta make the economy
work for everybody, – not just those at the top–
– We need to take a… We need to take a break. We just need to have a
word from our sponsor. Okay. Washington is broken. The truth is too many politicians
are totally controlled by special
interests and lobbyist. We’re going to make
America great again. [DONALD in voiceover]
I’m Donald Trump,
and I approve this message. He approves the message. Wh-Why would you
play a commercial from my opponent in the
middle of our interview? He paid me in steaks. I would be afraid to
eat them if I were you. It’s a good cut of meat.
I think it’s part of the [bleep] hole. Well, this has been a lot
of fun Mrs. Clinton. We should stay in touch.
What’s the best way to reach you? Email? [voice from device]
You got mail! [ theme music ]

Left Wing Politics | Tony Benn | Oxford Union



um at the start of the 1980s obviously those this big momentum on the left of Labor and it was building up specifically mainly around you obviously after the the 1981 deputy leadership election where sadly you lost by was about half a percent something like that it sort of tailed off what do you sort of think the lessons are that the left can learn from the 1980s well what happened really was the Labor Party moved to the right when I stood as deputy leader I hadn't expected I'd get anything like the amount of support I did I was defeated by less than half a percent and then after that the party moved to the right with clinic and then Blair and so on and out of that came new labor and new labor was really a mini conservative party I think what happened very simply was Blair and his colleagues discussed the prospects for the elections in the future they said that we've been defeated many times and will only ever win if we adopt mrs. Thatcher's economic policy and so that was what new labor was about when Blair was elected leader he said new labor is a new political party will I never join new labor I'm a socialist in the Labor Party of which there are some but the Labour Party is a coalition of forces and I think that that new labor venture did entrench the power of the right in the party and then you see if we got what I say when mrs. Thatcher was asked her greatest achievement she once said new labor she saw new labor as the victory of her ideas over our ideas and that was why we lost in 2010 I don't if that answers your question okay thanks for coming mr. Ben I just wanted to ask you what your what you think your greatest achievement was in your career well people ask that but you see most political so-called political achievements are a collective it's like saying to a general what's your greatest achievements he said I won the war well generals don't win wars they just need people who do win wars I would be proudest if when I die they say Tony Benn he encouraged us I was much encouraged when I was young and I think encouragement the most important thing you could do somebody comes on with a problem you encourage them as to how they can be resolved so I don't if it answers your question but it is my answer to it how far do you think Ed Miliband will be successful in distancing himself from New Labour and will he manage to win votes by doing so well I've known ed Miliband for a long time when he was a student he came and worked in my office did work experience and he's a very clever man I voted for him as leader of the Labour Party I mean I think people trust him and I think that when you come to the general election trust in your leaders is a very very important factor so I hope very much that he does do well and that we win but even if we don't I think we should always look back on the Miliband period as one where we were free to discuss what we thought we should do but we didn't engage in personal and taggin ISM of a kind it's done as damage in the past and do you think that class politics is still relevant and do you think any of the political parties actually represent modern classes well I mean the socialist analysis is very simple that the argument is not between your nation and foreign nations or between one religion or another religion it is between the conflict between the majority of the world's population who create the world's where and the minority in every generation alone the Rome's wealth and that is what the so called class was about it's about turning the political argument into an argument between rich and poor and I think that is an argument which is a tracting people's interest because it's so obviously corresponds with the truth I mean last week we had a cut in further jobs in pursuit of government's economic policy and a reduction of tax on the wealthy now that could only be justified on the grounds that this is a party representing the wealthy against the the rest and I think that is the argument that holds the Labour Party together because that's what people know in their heart is really what it's about and anything other than that is a bit of a diversion you see when I was young I remember teacher telling me there are only two sorts of people in the world the British and foreigners and there were awful lot of foreigners and that wasn't what it was about is about the slave owners of the slaves about the men and the women and all the great arguments have always been about issues that raise questions of economic interest or class you