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[speaks Hebrew] Modern technology
is at the forefront of the fight against terror. One time,
I killed a suicide bomber with an iPad Pro, but luckily,
I had bought AppleCare. I go in now to meet
a respected politician to showcase
the latest Israeli gadget. I’m sitting
with Roy Moore. Alabama Republican Senate
candidate Roy Moore is facing accusations
of sexual misconduct. -Four women…
-A fifth woman… A total of nine women
have now come forward. One accuser says that Moore
initiated a sexual encounter when she was just 14 years old. Get out and vote for Roy Moore. [cheers and applause] Do it. Do it. It really is an honor. -Shalom.
-Shalom. Very, very nice
to meet you. Well, thank you very much.
I’m very honored. Why Alabama have this strong connection
with Israel? It’s just, Alabama has
always been a state that valued freedom,
valued liberty… -Of course.
-…and appreciated what people went through
to get it, and I think that–
-Alabama has always been a place
for equality. It has,
and we’ve, uh, celebrated throughout our history
things like this. In Alabama, people have
always been free, whatever their religion
or race or sexuality. Well, it’s part of
our heritage. -Of course.
-You know? So the difference in Israel,
and many people ask, “Why we have so many
technological innovation?” Because in the army,
there is a unit just for
technological innovation. The army has always been
about technology. We are very proud of the new
antiterror tech system, so I don’t know if you are aware
we are at two wars with Gaza, and in the last one,
Hamas were building tunnels and using them to infiltrate
and launch terror attacks. -Yeah, sure.
-We have developed seismic waves that can detect
where the tunnel is. Hamas are very upset
about this, but it has been
very exciting. Since it has been started,
we have detected three tunnels, each of which would be used
for terrorist attack. They have now used
this technology to identify
other abnormalities. It turns out
that sex offenders and particularly pedophiles
secrete an enzyme, 4-D DHT,
which is actually detectable. It is three times the level
of nonpedophiles, so the phrase
“sweating like a rapist” is actually based
on science. -Mm.
-So in Israel, they have developed
a machine that is used in schools
and playgrounds to detect anyone coming in, and if they detect
a pedophile, the wand alerts
the law enforcement and the schools
within a hundred mile radius. Uh, it is very,
very simple to use. You just switch it on, and because neither of us
are sex offenders, then it make absolutely
nothing. You just put it on.
You put it nearby. [wand beeping] Wait. This, there’s obviously
a problem. Hold on.
Hold on. [wand beeping] It must be faulty. It’s malfunctioning. I’m sure it will do the same
with the other guy here. -Uh, Raziel?
-[Raziel] Yeah? Let me just… [wand beeping] Uh, sorry. -Is this your jacket?
-Yes. Uh, did you lend
the jacket to somebody else maybe? No.
No. -I’ve been married for 33.
-Sure. Never had an accusation
of such things. I am not accusing you at all.
This is not– Well, then if this
is an instrument, I– Certainly, I’m not
a pedophile, okay? -No, but the machine works.
-Well, I don’t know. Then maybe Israeli technology
hasn’t developed properly. -How’s that?
-This is 99.8 percent accurate. It is not saying that you are
a pedophile. Of course not. I am simply cutting
this conversation right now. -No, no, no.
-Thank you. -Have you been–
-Been nice. I support Israel. I don’t support
this kind of stuff. -Thank you.
-No. It is, I’m not saying that you’re
a sex offender at all.

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>>>AT LEAST ONE WOMAN HAS COME>>>AT LEAST ONE WOMAN HAS COME FORWARD TO SAY SHE WAS ABUSED BY FORWARD TO SAY SHE WAS ABUSED BY SEX OFFENDER JEFFREY EPSTEIN SEX OFFENDER JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHILE HE WAS ON WORK RELEASE AS WHILE HE WAS ON WORK RELEASE AS PART OF HIS 2007 PLEA DEAL. PART OF HIS 2007 PLEA DEAL. SO THAT SWEETHEART DEAL HAD HIM SO THAT SWEETHEART DEAL HAD HIM OFFENDING AGAIN. OFFENDING AGAIN. A LAWYER REPRESENTING EPSTEIN A LAWYER REPRESENTING EPSTEIN ACCUSERS SAID YESTERDAY THAT THE ACCUSERS SAID YESTERDAY THAT THE WEALTHY FINANCIER WHO WAS WEALTHY FINANCIER WHO WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS WHILE ALLOWED TO HAVE VISITORS WHILE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING DURING THE 13-MONTH SENTENCE DURING THE 13-MONTH SENTENCE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE ARRANGEMENT TO ENGAGE IN ARRANGEMENT TO ENGAGE IN IMPROPER SEXUAL CONTACT BUT IMPROPER SEXUAL CONTACT BUT ADDED THAT THE NEW ACCUSERS MAY ADDED THAT THE NEW ACCUSERS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN MINORS. NOT HAVE BEEN MINORS.>>HE WAS IN HIS OFFICE MOST OF>>HE WAS IN HIS OFFICE MOST OF THE DAY AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THE DAY AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS HE HAD VISITORS, FEMALE IS HE HAD VISITORS, FEMALE VISITORS. VISITORS. I DON’T KNOW THAT ANY OF THEM I DON’T KNOW THAT ANY OF THEM WERE UNDERAGE, AND THE FEMALE WERE UNDERAGE, AND THE FEMALE VISITORS WERE THERE NOT FOR VISITORS WERE THERE NOT FOR BUSINESS. BUSINESS. WHAT HE DID ON A DAILY BASIS IS WHAT HE DID ON A DAILY BASIS IS ENGAGE IN THESE TYPES OF SEX ENGAGE IN THESE TYPES OF SEX ACTS WITH YOUNG ADULTS AND ACTS WITH YOUNG ADULTS AND CHILDREN. CHILDREN. WHAT HE DID TO MAKE HIS MONEY, I WHAT HE DID TO MAKE HIS MONEY, I DON’T KNOW. DON’T KNOW. WHAT HE DID LEGITIMATELY OUTSIDE WHAT HE DID LEGITIMATELY OUTSIDE OF ENGAGING IN THESE SEXUAL OF ENGAGING IN THESE SEXUAL MISDEEDS, I DON’T KNOW. MISDEEDS, I DON’T KNOW. NOR DO ANY OF THE WITNESSES THAT NOR DO ANY OF THE WITNESSES THAT WE HAVE EVER DEPOSED. WE HAVE EVER DEPOSED.>>SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE.>>SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE. MEANWHILE, EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS MEANWHILE, EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS EXPLAINED THE DOCTORED PASSPORT EXPLAINED THE DOCTORED PASSPORT IN HIS HOME, WHICH SHOWS IN HIS HOME, WHICH SHOWS EPSTEIN’S PHOTO WITH A DIFFERENT EPSTEIN’S PHOTO WITH A DIFFERENT NAME WHILE LISTING HIS RESIDENCE NAME WHILE LISTING HIS RESIDENCE AS SAUDI ARABIA. AS SAUDI ARABIA. ACCORDING TO COURT PAPERS FILED ACCORDING TO COURT PAPERS FILED YESTERDAY, EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS YESTERDAY, EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS SAID THE PASSPORT WAS FOR SAID THE PASSPORT WAS FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION IN THE EVENT PERSONAL PROTECTION IN THE EVENT OF TRAVEL TO DANGEROUS AREAS OF TRAVEL TO DANGEROUS AREAS ONLY TO BE PRESENTED TO ONLY TO BE PRESENTED TO POTENTIAL KIDNAPPERS, HIJACKERS POTENTIAL KIDNAPPERS, HIJACKERS OR TERRORISTS SHOULD VIOLENT OR TERRORISTS SHOULD VIOLENT EPISODES OCCURRED, ADDING THAT EPISODES OCCURRED, ADDING THAT EPSTEIN’S JEWISH FAITH AND AMPLE EPSTEIN’S JEWISH FAITH AND AMPLE FINANCES MADE HIM A TARGET IN FINANCES MADE HIM A TARGET IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THE MIDDLE EAST. ATTORNEYS SAY THE TRAVEL ATTORNEYS SAY THE TRAVEL DOCUMENT CAME FROM AUSTRIA AND DOCUMENT CAME FROM AUSTRIA AND EXPIRED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. EXPIRED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. SO WE WANT TO SHOW YOU NOW SOME SO WE WANT TO SHOW YOU NOW SOME FOOTAGE FROM 1992 THAT OUR FOOTAGE FROM 1992 THAT OUR PRODUCERS FOUND IN THE NBC PRODUCERS FOUND IN THE NBC ARCHIVES THAT SHOWS DONALD TRUMP ARCHIVES THAT SHOWS DONALD TRUMP WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS NOW WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS NOW A SEX OFFENDER AND ACCUSED SEX A SEX OFFENDER AND ACCUSED SEX TRAFFICKER, LOOKING AT AND TRAFFICKER, LOOKING AT AND TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AT A PARTY. TALKING ABOUT WOMEN AT A PARTY.>>WELCOME TO THE SOUTHERN WHITE>>WELCOME TO THE SOUTHERN WHITE HOUSE. HOUSE.>>SINCE BECOMING PRESIDENT,>>SINCE BECOMING PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP HAS BRANDED DONALD TRUMP HAS BRANDED MAR-A-LAGO, THE SOUTHERN WHITE MAR-A-LAGO, THE SOUTHERN WHITE HOUSE, A PLACE THAT ENTERTAINS HOUSE, A PLACE THAT ENTERTAINS FOREIGN LEADERS, WHERE MILITARY FOREIGN LEADERS, WHERE MILITARY STRIKES ARE ORDERED AND THERE’S STRIKES ARE ORDERED AND THERE’S AN OPEN AIR SITUATION ROOM OVER AN OPEN AIR SITUATION ROOM OVER DESSERT. DESSERT.>>WE HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL>>WE HAD THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE THAT YOU PIECE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE THAT YOU HAVE EVER SEEN. HAVE EVER SEEN.>>IN THE 90s, MAR-A-LAGO WAS>>IN THE 90s, MAR-A-LAGO WAS DONALD TRUMP’S SOUTH FLORIDA DONALD TRUMP’S SOUTH FLORIDA PARTY PALACE, ONE FREQUENTED BY PARTY PALACE, ONE FREQUENTED BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WHO IS FACING JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WHO IS FACING CHARGES FOR SEX TRAFFICKING. CHARGES FOR SEX TRAFFICKING. HE HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY. HE HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY. THE PRESIDENT SAYS HIS THE PRESIDENT SAYS HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH EPSTEIN WAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH EPSTEIN WAS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE IN DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THEIR ELITE CIRCLE. THEIR ELITE CIRCLE.>>I KNEW HIM LIKE EVERYBODY IN>>I KNEW HIM LIKE EVERYBODY IN PALM BEACH KNEW HIM. PALM BEACH KNEW HIM. HE WAS A FIXTURE IN PALM BEACH. HE WAS A FIXTURE IN PALM BEACH. I DON’T THINK I HAVE SPOKEN TO I DON’T THINK I HAVE SPOKEN TO HIM IN 15 YEARS. HIM IN 15 YEARS.>>YET A TAPE IN THE NBC>>YET A TAPE IN THE NBC ARCHIVES OF A MAR-A-LAGO PARTY ARCHIVES OF A MAR-A-LAGO PARTY SHOWS TRUMP GIVING EPSTEIN HIS SHOWS TRUMP GIVING EPSTEIN HIS PERSONAL ATTENTION. PERSONAL ATTENTION.>>THE FOOTAGE, SHOT IN NOVEMBER>>THE FOOTAGE, SHOT IN NOVEMBER OF 1992 BEFORE TRUMP OPENED THE OF 1992 BEFORE TRUMP OPENED THE RESORT AS A CLUB, SHOWS THE RESORT AS A CLUB, SHOWS THE FUTURE PRESIDENT SURROUNDED BY FUTURE PRESIDENT SURROUNDED BY CHEER LEADERS FOR THE BUFFALO CHEER LEADERS FOR THE BUFFALO BILLS AND MIAMI DOLPHINS, BILLS AND MIAMI DOLPHINS, CAPTURING TRUMP’S FUN LOVING CAPTURING TRUMP’S FUN LOVING BACHELOR LIFESTYLE FOR AN BACHELOR LIFESTYLE FOR AN APPEARANCE ON FAITH DANIELS NBC APPEARANCE ON FAITH DANIELS NBC TALK SHOW. TALK SHOW.>>WE’RE GOING TO GET GREAT>>WE’RE GOING TO GET GREAT RATINGS ON YOUR SHOW. RATINGS ON YOUR SHOW.>>TRUMP IS SURROUNDED BY WOMEN>>TRUMP IS SURROUNDED BY WOMEN AS MUSIC BLARES IN THE AS MUSIC BLARES IN THE BACKGROUND. BACKGROUND. AFTER A WHILE, TRUMP GOES TO AFTER A WHILE, TRUMP GOES TO GREET THREE NEW GUESTS, AMONG GREET THREE NEW GUESTS, AMONG THEM, THE FINANCIER, JEFFREY THEM, THE FINANCIER, JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. MORE THAN A DECADE BEFORE HIS MORE THAN A DECADE BEFORE HIS GUILTY PLEA ON STATE GUILTY PLEA ON STATE PROSTITUTION CHARGES. PROSTITUTION CHARGES. LATER IN THE FOOTAGE, TRUMP IS LATER IN THE FOOTAGE, TRUMP IS SEEN TALKING TO EPSTEIN AND SEEN TALKING TO EPSTEIN AND ANOTHER MAN AS WOMEN ARE DANCING ANOTHER MAN AS WOMEN ARE DANCING IN FRONT OF THEM. IN FRONT OF THEM. TRUMP ALTERNATES BETWEEN DANCING TRUMP ALTERNATES BETWEEN DANCING AND POINTING OUT WOMEN TO AND POINTING OUT WOMEN TO EPSTEIN AND THE OTHER MAN, AND EPSTEIN AND THE OTHER MAN, AND TELLING EPSTEIN ABOUT THE TELLING EPSTEIN ABOUT THE CAMERAS. CAMERAS. THOUGH EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE THOUGH EXACTLY WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS DIFFICULT TO SAYING IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, AS THEY DISCUSS THE UNDERSTAND, AS THEY DISCUSS THE WOMEN AND THEIR APPEARANCES, WOMEN AND THEIR APPEARANCES, TRUMP GESTURES TO ONE AND TRUMP GESTURES TO ONE AND APPEARS TO SAY TO EPSTEIN, LOOK APPEARS TO SAY TO EPSTEIN, LOOK AT HER BACK THERE, SHE’S HOT. AT HER BACK THERE, SHE’S HOT. AND THEN TRUMP SAYS SOMETHING AND THEN TRUMP SAYS SOMETHING ELSE INTO EPSTEIN’S EAR THAT ELSE INTO EPSTEIN’S EAR THAT MAKES HIM DOUBLE OVER WITH MAKES HIM DOUBLE OVER WITH LAUGHTER. LAUGHTER. BUT AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS NOW, BUT AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS NOW, HE NEVER LIKED EPSTEIN. HE NEVER LIKED EPSTEIN.>>I WAS NOT A FAN OF HIS.>>I WAS NOT A FAN OF HIS. THAT I CAN TELL YOU. THAT I CAN TELL YOU. I WAS NOT A FAN OF HIS. I WAS NOT A FAN OF HIS.>>LOOKS LIKE A BIG FAN OF>>LOOKS LIKE A BIG FAN OF EPSTEIN’S. EPSTEIN’S.>>I FEEL LIKE I SAW MAXWELL,>>I FEEL LIKE I SAW MAXWELL, THE REPORTED RECRUITER FOR THE REPORTED RECRUITER FOR JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND I THOUGHT JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS IN THE BACKGROUND THERE. SHE WAS IN THE BACKGROUND THERE. AGAIN, HERE’S WHAT DONALD TRUMP AGAIN, HERE’S WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID TO NEW YORK MAGAZINE ABOUT SAID TO NEW YORK MAGAZINE ABOUT EPSTEIN IN 2002. EPSTEIN IN 2002. I’VE KNOWN JEFF FOR 15 YEARS, I’VE KNOWN JEFF FOR 15 YEARS, TERRIFIC GUY. TERRIFIC GUY. HE’S A LOT OF FUN TO BE WITH. HE’S A LOT OF FUN TO BE WITH. IT’S EVEN SAID THAT HE LIKES IT’S EVEN SAID THAT HE LIKES BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AS MUCH AS I DO, BEAUTIFUL WOMEN AS MUCH AS I DO, AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE AND MANY OF THEM ARE ON THE YOUNGER SIDE. YOUNGER SIDE. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, JEFFREY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, JEFFREY ENJOYS HIS SOCIAL LIFE. ENJOYS HIS SOCIAL LIFE.>>AND WE CERTAINLY SAW THAT>>AND WE CERTAINLY SAW THAT THERE, WILLIE. THERE, WILLIE. SAW IT VERY CLEARLY. SAW IT VERY CLEARLY. HE AND EPSTEIN THERE VERY MUCH HE AND EPSTEIN THERE VERY MUCH ENJOYING THAT PARTY, AND DONALD ENJOYING THAT PARTY, AND DONALD TRUMP SAYING HE NEVER LIKED TRUMP SAYING HE NEVER LIKED JEFFREY EPSTEIN. JEFFREY EPSTEIN. ONCE AGAIN, PROVEN TO BE A LIE. ONCE AGAIN, PROVEN TO BE A LIE.>>YEAH, HE SAYS I WAS NOT A FAN>>YEAH, HE SAYS I WAS NOT A FAN OF HIS, THAT I CAN TELL YOU. OF HIS, THAT I CAN TELL YOU. THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT LAST THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT LAST WEEK. WEEK. OBVIOUSLY HE WAS A FAN. OBVIOUSLY HE WAS A FAN. WE CAN SEE IT FROM THE QUOTE IN WE CAN SEE IT FROM THE QUOTE IN 2002. 2002. HE SAYS THE RELATIONSHIP BROKE HE SAYS THE RELATIONSHIP BROKE OFF ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. OFF ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO. THE GOOD NEWS, ELISE JORDAN IS THE GOOD NEWS, ELISE JORDAN IS THAT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF THAT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK IS GOING TO PUT ALL OF NEW YORK IS GOING TO PUT ALL OF THIS OUT INTO THE OPEN. THIS OUT INTO THE OPEN. THERE’S GOING TO BE A TRIAL, AND THERE’S GOING TO BE A TRIAL, AND WE’LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. WE’LL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. WE DON’T KNOW IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WE DON’T KNOW IF PRESIDENT TRUMP OR THEN BUSINESSMAN, TV HOST, OR THEN BUSINESSMAN, TV HOST, DONALD TRUMP IS IMPLICATED IN DONALD TRUMP IS IMPLICATED IN ANY WAY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF ANY WAY, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF POWERFUL PEOPLE IN NEW YORK AND POWERFUL PEOPLE IN NEW YORK AND ELSEWHERE THAT HAVE REASON TO BE ELSEWHERE THAT HAVE REASON TO BE NERVOUS FOR WHAT’S HAPPENING NERVOUS FOR WHAT’S HAPPENING DOWNTOWN IN THE SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT. DISTRICT.>>THEY SHOULD BE, AND EPSTEIN>>THEY SHOULD BE, AND EPSTEIN SHOULD BE BEHIND, YOU KNOW, IN SHOULD BE BEHIND, YOU KNOW, IN PRISON RIGHT NOW, AND I’M GLAD PRISON RIGHT NOW, AND I’M GLAD THAT THESE VICTIMS ARE FINALLY THAT THESE VICTIMS ARE FINALLY GETTING TO SEE A PREDATOR WHERE GETTING TO SEE A PREDATOR WHERE HE SHOULD BE. HE SHOULD BE. AGAIN, KUDOS TO JULIE BROWN AND AGAIN, KUDOS TO JULIE BROWN AND THE MIAMI HERALD FOR THEIR THE MIAMI HERALD FOR THEIR PERSISTENCE, STICKING WITH THIS PERSISTENCE, STICKING WITH THIS STORY. STORY. I AM STILL JUST A LITTLE BIT AGH I AM STILL JUST A LITTLE BIT AGH BY THAT VIDEO WE JUST SAW OF, BY THAT VIDEO WE JUST SAW OF, YOU KNOW, THE TWO GUYS HAVING YOU KNOW, THE TWO GUYS HAVING THE TIME OF THEIR LIFE AT THE TIME OF THEIR LIFE AT MAR-A-LAGO IN ’92, AND YOU KNOW, MAR-A-LAGO IN ’92, AND YOU KNOW, JUST YESTERDAY THERE WAS AN ITEM JUST YESTERDAY THERE WAS AN ITEM IN NEW YORK MAGAZINE REFERENCING IN NEW YORK MAGAZINE REFERENCING A 2000 PROFILE BY MAXIMUM GOLF A 2000 PROFILE BY MAXIMUM GOLF MAGAZINE AND IT TALKS ABOUT MAGAZINE AND IT TALKS ABOUT EPSTEIN AND TRUMP, HOW EPSTEIN EPSTEIN AND TRUMP, HOW EPSTEIN HITCHED A RIDE WITH JIZLAINE HITCHED A RIDE WITH JIZLAINE MAXWELL, THE FIXER, THE PITCH, MAXWELL, THE FIXER, THE PITCH, THE COPREDATOR ON HIS PRIVATE THE COPREDATOR ON HIS PRIVATE PLANE. PLANE. WE KNOW THERE’S AT LEAST AN WE KNOW THERE’S AT LEAST AN EIGHT YEAR STRETCH WHERE THEY EIGHT YEAR STRETCH WHERE THEY WERE TIGHT ENOUGH WHERE DONALD WERE TIGHT ENOUGH WHERE DONALD TRUMP WAS WELCOMING EPSTEIN ON TRUMP WAS WELCOMING EPSTEIN ON TO HIS PLANE, AND THAT SEEMS TO HIS PLANE, AND THAT SEEMS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THAT IT PRETTY SIGNIFICANT THAT IT WASN’T JUST A CASUAL FRIENDSHIP, WASN’T JUST A CASUAL FRIENDSHIP, I MEAN, IF I HAD A PLANE, I I MEAN, IF I HAD A PLANE, I WOULDN’T LET ANYONE ON IT. WOULDN’T LET ANYONE ON IT. STEVE PROBABLY DOESN’T. STEVE PROBABLY DOESN’T.>>JEFFREY EPSTEIN, LOOK, I>>JEFFREY EPSTEIN, LOOK, I THINK IT’S CLEAR THAT THEY WERE THINK IT’S CLEAR THAT THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY FRIENDS AND CLOSE AND OBVIOUSLY FRIENDS AND CLOSE AND ALL THAT, AND THEY HAD THIS ALL THAT, AND THEY HAD THIS FALLING OUT IN 2002 AND THERE FALLING OUT IN 2002 AND THERE ARE VARIOUS RUMORS ABOUT WHY ARE VARIOUS RUMORS ABOUT WHY THEY HAD IT. THEY HAD IT. THERE’S A BEFORE AND AFTER PART THERE’S A BEFORE AND AFTER PART TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM, WHICH WE WILL TWO OF THEM, WHICH WE WILL EVENTUALLY GET CLARIFIED. EVENTUALLY GET CLARIFIED.>>THIS IS ALL SO UTTERLY>>THIS IS ALL SO UTTERLY DEPRESSING, THOOES PRESIDENT OF DEPRESSING, THOOES PRESIDENT OF THE — HE’S PRESIDENT OF THE THE — HE’S PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES.>>UTTERLY DEPRESSING AND ALSO,>>UTTERLY DEPRESSING AND ALSO, WHEN ELISE BROUGHT UP JULIE WHEN ELISE BROUGHT UP JULIE BROWN AND THE FACT THAT SHE AND BROWN AND THE FACT THAT SHE AND THE MIAMI HERALD HAVE REALLY THE MIAMI HERALD HAVE REALLY MADE THIS COME TO LIGHT AGAIN, MADE THIS COME TO LIGHT AGAIN, AND DEMANDED JUSTICE ONCE AGAIN, AND DEMANDED JUSTICE ONCE AGAIN, YOU CANNOT HELP BUT GO BACK TO YOU CANNOT HELP BUT GO BACK TO ALAN DERSHOWITZ AND THE LETTER ALAN DERSHOWITZ AND THE LETTER THAT HE WROTE, ALAN DERSHOWITZ THAT HE WROTE, ALAN DERSHOWITZ WHO’S BEEN ACCUSED OF WRONG WHO’S BEEN ACCUSED OF WRONG DOING, ALAN DERSHOWITZ’S LETTER DOING, ALAN DERSHOWITZ’S LETTER TO THE PULITZER COMMITTEE TO THE PULITZER COMMITTEE ARGUING THAT THE MIAMI HERALD ARGUING THAT THE MIAMI HERALD AND JULIE BROWN SHOULD NOT AND JULIE BROWN SHOULD NOT RECEIVE A PULITZER. RECEIVE A PULITZER. THIS FOR A MAN ALREADY ACCUSED THIS FOR A MAN ALREADY ACCUSED AND FOR A NEWSPAPER AND A AND FOR A NEWSPAPER AND A REPORTER WHO HAS DONE WHAT, MY REPORTER WHO HAS DONE WHAT, MY GOD, NOBODY IN THE FEDERAL GOD, NOBODY IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR ANY STATE GOVERNMENT OR ANY STATE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO AND THAT IS TO BRING THIS MAN TO AND THAT IS TO BRING THIS MAN TO JUSTICE. JUSTICE.>>YEAH, WE SHOULD POINT OUT>>YEAH, WE SHOULD POINT OUT THAT PROFESSOR JESUIT HAS THAT PROFESSOR JESUIT HAS COUNTER SUED ON THAT ACCUSATION, COUNTER SUED ON THAT ACCUSATION, DENIED IT VEHEMENTLY. DENIED IT VEHEMENTLY. THE BOTTOM LINE TO YOUR POINT THE BOTTOM LINE TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE MIAMI HERALD. ABOUT THE MIAMI HERALD. THE MIAMI HERALD IS A NEWSPAPER, THE MIAMI HERALD IS A NEWSPAPER, ENEMIES OF THE STATE, ENEMIES OF ENEMIES OF THE STATE, ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE AS DONALD TRUMP HAS THE PEOPLE AS DONALD TRUMP HAS REFERRED TO MUCH OF THE MEDIA REFERRED TO MUCH OF THE MEDIA AND WITHOUT THE MIAMI HERALD, AND WITHOUT THE MIAMI HERALD, WITHOUT JULIE K. BROWN WRITING WITHOUT JULIE K. BROWN WRITING DOGGEDLY OVER MANY MANY MONTHS DOGGEDLY OVER MANY MANY MONTHS ABOUT THIS STORY, NONE OF THIS ABOUT THIS STORY, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED. WOULD HAVE BEEN EXPOSED.>>THAT IS FOR SURE, AND WE WILL>>THAT IS FOR SURE, AND WE WILL STAY ON THIS STORY AS WELL. STAY ON THIS STORY AS WELL.>>>COMING UP, WE HAVE NEW>>>COMING UP, WE HAVE NEW POLLING OUT OF NEW HAMPSHIRE TO

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ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ON HIS PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS BEST FRIEND.” BEST FRIEND.”>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND OUR STEVE EATON. OUR STEVE EATON. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ALREADY? KNOW ALREADY? THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF HIS YACHT. HIS YACHT. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. $4 BILLION. $4 BILLION. HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE SHE IS. SHE IS. HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF THE GRID? THE GRID? I CAN’T. I CAN’T.>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD. WORLD. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED THIS IN WORLD. THIS IN WORLD. SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR HER? HER?>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US? HAVE NOT TOLD US?>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. RIGHT THING TO DO. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON FRIDAY. FRIDAY.>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD,>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD, ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS GO? INVESTIGATIONS GO? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM?>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE. HERE. THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING BACK MANY YEARS. BACK MANY YEARS. THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT RELATE TO THE MONEY. RELATE TO THE MONEY.>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS AGO. AGO. WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE DID. DID. WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK WITH AUTHORITIES THEN. WITH AUTHORITIES THEN.>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT WAS DISCOVERED. WAS DISCOVERED.>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO THAT? THAT?>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED. BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED.>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST. BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST.>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT. BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT.>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE LIKES OF WEXNER. LIKES OF WEXNER. OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE INTERESTED. INTERESTED. LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUR CALLS. OUR CALLS. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD. NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD.>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING JUSTICE. JUSTICE. SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT THAT’S SOMETHING THAT PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST IN. IN. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE ON. ON. FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY HAD BANKING RECORDS. HAD BANKING RECORDS. IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN PUBLIC FILINGS. PUBLIC FILINGS.>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW THAT HE’S DEAD? THAT HE’S DEAD?>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS SATURDAYS. SATURDAYS.>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA KIMABLES KIMABLES BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. WE ARE REPORTING HERE — WE ARE REPORTING HERE –>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. DANNY DANNY DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT BEFORE. GREAT POINT BEFORE. IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF. OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST. IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. TO CONSIDER. I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS EXECUTED IN THE STATE. EXECUTED IN THE STATE. IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN.>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE TESTIFY, ARE ALL THOSE PARTIES

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>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE EPSTEIN WAS. EPSTEIN WAS. CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU FIRST. FIRST. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH? HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH?>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT.>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT. I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I SAID, NO. SAID, NO. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME REACTION. REACTION. HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. THING. WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN SO — SO –>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH? THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH?>>YES, I DO.>>YES, I DO. I DO. I DO. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS HAIR. HAIR. HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO AN OFFICE. AN OFFICE. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME TO HIMSELF. TO HIMSELF.>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS? HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS?>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN SHOCK. SHOCK. YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF EMOTIONS. EMOTIONS. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S ANGER REALLY. IT’S ANGER REALLY. THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY.>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY?>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY? WHERE DO ALL OF THESE WHERE DO ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE REPORTING GO? REPORTING GO? LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE STREETS? STREETS?>>NO.>>NO. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL.>>WHY?>>WHY?>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS A BIG PAPER TRAIL. A BIG PAPER TRAIL.>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS NOW? NOW?>>I THINK IN TIME.>>I THINK IN TIME. YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO TRIAL. TRIAL. HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS VERY STRONG. VERY STRONG.>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES. CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CLINTONS TO THIS. CLINTONS TO THIS. IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE PLACE. PLACE. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING JUSTICE HERE? GETTING JUSTICE HERE?>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW.>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW. WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL PRISONS. PRISONS. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. SUICIDE WATCH. HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CELL WITH HIM. IN THE CELL WITH HIM. THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY REMOVED ON FRIDAY. REMOVED ON FRIDAY. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT? THAT?>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR.>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR. EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER PEOPLE. PEOPLE. SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE PROSECUTED. PROSECUTED. THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT. AGREE WITH THAT. HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY. COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY.>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY?>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY? DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN UP OVER AND OVER AS THE UP OVER AND OVER AS THE COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS. YOUNG GIRLS. IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE IS. KNOW WHERE SHE IS. THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS? KNOW WHERE SHE IS? I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS EVERY SECOND. EVERY SECOND. SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. SHE HAD A NONPROFIT SHE HAD A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. ORGANIZATION. SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO EVADE IT THIS LONG. TO EVADE IT THIS LONG.>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE QUESTION IS DOES HE? THE QUESTION IS DOES HE?>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS OUTRAGED. OUTRAGED. CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS PRISON. PRISON. IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A HAND IN IT? HAND IN IT? BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE. HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE.>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF JUSTICE. JUSTICE. THESE KINDS OF THINGS — THESE KINDS OF THINGS –>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE ARE SAYING, YEP. ARE SAYING, YEP. THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK EYE? EYE?>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDS. UNFOLDS. BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. FROM A CORRECTIONAL FROM A CORRECTIONAL ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF HONOR. HONOR. IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE TAKEN OUT. TAKEN OUT. I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT FACILITY. FACILITY. HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE FACILITY. FACILITY. HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADX. ADX. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY FRANKLY. FRANKLY.>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR REPORTING GO FROM HERE? REPORTING GO FROM HERE?>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE OTHER DAY. OTHER DAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THREADS TO FOLLOW. THREADS TO FOLLOW. THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING — WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING –>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW. YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY WERE AFRAID. WERE AFRAID. NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEY COULD VERY WELL BE AFRAID

President Donald Trump Cracks Under Pressure, Bails On Acosta | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC



>>> TRUMP HIT WITH A BIG LOSS >>> TRUMP HIT WITH A BIG LOSS TODAY SURRENDERING TO PRESSURE TODAY SURRENDERING TO PRESSURE TO OUST HIS LABOR SECRETARY OVER TO OUST HIS LABOR SECRETARY OVER TREATMENT OF JEFF EPSTEIN. TREATMENT OF JEFF EPSTEIN. SECRETARY AN COSTAS STRIPING TO SECRETARY AN COSTAS STRIPING TO DEFEND HIMSELF WEDNESDAY. DEFEND HIMSELF WEDNESDAY. BY FRIDAY MORNING HE’S TOAST. BY FRIDAY MORNING HE’S TOAST. HIS TEAM SAID THIS WEEK THERE HIS TEAM SAID THIS WEEK THERE WAS "ZERO CHANCE HE FIRES ACOSTA WAS "ZERO CHANCE HE FIRES ACOSTA RIGHT AWAY." RIGHT AWAY." IT TURNS OUT ZERO CHANCE MORE IT TURNS OUT ZERO CHANCE MORE LIKE 100% CHANCE. LIKE 100% CHANCE. THIS LOSS COMES A DAY AFTER THIS LOSS COMES A DAY AFTER TRUMP DEFEATED ON THE COURT TRUMP DEFEATED ON THE COURT BATTLE OVER THE CENSUS FOLLOWING BATTLE OVER THE CENSUS FOLLOWING MONTHS OF BLUSTER WHERE HE MONTHS OF BLUSTER WHERE HE CLAIMED HE WOULDN’T REMINDER. CLAIMED HE WOULDN’T REMINDER. A REMINDER OF ONE PRINCIPLE FROM A REMINDER OF ONE PRINCIPLE FROM OUR COLLEAGUE RACHEL MADDOW. OUR COLLEAGUE RACHEL MADDOW. >> DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY >> DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY THEY’RE GOING TO DO. THEY’RE GOING TO DO. LOOK WHAT THEY’RE DOING. LOOK WHAT THEY’RE DOING. DON’T WATCH WHAT THEY SAY. DON’T WATCH WHAT THEY SAY. WATCH WHAT THEY DO. WATCH WHAT THEY DO. WE’VE TAKEN IT AS A GENERAL WE’VE TAKEN IT AS A GENERAL MANTRA TO WATCH WHAT THEY DO, MANTRA TO WATCH WHAT THEY DO, NOT WHAT THEY SAY. NOT WHAT THEY SAY. WATCH WHAT THEY DO. WATCH WHAT THEY DO. >> WATCH WHAT THEY DO. >> WATCH WHAT THEY DO. THIS CAME IN PART IN RESPONSE TO THIS CAME IN PART IN RESPONSE TO INTREPID REPORTING BY "MIAMI INTREPID REPORTING BY "MIAMI HERALD" JOURNALIST WHO WHO HERALD" JOURNALIST WHO WHO EXPOSED THE DEPth OF THE SCANDAL EXPOSED THE DEPth OF THE SCANDAL PLUS PROMINENT DEMOCRATS WHO PLUS PROMINENT DEMOCRATS WHO PRESS AND DEMAND ACOSTA’S PRESS AND DEMAND ACOSTA’S OUSTING. OUSTING. I’M JOINED BY NEERA TANDEN WHO I’M JOINED BY NEERA TANDEN WHO WORKED FOR OBAMA AND CLINTON. WORKED FOR OBAMA AND CLINTON. GREAT TO SEE YOU. GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS AS A >> HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS AS A STORY OF IGING MOST OF WHAT THE STORY OF IGING MOST OF WHAT THE PROWSE SAYS AND LOOKING AT FACTS PROWSE SAYS AND LOOKING AT FACTS AS THEY PILED UP? AS THEY PILED UP? >> I THINK THREE YEARS INTO THIS >> I THINK THREE YEARS INTO THIS OR 2 1/2 YEARS INTO THIS, MOST OR 2 1/2 YEARS INTO THIS, MOST OF US RECOGNIZE THAT WHATEVER OF US RECOGNIZE THAT WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE BACKGROUND HAS THE WHITE HOUSE BACKGROUND HAS 10%, 20%, 30% CHANCE OF BEING 10%, 20%, 30% CHANCE OF BEING TRUE A DAY, TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS TRUE A DAY, TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS OR SOMETIMES A FEW MONTHS LATER. OR SOMETIMES A FEW MONTHS LATER. SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS REALLY WHY IS THERE ANY REALLY WHY IS THERE ANY CREDIBILITY GIVEN TO WHITE HOUSE CREDIBILITY GIVEN TO WHITE HOUSE STATEMENTS, WHITE HOUSE STATEMENTS, WHITE HOUSE BACKGROUND. BACKGROUND. WHITE HOUSE YOU KNOW, SENIOR WHITE HOUSE YOU KNOW, SENIOR AIDE SAYS WHEN IT’S SO OFTEN AIDE SAYS WHEN IT’S SO OFTEN PROVEN TO BE FALSE AS ACOSTA SAW PROVEN TO BE FALSE AS ACOSTA SAW HIMSELF THIS MORNING. HIMSELF THIS MORNING. >> DO YOU VIEW AS A STUDENT OF >> DO YOU VIEW AS A STUDENT OF WASHINGTON WHO HAS BEEN IN THESE WASHINGTON WHO HAS BEEN IN THESE HIGH PRO PHI POSITIONS AND MOST HIGH PRO PHI POSITIONS AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE NOT, DO YOU VIEW PEOPLE HAVE NOT, DO YOU VIEW THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THAT "MIAMI HERALD" REPORTING THAT I "MIAMI HERALD" REPORTING THAT I MENTIONED? MENTIONED? >> OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. >> OH, ABSOLUTELY NOT. OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF IF ANYTHING HAS SHOWN A BLIND IF ANYTHING HAS SHOWN A BLIND EYE TO THIS KIND OF SCANDAL EYE TO THIS KIND OF SCANDAL PARTICULARLY SCANDALS THAT PARTICULARLY SCANDALS THAT AFFECT THE TREATMENT IMPACT THE AFFECT THE TREATMENT IMPACT THE TREATMENT OF WOMEN. TREATMENT OF WOMEN. AND SO I THINK IT WAS REALLY AND SO I THINK IT WAS REALLY JUST THE ADDED DETAIL AFTER JUST THE ADDED DETAIL AFTER DETAIL AFTER DETAIL. DETAIL AFTER DETAIL. AND THE INCREDIBLE REPORTING AND THE INCREDIBLE REPORTING JUST ABOUT HOW MUCH ACOSTA ACTED JUST ABOUT HOW MUCH ACOSTA ACTED TO PROTECT EPSTEIN. TO PROTECT EPSTEIN. IT’S NOT THAT HE JUST DIDN’T IT’S NOT THAT HE JUST DIDN’T PROSECUTE BUT THE WAY HE HANDLED PROSECUTE BUT THE WAY HE HANDLED THIS, IT REALLY CREATED SECURITY THIS, IT REALLY CREATED SECURITY FOR EPSTEIN AGAINST FUTURE FOR EPSTEIN AGAINST FUTURE PROSECUTION WHICH TOOK YEARS AS PROSECUTION WHICH TOOK YEARS AS WE’VE SEEN NOW, YEARS FOR A WE’VE SEEN NOW, YEARS FOR A BETTER AND MORE ABLE PROSECUTOR BETTER AND MORE ABLE PROSECUTOR TO PIERCE. TO PIERCE. >> SO HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS, I >> SO HOW DO YOU VIEW THIS, I DON’T KNOW IF CAP IDENTIFIES AS DON’T KNOW IF CAP IDENTIFIES AS IN THE RESISTANCE OR NOT BUT IN THE RESISTANCE OR NOT BUT YOU’RE VERY POWERFUL. YOU’RE VERY POWERFUL. >> MORE IN THE RESISTANCE THAN >> MORE IN THE RESISTANCE THAN NOT. NOT. >> YOU’RE A POWERFUL NORSE IN >> YOU’RE A POWERFUL NORSE IN WASHINGTON. WASHINGTON. I’M SURE YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE, I I’M SURE YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE, I DO ANECDOTALLY, QUOTE, NOTHING DO ANECDOTALLY, QUOTE, NOTHING MATTERS. MATTERS. OKAY THEY REPORTED A THING THAT OKAY THEY REPORTED A THING THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS SCANDALOUS, IS OUTRAGEOUS SCANDALOUS, TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. WHAT’S IT GOING TO LEAD TO. WHAT’S IT GOING TO LEAD TO. THE "MIAMI HERALD" AND I SAY THE "MIAMI HERALD" AND I SAY THIS OUT OF RESPECT FOR THEM. THIS OUT OF RESPECT FOR THEM. IT’S NOT LIKE THEY HAD THE IT’S NOT LIKE THEY HAD THE LARGEST MOST WELL FUNDED LARGEST MOST WELL FUNDED MEGAPHONE IN THE WORLD BUT THEY MEGAPHONE IN THE WORLD BUT THEY DID DOGGED REPORTING, PRINT DID DOGGED REPORTING, PRINT REPORTING. REPORTING. THAT DROVE SOMETHING. THAT DROVE SOMETHING. HOW DOES ALL OF THIS IN YOUR HOW DOES ALL OF THIS IN YOUR VIEW RELATE TO THE LARGER VIEW RELATE TO THE LARGER POLITICAL PROJECT WHICH IS A POLITICAL PROJECT WHICH IS A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED WORLD WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED AND CYNIC AL AT TIMES. AND CYNIC AL AT TIMES. >> THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY >> THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT POINT. IMPORTANT POINT. YOU SEE A LOT OF THIS. YOU SEE A LOT OF THIS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST SORT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST SORT OF BOGGED DOWN BY THE TERRIBLE BOGGED DOWN BY THE TERRIBLE NEWS, THE SCANDAL, YOU KNOW, NEWS, THE SCANDAL, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE SORT OF THOUGHT OF MANY PEOPLE SORT OF THOUGHT OF THE REPORTING ON EPSTEIN WHICH THE REPORTING ON EPSTEIN WHICH IS PARTICULARLY HORRIFYING IN IS PARTICULARLY HORRIFYING IN ITS PREDATORY NATURE AS ALMOST ITS PREDATORY NATURE AS ALMOST PART OF THE HAZE OF SCANDAL. PART OF THE HAZE OF SCANDAL. WHAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT WHAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THIS AND WITH THE CENSUS IS WITH THIS AND WITH THE CENSUS IS TRUMP CAN BE BE FORCED TO BE TRUMP CAN BE BE FORCED TO BE BACKED DOWN BY PUBLIC SCANDAL BACKED DOWN BY PUBLIC SCANDAL AND ACTUALLY BY THE COURTS. AND ACTUALLY BY THE COURTS. THAT RESISTING, OPPOSING, THAT RESISTING, OPPOSING, ENERGIZING PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY ENERGIZING PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE REAL RESULTS. HAVE REAL RESULTS. PARTICULARLY AS WE HAVE NEWS OF PARTICULARLY AS WE HAVE NEWS OF THESE HORRIFYING DETENTION THESE HORRIFYING DETENTION CAMPS. CAMPS. I DO THINK PEOPLE ARE SO I DO THINK PEOPLE ARE SO INCREDIBLY WARY. INCREDIBLY WARY. BUT ACOSTA LEARNED THAT IT BUT ACOSTA LEARNED THAT IT ACTUALLY MATTERS THAT YOU HAVE A ACTUALLY MATTERS THAT YOU HAVE A LEVEL OF SCANDAL THAT YOU KNOW, LEVEL OF SCANDAL THAT YOU KNOW, EVEN TRUMP CAN BE FORCED TO ACT. EVEN TRUMP CAN BE FORCED TO ACT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. AS YOU SAY, ALL INDY INDICATION AS YOU SAY, ALL INDY INDICATION WITH ZERO% QUOTE TRUMP WANTED TO WITH ZERO% QUOTE TRUMP WANTED TO BACK HIM UP, GIVE A PRESS BACK HIM UP, GIVE A PRESS CONFERENCE. CONFERENCE. DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, PUT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY, PUT IT OUT THERE. IT OUT THERE. NO, YOU’RE FACT CHECKED BY NO, YOU’RE FACT CHECKED BY REPORTERS AND OTHER EXPERTS AND REPORTERS AND OTHER EXPERTS AND IT OVERWHELMED HIM. IT OVERWHELMED HIM. THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE IMPORTANT. THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE IMPORTANT. I SAY THAT AS AN OBSERVATION I SAY THAT AS AN OBSERVATION ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE, NOT OF ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE, NOT OF COURSE, THE WIDER POLITICS OF IT COURSE, THE WIDER POLITICS OF IT WHICH IS WHY WE THOUGHT YOU WHICH IS WHY WE THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR WOULD BE INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM ON THIS. FROM ON THIS. >> I’LL SAY ONE ADDITIONAL >> I’LL SAY ONE ADDITIONAL POINT. POINT. I DO WANT TO NOTE THE HEROISM OF I DO WANT TO NOTE THE HEROISM OF THE WOMEN COMING FORWARD. THE WOMEN COMING FORWARD. I THINK THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO I THINK THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO THE FACT. THE FACT. THE FACT THAT YOU HEARD A WOMAN THE FACT THAT YOU HEARD A WOMAN IN HER VOICE TALK ABOUT WHAT IN HER VOICE TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. HAPPENED TO HER. SHE’S A HERO. SHE’S A HERO. THESE WOMEN ARE HEROES. THESE WOMEN ARE HEROES. THOSE VOICES MADE THIS CHANGE THOSE VOICES MADE THIS CHANGE HAPPEN, AS WELL. HAPPEN, AS WELL. >> YEAH, 100%. >> YEAH, 100%. WHEN I’M REFERENCING THE MIAMI WHEN I’M REFERENCING THE MIAMI PIECE IT QUOTED ON BACKGROUND PIECE IT QUOTED ON BACKGROUND ANONYMOUS LIAM OF THOSE PEOPLE