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ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ON HIS PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS BEST FRIEND.” BEST FRIEND.”>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND OUR STEVE EATON. OUR STEVE EATON. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ALREADY? KNOW ALREADY? THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF HIS YACHT. HIS YACHT. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. $4 BILLION. $4 BILLION. HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE SHE IS. SHE IS. HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF THE GRID? THE GRID? I CAN’T. I CAN’T.>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD. WORLD. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED THIS IN WORLD. THIS IN WORLD. SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR HER? HER?>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US? HAVE NOT TOLD US?>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. RIGHT THING TO DO. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON FRIDAY. FRIDAY.>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD,>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD, ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS GO? INVESTIGATIONS GO? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM?>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE. HERE. THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING BACK MANY YEARS. BACK MANY YEARS. THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT RELATE TO THE MONEY. RELATE TO THE MONEY.>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS AGO. AGO. WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE DID. DID. WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK WITH AUTHORITIES THEN. WITH AUTHORITIES THEN.>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT WAS DISCOVERED. WAS DISCOVERED.>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO THAT? THAT?>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED. BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED.>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST. BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST.>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT. BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT.>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE LIKES OF WEXNER. LIKES OF WEXNER. OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE INTERESTED. INTERESTED. LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUR CALLS. OUR CALLS. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD. NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD.>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING JUSTICE. JUSTICE. SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT THAT’S SOMETHING THAT PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST IN. IN. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE ON. ON. FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY HAD BANKING RECORDS. HAD BANKING RECORDS. IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN PUBLIC FILINGS. PUBLIC FILINGS.>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW THAT HE’S DEAD? THAT HE’S DEAD?>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS SATURDAYS. SATURDAYS.>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA KIMABLES KIMABLES BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. WE ARE REPORTING HERE — WE ARE REPORTING HERE –>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. DANNY DANNY DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT BEFORE. GREAT POINT BEFORE. IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF. OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST. IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. TO CONSIDER. I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS EXECUTED IN THE STATE. EXECUTED IN THE STATE. IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN.>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE TESTIFY, ARE ALL THOSE PARTIES

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>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE>>>THIS MORNING THERE ARE MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS. A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE A WHOLE LOT MORE IN THE CASE AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS AGAINST JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN APPARENT SUICIDE IN A MANHATTAN JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. JAIL OVER THE WEEKEND. HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE HERE TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE QUESTIONS THE REPORTER WHO BROKE THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT THIS STORY WIDE OPEN AND PUT EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE EPSTEIN BACK INTO THE SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” SPOTLIGHT, “MIAMI HERALD’S” JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL JULIE K. BROWN, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT PROSECUTOR AND PROFESSOR AT GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL GEORGETOWN LAW SCHOOL PAUL BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO BUTLER AND CAMERON LINDSAY WHO SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON SERVED AS A FEDERAL PRISON WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED WARDEN AND SPECIFICALLY WORKED AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING AT MULTIPLE FACILITIES INCLUDING THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE THE SISTER FACILITY OF WHERE EPSTEIN WAS. EPSTEIN WAS. CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS CAMERON, YOU KNOW I NEED ANSWERS TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. TO HOW THIS JAIL WORKS. BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU BUT JULIE, I HAVE TO GO TO YOU FIRST. FIRST. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH? HEARD ABOUT HIS DEATH?>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT.>>I JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT. I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I I MEAN, I GOT A PHONE CALL AND I SAID, NO. SAID, NO. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT. I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE SAME REACTION. REACTION. HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? HOW COULD THAT HAVE HAPPENED? GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE ALLEGEDLY TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO TRIED SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS? EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME EVERYBODY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. THING. WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? WASN’T HE UNDER SUICIDE WATCH? HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE HOW COULD SOMEBODY ON SUICIDE WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WATCH COMMIT SUICIDE? WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW WE NOW KNOW THAT HE SOMEHOW MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE MANIPULATED THINGS SO THAT HE GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN GOT OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH SO EVEN SO — SO –>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED>>DO YOU THINK HE MANIPULATED THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH? THINGS TO GET OFF SUICIDE WATCH?>>YES, I DO.>>YES, I DO. I DO. I DO. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. BECAUSE OF HIS HISTORY. REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS REMEMBER THE WAY HE WAS INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, INCARCERATED IN FLORIDA, I MEAN, HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HE HAD GUARDS WHO WERE LEAVING HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE HIS DOOR OPEN, GUARDS WHO WERE BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, BRINGING HIM STEW, YOU KNOW, GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS GUARDS THAT WERE CUTTING HIS HAIR. HAIR. HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY HE WAS ALLOWED TO LEAVE EVERY DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO DAY WITH HIS OWN VALET AND GO TO AN OFFICE. AN OFFICE. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T SURPRISE ME AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT ALL HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE SOMEHOW BEEN ABLE TO MANIPULATE THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME THEM INTO GIVING HIM SOME TIME TO HIMSELF. TO HIMSELF.>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME>>I KNOW YOU’VE SPOKEN TO SOME OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. OF THE VICTIMS SINCE SATURDAY. HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS? HOW ARE THEY PROCESSING THIS?>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN>>I THINK THEY ARE ALL STILL IN SHOCK. SHOCK. YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF YOU KNOW, IT’S A RANGE OF EMOTIONS. EMOTIONS. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S SHOCK, IT’S GRIEF. IT’S ANGER REALLY. IT’S ANGER REALLY. THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER THIS IS, REPRESENTS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO JUSTICE SYSTEM, IN PARTICULAR TO WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE WEALTHY MEN WHO SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF TO GET A DIFFERENT KIND OF JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR JUSTICE THAN OTHER REGULAR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY. PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY.>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY?>>HOW RELIEVED ARE THEY? WHERE DO ALL OF THESE WHERE DO ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE INVESTIGATIONS OR EVEN THE REPORTING GO? REPORTING GO? LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN LET’S SAY MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS HIS CIRCLE WERE NOT CRIMINALS AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. AND SEX OFFENDERS LIKE HE WAS. BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST BUT WHAT IF THEY WERE JUST ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO ABSOLUTE VILE SLEAZE BAGS WHO DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, DIDN’T WANT THE PILOTS TO SAY, HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE HERE’S WHO’S BEEN ON THE PLANE TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? TEN TIMES, 15 TIMES? ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE ARE THOSE PEOPLE DANCING IN THE STREETS? STREETS?>>NO.>>NO. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL. I DON’T THINK SO AT ALL.>>WHY?>>WHY?>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR>>I THINK THE U.S. PROSECUTOR IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT IS GOING TO — THERE ARE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. OF DOCUMENTS OUT THERE. WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT WE DON’T KNOW COMPLETELY WHAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS BUT HE HAS A BIG PAPER TRAIL. A BIG PAPER TRAIL.>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS>>WILL WE SEE THOSE DOCUMENTS NOW? NOW?>>I THINK IN TIME.>>I THINK IN TIME. YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS YOU KNOW, WHEN HE BRINGS INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO INDICTMENTS AND THE CASE GOES TO TRIAL. TRIAL. HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE HE WILL PROSECUTE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN INVOLVED IN THIS I FEEL CERTAIN BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE BECAUSE I’VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS OUT THERE, SOME OF IT, AND IT IS VERY STRONG. VERY STRONG.>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF>>PAUL, WITHIN MINUTES OF LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE LEARNING OF EPSTEIN’S DEATH THE INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH INTERNET WAS FLOODED WITH CONSPIRACY THEORIES. CONSPIRACY THEORIES. THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A THE PRESIDENT EVEN RETWEETING A CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY TYING THE CLINTONS TO THIS. CLINTONS TO THIS. IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE IT IS NOT JUST — THERE ARE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES ALL OVER THE PLACE. PLACE. HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE HOW MUCH DOES THAT COMPLICATE THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY THINGS IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY GETTING JUSTICE HERE? GETTING JUSTICE HERE?>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW.>>HERE’S WHAT WE KNOW. WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WE KNOW MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL WAS ENABLED BY THE FEDERAL PRISONS. PRISONS. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. HE WAS UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER SUICIDE WATCH. SUICIDE WATCH. HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE HE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CELL WITH HIM. IN THE CELL WITH HIM. THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY THAT PERSON WAS MYSTERIOUSLY REMOVED ON FRIDAY. REMOVED ON FRIDAY. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CHECKED EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY EVERY 30 MINUTES AND APPARENTLY WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. WAS NOT CHECKED FOR HOURS. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON. SOMETHING BIZARRE WAS GOING ON.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE BESIDES THE MOMENTARY OUTRAGE THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, THAT WE’RE EXPERIENCING TODAY, WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT — WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT? THAT?>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR.>>SO THE COCONSPIRATORS, MR. EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL EPSTEIN’S VAST, CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER CONSPIRACY WAS ENABLED BY OTHER PEOPLE. PEOPLE. SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO RECRUIT THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO TRAIN THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE SOMEBODY HAD TO COERCE THOSE GIRLS. GIRLS. REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY REMEMBER, THE BIZARRE TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA OF JUSTICE THAT THE FLORIDA PLEA DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE DEAL REPRESENTED SAID THAT THOSE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE COCONSPIRATORS COULD NOT BE PROSECUTED. PROSECUTED. THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THANKFULLY THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT NEW YORK, MR. BERMAN, DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT. AGREE WITH THAT. HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR HE SHOULD GO AFTER THOSE FOUR COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY. COCONSPIRATORS VERY QUICKLY.>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY?>>HOW ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY? DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN DELAIN MAXWELL HAS BEEN WRITTEN UP OVER AND OVER AS THE UP OVER AND OVER AS THE COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN COCONSPIRATOR, RECRUITER, OFTEN THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE THE TRAINER OF MANY OF THESE YOUNG GIRLS. YOUNG GIRLS. IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN IT IS REPORTED THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW WHERE SHE IS. KNOW WHERE SHE IS. THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER THIS IS A WOMAN WHOSE FATHER DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING DIED A SWINDLER, CON MAN, OWING OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. OVER 43 BANKS $4 BILLION. A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN A, HOW DID THIS WOMAN MAINTAIN HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY HER SOCIALITE STATUS AND, B, WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T IS IT THAT PEOPLE STILL DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS? KNOW WHERE SHE IS? I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I COULDN’T LIVE OFF THE GRID. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER. I DON’T THINK YOU COULD EITHER.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT I CAN’T REALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING I WOULD HOPE THEY ARE KEEPING TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD TRACK OF HER AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS HAVE BEEN LOOKING WHERE SHE IS EVERY SECOND. EVERY SECOND. SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I SHE DOES HAVE DUAL CITIZENSHIP I UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS UNDERSTAND WITH THE UK AND IS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS ALSO ASSOCIATED IN RECENT YEARS WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. WITH A LOT OF OCEANOGRAPHERS. SHE HAD A NONPROFIT SHE HAD A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. ORGANIZATION. SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SO THERE’S ALSO BEEN SOME SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN SPECULATION THAT SHE COULD EVEN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN BE ON A SUBMARINE SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN. WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS? I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS I MEAN, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE PRETTY SHARP THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO EVADE IT THIS LONG. TO EVADE IT THIS LONG.>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO>>IF BILL BARR WANTS THEM TO THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE FBI CAN FIND THIS WOMAN. THE QUESTION IS DOES HE? THE QUESTION IS DOES HE?>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS>>BILL BARR HAS SAID HE IS OUTRAGED. OUTRAGED. CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS CAMERON, TAKE ME INSIDE OF THIS PRISON. PRISON. IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER IS THERE ANY WAY SOMEONE OTHER THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE THAN EPSTEIN COULD HAVE ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A ORCHESTRATED HIS DEATH OR HAD A HAND IN IT? HAND IN IT? BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US SITTING HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE. HERE, IT SIMPLY MAKES NO SENSE.>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME>>WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE JUST SAY THIS IS JUST A TERRIBLE EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. EVENT THAT’S HAPPENED. I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR I THINK IT IS A BLACK EYE ON OUR ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM ENTIRE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE VICTIMS AND UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF UPHOLDING OUR SYSTEMS OF JUSTICE. JUSTICE. THESE KINDS OF THINGS — THESE KINDS OF THINGS –>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE>>WHAT IF A BLACK GUY IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE LESSER OF TWO EVILS AND THOSE ARE SAYING, YEP. ARE SAYING, YEP. THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT THIS WILL BE HUMILIATING BUT AT LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF LEAST WE’LL GET THIS GUY OUT OF THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD THE PICTURE BECAUSE HE COULD HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK HURT US WAY MORE THAN A BLACK EYE? EYE?>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO>>THIS IS CERTAINLY GOING TO FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. FUEL THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE VERY FRANKLY, IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS UNFOLDS. UNFOLDS. BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING BUT I PREDICT WHAT WE’RE GOING TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT TO SEE IN THE END IS THAT EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO EPSTEIN WAS PROBABLY ABLE TO CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL CHARM OR MANIPULATE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO HEALTH PROFESSIONAL INTO BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER BELIEVING THAT HE WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS A THREAT TO HIMSELF AND WAS THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE THEREFORE PULLED OFF THE SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT EPSTEIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A CELL WITH ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, ANOTHER INMATE TO HELP, PERHAPS, KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. KEEP HIM FROM KILLING HIMSELF. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. I SEE THAT VERY DIFFERENTLY. FROM A CORRECTIONAL FROM A CORRECTIONAL ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN ADMINISTRATOR PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE YOU TAKE AN INDIVIDUAL LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHO IS A CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, WHO IS EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A EXTREMELY HIGH PROFILE, A BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO BILLIONAIRE CONNECTED TO VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL VIRTUALLY EVERYBODY, TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY, FOR AN INMATE TO KILL SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN SOMEBODY LIKE JEFFREY EPSTEIN VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF VERY FRANKLY WOULD BE A BADGE OF HONOR. HONOR. IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND IN THE SUB CULTURE OF JAILS AND PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY PRISONS THIS IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPE TO BE TAKEN OUT. TAKEN OUT. I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN I BELIEVE HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. SINGLE CELLED THE ENTIRE TIME. ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT ONCE HE HAD HIS SUICIDE ATTEMPT IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY IF THIS IS PROVEN, THEN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE PERSPECTIVE HE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE REMAINED ON SUICIDE WATCH THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT ENTIRE TIME HE WAS IN THAT FACILITY. FACILITY. HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE HE WAS A PRETRIAL, PRESENTENCE FACILITY. FACILITY. HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON HE THEREFORE WOULD NOT BE ON SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. SUICIDE WATCH INDEFINITELY. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE AS SOON AS HIS CASE WERE TO BE ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF ADJUDICATED THE BUREAU OF PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED PRISONS WOULD HAVE DESIGNATED HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE HIM VERY QUICKLY TO THE INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF INSTITUTION OF SERVICE OF SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH SENTENCE MUCH LIKE THEY DID WITH GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. GUZMAN, SHORTY GUZMAN. AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS AS SOON AS HIS CASE WAS ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADJUDICATED OFF HE WENT TO THE ADX. ADX. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I SEE WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY WHERE THE AGENCY WENT WRONG VERY FRANKLY. FRANKLY.>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR>>JULIE, WHERE DOES YOUR REPORTING GO FROM HERE? REPORTING GO FROM HERE?>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING>>I’M GOING TO KEEP FOLLOWING THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE THE TRAIL OF EVIDENCE THAT WE’VE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DUG UP SO FAR WITH THESE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE DOCUMENTS THAT CAME OUT THE OTHER DAY. OTHER DAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, A LOT OF THREADS TO FOLLOW. THREADS TO FOLLOW. THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW THERE ARE NEW NAMES AS WE KNOW OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I ANOTHER SO WE’LL START LOOKING I THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE THINK CLOSER AT ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK DOCUMENTS AND ALSO I THINK EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS EVERYBODY IS HOPING THAT PERHAPS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS MORE PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THIS WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING — WILL COME FORWARD, MEANING –>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>YOU THINK THEY WILL?>>I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW. YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM WOULD BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME BEING GONE, MOST OF THEM TOLD ME THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK THEY DIDN’T WANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A BECAUSE EITHER THEY HAD A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT WITH HIM IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY IF THEY WORKED FOR HIM OR THEY WERE AFRAID. WERE AFRAID. NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, NOW WITH HIM GONE I THOUGHT, WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL MAYBE NOW, YOU KNOW, HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE EFFECTIVE IS THE NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? AGREEMENT GOING TO REALLY BE? NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY NOW WITH ALL THESE CONSPIRACY THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEORIES FLOATING OUT THERE, THEY COULD VERY WELL BE AFRAID

Jeffrey Epstein's connection to President Trump and Alex Acosta, explained | Just The FAQs



well-known philanthropist and crony of celebrities Nobel laureates and presidents alike Jeffrey Epstein has been charged with sex trafficking girls as young as 14 according to the indictment the hedge fund manager intentionally sought out minors for sexual exploitation and knew that many of his victims were under the age of 18 but this is not the first encounter Jeffrey Epstein has had with the sex crimes unit in 2005 the Palm Beach Police Department later joined by the FBI investigated Epstein after a woman claimed her stepdaughter was paid $300 to strip and massage Epstein at the time Epstein's legal team included Kenneth Starr who was the special counsel on the four-year investigation that led to Bill Clinton's impeachment and Alan Dershowitz who served on a Jay Simpsons defense team in 1995 the legal team negotiated with the US Attorney of southern Florida Alex Acosta granting a non-prosecution agreement for Epstein and others involved in exchange Epstein registered as a sex offender and was convicted of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution which resulted in a 13 month jail sentence where Epstein spent 16 hours a day outside of prison at his nearby office Acosta who has since gone on to become US Secretary of Labor under President Trump has come under intense scrutiny for the non-prosecution deal which has been called the deal of a lifetime Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein have a history together as well having known each other since the early 1990s the New York Times reports that Trump hosted Epstein for a private party in 1992 that included dozens of women brought in tomorrow Lago to entertain just Trump and Epstein Trump claims that he and Epstein had a falling out and haven't spoken in 15 years federal prosecutors are now urging other possible victims to contact the FBI

Jeffrey Epstein Arrest Has DC’s Powerful Leaders Shaking In Fear



A lot of powerful people in America are shaking
with fear after billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was arrested this past weekend. The convicted pedophile has already served
an insulting lenient prison sentence. But his latest arrest could land him behind
bars forever, we hope. Joining me to talk about this and why so many
of DC's most powerful people are terrified is Farron Cousins from the Trial Lawyer Magazine. Farron, let me start off by saying this, you
were covering this story when nobody else was. The, the, our, our journalist was to cover
the story. We were talking about the story before anybody
would talk about it and what did we find out? We found out they wouldn't talk about it because
Bill Clinton's name was all over it. Just along with a bunch of insiders. Trump's name now comes up. Interesting. Interesting. I gotta, I gotta ask you this. The Trump message now is, well look, I was
so, this is Trump, I was so offended by Epstein that we don't allow him at Mar-a-lago anymore. I mean, you, did you follow that part of the
story? I did see that. He said, was apparently a decade ago. You can't come here. Is that true? Look, it's it, it's not. We know it's not, I mean, obviously and Epstein
actually recruited one of the girls, a 15 year old who was working at Mar-a-lago at
the time. Trump has always up until now, had wonderful
things to say about Epstein. You know, remarked one time he likes to party
with younger girls. He's a fun guy. But Bill Clinton also 26 trips on this guy's
plane over the years. I mean, they, this, this story. And of course Alex Acosta, labor secretary
was the prosecutor. Worked out that sweetheart deal. This touches everybody. This is not a left or right issue. This is a corrupt people. No, well how about Christine Pelosi saying
today. Hey Democrats, you better hold on because
you're going to have a lot of people who you really love being brought into this mess. Number One, Bill Clinton 20, is it 26 trips
that he made. 26 trips. To Lolita Island, I guess they call it, where
all the girls would be taken. Oh, and, and other places. Other continents on this jet. Yeah. Yes. France. Africa. Africa. Okay. So let's talk about what happened here. What happened is the Fed's again, dropped
the ball. Now we, here's what we see time and time again. Unless it's low hanging fruit and it's a slam
dunk case, the Fed's don't get involved. It's almost as if their prosecutors don't
have the ability to do what a trial lawyer should do, so they pass on the case. In this situation, it was more than that. In this situation the Fed's absolutely knew
that the names at the top of the list were people like Bill Clinton and they had been
told that. They had been given these names. They understood exactly who was involved. They didn't want to take the political heat,
so they took a pass on it. Did I get that right? Absolutely. And, and listen, that's the part of the story
that I think most of the media has completely ignored. Not just that he got the sweetheart deal,
but why? Because none of that makes any sense. Just looking from the outside. What was it, 13 months in prison he got for
sex with underage girls. Got to leave every day for 10 to 12 hours. Basically they said your sentence is stay
in this crappy hotel for 13 months. Yeah. Well, it was a, it was a private wing of the
jail. Right. Where he would come in for six hours a day. He had telephone, fax machines, telephone,
a television. Had, It was just like an apartment that they
gave Epstein. Now let me run this by you because you covered
it a little bit, I think early on. You were, I remember when you came up with,
with the, the list, it was the, the air, the pilot has to keep a manifest of who flies
and when they fly. So you did a show, what was it five years
ago on that manifest. You showed the names of the people that were
on and it was almost as if the rest of the media was sound asleep on this. Why? Because Bill Clinton is their darling and
Hillary Clinton is their darling and they knew what kind of impact that would have on
the election. Talk about that. What you had early on, the information that
you got from, by the way, the lawyer who broke this was Brad Edwards. It wasn't David Boies. You're seeing David Boies. David Boies did not break this story. Brad Edwards, a law, a lawyer down in South
Florida, along with Miami Herald, he did a superb job. But Brad Edwards is the guy that got this
all started. Again, the guys a brilliant trial lawyer down
in Miami. He's not getting any credit for what he's
done here. Right. He was representing victims several years
ago, you know, trying to get this reopened, trying to get some justice for these women
that Epstein had abused over the years and allowed other people to abuse. But as far as these flight logs go, we saw
there was a one flight in particular was Bill Clinton, another individual and then two girls. That's it. Yeah. And… In other words, two girls on the plane, on
the plane with Bill Clinton and another person and Epstein going to what I call Lolita Island,
where they have sex with underage children. And they made the special stop to pick up
those two girls. The person who was traveling with Bill Clinton
left the plane, brought the two girls, got them on the plane, plane takes off. We don't know what happens. We don't know who these girls are there. They're essentially, I, I don't mean this
derogatory, but, but they're nobodies and nobody's don't get on private jets with Bill
Clinton. Well, here's the way it's characterized. They had parents that weren't keeping up with
their kids. Okay? The kids leave school, by the way, in their
school uniforms, I mean dressed up. Some of them were actually in school uniforms. And, and so here's what, here's what they
have to overcome to defend themselves. It's not just one person that's saying this
went on. It's five, six, seven people who were eye
witnesses to the what was going. Dershowitz. Let's talk about Dershowitz just a little
bit. Dershowitz acts like, well I want all this
unsealed and as, as if he was carrying the sword for unsealing. No that doesn't sell cause he's the one that
got it sealed. He's the one that talked a judge who sealed
this from the American public. Like so many of these federal judges do, the
state judges do. It's a huge mistake. That, the American public has a right to understand
what happens when a pharmaceutical company is killing somebody with dead, with a deadly
pharmaceutical. When a corporation is killing an environment
with, with their toxins or when a criminal like Epstein commits the kind of awful kind
of conduct he does. We have a right to know. But judges are this idea of, no, we're going
to be the gatekeeper with what we allow and don't allow. This judge sealed this because Dershowitz
asked him to. Well and Dershowitz has taken a lot of heat
over the last few years for, for some reason defending Donald Trump at every turn. And Dershowitz the past has not been a conservative
by any stretch of the imagination. But for him to come out and always defend
Trump. And now it makes a little more sense when
you consider the fact that Dershowitz himself by some of these women has been accused of
engaging, you know, in these activities. He is also somebody, they have said, this
guy, I walked in on him with this underage girl. There's been no charges against him right
now. It's just accusations. Okay. So what did, what do the feds know? The feds know and what they knew way back,
a decade ago. They knew that there wasn't just one person
making these. The feds knew. The federal prosecutors knew it wasn't just
one person. It was five, six and seven people. They had evidence that was very clear evidence,
pictures of these girls in other countries with Epstein, with all of these folks that
are going to be uncovered here. They understood exactly what they were up
against and they didn't have the guts. They didn't have the courage to do what they
were supposed to do. Acosta, who now is a Trump appointee. Acosta was the guy who made the decision to
make all this go away, didn't he? Yes. He was the prosecutor in this case. He worked out the sweetheart deal, gave Epstein,
you know, the 13 month, you know, sort of prison sentence I guess you'd call it. Because if you leave most of the day, you're
not really in jail. But when we look at the, the new charges right
now that New York came up with, you know, thankfully just in the last few days, the
amount of news that has come out has been astounding. What's out there? Let's talk about it. One of the latest things we discover is that
Epstein in a locked safe in his New York penthouse had cd’s with the, they had it said young
and then the girl's name plus another name. Now, right now we don't know who those other
names are, but these are in a locked safe. They contain naked images of these girls and
we're… With somebody. Yeah, we're going to find out who these people
are. That's one of the reasons this is so important. Okay. So… Not just getting them off the street. So Epstein, Epstein basically had this for
black male. He says, if you push me too far, I'm going
to release this. We're going to see who the release of these
people are going to be. I gotta tell ya, a federal judge understands
now, do not seal this or if you do, you do it at your own peril. Because this idea of a federal judge sua sponte
making a decision that, oh, I can't let this out. It's going to harm somebody. You realize that the Fed's, in this situation,
the federal prosecutors argued to the judge, don't unseal this old information because
if you do, somebody is going to be hurt by it. Really, really? Well they knew who was going to be hurt by
it. Epstein knew who was going to be hurt by it. Epstein has this in recordings now. He has it in recordings. Those recordings are going to tell us a lot. Where, you know, where does this case go? I, I mean I see it going in different ways. I see Epstein's business being looked into
whether or not he was legitimate, you know, whether he was legitimate even about how he
was handling all of his investment business. I think that's going to open up a whole new
can of worms. Where else do you see this going? Well, right now what we're looking at is,
this is obviously and he's been charged with at this point, conspiracy. There is no way this man could have carried
all of this out by himself. We know some others were definitely involved. Maxwell, for example. Yeah, Maxwell who acted as his madam. Went out, recruited the girls, basically turned
it into this horrid pyramid scheme where those girls would then have to recruit other girls
to be his sex slaves, is what he called them. But this is going to stretch far and wide
and we are going to find out whose names are on those cd's. Let, let, let me tell you… Somebody's gotta leak it, even if they try
to seal it. Oh, it's going to be. We've got to know, we have to know. It's going to be leaked, even if the Fed's
don't allow it, even if a judge says no, it's going to be leaked. Okay, so here, here's what we know. Here's what the Fed's new. Farmer, a woman by the name of Farmer had
been basically held captive on their property. Maxwell, this, madam Maxwell and Epstein were
accused of raping the woman and holding her prisoner. She goes to, she tells the story. It's like a big yawn. The prosecutors down in, the state prosecutors
choose to do nothing. The sheriff's department does nothing. Later the, the, the, the, the sheriff himself
comes out and says, look, this whole thing's wired. It's wired to protect Epstein. We can't even do an investigation that we
knew that we needed to do because of the political conflict. Farron we've got to cover this story. I hope you'll go to New York. Let's, let's do it on, let's do it on site. Cover what's going on day to day. Thank you for joining me. Absolutely.

NXIVM leader Keith Raniere found guilty on all sex-trafficking charges



a jury in New York has found the leader of a self-help group guilty of seven counts of sex trafficking and racketeering Keith Ranieri attracted some high-profile followers to his group nexium including actresses and one of the heirs to the Seagrams fortune but prosecutors say the group was more like a cult that had a secret society of sex slaves some former recruits testified they were coerced into having sex with Ranieri they were also kept on starvation diets and even branded with his initials Ranieri was revered by the group as the smartest man in the world joining me now is Josh Bloch and josh has been following this trial closely in fact this whole case closely he is the host and co-producer of the CBC podcast uncover escaping nexium Josh welcome to you thank you let's start a little bit at the beginning what was this group and how did they get so much control over these women so nexium claimed to be this self-help self self improvement organization and they offered a host of expensive workshops that you could take that you would spend $5,000 and take their intensive programs to learn to you know reach help reach your personal and professional goals as people climbed higher in this organization and got more involved in it they started to become privy to another side of the organization eventually what became the focus of the FBI's investigation was this secret sorority a secret group of a women's group within the organization that the women said that they were being instructed in that group to have sex with binary and how did Keith Ranieri get people to agree to that well it's a long process and you know this is part of our investigation is to understand how is it that you can sign up one day for a self-help program and then you know have however many years later you are obeying commands to have sex with apron area to get branded on your body with his initials it's a slow process he was able to build trust with people he has a remarkable charisma but the group also recruited we high-profile and powerful successful people so they could use that as a calling card and say hey come join us look the the heir to the Bronfman fortune is here we have the son of a Mexican president we have famous actors here as well so people were drawn because of the community he created around him there was also a lot of secrecy so you might have joined and taken some courses in the group and not known what was happening in the inner circle in fact many high-ranking members of the organization who were in it for years didn't realize what was happening in the inner circles of this group that that keeps Ranieri was you know having sex with underaged girls that he was committing wire fraud and an immigration fraud and and you know forced labor yeah what were some of the things that he was doing give us some examples well so one of the remarkable things many remarkable things that have come out in this trial and this is a secretive group so our window in it for so long has only come through the few people that were brave enough to come forward and share their story in this trial we've heard from a dozen former members of the group one of them a Mexican national said that she was confined to a room for two years that they had withheld her documents she was not able to leave the room let alone the country because she committed an ethical breach she had a crush on someone that was not urinary we also learned that he was grooming underage girls in fact this woman who was confined her sister was in a sexual relationship with each Ranieri when she was just 15 years old and in fact we learned in the trial that he's very not only conducted you know was engaged in this kind of illegal activity but he tried to normalize it within the community he spent a lot of time you know baking into the curriculum that people were learning things like it's you know why it's okay for a grown man to have sex with an underage girl kind of moral relativism that he was was astounding to his community and then you know the focus of the FBI's investigation is around this secret sorority the secret women's group that it turned out he despite his claims that again no involvement but involvement with it with this organization he actually built this structure that essentially enslaved women in order to join it you had to hand over collateral to be part of the group in the form of nude photos false confessions explicit videos and once these women were a part of the group they started to they were instructed some of them to have sex with Keith Murray and we heard testimony about how the these women felt like if they did not follow through with that instruction they were afraid their collateral would be released so it was very emotional testimony these women were were terrified they didn't know what to do they felt really stuck and and you know didn't realize what they were getting into when they signed up for this self-help group so so Josh how did this finally get busted who blew the whistle and how did police take him down it's so interesting you know as we investigated this story we discovered that there has been a long line of women that have been leaving this group going to authorities going to the media it took a long time for people to pay attention the media had written some articles about it the authorities did nothing until Sarah Edmondson who was this you know someone I actually happened to know from childhood and there's a central focus of our podcast she came forward to the media claiming that she had been branded on her body that she was part of the secret sorority that she had Keith greeneries initials on her body she was on the front page of the New York Times in October of 2017 and on the heels of that article the FBI launched their investigation and they said they launched the investigation because of that article because she had come forward and the organization very quickly unraveled Keith Bernie Reed fled to Mexico he was arrested a few months later and as were five other high-ranking members of the organization and the whole thing essentially collapsed after about 20 years in existence okay so what happens now he's been found guilty so what happens now so Keith Murray will be will be sentenced in the end of September there's the five other members who were as co-accused to all cleated guilty leading up to the trial who will now be that's between July and September as well and and you know essentially nexium it is done so what happens now is that the people who were victims of this organization will have a long road ahead of them to try and reckon with what happened and go through probably a lengthy healing process all right josh bloch host and co-producer of the cbc podcast uncover escaping nexium Josh thank you thank you