An Insignificant Man (Feature Length)


For the past seven years He had been working here
as a land officer Helping farmers claim
their stolen land back The politicians are
like the mafia here Brijlal had complained
to the police But the police
took no action They ran the jeep over
him again and again Crushing him
into little pieces The family thinks they
are next Can we get the supreme
court to intervene? Father knew that they
would kill him I was there too
and tried to stop them They drove after me,
so I ran for my life And I went to
the police But it was too late – Were there any
other witnesses? There were
some women But they were all
too terrified Do you have documents to
support your father’s work? – Yes, we do Should we put up
posters all over town? People need to know
what is happening here – Everybody knows – There are plenty
of such cases There are no
official eye-witnesses Without a witness,
the law can’t do anything The eye witnesses are
all too scared to testify The law only punishes
common people Not politicians Long years ago We made a tryst
with destiny At the stroke of the
midnight hour When the world sleeps India will awake To life and freedom Big story we’re
breaking tonight It’s certainly very disturbing
what is emerging Multi-billion dollar
telecom scam $287 billion coal scam Dozens of companies
managed to corner billions of dollars using proxy
political connections which cut across
party lines All parties have come together
to fool the country The biggest names in politics,
in corporate India and the bureaucracy It seems like we’re living
in the age of scams It seems that our
political establishment is steeped in corruption All our anti-corruption
agencies are compromised Can we expect this parliament
to pass a strong Anti-Corruption law? We are being looted,
we are being robbed We dared to raise our
voice against corruption And we drafted an
Anti-Corruption Bill The Anti-Corruption Bill is to be
tabled in parliament next week The Anti-Corruption Bill
is rubbish! – We won’t let it pass! – Please behave! Unless All the people of this country
take to the streets on 16th August There is no hope If the Egyptian people can
come together at Tahrir Square to overthrow
their government All we’re asking for
is a new law The path he has chosen To impose his draft of a
bill upon parliament Is totally misconceived And fraught with
grave consequences For our parliamentary democracy Are you saying that they
should contest elections? Is that what you’re challenging
them effectively? Absolutely, you’re right I want them to
come into politics I’ll never fight
an election I have a few dreams
for this country Anti-Corruption Bill
is one of them Good judicial system
is another Electoral reforms and
decentralization of political power So that participatory
democracy is there If anyone knows how the Indian
political party system functions It’s Yogendra Yadav Yogendra Yadav, then
give us the solution Having reached this point and having
reached some kind of a dead end I think the only
way forward is Political in the more
obvious sense of the term Which is by forming a
political organization By contributing to
a political alternative Let’s move on to the big
news story of the day Arvind Kejriwal will fight
in the Delhi Elections A political party of honest people
has no chance in the country You will all lose
your deposits So, the big question
we are posing Can Kejriwal really succeed
as a politician? We need to build an
organization first Ten volunteers in every
neighbourhood in Delhi And one person to
supervise them This is our top priority Now tell me how many volunteers
each of you can find Get back to me on this Give me your names
– Ramesh Pandey What do you do, Ramesh? – I am a manager
at Barclays Does that mean you will
quit your job to work here? – Yes I will.
I believe in you – I’m a huge admirer! The way you fearlessly deliver your
speeches is really inspiring I mean such a small man exposing
such powerful people! You’re doing a great job – Give me your number If you need any help,
come meet me I’m here every Sunday
– Every Sunday Yes, in the morning You don’t need
an appointment – Sir, I have a project Every year we help 1001 girls
from poor families get married As charity,
there is no fee Look, how long can
we depend on charity? First we exploit
the poor and then we make
generous donations How will marriage
help them? Shouldn’t we look to increase
their income instead? To empower people
by changing the system? But changing
the system will take a long time I’m sorry I disagree
with you on this Charity is the easy
thing to do No one wants to
change the system “It will take too long” So what? We need to
start somewhere Leave charity to
the rich So don’t include
me in charity But I’ll be there if you
need blood, sweat and tears [Volunteer] People don’t
want to listen to us How do we assure them that
we are not like other parties? And how do we convince
them to support us? We were all part of the extraordinary
protests two years ago Back then, none of us
had imagined joining a political party
– True Millions of people took
to the streets They were tired
of corrupt politics They wanted to shake up
the establishment and throw out the emperors
and their crowns There are also
questions like “What if you don’t
get enough seats?” “Which party would
you ally with?” Our stand is very
clear on this We can say to anyone
who asks such questions “We promise that under
no circumstances will we form alliances
with any political party and compromise
on our principles” More importantly We will bring decison-making
to the public Does your road need
repair work? What should be the cost? And were the repairs
satisfactory? All such documents will
be open to the public Yogendra Yadav,
I have to say that I was surprised when you came on
board with Arvind Kejriwal For the last twenty years I have been associated with
peoples’ movements – Which wanted to go
to a political alternative? Not just wanted to,
they actually tried but it didn’t make it
because it was not viable – But do you think
Arvind Kejriwal is that person? Arvind has energy he has
out of box thinking He has the ability to cut through various
things and come to the core – He also has a reputation of being
extremely intolerant of other people’s views The extent to which
you bring energy is the extent to which you
drive the movement So those who bring energy
also give leadership I have a question
– Go ahead On election day will you arrange transport
for the voters? Look, we don’t have money If you can all arrange
something for yourselves… We are fighting the
same battle So do the other parties
arrange transportation? – They hire a cab for us
– Right [Volunteer] Go in their cab
but vote for us instead – I would rather not – Try walking this time, sir
– Huh? – It’ll be a satisfying walk
– I’ll try this time We can all book a
cab together Don’t we book cabs
when we go out? Elections are much
more important We don’t, but many people
accept money for votes – Political parties buy them off – They distribute alcohol
and money just before elections [Volunteer] Take their bribes but
vote for Kejriwal instead It’s a secret vote so
they won’t find out No, that’s just wrong We should honour our promise One shouldn’t lie [Journalist]
That’s ridiculous ma, Where is the honour
in accepting bribes? I swear that as long as I live I will never take a bribe nor will I give a bribe I swear that from today onwards I will never accept
liquor or money in exchange
for my vote I see a lot of you
aren’t committing Because alcohol is
too hard to give up Everyone here loves
their drink You’ve been a three
term Chief Minister You’re completing fifteen years
as Chief Minister of Delhi So far your opponents from the
BJP have been lacklustre This time around there is a person
who has come out of nowhere And so the space that he’s occupied
becomes extremely important What is his status? Except that he keeps on
talking about himself And then he changes tracks He said we’re only interested in the
Anti-Corruption movement Now he’s entered politics So what is their policy?
What are they going to do? People may find
it interesting to see someone
enter politics But when it comes to
selecting governments People are serious about it They just don’t get carried away [Radio]♪92.7 FM – Inside Delhi’s Heart♪ “Satyagraha” – A film inspired by the Anti-Corruption
protests is releasing today Superstar Ajay Devgn is playing
Arvind Kejriwal in the film Do watch this one guys You, and this entire system are corrupt to your rotting core
– Shut up! The people have decided to
join forces and fight corruption If the country’s future is
shrouded in darkness then ours is hopeless, too This is why we need to
change this system Not by protesting
but by entering politics Let’s gather young idealists
to form an honest party Everyone will support us! Mr. Kejriwal How was the film? Did you find it similar
to your story? Well, the film arrives at the
same conclusion that we did after
the protests Do you think your path is justified
because the film celebrates it? Do you disagree? But the film also raises
questions about indiscipline and about how crowds
never make rational decisions Are these issues important?
– Yes, they are important The film does answer
these questions You talk about
indiscipline In the film, a family has been
fighting for seven years to get its land back from
the government What choice do such
people have? You expect them to
be “disciplined”? Are you implying lawlessness
is a solution? Who makes these laws?
Whom do they serve? Do they exist only to serve
the powerful? The law is meant to
protect us, not them Now the biggest
question is will people actually
vote for him? If Arvind Kejriwal has won
over the people of Delhi Will they win the
election for him? We’ll ask him these questions
after the break Can I talk to you?
– Huh? I have come across some
sensitive information It’s in these documents What are these documents?
– Government papers I have a letter here An informer brought this
to us yesterday This government
has terrible luck All their secret letters end
up in our hands Who here is troubled by
rising electricity prices? All of you? This poor woman has been slapped
with a massive electricity bill Why this sudden
hike in prices? Why is electricity
so expensive? We are here to
tell you why Sit down for two minutes Why has electricity
become so expensive? Let’s go back to 2002 Electricity was
privatized that year Sheila Dikshit had promised us
that these private companies would put an end
to electricity theft and hence reduce our
electricity prices Did she promise this or not?
– Yes she did It’s been 11 years since Electricity theft is now rare
but has electricity become cheaper? – No In fact, our bills have
tripled since Do you know who decides
electricity prices in Delhi? DERC is a government
regulatory body It stands for Delhi Electricity
Regulatory Commission In 2010, the DERC chairman
was a man named Berjinder Singh The power companies
went to him with reported losses
of $135 million and demanded a price hike Berjinder Singh asked to
see their accounts He was shocked at
what he discovered The companies had suffered
no losses at all On the contrary, the companies had
made profits worth $600 million Berjinder Singh immediately decided to
slash electricity prices by 23% He was going to issue this order
on 5th May, 2010 Sheila Dikshit wrote to Berjinder Singh
on the previous night And told him to stop
the order immediately This is the letter she wrote Where did all the
money go? It has all gone
to the corporations! And what did they
do with the money? With his eyes firmly set
on the Delhi elections Arvind Kejriwal has now
made power and water His poll planks apart
from corruption We are the best power producing
state in the country And it still remains
the cheapest Mr. Kejriwal
has taken it up I don’t think the common
man believes it Are we heading now for
a way of fighting corruption which is about
naming and shaming Putting names out there and
stating the charges For a very long time all the
main political parties of this country have followed a code of silence Where you don’t talk about
political collusion And we won’t talk about
conflict of interest You don’t talk about
one company I wouldn’t talk
about another In democracy such codes
need to be shattered A rank outsider has come
and shattered that How is everything? Hello – They began
beating Akhilesh And we tried our best
to protect him We didn’t fight back – They were carrying chains The police was there too?
– The police just watched One of the policemen
took off his name tag and handed his own stick
to one of the goons Some of our volunteers were
watching from a distance We only tried to
protect ourselves and waited for
help to arrive After that we protested in
front of the police station Don’t expect anything
from the police The police is controlled
by the politicians And they have
all the power Our domain is amongst
the people We have to draw them
to our battleground You have to make
this incident public This has to end Last night at 10:30 PM
in Model Town Our volunteer Akhilesh was
attacked with rods and chains His head was
severely injured They think violence
will break our spirit – No! Never! If violence is their solution I am ready to submit myself
to their rods and chains This is exactly the kind of
politics we want to end We must stand up against
their repression Or else… Thank you Unless we act they will continue
to trample us I have decided to go on
an indefinite hunger strike I will survive only on water Until the people of Delhi
show courage and stop paying their
unfair electricity bills Our volunteers are
working with the belief that it’s possible
to end corruption Don’t be afraid 112,000 people have
signed letters of dissent Have faith, we will
only grow stronger If the electricity or water
officials come knocking drive them away Who owns electricity and water?
Sheila Dikshit or us? Sheila Dikhsit’s or ours? – They belong to us!
It’s ours! It belongs to us
not the corporations We must take back
what is ours – Delhi’s heart will burn until,
You take back your unfair bills Delhi’s heart will burn until
You take back your unfair bills I hoped and prayed for
Sheila Dikshit’s victory But who knew she would snatch
the bread from our mouths And deprive us
of basics Over 400,000 have
joined us in this fight Make it ‘In this struggle’ It’s done, tweet it! I’ve been overcharged
again and again But our last bill
crossed the limit Authorities promised to
check for errors But did nothing [Congress]
The people of Delhi have seen us work hard
for the last 14 years We have won three
times in a row People have
chosen us – Why did Sheila Dikshit
write a letter to DERC when they were
about to slash prices? Do you have an answer? [Congress] No, there is no
such letter [AAP] We have the signed
letter with us – DERC is independent! – Can I make a point? Don’t turn this into
a shouting match – I’m not shouting
I have a loud voice -That is all the news
we have for today – Thanks, brother! Nice to meet you Manish
– Same here Your associate Kumar
is an old friend Yes, he’s told us
everything about you So, what of it? In politics, everybody has stories – The curtain has been lifted
– We are all in the same boat You’re an infant in politics,
still learning to walk Don’t hunt what
you can’t kill People have started
noticing us The other parties
ignored these issues But only because
of the strike electricity and water will
steer the elections The electricity bill is $900
and water bill is $60 I don’t have that
kind of money The calculation within the party
is that 1 million signatures would mean touching
4 million potential voters How many people have
we reached so far? We have all the data
on our systems Give me an estimate From 13 neighbourhoods we have about…
– 600,000 people? We are with you If anything happens to you
we will end our lives too We promise you
We will fight for you – We support you Over a million
people have joined us in our protest against
Sheila Dikshit Today we are one step
closer to our goal I have decided to
end my fast These 1,049,300 protest letters reflect the anger of
the people of Delhi The letters hold Sheila Dikshit’s
corrupt government responsible for inflated electricity
and water bills These letters were to be
received by her today Instead they were
received by her staff We asked her secretary,
‘Will she not meet us?’ He replied,
‘The minister is sleeping’ I’ve seen you on TV The Congress Vice President
was on TV 24×7 Performing for the camera But all they got was 27 seats
in Uttar Pradesh Elections aren’t
won on television Journalists were confident
they would win at least 100 I estimated 30 seats
out of 403 And they won 27 – How many will we
win in Delhi? I’ll tell you when the
time comes Let’s focus on the
job at hand [Volunteer]
We’ll definitely win Not yet Not right now Our credibility is our
biggest strength Our candidates must be clean
– Yes, all 70 of them One bad candidate and
everything falls apart 16 Congress representatives 9 BJP representatives have charges of murder
and rape against them I promise that if any
of our candidates are found guilty of a
criminal charge We will revoke
their candidature A corrupt person cannot
enter the parliament And I challenge the BJP &
the Congress to stop nominating
corrupt candidates [Anchor] The BJP’s representative
on our session this afternoon Member of the National Executive
of the BJP – Mr. Sanjay Kaul Alright! So the die is heavily
loaded against me Look we have established
a vast system We have an office in every
corner of the country It has taken us
a lifetime BJP is 50 years old Congress is over
100 years old The AAP will take
decades to catch up This is just how politics
works in this country – Boo!
– Trust me, this is how it is When I was younger I was also in love with
the idea of revolution But this is no place
for emotions It just doesn’t
work like that Someone once said,
“Revolutionaries make great lovers but they make lousy husbands” They are good for flings
but not for settling down Do you know any
good people? Don’t worry, you’re
not on trial – No sir, it’s not that I am asking you to simply
identify honest people In other parties candidates buy
their way into the system We are asking
our volunteers to find upright candidates – I’ve sent you a text message Please read it – What’s in it? They are my credentials
I am nominating myself I suggest we look for people
other than ourselves – How much time do
we have to find someone? There’s plenty of time We will not stop until we
find strong candidates – When you say
“strong candidate” do you mean
a rich person? No, wealth
isn’t a criterion – Or a local goon
capable of murder? Certainly not A strong candidate is someone
with deep community ties Someone who
people admire The food subsidy system
in Delhi has failed The government spends billions
of dollars on food subsidy But the
reality is bleak We filed information
petitions across Delhi This scared the subsidy
officials into doing their job People finally began
receiving food They tried to intimidate me I was physically attacked during
our food subsidy campaign – Aren’t you afraid
for your life? No I’m not afraid because somebody
has to do it [Reporter] The AAP has released
a list of selected candidates Joining us now
is Arvind Kejriwal Candidate profiles can be
found on our website We are going to ask
people for feedback – In my opinion one
of the biggest problems in political parties is
sycophancy and yes-men How can we prevent this? – If I am the sole decision
making authority Then there will be a
personality cult But in our party, volunteers will
have decision-making powers Volunteers will decide
their candidate Potential candidates will
now come up and speak I had never imagined
I’d join politics But a decade of grassroots
work with Arvind helped me understand
a few things For instance, while fighting
for food security They tried to
get us killed They tried to
buy us out We were offered obscene amounts
of money to back off We were able to resist them
only because of Arvind… I know he doesn’t
like being praised I am fighting elections
there’s no doubt about it But from which constituency
I haven’t made up my mind Three-time Chief Minister
Sheila Dikshit We join her now What is the AAP Their volunteers
are all outsiders Is it a party? Can it compare with
the BJP and the Congress? This election vote for the AAP – Very happy to meet you, sir
– Thanks Tell your friends and family We bring flowers of love,
not guns and ammunition Go ahead and punish
the guilty Go ahead and punish
the guilty But don’t think of all
Muslims as terrorists Sing with me! Let’s live together as
brothers and sisters Sing it! Sheila Dikshit won the last 3 elections
from the same constituency in Delhi I have decided to fight
these elections against Sheila Dikshit
on her home turf I will bear true
faith and allegiance To the Constitution of India As by law established And that I will uphold the
sovereignty and integrity of India Is there anything that can
obstruct my application? Most importantly the affidavit
should be filled completely Will you tell us if there are
any irregularities in the form? We’ve double checked
everything but… No, in case of a discrepancy
we’ll notify you right away Immediately?
Oh, that’s great We’ve gone over it several times
but you never know… A very nice cartoon has come
out today in the papers where I’m asking a journalist,
“What is Kejriwal’s stand?” We don’t understand The next panel shows
Kejriwal responding “What does she mean by saying
what is my stand? My stand is to stand
for the elections!” Madam, look up! There was a time When politicians went
door to door for votes But now money is
used as brute force We need to counter this Nothing can beat a good
door-to-door campaign Hello, I’m from the AAP Do you know our election symbol?
– Yes I do! What is it?
– The broom Have you heard
of the AAP? – Yes, Arvind Kejriwal! He’s a good man
– So will you support us? On voting day?
– Yes, of course Thank you They will spare
no expense You will see their posters
in every corner of the city You may not see
our posters But we’ll knock on each
and every door in Delhi Are we ready? – Yes, sir Sheila Dikshit will
lose this time We will win We’ve collected $300 in
ten minutes This is how we’ll fund
our election campaign Yes? Hello? I am on TV right now I can’t talk right now – We talk about the need
for transparency in politics But it does not exist
in our own party We want volunteers to have the final
word on candidate selection – Are you saying only their vote
decides the final candidate? – Yes, volunteers must decide the
final candidate… – No, wait What if I don’t agree with your
choice of candidate Can I then choose not to
campaign for that candidate? You’ve always said that the volunteers
will be the final judge – I never said I won’t have
a say in it… – No you did…
– Hang on The volunteers will
decide… right? – You are nothing
without us, sir Manoj, calm down Just like a
democracy right? In some areas we have
as few as 30 volunteers Let’s say there are
four candidates The first candidate
gets 8 votes The second,10
and third, 12 Should the person with
12 votes get the spot? Are they the strongest
candidate? How can 2 votes determine the
strength of a candidate And there should
be no deliberation? Is this
democracy? What have you reduced
democracy to? These are your
own words, sir You built this party to give
greater power to the people Greater power does not
mean absolute power The idea is to have a dialogue,
I need to have a say as well Then what about
our rights? Why are we
even voting? – Your right?
Yes – You think this
is your right? – Isn’t it? I am only asking Are you doing this
for your rights? I am curious – Yes absolutely
Okay – Don’t take our right
away from us, sir Does everyone
agree with him? – I agree with him Nobody is entitled
to anything If you think
candidacy is a right Leave immediately! And if you want
to broker power leave right now Everyone has their
own coterie You are all lobbying
for your friends Do not lie to yourselves There is a serious
conflict of interest I have no
such interests – The candidate selection
process has been compromised Please sit down This is not an inquisition,
why are you talking like this? – You’re just trying
to confuse us Please sit down Can you please stay? We aren’t done yet Don’t you think
that the party is drifting away
from its ideals? We need a clear
answer from you The party has gone back on its
promise of internal democracy Honestly, we’re not in a position to
follow internal democracy We’re trying to find
a middle ground We’re struggling to fully
realise our principles I sincerely apologise Will an apology
make this go away? In the political sphere,
such things do happen Our intent is sincere
Please trust us I believe anyone fighting
elections is corrupt Then we can’t complain when
our women get raped You worry about your women
I can protect mine Any other issues you feel
the government has ignored? Nobody can change
anything around here Right I am not talking about
the present You are clean
right now We’ll always be clean, sir
– Only time will tell Can we trust a
government that can’t ensure
our food security? No! You are our representative
it’s your duty to make sure
we are heard – Santosh is one of us
and understands our cause and bravely fights
for our rights We call on her to represent
us in the government Use the one with
the big crowds – This is a good shot – The flames look nice
in the dark “You have to fight
corruption to the finish… …and vote for the
broom symbol this time” – Where’s the
poetry in that? Why not read out the
entire candidate list too! A short essay on
each candidate Your poetry is confusing
“The broom will sweep away” The ad should have clearly said
‘Vote for Broom’ Instead, you wanted
to be poetic “The Broom will sweep away” You are not serious
about the movement You made us into intense
people and let yourself go Can’t believe I quit
my job for this Stop making me laugh Now this fight… I can’t dub with you
laughing continuously – Should I be more dramatic? I haven’t even
had dinner – Let it show
in your art The funny thing is people
think he doesn’t laugh at all You, the people, have to
take this fight to the finish Aam Aadmi Party
Election Symbol – the Broom What is the situation? Aam Aadmi Party activist
and candidate from Seemapuri Santosh Koli was
critically injured When a car hit her bike [Police Officer] Did she ever mention
receiving any threats? About 15 days ago,
we were at the market She seemed worried
so I asked her “Why are you upset?
Your campaign is going so well” She said “Some local goons have
threatened to kill me” “They want me to drop out” She was already critical
when she was brought here She was vomiting continuously
so we had to intubate her The next 24 hours
are very critical Only after that we’ll
be able to let you know Santosh started working
with me in 2001 She was just a kid And ever since, she’s been
a younger sister to me She fought for
food subsidies… We are with you, Arvind We will fight!
We will win! They may try to threaten us
They may try to crush us We won’t back down Keep fighting, Arvind
We are with you Please donate
whatever you can This party needs
your support – Her temperature jumped
to 226 degree fahrenheit It was unbelievable It means there’s a
brain haemorrhage She started
bleeding thereafter Neurosurgery
couldn’t do much Any attempts at
recovery were futile Santosh will live in
our hearts forever! Please make space
for her family Everyone else
please step back The battle for
Delhi has begun and while both the
Congress and the BJP continue to downplay the
potential threat from the AAP The fact is for the first
time Delhi will have a truly triangular
contest in the capital Congress Party will live forever! – All parties have kickstarted
their election campaign BJP’s national leader,
Narendra Modi will be speaking at a
massive rally in Delhi Victory to BJP! Mr. Narendra Modi! The Delhi State
elections… will herald… the BJP’s victory
march across India We’ve done countless
demonstrations We pleaded with them Petitioned them We’ve done countless
demonstrations Sorry – One more time – Say it with a
little smile… Right, so let
me rehearse Power has to be taken away
from the corrupt politicians And the common public
shall truly be the rulers This concept is often
missed by the public Decentralization
of political power I know you are talking
about Swaraj But as a concept… People don’t understand that
they are the real rulers Do it like this
Let’s come together… to transform politics to curb corruption – Let’s come together If you want to
end corruption – Let’s join hands if you
want to curb corruption Let’s come together
to curb corruption Your support is crucial
for our cause Okay – Roll please?
– Rolling – Please start, sir Greetings! My name is Arvind Kejriwal We didn’t join
politics to make money We’ve done countless
demonstrations I went on long
hunger strikes You and I both wish
to end corruption We need your support We need your vote We do not have the
money to experiment with this kind
of a video It’s not working
for many reasons You know I like
this idea of Arvind talking directly
to the audience But that intimate connection
we’re looking for is missing He’s very stiff! ♪We will get Congress back♪ ♪For a victorious Delhi!♪ – Do you think this ad will change
how people feel about you? Will this campaign work? Will it make people trust
the Congress again? Be patient, you will get your
answer on election day Wait and watch Come to the office right away
It’s Sanjay Singh – AAP candidate Shazia Ilmi has been caught
in a sting operation agreeing to
stage a protest in return for
campaign funds The sting operation claims
many AAP candidates were willing to do exactly what they accuse
their opponents of in return for money – Massive crisis at
Arvind Kejriwal’s AAP Just ahead of the
Delhi elections A sting operation
video which shows AAP members purportedly
accepting money contrary to their claims They will lose all political capital
built up in the last few months – Yogendra!
Sir! Sir! Will you come speak
on Times Now? [Anchor] What’s going on,
Yogendra Yadav? We thought this is a
party with a difference your candidates
were different This is really low level – Yogendra, the surveys
that you had conducted showed massive
trends in AAP’s favour in several parts
of Delhi With this
sting operation Will the AAP survive? These tapes are edited
and clipped together We wish to see the
unedited versions We request the
owner of the video Mr.Anuranjan Jha who has conducted this
sting operation To give us the
unedited tape [Anuranjan Jha] Why should I give them
the raw footage? I am not obliged
to give them anything I will give it only
to a constitutional body Today, the party that
has blemished the names of so many Itself stands tainted AAP is the
most corrupt party We had lot of
hopes from them But now I want people
to thrash them Because we are accused We shouldn’t have access
to the evidence on the basis of which we
are accused This I’ve heard for the
first time in my life I thought even murderers are given evidence on the
basis of which they are tried The owners of the video refused
to give the raw footage to AAP but have submitted it to
the Election Commission This is the story
that’s breaking The sting operation
on the AAP The party has now accessed
raw footage of that sting from the
Election Commission [Reporter] We want to
hold a protest march If you could make
a small appearance It’ll help us
get attention But we have no proof to back
our claim against them What’s the process
for donation? This is the crucial bit where
they’ve cut the footage But we have no proof to back
our claim against them Can we do something else? Then… We can’t just
accuse like that I’ve been in television
for so long If there’s nothing
concrete We won’t do it “We won’t lie” – “We can’t accuse like that, Only if you have
something concrete” “We won’t do it” “We can’t lie” They cut 14 seconds and
changed the entire story This paints a completely
different picture They deliberately removed
10 seconds from a 3 minute video and those 10 seconds are
the most crucial part This shows that they were only
trying to defame the party Our volunteers and candidates
have suffered a huge setback Who’ll take
the responsibilty? Our reputation was
dragged through the mud Who’ll take the
responsibilty for it? [Journalist] There’s no doubt
that the sting has tarnished your image You will have to agree I’m agreeing on camera that the
sting has hurt the party Why are you stuck
on the same question? Who do you think
is behind this? BJP or Congress? I have no idea The Countdown has begun
for the assembly elections and no election will be watched
more closely than Delhi A fairly healthy debut for the Aam Aadmi Party With 7 seats for them The Congress is expected
to win 27 seats BJP, 32 seats The AAP could
win 8 seats leaving 3 seats
to independents The AAP, 7-12 So the big picture
that is emerging is that the Congress
is ahead Brother, vote for AAP – No, you have
no chance No problem, have a good day Congress and BJP have begun
a publicity blitzkrieg Their ads are in
the newspapers every day They’ve mobilised an army of
workers on ground They have their own
printing presses In the next 15 days
they’ll stir up a storm They have a far
superior organisation – You have repeatedly said
during your campaign that the Congress and the BJP
have no threat from the AAP – Yes… these are the
two traditional parties Arvind Kejriwal did… There is no point in
discussing Arvind Kejriwal His story is finished There are a lot of hopes
attached to you If you lose this
Delhi election a lot of things which can
happen in the national scene will get stalled for a
couple of years or more which is going to be
very, very bad Work 18 hour days
if you have to But you must win This is democracy ‘Rule of the People’ Ever since we were young,
we were told that ‘India is a democracy’ If we asked, “How?” The answer was
“Because we elect our leaders” Elections don’t
define democracy We vote once
in five years And the elected rule
without any accountability That’s not democracy People decide the
change they want and the leaders ensure
its delivered This is the democracy
we believe in Our name is
“Aam Aadmi Party” The party and Arvind Kejriwal
need to be seen as one Arvind’s face, the symbol of the
broom and the ‘AAP’ These three things need to
register in people’s mind Our aim is to disperse
the funds controlled by a few into the hands of the collective The six biggest issues emerging
from our survey in Delhi Water We also concluded
from our meeting today Once again the survey
shows very clearly Water is not only the most
important problem of Delhi It is three times more important
than the next important problem So it has to be
water, water, water! We believe this is a
basic human right and it is the government’s
duty to make it free No party has promised
such a thing We should be the first party to
say these things straight away Any promise apart from this one
must be made with caution If the poor cannot afford the
government’s water bills Will they go thirsty? Do they not have the
right to free water? When the AAP forms
the government 700 litres of free water will be
alloted to every household daily And in 30 days Electricity prices will
be halved in all of Delhi Free water for everyone AAP is for everyone Electricty prices will
bother no more When AAP comes
to the fore Are you being realistic? Or are you succumbing to the
worst forms of populism? Do you not believe you have
been unnecessarily exuberant? Making promises
which are unrealistic Especially cutting the
electricity bill by half and providing 700 litres
of free water to each family Our expectation is not
50% reduction of rates but in the bills that the
consumer finally pays It should lead to
50% reduction [Journalist] So it’s an expectation
not a promise It’s not clear in
the language We’ve spent a lot of time
thinking about the language Mr. Kejriwal has arrived We are with you if you promise
not to demolish our homes You need to ensure
our basic rights – I don’t have the
power right now! We’ll give you the power! Lead the way
we will never leave your side – We are with you! We promise to legalise
your dwellings We promise better
food security And you will all receive
a Social Security ID Yes! We will start
local clinics How will we fulfill these
promises in one year? Fortunately, these plans haven’t
been made public yet – They have, sir Arvind has made announcements
on Facebook & Twitter It’s not cast in stone I think we should still
think carefully This is the last chance
to think carefully We’re getting carried
away in our excitement We are being
optimistic But we cannot
commit this to paper I really think
we should think about it How are you, sir? – Congratulations I am the ex-president of Delhi BJP I have won an election from here as well
– Yes, I am aware You’re on full steam! I have seen rickshaws with
your posters on the back They are definitely impactful
– It’s working You’ve launched a
direct attack! When will your party
declare candidates? [BJP Member] In a couple
of weeks from now We’ve announced
the core team There are rumours about
internal conflicts It’s all part
of the game [Reporter] The BJP has bitten the
bullet over announcing its Chief Ministerial
candidate for Delhi Dr. Clean, Harsh Vardhan
got the nod after a meeting of the
BJP’s parliamentary body Who will we vote for?
– Congress! A lot of people ask “Why did Arvind decide to contest
against Sheila Dikshit?” “This is suicide,
you’ll never win” I can confirm that at the moment
Arvind is leading in your constituency [Announcer]
Arvind Kejriwal needs your support! On election day, when you
cast your votes remember how we transformed
Delhi in 15 years We are not politicians We entered politics because
they compelled us and now the people will
overthrow this government [Reporter] For the first time, Delhi is an impossible
state to predict The fact is, Sheila Dikshit
has been in power For 15 years
now in Delhi BJP is now rising And Arvind Kejriwal has caught
the imagination of the Delhi public – Vote for the Broom
– Vote for Congress 24 hours now
to the Delhi vote Nobody wants to put their neck
on the line on this one It’s going to be a
fiercely fought and extremely close battle
by the looks of it We need to remain vigilant
till the last vote is cast Our work is not
done just yet – It’s the same story before every election Money, alcohol and muscle power
being used to win votes The Delhi Election Commission
has announced a slew of precautionary
measures Flying squads along
with surveillance teams Are carrying
out raids We want to catch
the culprits red-handed Hello? Yes, tell me Is alcohol being distributed?
What’s your location? Open the door right now! Start the machine Press the
green button – Is it done?
– Yes This is for the first time fifty percent
vote mark is being crossed The police is harassing us
and not letting us do our job Calm down Where are you
right now? I’ll do something You can’t arrest
us like this They are obstructing
our volunteers File a complaint over
email immediately We could be seeing Delhi
going for a record poll figure The polls are
now closed The exit polls
are indicating A clear win for
the BJP in Delhi Our own poll
shows that BJP is poised to win
the election with 41 seats while Congress
will have 20 And the AAP
will have 6 seats Our evidence shows
that we were leading until 72 hours
before elections We don’t know
where we are now Exit polls say we
have slid down We are attempting to transform
the politics in this country and Delhi is our
stepping stone The volunteers understand
the importance of winning But we’ve compromised
our ideals to reach here Compromises have to be
made in politics True idealism can only be
practiced in a monastery Politics should be about
realising the ideal You start with an ideal But instead of just
preaching it everywhere We should implement
those ideals in the real world If you want the
advantages of power, You already have
the BJP and Congress who treat politics
as a business The challenge lies in navigating
between idealism and brute reality And in politics, this
challenge will always exist We don’t know what
tomorrow has in store If through some miracle,
you change this system in four days then something is wrong This will be
a long haul We will have to concede
defeat in some battles So that we can
win the war It’s the most anticipated
election result this year Will people repose faith in
Sheila Dikshit? Can the BJP’s HarshVardhan get
to rule Delhi for the first time? I am leaving, mother – Will you be
home late? At 11? 11
Maybe 12 [Election Officer] Counting starts
at 8:30 A.M. In fact counting has just begun – I pray for
your success! Hello! The BJP is leading right now Nangloi Jat goes to BJP Narela, BJP wins – We lost Narela?
By a big margin Who is leading here? Congress
– Okay Who is looking at
Karol Bagh? Will someone respond? Laxmi Nagar Congress is leading, we
are trailing by 1900 votes [Election Officer]
Sheila Dikshit has 1090 votes Arvind Kejriwal… Sheila Dikshit?
– 1090 votes Arvind Kejriwal? – 2556 votes Unbelievable.
Kejriwal is leading! Arvind is leading
by 2000 votes! We are leading
in Timarpur! We’re number one
in Timarpur – Oh wonderful! We’re leading in Santosh Koli’s
area by 8000 votes [News] For all the exit
and opinion polls Something very interesting
is happening in the National Capital Region Has Arvind Kejriwal managed to
successfully steal the agenda away from the BJP right
under its nose? This was meant to
be a referendum for Arvind Kejriwal’s
brand of politics Our candidate Akhilesh, who
was beaten up by the police Is leading by
8500 votes Sir, we’ve won Laxmi Nagar
by 6000 votes Congress party is in big
trouble this morning They are breached in
Narela by the AAP They are breached in
Sultan Pur Majra by the AAP The Congress party has been
breached in Patel Nagar by the AAP The Congress party has been
breached in RK Puram by the BJP It is clear that the
battle in Delhi is now between
BJP and the AAP Congress is nowhere
in the race and a comeback
seems unlikely In the New Delhi
Legislative Assembly counting for 12 rounds
is now over Arvind Kejriwal is leading
by 15,000 votes – Had Arvind campaigned
in my constituency I wouldn’t have
lost by 340 votes – Don’t worry…Winning and losing
is part of the game – Please sit down – Look at the number of
votes you’ve got? That’s the point Just tell me if you’ve
won or lost – He lost Where? Sultanpuri Majra Keep saving your work I don’t want to
lose any data If the AAP has taken
BJP’s spot They need to assess the
situation they’re in Congratulations, Arvind The Election Officer
will speak to you now Mr.Arvind Kejriwal We have just been told
that Arvind Kejriwal has won from the
New Delhi constituency with over 22,000 votes That’s a massive,
massive victory He has defeated Sheila Dikshit,
the incumbent chief minister There on your screens,
Arvind Kejriwal has just come out Look at the euphoria
here at the AAP office I believe that the
people will win, Democracy will win! Victory to Mother India! We have to be a strong
opposition now and show them
how it’s done We’ll raise those standards We rose against not only the
government failure’s but also the opposition’s Long Live
AAP! Long Live
Arvind Kejriwal! This victory belongs
to the people not me I’m an insignificant man – What do you have to say
about the margin of victory? This is a triumph
of the people This shows how frustrated
the common man was This is not my victory I’m an insignificant man The people of Delhi have taken a decision which we respect That’s all I can say just now It’s a stunning debut A political miracle of sorts Debutant AAP is not going to
form probably the next government But, my god what
a performance Congratulations, sir No party is in a position
to form a majority The BJP, the single largest party
in the Delhi Assembly Doesn’t want to take a
shot at government formation Rumblings within the congress
party are growing louder They’ve issued unconditional
support to the AAP How can we take support
from the Congress? It’s out of the question 50% off in electricity bills 700 litres of water
free to everybody Let them fulfill it – You’re not convinced
it is practical? No, are you? Having undertaken this miracle I’m deeply disappointed that they are
running away from their responsibilities and continuing to
be an NGO You have the majority with
the Congress supporting you Form an alliance and
fulfill your promises For the first time in history a government will be formed
in consultation with the people If you think the AAP shouldn’t
form the government please raise your hands About 50 people And now those who think
otherwise, raise your hands Form the government! I don’t agree
– Why? They should fight
another election These people challenged you and that’s why you
formed a party Now you are a
political party Admit you’re a political party
and act like a politician Go ahead and
deliver now! I support Delhi is all set to have
a new government It is history in the making This is a big moment for
Indian democracy But Yogendra, many questions are going
to be raised again and again about what Arvind and
you said earlier That there’s no question of taking
support from the Congress or the BJP How will you avoid the label of
being a party That started off
with politics Not as usual And may have in this choice
ended up embracing Politics as usual? I, Arvind Kejriwal By the grace of God Bear my allegiance to
the Constitution of India And promise to uphold it with
honesty, devotion and loyalty Long live
the revolution! Friends, today is a
historic day Two and a half
years ago We protested in
these very grounds with a demand to end
corruption in India For two years,
we did all we could Fasts, demonstrations,
everything But slowly it became clear This country will not
change until we transform the politics
of this country We will now
take the oath Repeat after me! I swear that as long as I live I will never take a bribe nor will I ever give a bribe Let’s say it again

The Nightmare World of Gang Stalking


This has many names. Gang stalking, mob stalking,
community stalking. You’re in the middle of this
ridiculous, irrational impossibility that is real and is happening. First, the Guardian revealed the
National Security Agency is collecting telephone records of
millions of Verizon customers. To surveil someone
through their phones. Certainly through their
television sets. The last year and a half,
he’s been systematically followed by a group of people. Does the FBI used drones for
surveillance on U.S. soil? New Associates Press
investigation shows that the Bureau has its
own little air force with scores of planes flying
over American cities recording videos and tracking cell
phone conversations. He has a man outside of his house. In a hood. Like, basically like a hood. This almost sounds like gang
stalking or something. Have you heard of that? Many of the things that victims of
gang stalking described are also symptoms
of mental disorders. We’re not having a
group hallucination. This is actually something
that’s happening. I grew up with my parents.
My mother was a medical doctor. My father was a former
rocket scientist turned teacher. I grew up with a desire to be
a graphic artist. And then I didn’t like school
very much so I joined the Navy. I did that for a couple of years. Didn’t like that too much
so I came back to LA. And basically lived in Los Angeles
as a homeless man just living on the street. I had my truck with a shell
and I worked as a handyman or construction jobs
that I would get. The gang stalking experience
started for me when I noticed these black SUVs and other police vehicles driving
slowly along the street. But they never came up to me
or said anything. And then, I had seven or eight
helicopters hovering directly over my apartment. And then it goes “brr” by. And it keeps happening,
it keeps happening. It begins to dawn on me that
something is going on. And this continued on. Here comes the
gang stalking helicopter. Here it comes. It’s confusing to humans trying to
understand gang stalking. Why would they do this to me? Why would they do these weird,
petty little things that, you know, maybe even just irritate
me at some moment. If you were to ask me
what gang stalking is. It’s a way to slowly kill people
using their own decisions. So we’re getting one
of our friends here. I got to see. I don’t know if you can hear that
on the audio. But we’re getting a buzz right now. On certain topics that I’ll
bring up, I’ll get buzzed. My understanding of gang stalking is that a number of people have
found each other on the internet who believe that they are being
targeted for harm. There’s this concept of
hyper-vigilance, right? Which is that your threat
assessment centers get locked into a position that is too high. They’re warning you all the time
about things not necessarily untrue but that you would feel better
not worrying about. Being of the opinion that you had to
constantly look around and figure out what might
be threatening to you. Or else your life would be at stake. Would lead to you not just seeing
connections that weren’t there, but erring on the side of safety when you see a connection that might
or might not be there. I’m a self-taught makeup artist. And depending on the
list that you look at, probably one of the top ten
makeup artists in the world. I think that just
my life experience, me being around famous
people all the time. What paparazzi photographers
do to them. What normal people do to them
if they go out in public. There’ll be a gang like reaction. This is essentially the same thing. Except it’s not. I didn’t ask for it. In my experience, it started
over a year ago. I had rented a space
in Hawthorne, California. And people warned me that
as a gay man, you know, it was maybe brave of me
to rent this space. I never think about
things like that. I didn’t know what it was called. Like I said, I just thought
that it was bullying. I just thought that it was people were just like, “get the faggot
out of the neighborhood or whatever.” When 20 or 30 cars are hazing you
on the freeway, behind you, in front of you,
on both sides of you. Completely controlling how fast you
go, whether you exit. Whatever you do. This is something bigger than that. I started spray painting their cars
on the freeway. I pepper spray them.
At this time, it was trying to get them
to call the police. That’s what I was trying to do. I had no other way, I felt like,
other than to find out are these people together. Are they working
in this one collective group for the same reason? What they’ll do to a particular
person in order to stress them out is they’ll hit them with the same
thing over and over and over again. I would get Los Angeles Police
Department vehicles lighting up their sirens. And not pulling me over
but zooming around me almost like a continual tactic. This happens so much that I was
inspired to buy a dash camera. I believe it was the very next day. And it was the first time
I experienced what I know now was called
street theater. And I watch the parking lot
literally filled up with cars. And heterosexual couples would hold hands and stroll
through the back of the parking lot like they were on some
1950s sitcom. People that are trying to look
incredibly normal, look incredibly abnormal. Because they’re, they’re acting. It’s not authentic. That was when I first
started thinking, “It’s all of them against me.” This is clearly a collective
organized whatever is happening. If a conspiracy is a bunch of people
working together to do something that they don’t want publicized, then it would be absolutely wrong to say the world is not
filled with conspiracies. The question is what does it do for you
to spend a lot of time thinking and feeling about the
conspiracies that you believe exist. The government has to know about it. This can’t be like some rogue group operating some shadow thing and
nobody knows about it. I go to the Van Nuys
Police Department. I walked in. I said this is my ID,
this is my name. Are you following me or do you have
any knowledge of me being followed? “Is there a reason for you
to be followed sir?” No, there’s not. But people are. “Who’s following you?” Well, I don’t know who it is. “Well, what are they driving?” They’re driving cars with dealer
tags that you can’t trace. “Well sir, there are a lot
of dealers here. There are a lot of dealer tags. How do you know that
they’re following you?” Very quickly, you see
how crazy you sound. I’ve never been arrested. I’ve never had a DUI. Anything whatsoever. Whoever is in charge, which is so
weird, is spinning this web about what a deviant, immoral, less than a human being you are. That’s the only thing I can think of
that would get that many people in this collective effort
to get rid of you. This happens to you enough, believe
me, you will feel stressed. You will get that feeling
of helplessness. This is not just a gang of random
people just doing this for, you know, like randomly
without a plan. This is procedural. The psychiatric definitions
of delusion tend to focus on really two
principles. One is that the ideas that you have are not very vulnerable to evidence. The other is that people in your
culture don’t share your beliefs. The question becomes if you can find
10,000 people on the internet who believe the same thing as you,
is it a delusion? Is it bizarre? Quite possibly not. If everybody believes this stuff,
how is it in any way insane? People just would not
believe the suffering that people in this community
endure every single day. I’ve lost just about all my friends.
They’re afraid to talk to me. They just think, they think… It’s very effective,
they think I’m crazy. My family doesn’t know
anything about it. I don’t say a word to them. I don’t know if my son knows. And I don’t want anything
to happen to him. It’s really the most important thing
that we can do for victims is to connect them with others who
understand what they’re experiencing because no one else will. And isolation is really a key weapon
that these perpetrators use to bring a person down
to the ground basically. If you go to see a psychiatrist. Let’s say it’s the first time
you’re meeting a psychiatrist And you say, “I’m under police surveillance.” Then the psychiatrist will write you
off as suffering paranoid schizophrenia and he will
give you medication. So we must assume that this is what
the American society believes. That all these government agencies
which normally watch our people don’t actually watch people at all. If anybody thinks that they are
being watched by these government agencies,
then they must be crazy. It cannot possibly be true. There is really no help at the
moment officially to assist targeted individuals. They can’t go to the police. They can’t go to the FBI. They can’t go to Congress. There is nowhere that they can go. We are having to create the issue
and also the solution. Why isn’t our nation listening?
This could be them. I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the nation is under
mass mind control. Given that the world is filled with
groups of people operating in secret or trying to divorce us from our
money or our power or whatever they want from us. One thing that might be helpful to
ask from a psychiatric point of view is what’s wrong with the rest of us? So why am I so relaxed? What’s wrong with me that I don’t
feel I’m being gang stalked? And is it that I’m living
in the matrix? Where in order to feel
more comfortable, I have decided to simply ignore a
lot of the evils in the world and a lot of the potential
threats to me. Okay, so, what we’re seeing
here is this scene where Keanu Reeves character climbs
out of the battery vat chamber. You can’t see precisely what it is
because of that loss of focus. But you can definitely see
that something is abnormal. As you can look at it I drew a picture of what the shapes
of those claws are. Looks like a bird talon
or a reptile talon. I started searching on conspiracy
type movies, UFO movies, weird movies on YouTube. I came across the reptilian
shape-shifter subject. What I can confirm is that there are
apparently non-humans. Apparently some of them
are extraterrestrial. And apparently they have some kind
of evil grip on our world. Richard Bruce here. And, if you haven’t seen
my channel before, this is gang stalking for reptilian
shape-shifter movie uploads to YouTube. When I uploaded my study, within 15 minutes helicopters kept
zooming over my apartment like there was a
drug bust in my building. And then it didn’t take me long. I think it popped into my mind
pretty quick. Oh my God. Is this from what I
uploaded to YouTube? Because the whole thing was so
freaky at first. Like when you’re seeing these
non-human features, you’re like, “Oh my God.” What is this? What can possibly be
going on? They’re carnivorous. They’re not friendly to mankind. At least the ones that are here. When you say carnivorous,
they eat humans? When I told my family about this, it’s almost like, I get a non sequitur reply
from a computer. They just kind of look at me like I’m not even hearing this. And, I’m really not
interested in that. My father, the rocket scientist,
the doctorates in mathematics. When I tell him anything about this. One of the main points of
discrediting me is saying that you just have to be
negative and dark about everything. Because of your own dissatisfaction
of being unemployed. I mean that’s a highly- It’s an understandable
point of view. It’s like somebody who’s disgruntled
with life in general might flock to an idea. Yeah, there’s evil reptilians doing
it all to us and that’s why I’m so miserable
or whatever, you know. Nobody wants to be called crazy. It’s one of the worst things
you can imagine. I don’t think I or any psychiatrist
would recommend that. People are convinced that what they
believe is not true. The more useful target would be what
pain are they feeling in their life? At least, if I can do anything, if I
can achieve anything by exposing this issue to
the general public. It could be that it takes away these
criminal’s right to destroy people’s lives with this. Because it’s terrible what’s
happening to people. I mean what kind of a country do we
live in where you can’t say certain things or do certain
things without our own government using these subversive, underhanded
tactics to drive you crazy. You’re in the middle of this
ridiculous, irrational impossibility that is real and is happening. And it’s stranger than fiction or
anything you can imagine. And it’s- It’s terrifying. Fuck. I don’t want to start crying. It… It pisses you off. It frustrates you. Beyond anything that
you can imagine. And it… It changes you. We could see it from everything. The fluoride in the water. The chemtrails. The fake education system. The fake medical system. I mean when are we going to wake up
and stand up and fight? As the scriptures say, “How good is
it for brethren to be together.” Meaning how good is it for people
who truly trust each other and are friends to be together.

The Young Black Conservatives of Trump’s America



I've have never ever ever mattered to the Democrat Party laughed votes always have the Democrat Party have established a house of token niggers token niggers Democrat Party they want us to permanently be in a state of fear racism white racists Republicans they just put a black person in the White House for eight years didn't do anything for us here we go Oh such a so we are so scared to try something different the Democrats are very nervous they do nothing for you and that was supposed to be automatic not anymore I'm curious like is this really about the politics like how do we know this is real is this legit you guys have a beautiful home and a lot of family photos yes a lot of people said that my family was brainwashing me and that really bothered I've had people have known me for seven to ten years that have texted me and told me that I have a mental illness I read a little bit out for my sister at one time to say that you're a traitor a traitor to who a traitor to my race how do you feel about black conservatives like y'all House Negroes that y'all just trying to please this white man these are lost to sturb self-loathing people notice that all caps on so I think some people assume this is a play for boats well I haven't changed and I'm not gonna change voting for Trump is not about being a Republican make America great again is for us too what does it make you feel like when you wear it it makes me feel like a proud American you have to defend why you go to first run Hilary Clinton that's who they wanted us to vote for over Trump just because you're black you don't have to be a Democrat I am a black gay conservative and I am proud of that we have to solve over like free agent the people in this room are going to change America [Applause] we're standing in the white house not fair not that the Democrats are very nervous I will tell you they're very good they do nothing for you and that was supposed to be automatic not anymore [Applause] I can live with that that's I was never a fan you know that right the past the black community has been promised everything from the Democrats by the Democrats and they've got nothing Democrat policies have led to unsafe communities failing schools over incarceration when I ran for president I asked black Americans to give me a chance with your vote by saying what the hell do you have to lose [Applause] I'm just going to be honest I never thought I would ever see this many black people in megawhatts President Trump received more votes from black voters than both Mitt Romney and John McCain and a lot like his presidential campaign much of the media seems to be dismissing the growth of the black conservative movement and instead is attacking their character and motives we all know african-american Republicans these are lost disturbed self-loathing people who are part of a personality called for a president who calls for domestic terrorism and a destruction of every norm that makes this country great was not a summit it was a make America great rally the use of young blacks as props notice that all of those youngsters had caps on it was almost like we're gonna dress you for the photo and while the Democratic Party historically controls eighty to ninety percent of the black vote they don't need to lose that many black voters before they start losing elections we're in DC for the first ever young black Leadership Summit where young black conservatives from around the country have come together here in a conference to be put in front of conservative thinkers to find what is hopefully a physically safe space for them to be both black and conservative in a way they've only been able to do online I don't know if this is genuine but I'm really curious to find out from some of the kids who are here this weekend why they're here and what being here actually means to them what being there meant to them black lives have never ever ever mattered to the Democrat Party black votes always have they create this narrative every four years that the Republicans are racist they try to scare us are we such punks that we are so scared to try something different because every four years they knock for our boats and they say vote for us because the other guy's racist this is our time make America great again is for us too we are Americans first in fairness we have been in this country since 1619 before any other immigrant group this is can soand at 29 she is the most influential young black conservative voice in American politics black support Donald Trump has doubles at this time last year you guys are trying to pretend that he is pushing in a racist era in this country when in fact we know the Democrats are the racists have always in the races the left is incredibly good at linguistics planned parenthood that sounds nice I want to plan my Parenthood but in reality they're murdering babies yeah me too you guys have also not been too nice to me in the press in less than a year she went from being relatively unknown to capturing the attention of the President all through social media rushing collusion is the dumbest that you guys have pulled out in a really long really this is it like this oh my gosh if you don't vote for Democrats we don't get behind us the Russians are gonna be infiltrating your computers and telling you how to vote like what is wrong with you guys are we really witnessing the evolution of the face of the Republican Party here or is this an effort to capture more black votes and nothing else Oh so what you'll realize is we never tell anybody how to vote this has never been about AI for the first time two weeks ago register as a Republican I was just I always called conservative curious I knew something wasn't working on the left they've grown increasingly violent and they seem obsessed with races every single day they're trying to sell to us our own oppression we're not voting for people who are not serving our communities is serving our best interests the only people that are right that we have allowed around us all right liberals and the reason why black men are out here stomping new flags and burning them is because the Democrats never taught them how to love that flag we're done with the fear-mongering and we are understanding that despite everything that's presented by President Trump he's brought more results in the black president that was in office for eight years prior to him but the time is now people are feeling in power at a time is now for us to stand up and say doesn't matter what you call us anymore we want to be free we want to be a piece of the American dream too while these points could be debated back and forth by both sides for literally eternity this was the standard rhetoric being used throughout the entire event in 2008 I voted for Obama simply because I got blacked into it I'm gonna be honest and you treated us like we are victims the things that I learned in the hood are very conservative principles welfare lamb for the slaughter you make money somebody comes up to you says give me thirty five percent of your money what are you gonna do excuse me give you what give me your gun thank you thank you these are very conservative principles that we are raised with but we don't even know it I call myself just a free thinker it's become a lifestyle you know it's Who I am no one paid us to be here I absolutely love myself I am at a coon so when people are like oh you're just being used by the Republicans no you're being disrespectful to me because I know what I'm doing today in this room I'm so excited because we are going to launch in front of the world a movement a movement that will forever be remembered as a piece of American history a movement called blex it the black exit [Applause] while there are only a few hundred people at this summit wearing blogs and t-shirts there are thousands more online and as long as black Americans have had the right to vote there have been black Republicans but there has never been the community activism and recruitment than that created by the rise of social media and one such influencer in this space is Antonio Okafor a second Amendment rights activist and conservative speaker yesterday a horrific incident took place at Texas Tech University a student took his gun and shot campus police officer in the head I am ia campus carry activist for this very reason to empower the law abiding individual and student on a college who's afraid of a criminal harming them we're following her to Iowa because she's being honored at congressman Steve King's annual pheasant hunt a GOP tradition sponsored by a man who's been called a racist by the press previous honorees have included Ted Cruz and Donald Trump jr. so why Antonia whose agenda does this serve because in my mind this looks a lot like GOP recruitment raise it up to your shoulder ready little bit out nice and easy it's just like a regular thing you come out into the plains with white men cash I do live in born and raised in Carrollton Texas right that was me was predominantly white have you like found yourself being like one of few or like the only minority and like rooms more as your like political influences groom probably yeah but also while I've been doing this I've seen it grow the whole thing that's happening right now the young black Leadership Conference it's just like showing in one place what I've known for a long time that there are a lot of black conservatives and that there are many of them who are big black conservatives they're out there yeah I knew I wasn't alone but I was the most vocal is it an isolating experience being a black conservative there is a mentality almost like if you say anything that's different there's a firing squad waiting for you can you tell me about when you transition from being democrat to having these more conservative views yeah I think I've always had conservative views it was until 2010 that I started to realize that President Obama who I use II a Stickley voted for that the policies that he had put through I didn't feel that I was empowered as a young individual hope and she and he said that he was gonna drastically change America that was his platform though sure so no I don't think that it was unfair or unrealistic no I think maybe it's actually we need different policies to change things if a black man didn't change it I'm curious how you as the child of an immigrant from Africa reconcile the comments that Donald Trump made where he you know alluded to it being a shithole I always used my mom is a great example and hearing her say do you think I went to America just because I liked Texas or something it is horrible there are people there are Christians who are being killed by machetes and outside of that context just thinking about the checkered past that the Republican Party does have with minority groups in this country why is it that you can like stomach the injustice is so please tell me what injustice is you're talking about the Republican Party voter suppression laws for example so having an ID which I have a driver's license people would tribute these things to being you know an infringement upon people's rights if anyone's disenfranchise a minority groups it's the Democratic Party especially right now when they're taking our vote for granted because we are the majority usually and they can press comfortably on that that is disenfranchising a whole crew people are gonna watch this and they're gonna like question your motives for being so outspoken okay and so I want to know like how do you what is your response to that it's not that we have to that someone can't make a decision to change a part of their life or switch and not have a motive you know you behind it as special guests men like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump jr. why now honor Antonia she is a clear and a consistent conservative voice defending the Second Amendment in particular and she can do a better job of it in the arena that she's in that I can't do and the hunters out there they're a pushover for a young lady I'm so passionate about protecting seconds a minute because as an individual I know how important it is that I have a right to defend myself I'm a survivor of sexual assault I know what it means to feel completely vulnerable and defenseless I think some people will see you're standing next to Antonia here they will assume the worst which is that this is a play for votes or this is a play for influence in a place or maybe you didn't have it before well I haven't changed and I'm not gonna change and as popular as virtue signaling is it's almost a requirement in this society today I never do it and I never will and yet Congressman Steve King retweeted neo-nazis and publicly targeted immigrants by saying we can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies but now he's given Antonia what seems like a convenient platform now you owe me in there what was life like when he first started to be more outspoken about your political beliefs oh it was oh it was horrible it was definitely the one part that I was affected most by or impacted most by were the people around me for my sister at one time to say that you're a traitor a traitor to who a traitor to my race because of influencers like Antonia and Candace Owens more young black conservatives have declared their allegiance to Trump online but this decision can have life-altering consequences so my name is Shekinah for those of you that don't know and I've decided to exit the Democrat Party shekinah Geist is one of these people a budding social-media influencer that we met at the conference in DC who recently dropped out of college after being bullied for wearing a trump t-shirt on campus so we're following Chicana to her hometown to see whether embracing your political beliefs online is worth social suicide thank you and a lot of family photos yes mom loves pictures yeah what is this your brother up here yes I really Levi and that's my brother Daniel and his wife CeCe that's me we were adopted mm-hmm yeah and how's that experience been probably one of the best experiences ever because my birth mom was 15 when she had me I felt like she did the very best for me and gave me a better life yeah so this is the shirt Wow mm-hmm and so that was one too like your mom sent to you yeah mm-hmm anywhere on campus and stuff and your parents kind of impart any leanings one way or the other on you really no not at all my dad hates politics so they encourage you to like find your own way yeah they said you research and you um pick whoever you think is best fit you know when you wore that Donald Trump shirt that your friends know kind of your political leanings or um is that when they found out I definitely got backlash you know you're afraid of losing some of the first black friends you have yeah and did that happen most of them said they just couldn't imagine me supporting someone like Donald Trump we just kind of quit being friends it wasn't necessarily uncivil we just kind of quit talking to each other there are people who have had their names tossed around as being racist within the party right how are you okay with that if I truly feel that a candidate is being racist I will not stand with them and I don't think that Donald Trump says everything right I definitely think that he words a lot of things incorrectly and so what happened in the days that followed that like caused you to come back home to Greeley I think it was initially the shock just not expecting people to like message me and say things to me it was like the content of those messages that I lost my race card that I wasn't black anymore did I was an Uncle Tom did I was a sellout that I was just trying to make money I was trying to get attention I was trying to seek acceptance from white people a lot of people said that my family was brainwashing me and that really bothered why because I knew that I love my family and so I felt like I needed to go home and I wanted to do more research I wanted to be confident myself I wanted to know what I believed and I just felt like I had to completely reshift predominantly black urban areas have been destroyed our educational institutions have been destroyed black owned businesses have been destroyed all of these things the Democrats have done to destroy the black community why make your beliefs public it was a decision that I made after I felt more confident myself you have expressed concern that like you would have to deal with this kind of backlash I'm just curious like why still do it I felt that it was good to receive that backlash I felt it was good to hear a different perspective I felt it was good to challenge myself the first people to turn on Shekinah for her political leaning with the first black friend she's ever had and I wanted to get a better understanding of why there is so much resistance within the black community to black conservatives so right now we're at the University of Northern Colorado and we're gonna go meet up with a black student union she kind of hangs out here a lot with her friends she goes to the Community College around the corner we go hear what they think about young black conservatives what's up guys like is this like a liberal area or still having to go to class the next day I think that was the hardest part because like you go there and like you see people you know I was just like oh my gosh what kind of madness is this how do y'all feel about black conservatives the black booze yzs our vices I'm not never see the house Negroes every day I just facts that's big facts that's big facts they just house Negroes is like supporting a party I mean honestly we gonna be a real both parties I've never liked to me haven't done anything black people in a sense of like I wanna pot let's see I don't want no speeches I want policy but about what conservatives it's just like y'all house Negroes but y'all just trying to please this white man y'all gonna be on his good side so as much as I want to look past like oh you're a person and you might be confused but like you're personable values are tied into policies that affect my life like voting for Trump is not about being a Republican you voted for somebody who blatantly supports and encourages white supremacy like hate crimes are way up so like when you think about you know blacks in Union supports like diversity right do you guys also support that diversity and thought like would young black conservatives could they feel welcome in this space that is supposed to be welcoming for black students that's a unique word I wouldn't say welcome I'll definitely say feel challenged to back up the reason why you believe while you believe in ours who the same as well as everybody else with some with some facts and also with some emotions clearly many black students had a negative perception of black trump supporters but Shekinah was able to connect with one other like-minded black conservative in Greeley Sierra while a lot of black conservatives have found each other online this is one of those rare cases where they've created a real-world friendship so a lot of people tell me that when I talk about politics or use my social media it's solely to gain followers and that's just not the case we just want to try and get the word out there to let more people know that I mean that that this is for real this is who we really are as black conservatives you guys don't wear this on camera so as of right now I haven't I just got that like two weeks ago okay oh yeah probably I mean look at my backpack do you oh yeah I walk around with that every day what does it make you feel like when you wear it oh my hair is not poppin today I need a hat it makes me feel like a proud American I feel confident in it especially when you're in DC oh yeah I felt more confident wearing it there do you guys think that organizations like the Black Student Union which is supposed to be like a welcoming space for all black students you know do you think that would be accept – you guys I would say I would hope that they would be accepting I feel that if these people are truly pro-black it would be good to have a different perspective it would be good to have diversity of thought the Black Student Union invited us over to pregame for UNC's basketball game that night and we asked if we could bring Shekinah and Sierra for what will probably be an incredibly awkward introduction I'm curious like what are your preconceptions on black people and conservative and like conservative ideals yeah there's nothing wrong with being a conservative there's nothing wrong with voting your political party the issue is trunk but trumpets and making fun of people who are mentally handicapped making fun of women making fun of immigrants making fun of refugees making fun of black people that is the issue this is a long time for me to be a conservative I have a lot to say I have love that I could say I don't know had to really begin but well one of the things that I really appreciate that he's doing he's actually trying to start her vim revitalization with Ben Carson wasn't Ben Carson a doctor in their insane always how is he gonna help out with I was going on because he grew up in extreme poverty high bromination poverty I can't fix houses oh I think we have seen a lot of making an effort to try and fix the VA okay what was the thing betrayed the United States Mexico Canada agreement how he's been fixing that yeah not really frustrated me as trump's taking credit for a black unemployment rate i'm pretty sure we're all seeing that black unemployment rates that louis has ever been you did not do that it started going down underneath the brock obama you know where huge had that conversation with the tour bus with Billy Bush Billy Bush yeah about the time I was like ten years ago he referred to as locker room top he did publicly apologize I don't know if any of you guys watched that debate white nationalist literally said I feel emoted by Trump there's no way in hell you can justify that you have to defend why you like literally voted for Trump and there's nothing you can't get away from there cuz ben Carson has nothing to do with public house you're black I'm black like what does he have to say for you to stop a green with trouble immigration wise it's difficult because the people have already been here I don't think it's I I really don't think it's fair and a lot of conservatives believe it is I don't think it's fair for someone who's been here for thirty years started a business had a family to be deported back to wherever they came from me hear me talk is like you don't support him but you like you rep your party I respect that and black people we have this ideology brocco bomb is Jesus Christ which is not even close he never gave me a policy he to give no black people policy but as a citizen it's your civic duty again to hold them accountable for me I guess a good way to put it as I'm sometimes Trump there's things that I like and there's things that I will call him out on but when you just take away my black card and say that I'm not black anymore and you don't even want to discuss it with me you just want to say that white people have brainwashed me that's where I really have an issue I feel like it's not healthy to attack the black character it's not gonna do anything for us as your black community it's very common productive and then at the end of the day people are gonna be like oh black people and black people don't like each other so this is something that we have to discuss just hearing this movie you guys's and it really means a lot it's great one of the things that I hope is more people coming together [Applause] for me I've seen a lot of my friends and myself where people just completely disassociate themselves with black conservatives or vice versa as Americans we all have a civic duty to both to hold our government accountable people have always voted against their best interests and whether or not that's what's happening with black conservatives isn't really for me to say what do you feel are the biggest misconceptions about conservatives or the Republican Party that exists within the black community I think a lot of people think that that we're here to appease life people our job is to restore those pillars of the exception when America on the track to become again a greater nation they think that we're doing this for some Elster your motive we're gonna get celebrity status or whatever just because we're a black conservative I didn't do that for that it's definitely not a life that you want to live and live vocally but I think we all do it conspicuously because we want other people to realize that there are other people out there just like them and things just like that [Applause] black Republicans are still a fairly small group but the disillusionment within the black community with the Democratic Party is very real and if these concerns that black Americans have with the Democratic Party are continuously marginalized and ignored I think this movement could grow I don't know if this is an honest effort from the GOP to change the face of the party but I do know that this political evolution is real and earnest to the individuals that I met in DC and I just hope that at some point we can look past our differences and find a commonality and so that we can help our communities instead of arguing in such a partisanship that we see on both sides of the aisle now if we really want to make America great again attacking someone for the way they vote is never going to be the way that we get there you

Latino Conservatives Debate Liberals on the Wall, Amnesty, and Political Polarization (Part 2/2)



raise your hand if you are for the wall one of you that raised your hands for the wild wife why are you poor the law every single year through the southern boater there's like sixteen thousand kids that are brought through the illegal ports of entry for trafficking purposes labor and sex slavery which I think it's a terrible crime that we should all get behind and also women so so that is what I main reasons on for the wall it's going to secure our borders is going to prevent people from doing these terrible crimes and obviously it's national security as well anyone that's against the wall does anyone want to respond human trafficking is done right here in Miami is done all over the place a war didn't start it or won't stop it either also there are people being raped and killed and having the same type of exploitation who are in these ice detention camps and children are being killed and we don't even know what's happening to them so I mean if you're gonna build the wall maybe build it around some other areas maybe build it around the White House so that people stop getting killed like that uh what I will say is the wasn't practical number wonder certain areas in the country where the wall just like it's just impractical I honestly thought the wall was like a metaphor to just tougher immigration policies which whatever but they really wanted literal it's impractical in some parts of the country and number two there is cutting through a lot of reservations we're talking about Indian land that the government does not own and they want to cut through that land those are sovereign nations that they're gonna be invalidating just for some law that again is impractical in many other areas of country and number three a walls not gonna stop us we're gonna be migrating here regardless I I just want to address the real yeah the whole thing you said about Mexicans being rapists bringing jugs first of all this is this is true this is a statement of fact I mean Mexicans do bring drugs into this country legally Mexicans do come in here commit murders commit crimes and I don't think it's appropriate to paint with a wide brush all Mexicans coming to this country are doing that because my mom crossed the border to this country twice illegally I have plenty of family who has done that and they've come here and done good things my mom came here and her first job was that talk about cutting tomatoes and that that might be funny but that's that's a fact so you know you it's not a it's not appropriate for jump to paint every Mexican coming here as a murderer or a drug dealer but the fact is is that a lot of them are and in my point of view let's say we let it at 50 Mexican Mexicans to this country 49 of them are good good working citizens who want to contribute if the one of them kills my daughter I don't want any of them in the country speaking of your family that went through through this very similar process that I'm about to say a couple of days ago Donald Trump was in the border he was there and he said our country's full we cannot take you anymore Australia border for he was referring to the hundreds and hundreds of Central American migrants many of whom are fleeing violence who are here to request asylum so raise your hand and actually let's start by you do you believe that the specific community of Central American asylum seekers deserve to come into the United States well if you look at the history of asylum it's space it's based on a religious persecution things of that nature now you know we're painting or styling with a broader brush and where if there's violence in your home country you deserve to deserve to get a yes I know that so you deserve to get asylum and well I don't I don't know if that if that should be the case if we should just accept anyone from everything from everywhere just because they're escaping a bad situation I don't think that that automatically grants your Asylum first would you argue that your mom could be one of those people I would absolutely argue that my mom under different circumstances could have been one of those people so it is a very touchy situation me being a Mexican American and noting that my mom has become successful and it is hard but at the same time we have a problem already with poverty in this country we have a problem with veterans who aren't getting the care that they need after after literally getting blown up for it the right for us to be here right now and have this discussion and I think before we start taking in everyone else and their problems we need to address the problems that we have in this country now and you own that wants to respond to him my issue is that some of these ideas why they might have some aspects set in reality it creates a sort of hysteria and it creates a sort of anti-immigrant sentiment where my brother who was born here people always tell him go back to his country and to think about ice and some of the bills that are going on right now are not just you know there supporting criminals there are mothers there are families actual families that are being welcomed into this illegal it's okay there there it is it is separating families it's very divisive why why didn't he have such sentiments against his own wives he seems to love immigrants in his bedroom so I don't I don't understand not to be vulgar what I'm saying is that just keeping it real so I've been trying to talk for a while so like I want to talk about your last comment like Oh Trump said these things do you consider this races that makes racism seem rhetorical I guess if it's a rhetorical device instead of it being like a systemic issue that's actively destroying lives like family separation so like for people to decide well is this races just by the sound of it is kind of silly to me in the fact cuz the fact that separating a family is racism slavery was racism and it it worked off NATO slavery separating these families at the border is slavery and talking about these families that are coming over why are they coming over we talked about ms-13 you called them rapists gangbangers so on and so on but those are American gangs they're created in a very particular form of cárcel racism and they were deported back to these countries and these and they weren't even from there they were raised here they develop these types of habits in order to exist within a racialized American economy they're also in those countries so because they got deported there by the US you created that problem and also for the fact that I didn't create that problem cannot talk about America I'm talking on America my problem no that's that's fine you you were talking about the American position all day so I created a merit I used it as a rhetorical device for the American position that deported these people let's talk about the fact that you guys brought up the family and separation is racist I have a big problem when they're using children at the border to get into this country that is not their children so either there's DNA test or we're gonna have to separate you to make sure that that child belongs to that parent but there's this thing called human nature I feel like also gain that weight so your uses with a key boss is just insulting for sure in your face like about the 11 million undocumented immigrants that are here what is the first thing that comes to mind when I say that let's go around I think we should give them citizenship and that might surprise you guys but I do think there are they're already here they've been here for a while they're in our schools they're there in our restaurants the you know they're there every they're everywhere they're part of us they should be given citizenship I think I agree with him that a lot of them that have been here maybe they should get amnesty I think you know they've been here for so long they're pretty much American by this point but there are some that they don't represent American values and they shouldn't be here what exactly are American values Constitution the life liberty and pretty very happy in the core American how that American passport I'm a citizen not important you're cutting around here a lot of things to like just amnesty you know it's a snap of the finger I mean a lot of them you know they're criminals I think they got to be reported a lot of them you know their families and you know they've earned their their chance I almost find it disgusting that people are we're really talking about how to legitimize like the life of a human being thank you like what so they should be given citizen citizenship because of this right I think people should be granted human dignity period no matter if you're a Palestinian baby if you're an American baby regardless give them their humanity there's a report out there that says that it's gonna take almost two years so identify the thousands of families that were separated at the border who thinks it was immoral to separate families at the border I am four people and I feel like the things the hate the stereotype it's affecting real human beings and causing people not to see people as people but as objects as this thing with an emotion attached to it and that level of discrimination is causing families to be separated people are losing their lives they are dying and that is the issue I have with you anyone that does not see it in moral what do you have to say I mean I just want to say the only reason I don't see it as Memorial is just because like you or me or any of us here were to commit a crime here in America are we would be separated from our family we'd go to jail like it's the same thing that would happen to anybody else who committed a crime in America and crossing the border illegally is committing a crime I would also like to say that their nation are some sort of demeanor you can't just assume that these people are families you need to validate these things you can't just take it as face oh this is your mother fine because they'd spend documented that that's not the case that that the Coyotes are using children and as cover saying that their their dad for protection you need to validate these things you can't just take someone's words and use advocate devil's advocate your imagine if that was your mother with you and but what's the feel would you feel okay of your mother and you were separated no I would be sad absolutely I didn't I never said that separating the families isn't isn't horrible because it is horrible and it is saddening and just look at the images of the conditions that stopped it is sad but at the same time just because something is sad is just because it's unfortunate doesn't mean that you can't have you need to have some sort of way to validate these things you can't just take someone's words and say okay this is my father okay good to go the people who are talking about this are unaffected by this the people that this is happening to our Central American indigenous communities the Claudia Gomez was a man by a woman or a little girl really who got shot at the border there are families being separate these are indigenous children and this is literally replicating the Indian Removal Act is this this not only displacing digis communities from their pueblos but also separating them from their families which is the history of the United States and this is literally a continuing to yesterday doing out of force not my way back home I came here my cousin stayed there and guess what happened at 18 he died that is the reality that we're escaping and unfortunately these gangs these a instability of our countries often come from the United States going to our communities and trying to start a business there by displacing us you that was the past is a few [Applause] still going on I fear lead you have more invested yourself in another country than here you cares more about another because this year this is my problem you know these are borders these are man-made borders I don't care I care about people that I know I know I know right now in Colombia in Colombia you we don't want you more there's a million Venezuela's that are in Colombia yes you care so much about American people congratulations I'm not like that I'm sorry I I do think I'm a community back home you assimilate so American and that is back again this is coming from a point of view it's separatism little look you guys are acting like as if we're not all human sorry humanity is being stripped they're being dehydrated they're being sponsored me ask you this there's there's many Venezuelans know that that are coming to Miami and in South Florida in your eyes is there any difference between some of the Central American families that are at the border and some of the Venezuelan that are trying to come I mean yeah there's a lot there's a lot of differences one of them is the majority of the majority but there's a very large majority of Venezuelans here who have a lot of money some of them are even Chavistas some of them or you know they they're kind of like took their money came here they have businesses so in terms of like humanity know they're all humans but the majority of the poor Venezuelans are going to countries like Peru countries that Colombian countries like Brazil they're rich ones are all here right but there is I mean we do know factually right that there are many Venezuelans that are trying to leave them a loot of government and that are trying to seek asylum here so my question is for everyone do they deserve the same opportunity to seek asylum than a Central American family right I feel everybody is the same everybody has that what people don't understand is there is laws and regulations to claim asylum there's about five different don't quote me Reina but there's about five different options of political reasons if you're being prosecuted for political reasons I have a friend that claimed asylum that way if for race for I mean like relationship persecution yeah exactly it's not just because your town was affected by some sort of a gang and now you're poor and then so you come up it's not like that it's like legitimate reasons you have to verify paperwork to be to claim asylum when you think of this American dream right Oh God what type of American dream it may not exist and you tell me that it may not exist right but when you do think of this idea of the American dream what what does that look like for the latinized community in my opinion the American dream is opportunity and even though our country is not perfect I think there's more opportunity here to succeed than any other country in the world and I think I can't argue Inc sorry I didn't mean to cry sorry I think that the American dream what essentially means is people from the global South coming here and then obtaining the privilege to ignore the United States involvement in the global cells what does that look like for you to me as he said the dream is opportunity it is to come here and make money it is to have my own business it is to succeed I don't necessarily think education means success I have many friends and many people that I know are millionaires and didn't go to school didn't finish the work college dropouts and I actually agree with you and we talked about this earlier about the pharmaceutical industry and how anti big farm I am and even though we may have our disagreements most of us just want a reboot in all establishments and this means our health care these like pharmaceuticals it means education it means everything else but what I don't want is to give the government more power because they're already messing everything up people yeah the less the less government reliance the better walk into a DMV see how that's run walk into a small business do that's right government out of the way I promise you things will take care of themselves the more the more the government puts their hands and everything the more things get ruined okay roads of yummy for me the biggest issue that has happened with the chains of government is how people relate to each other I think a lot of respect has been lost and policy aside which it's really important I think I'd look for a day when people can come together and disagree but still respect each other our country has become so so divided that you can't even sit down it's what what what I will say is you know we can we can agree to disagree depending on the issue but if I meet someone and they say I want your parents deported I'm not gonna be their friend I'm not gonna be like oh I agree to disagree with you that affects my life personally I have to drop out of school for two years because of Trump's administration would you ever be friends with any of the people that voted for Trump here no I was really unfortunate that's a turd person that's really sad personally speaking if any of them want to deport my families if that really is their opinion then I'm not gonna be their family okay what do you have to say to that I look at everybody as an individual here and I base you on your character a lot of these people have very strong character I don't judge them off of their political views or how they feel about what they think the world is doing and imperialism all this stuff like I don't I don't really like I just feel like that's sad that we can't all walk away from here and go to one of these really nice bars here in Wynwood and have a drinks not that it's not that I have any hatred to anyone that had never would have or trumpet to me it's it's again like it's affecting at people's in their everyday life so if you have an opinion that I felt like can hurt me can hurt someone that I love I'm not gonna sit down and have a casual drink with you that just doesn't make any sense to me but I can see the pain that that causes and yeah because I'm a people person I love people but another day so so okay yeah that's why we're here right because so maybe there is no common ground maybe there is but misunderstood I don't want people to feel like you know anything goes but I do feel that sometimes this is it's a communication thing and you might not understand my point today but if I can have more conversation with you if we could build more bridges together maybe over time you could see my point or maybe over time you could change your mind or maybe some aspects of me I'm not so rigid about everything that I and Phil for those of you that can vote that have the privilege of voting when you go to the ballot box what's the most important issue that you're gonna be voting on we're talking about policies and politics all right we get to talk about it in this air-conditioned for no this is a pretty this is an extreme people are literally dying right now like that is a fact people are dying right die every day all right my god you are exhausting every day I also don't feel like politics was necessarily ever constructed for the people I'm talking about that down there you know down-home grassroots people it is an elite structure within itself when you elect the leaders of whatever things so if we look strictly to politicians who I paid to do what they do and shake hands to do what they do we're gonna be completely lost so will you raise your hand if you're not gonna vote in 2020 I'm not I'm voting no everyone plans everyone that can vote plans I'm voting for the ones of you that did vote for Donald Trump in 2016 will you'll be voting for him again in 2020 absolutely yes yes the Democrats are not only producing anybody that would capture my vote why are you better than of my value I mean you're talking about we have been talking about politics and you know what what will stand up to you on a ballot and you know there's been a this lately you have politicians like Bernie Sanders aoc who won't want to give people they wants to have more government programs they want to hand out more things I don't think it's right to keep people dependent on the government I think that you don't want the less amount of people dependent on the government for anything is a good thing that's why overall I'm conservative that's why I will be voting for Donald Trump I want people to be lifted up on their own instead of you having to rely on the government for a job for a place to live for welfare but you want talking about hand now let's talk about these corporate handouts you were anti-establishment really think about what corporate establishments are to the foundation of America for things the less free they are if they're dependent on the government for something else that gives them less liberty that gives them less choice that lives to give people the right to live right right you're working through college so then you can get a better job so then you can live a better life like that is life I had it that's how you are socially responsible economically responsible like you have to work jobs now and go to college so that you do you think that say something and then we're gonna start wrapping it up go ahead United States still has colonies to this day for Rico Guam Virgin Islands okay in Puerto Rico the body can people there are still under colonialism and every product that goes pro Rico has to touch American soil first and then Puerto Rico and that affects the people that means the products there are twice as much three times as much etc so when we talk about rights at the United States or our Americans what Americans because Puerto Ricans are on Mary Carol so like forty person make forty percent of population psyche on welfare never voted to be independent so why don't they just be independent because you just because should you have to because directs themselves from the United States have had movements for independence those people Oscar Lopez the longest American political prisoner was incarcerated for 36 years these people people are constantly demanding to be free and they're constantly being killed and arrested and incarcerated I'm sorry for cutting you off we could literally do this for 25 hours in but again going back to 2020 what are the policies that you want to see you're not seeing give people a living wage I'm graduating next year and my degree is in education and even as a person coming from the education around I do not believe that education is the way out give people a living wage to me I want to see that I don't want that to be huge mass incarceration that needs to stop little so we I mean what are we so much like not a business owner to try to demand what nothing business owner you in constipation anyone else what are policies that you want to see that are not happening and just you can just start spending on the military absolutely speeding everywhere where Latin accent mean to be running next me or any of my friends who are all that and I've never used this term Latin X before I really don't like the term and the interesting thing about it is the only time you become Latin or lat X is when you're outside of your country if that makes sense cuz when you are where you are you are you are whatever you are wearing yeah I mean identifies enough for latina to me I didn't really I felt separated from I guess the Latin ex community because I wasn't latin enough or whatever because that ones I started to identify with my blackness I didn't know that the two things can be combined I felt like it had to be separate I had no choice till then I've got an education figured out these things you know called the truth and realize that if you know that it's both inclusive so I'm gonna understand why they chose Latin eggs because you know people don't like to be calling Spanish because it's from the Spanish conquistadors and all that stuff but I identify persons in Africa thenar not so much Lennox I didn't even know that word existed until now I don't even think it's a word at all I feel like it's a way for people to kind of you know not offend I mean I might not know the exact origin but I feel like it's a way for people to not use the gender pronouns in Spanish like oh you can't see Latino or latina because we don't really know who they are you know we don't know how they identify themselves and I mean we've been using you know Hispanic people have been using that word for centuries such a long time and for all of a sudden you know have somebody tell me how I can talk or change the way for me to talk it's you know it can be a little insulting Latino Hispanic whatever these words were giving them to us by different people those words actually we didn't use for centuries I don't know or they got that information it's relatively new terms Latin X to me doesn't really make sense I'm gonna be honest with you personally if I go back home to my abuela and I say oh were Latinos were Latinos whatever they're gonna she's gonna be like oh like what what is that what is that yeah I mean and I would say that Lion X instead of saying Latin is forceful it makes people think it is intentional it is something that is critiquing this the current status quo well on that note and thank you so much for this discussion I know I got heated and I know that at the end of the day we still may disagree on many things we may now agree a little bit more but more than anything I'm grateful for you everyone here is very smart and and I yeah I'm just thank you very much for this for this discussion giving us the opportunity

LGBTQ+ Conservatives and Progressives Debate Identity Politics and the 2020 Election (Part 2/2)



one of the reasons I walked away from the Democratic Party liberalism is I'm so fed up with identity politics I am so fed up with political correctness I am so fed up with all ability and everyone here has already said it's lack of policy all identity heir Pete has been mentioned mayor Pete is gay he's been on the cover of magazines with his husband there's having somebody who's gay running right now does that make you want to vote for him mm-hmm I think you should vote on policy yeah I get asked that question all the time it's great to have a gay candidate be great table is being Kennedy or a trans candidate I'm looking at the policy everything else is peripheral I could not care less I mean the fact that he is gay doesn't I think there's such division in the LGBTQ or queer and trans whatever-you-call-it community between gay and trans trans and sis that doesn't mean he has my back as a trans person it doesn't mean that he will have trans affirming policy and supported those most marginalized in the trans community it means nothing to me that he is a gay person because he's also sis and he's also white and he's holding all of those identities and experiences at the same time so I would love to see some firm policy proposals that include trans people and non-binary people we haven't even talked about that yet but I haven't seen that yet I don't know why I'm not more excited about him than I am there's something missing I'm surprised that everybody is so anti Pete I mean I think I know a lot of sort of Pete curious conservatives is that I think you know I think he's very progressive but he's totally moderate and I think even just listening to us I mean everybody's so angry all the time to have somebody who is somewhat aspirational and who is trying to make a pitch for something something better and more they you know something more uniting like why is that so terrible I think it's I think it's nice but one of the reasons I walked away from the Democratic Party in liberalism is I'm so fed up with identity politics I am so fed up with political correctness I am so fed up with all of it in every as already said its lack of policy all identity and that's what he is I mean he's just a gay man with no ideas okay I hate when a lot of conservative folks well not even just conservative folks it's usually just white men across the aisle talk about I knew that was coming because like all identity politics right like you all have been moving through the world with your lens as a white man privileged in many different ways and therefore politics I black college I have never said that I'm not privileged I think we all have the capacity right so that's exactly what we're talking about right I also don't have this privilege and I don't have your privileges with me so like but yet matter you got no more life you don't know my experiences you're basic you're making an assumption about my life and my extreme not using for my stuff right my sexual orientation I know nor we know why not remedy is real never supposed to judge by the content of her character and not by the police I would love to stick to the Merapi question Bonnie I think having him out there and being visible is fantastic for for the community I have a nephew a 12 year old nephew who is a little gay boy and for him to be able to see that there is a gay man who is running for president is fantastic that's meaningful to you it's meaningful to have him there okay I don't I'd rather have a beer with him than vote for him Missy seems like you want to lean in and talk to him some more you know and his fabulous theater loving husband they sound great but okay I don't necessarily think that he's ready to run the country all right all right um so one thing that Jaime brought up was was the terms non-binary and GNC gender non-conforming how do you guys how does everybody here feel about the terms GNC gender non-conforming and non-binary and and the fact that it often falls under the umbrella of LGBTQ does anybody have any thoughts on that sure um so identify as non-binary and trans at the same time I believe non-binary is under the trans umbrella and not binary for me means that I don't identify as a man or a woman I'm neither I am both I am beyond and that has nothing to do with my body my body does not inform my gender I completely reject how non-binary people specifically have injected themselves into the trans label because at the end of the day I'm sure you're an amazing person you and I have wildly different experiences I am a transsexual there is a medical basis for that there's a scientific basis for that and for non-binary it's really not the case I think that non-binary is more of a political term than anything else which is why I've never met a non-binary Republican I'm very libertarian and it's it's clearly an invention of the left in general I also hate how non-binary people often because they tend to be the loudest politically they take over trans conversations I often see non-binary people in the media and on YouTube and on social media deciding what is right for trans people and transsexuals and I hate it because oftentimes it's not in alignment with most trans people I've actually met in my life so do you feel erased because of the term no no one can erase me like I'm I'm here you know what I mean but I mean in terms of them taking over the conversation oftentimes yes I think a lot of the reasons why conservatives and people who are not in the LGBTQ community have a hard time understanding trans people it often goes down to these talking points that were invented by non-binary people and people who are not trans who their lived experience could not be any more different than mine and so if it comes down to conversations about trans people I just wish actual transsexuals were having them and oftentimes it's activists who are non-binary I don't understand your argument that there's too much division that we don't have shared life experiences because among trans people among binary trans people who may go through medical tradition transition there is so much variance you are not a trans woman of color you are not a poor trans woman you have different experiences as a trans person that we need to talk about we cannot parse out at the exact same time to have this conversation yeah everything's nuanced but at the end of the day the a very fine line between someone who's a transsexual and grows up with gender dysphoria grows up saving up that money to get the confirmation surgery as they need going through coming out going through the hardships that specifically transsexuals face it is such a different life than someone who you don't know be my life I'm not saying that but what I'm but a lot of fighting people do not you can say you do and that's fine I completely believe you but a lot of them do not a lot of people a lot of non-binary people are the people who argued that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans and to me that makes absolutely no sense because if you don't have that misalignment in your brain and misalignment in your body and within who you are then transmitting and I've never made that argument I my my support of the trans community always comes at me saying that they're their voices is important and I'm listening majority of the time I don't think the importance of a la ship is just to be in the listen mo and then I use my privilege where necessary if if they say that I need to because I know that I know I'm non-binary I know them gender expensive but I know how I present at the same time but um but but you also made a point that you said that you don't understand how non-binary people are making decisions on behalf of transgender people I think the number one you did kind of erase Jamie's when they said that they are non-binary and trans so let's start there and I think that also we we can we can say that about the whole Republican Party where we have majority white cisgender men making decisions on behalf of everyone do you have thoughts on this um I I don't identify as non-binary I can't speak to that lived experience but there are so many non-binary people that I know who identify that way who fit so so much of the gender spectrum if you will I know very feminine folks and very masculine folks folks were assigned female at birth so folks who are assigned male at birth some people have had hormones but no surgeries and some have had surgeries and no hormones and they're I mean I wouldn't know how else to describe that particular group without using the word non-binary because that's the word that they use so to say you know that the word non-binary is a creation of the left to cause division I I couldn't I couldn't necessarily it is I the political term it was born out of Gender Studies classes it wasn't born out of transsexual people saying well maybe this word works as well and that's that is my point is that I think you're the one that said that I was erasing you as trans I I am like you're not trans like there's a medical definition of being a transsexual and being but what if those not mattering people do you suffer from gender dysphoria Jaime how you do I mean that doesn't make you trans to just suffer from gender dysphoria being trans is having dinner dysphoria and acting upon it to live a life of sexual I think that's different I'm I'm gonna stop you Jaime how are you doing okay okay yeah do you feel like talking you don't have to okay Brendon can I can I say really quick but you know Terminator and actual and transgender were made up right they were clinical terms in a lot of ways initially so we can't use that as like a way of like demeaning people in our community I mean it's really unfortunate that we have to do that when we know outside of this room people don't see any of us or treat any of us with respect but you know why I think the large reason why a lot of people do not understand trans people is because of non-binary and because of all these other identities that we've all talked about are constantly tacked on to the acronym that always worked okay but how is it different when assists woman tells you this you're not a woman or for you to then tell Jaime that they're not friends Jaime you have something to say yes I think this argument has absurd this idea of you're creating more problems you're creating more division you're creating more confusion because that same argument has been used by gays and lesbians against trans people I think it sounds like another argument isn't an argument it doesn't mean it's invalid saying no but it's the exact same logic of saying we're trying to be part of the state you are making this too complicated and in working with the state I'm working with the Trump administration in order to create inclusivity you are erasing me and you're leaving me behind I don't believe in a politic that leaves people behind I say we start from the back see who is the most marginalized see what they need and get their needs first and then everyone explore it at the exact same time do you all feel welcomed by the LGBTQ community the LGBT community is very open to people who believe in the monolith that is known as the LGBTQ community that's interesting yeah I don't I don't think I don't think that they're accepting towards LGBT people with different viewpoints at all okay okay I had a very interesting experience two weeks ago at pride in West Hollywood my husband and I were at a restaurant I was wearing my hat and within a minute or so to women stormed our table and began cussing at me yawn it may screaming and one question like what do you think about gay marriage and I said well this is my husband so I'm for it how about the way he treats Mexicans and I said my name is Ramirez I'm mexican-american and I kind of shut them down with them they continued to yell and scream and try to incite the restaurant against us but I'm I think that the intelligent conversations I've had via the mag AHA have gone much further than the negative vitriol that that is inside of others so it's also a conversation starter fruits okay all right Raquel do you have thoughts on this I mean I think that there is merit in the conversation of not everyone feeling welcome I don't always feel welcome as a as a black trans woman in every space I still think a lot of the spaces that we have that are designated LGBTQ are so dominated by whites as gay men who tend to look a certain way and tend to move through the world in a certain way and bright and so on I find my most power in spaces that are specifically for black and brown trans folks and I you know I believe in that Tony how are you navigating through the LGBT community has been very fascinating for me because I used to feel very comfortable and lesbian bars and then when I started to present more masculine that kind of went away and actually one of my most recent experiences at a lesbian bar was being harassed and assaulted at a lesbian bar in New York City so that was like this crazy shake-up of my whole life changing and then as I mentioned I I am married to a cisgender woman and we were at Stonewall of all places and there was a table of I'm assuming I'm making assumption here sis gay men there who saw us kiss and it was like a cute little like hi baby kiss and we got the ill breeders when are you doing his Stonewall thing and it was like wow kid you have no idea first of all I could have birthed you and you know have been fighting for you know liberation gay liberation queer liberation for longer than you've been around but that's the assumption that they make based on what I look like now I can't believe that you've got 12 gay people here and nobody feels at home in the gay community a community I think and I think that speaks to look each of us has our own individual experiences right we're all humans who just want to like live in the world and and be accepted for who we are and that was sort of what the community used to be and I think part of what were suffering from is the difference between what it meant to be a community of people that was all across the spectrum to being apolitical shoehorned into a political movement you know the the idea that we all have to row in the same direction politically you know is is I think a problem for us as a community are there any questions that you would like to ask each other and if I could ask a question to Blair just to close to I'm curious what you think about the gender binary as a trans person who has experienced dysphoria and I also experienced dysphoria and I think the root of dysphoria and these feelings of transness is because there is a binary because there's a limiting construct social construct that tells people they can be one thing or the other that can be feminine or masculine and I think as a non-binary person non-binary people are actually in the front lines of deconstructing that binary and breaking down those systems of limitation and restriction that I think will allow all of us to be freer so I'm just curious like what what truly is your problem with me because I'm fighting for you I don't have a home with you personally I don't know anything about your life personally I would say well you said then about breaking down the binary but you're kind of just automatically assuming that that is in the best interest of trans people and that's what trans people want I personally have never met a transsexual or trans woman who thinks that that is the way to go in terms of getting acceptance from the larger and okay the first one and you're the first one I know you're miss understand what I say when I when I say break the binary I don't say like get rid of femininity get rid of masculinity get what a rid of women get rid of men I'm not saying that whatsoever I'm saying open up the options let people be and live and exist as their full authentic selves outside of these women I'm not here to limit anyone's options or say that you can't call yourself what you want I mean I have my wallet back I have an issue with trans people people that are not translating they're trans when they're not that's what I have an issue with because I don't have an issue with the non-binary label besides me thinking okay there's not really a ton of science behind it that's fine I don't like I don't like how in the beginning you said that non-binary you consider that to also be trans and that that falls under trans because I think I think that because I think that that again dilutes the message it D medicalize is it which i think is very very bad for trans people I think I'm fine Aryan people need medical intervention as well we need health care we need and that's fine and that's why I would say that I would hope that you guys would you know if you're going to advocate for that do it on behalf of yourselves and not try to squeeze into the tea label a label that historically we are still trying to get people to just understand and be halfway okay with and it doesn't help when 97 genders were squeezed into the tea label because the end of the day at the end of the day being trans is about for most trans people it is about I was born as a boy born as a girl and I identify as the other and what I find often times is this conversation really good example of how non-binary people really dominate the conversation about being trans is that I will get comments sometimes on my Instagram people accusing me of believing in 97 genders and and all those sort of things that are touted by non-binary people just because I'm trans that's a good example of how people don't know what trans is then because trans people are transitioning from one to the other I mean this is a conversation about language too because you're saying most trans people understand transition as a binary if you actually look at research 50% of trans youth identify as non-binary it's a growing community listen to angry but they were always there non-binary feeling something that stated before agree now there's nothing wrong about what you're doing you've just made it political I think that you have a very narrow definition of what trans is and then and that could be respected but that is that just doesn't work for you generalize a lot of trans people you say it for most parents – for most trans people and then I look to my left I'm almost finished so now I look to my left and she's like well she doesn't agree with you and also all of my trans sisters and all my trans brothers that I have in my life support me and they know I support them and they want me to come along with them on this journey as a non-binary person because they know that in order for any of us to be free we all have to be free so that's what that's where my perspective is under your perspective is different thank you for your free on thank you darling I hate it don't tell me what I am good I know that this conversation has been hard for some people I know that you're probably gonna go home and you're gonna think about this and I want to thank you for being here because it's not everybody who's willing to engage in these kinds of conversations this is a difficult thing to do and I have immense respect for each and every one of you for for showing up I really do so thank you so much thank you and with that thank you thank you I think we're gonna wrap this up my god I didn't even ask

Conservatives and Progressives Debate LGBTQ+ Issues in American Politics (Part 1/2)



sometimes it just gets to be too many damn letters like it just you add and let us on so like sometimes that I appreciate it in another time son likes to me damn letters so my name is Ariel my pronouns are she her hers and I am going to be moderating the panel now I just want to call something out right away which is that we tried our best to have as many people from varied backgrounds and varied identities represented here but of course it is impossible for us to represent every single facet of the LGBTQ community so we know that and we just want to call that out so the first thing I want to ask is raise your hand if you identify as a member of the LGBTQ community all right can I have everybody go around and just tell me their names and how they identify sure well my name is Donnie and I use he/him pronouns and I identify as a transgender pansexual or bisexual man my name is Blair I'm transgender and I'm a Republican okay my name is Caleb I use he/she and they pronouns and I identify as a non-binary queer I'm Raquel Willis pronouns she/her/hers identify the black queer transgender woman my name is Sarah Longwell and I identify as a lesbian my name is Jamie I used they/them pronouns identifies a queer non-binary trans femme I also identify the a spectrum of asexuality I'm Benji I'm a guy and I I'm an American my name is Paul I identify as a gay American male my name is Zachary Zane I use he/him pronouns and I identify as bisexual and queer I'm Brandon Strock and I'm a gay man David Val branch him his identify as assists same gender loving man alright my name is Luci I'm a lesbian okay so it's Pride Month who here thinks that pride is still relevant is it still relevant is it you full is it important yeah I think it's more so relevant for people in other countries in which being gay is legalized and you can face jail time or worse death or for being gay and I think here it's more of a party which is fine maaan against parties but I think it's specially important for people living in other countries Zachery your brow is very firm I yeah I don't think we should underestimate the power it has to have certain young queer people just to see other people be visible to be welcomed and part of a community maybe not necessarily as important in cities like New York where I feel very comfortable expressing my queerness but especially in other places across America where they don't have that large of a queer community where being queer isn't as visible I think it's really important to still have pride for those people and I also think it's important because in this day and age we've had what about five black transgender women be murdered in the past couple months and so we do need to actually have a visit 11 yeah so it's even more than that so it's one of those things where if we don't have these images out that we don't have these options for people to realize and understand that they're not alone then all they see are these traumatic experiences and all the discrimination and oppression that is still happening in this country not just in other countries I'm gonna just claim the mantle as the senior spokesman of the group but I went to my first gay bar in 1977 in West Hollywood there were actually bars and restaurants on Santa Monica Boulevard that had signs in front that said no allowed it was a very different place I think pride today should really embrace the changes that we've made over these decades because we've made it a more inclusive society to the point where I think we're one of the most protected groups I know from an employment standard in history so I'd like to see pride really take on a different sort of approach and celebrate what we've overcome in your opinion do you think that we're done working on equality within the LGBTQ community do it is there still a fight to fight from a small town in Texas and where I'm from people do not accept me being gay me being queer and me being gender expensive or anything and I come I was raised two hours away from where Malaysia which black transform woman and Dallas Texas was killed so I don't think that the quality that you know we we want to see the the quality that we should we should see is actually happening in America now I'm sorry could I ask a question because I think this is really important in relevant I I feel like the majority of people who feel like they're still struggling with lack of equality are people who are identifying as queer I don't identify as queer that does not define me that's not a word I want to be called as a gay man so what I'd like to know is what is the definition of queer for the people who identify as queer what does that mean discussion if we don't establish that that's that's a good that's a good conversation that's good point who here identifies as queer raise your hand okay the people who didn't raise their hands why what are your thoughts and feelings on the word queer we were talking before we said like queer we're supposed to be like a put-down or a dis you know to me I look at it myself I'm it's a regular red-blooded American gay guy I don't really see why I have to be all these other letters and all the other stuff added to it it just it I mean not no offense to anyone but it sounds a little bit nuts to me I understand why we have to be all this other stuff like why can't I just be gay and be happy with that why do I have to look that if I'm not you know queer or binary whatever then I'm like privileged in some way and it's like I'm from the hood just like anybody else with all this you know where's all this probably don't post to have coming from I don't get to keep I think that my issue is not what you identify this is when you try to tell me what I should identify as and if I say that I'm queer and I'm binary or if I say I'm a shoe that's my business I don't think I'm just responding what I'm saying is that people who say that queer is is what you said offensive my thing is like why does it matter what I identify as my ID you're claiming it's the source of your oppression what is sorry what do you mean by that Brendon I think you should expand on it well I'm just I'm noticing that the people who say that they're still victimized and oppressed here in this country are the people who are identifying as queer non-binary gender fluid all these and things what is it what does queer mean so I could excuse me I can we can defy like in order for me to support you or not support you I need to understand you have you read up on the word queer have you like googled it yeah have you yeah I mean absolutely the the definition it in the dictionary is a whole laundry list of derogatory terms which I think are apps I think it's I think it's an insult I think it's a slur I think it's low-rent I think it's embarrassing I think it's degrading I think it's something it means weird in the dictionary and if we're trying to get to a place where we normalize our community I don't think labeling us as weird as who Brendan wants to know how do you define the term queer now from what I understand different people view it the word differently but is there somebody here who would like to volunteer some kind of devotion I mean I would love to share I mean I think the term queer like you have the right to feel that it is offensive because we I mean that's the fact we know that it was used offensively as a slur for decades forever and probably and still some circumstances today but people reclaimed it as a word that was more expansive of their experiences right so for a lot of people gay doesn't fit for a lot of people lesbian doesn't fit like these terms were a little bit restrictive when it came to them talking about their identity who they were attracted to what they were into all of that and also from a gender standpoint right there are a lot of people who don't fit into what we consider a binary right that's like man woman kind of idea right so queer is an umbrella term it is expansive I still don't understand really I mean it's supposed to be this an umbrella term but then when if we becomes everything then it's kind of nothing at the same time I still don't have a clear definition it's not that you solvent defined what it is people have some thoughts on that sure so when I think of the term queer I tend to think of somebody who is either not cisgender or not heterosexual that's my impression where we're right you can be those things also but see I I difference well let me explain and I'll see what I can do for you so for my experience as previously a lesbian woman before I came out as a transient man I used the word gay I used the word lesbian I use the word woman to describe me before I realized that that wasn't actually accurate now I am a transgender man who is married to a cisgender woman so people would say I'm a straight man but I'm not straight because I lived as a lesbian for 20 years before I came out as transgender also I like people of all genders so what the heck do I have to call myself now do I call myself a former lesbian bisexual slash pansexual transgender man in order to not use the word queer absolutely not it's do you feel like when you use the word queer people know that you are all of those things that suddenly it becomes crystal clear to people what importance of people is that they know what I'm not and they know that I'm not a cisgender heterosexual I want to sort of expand this conversation a little bit more do you feel represented by the the acronym lgbtqia+ if you know raise your hand if you do if you feel represented by the acronym lgbtqia+ in some way okay right right just on the simple basic level of like there's a T in it and I match that but that's a superficial sort of thing there's much more to me and everyone here I think there's an irony because I'm hearing the people who will say who seem very more opposed to queer are also the same people were opposed to having all the additional letters in the alphabet 100 and since queer then this goes back to Donnie since queer is being more inclusive of those other letters in the alphabet I don't necessarily love all the letters in the alphabet that's why I like the word queer so I can have this one word that is more inclusive of everything so I feel like you either necessarily be remains to be defined no one can define the word I thought I did you really didn't anybody minority just a second anybody who's a minority based on their gender or sexuality right already is covered in LGBT what happens is when you add all these letters it dilutes the message of LGBT in the original fight that we're all talking about and it makes it harder for people that were actually fighting for there's some people appreciate having lgbtqia+ be a thing that exists do they feel like like it it helps them be seen or their friends be seen anybody here don't know at all it's okay sometimes it just gets to be too many damn letter it's like it just you add and let us on so like sometimes that I appreciate it and other times I'm likes to my damn letters like which is why queer is a good option if someone says I use queer cuz I don't want to use although and I don't actually fit under all those letters and to me it's a good option we're technically LGBTQ Qi aap – plus I'm saying like Oh laughter I'm so likes to say like no I'm supporting you in this and saying like yes this is this is a lot and I do understand that Benjy and I have a certain definitely don't feel represented by it because I come you know I'm Republican conservative person so all that stuff I already see is just not for me you know I'm not invited to barbecue I might invite it to the ball you know I'd rather have $25 drinks at Trump DC anyway what I'm saying is that whole thing it's I feel like when you're conservative none of that it affects me I just look at myself as an individual I mean I'm a gay man I'm open I'm probably never been you know in the closet every day of my life but I just feel like when you put all those letters and all those constraints and all these professors are telling you have to think like this and do this and be this and be that that it doesn't represent just a regular guys trying to live his life like me I don't forever is anybody rainbow flag any of it you know I feel like back in the day I did but I feel like now that everything's so politicized that there's really no room for anyone who's conservative BK like even for like pride where am I gonna go you know what I mean I don't have any plans I'm not going anywhere but where would I go without you know being you know kicked out of somewhere God did you wear one of those red hats somewhere and it's like you're a victim so I just feel like the whole spectrum just totally has nothing to do with me as an individual I think that it is clear from the people who are here that the LGBTQ community is not a voting monolith so I would love to know who here identifies as a Democrat if you could raise your hand okay to people all right who here identifies as liberal okay a couple more all right and who here identifies as Republican okay who identifies as conservative okay folks who are conservative and Republicans if you don't mind who did you vote for in the last elections for for president Trump I voted for Donald J Trump okay and I'm gonna do it again Donald J Trump and he gets my vote again all right Hillary Clinton never again 2020 okay Lucy mr. Trump I did not vote for Trump and I will not be voting for him again so I think I may be the only conservative on the panel who is not on the Trump train do you want to tell me why I don't think Trump is a conservative I don't even think he's a Republican I don't think as a person with fixed values of any kind I think he's somebody who stood on the stage with Vladimir Putin and sided with him against our own intelligence community I think he does not believe in human rights or civil rights and he and I share very few values and even though I can say do I support tax cuts or judges or some of the the policy areas where I think I would overlap with some of my other Republican friends this is a values question for me and this is not an administration that reflects my values I totally disagree but how you feel you said you still feel supported by President Trump I'm still won't vote for him again though I like what he's done and I agree with a lot of his more financial decisions when it comes to our country but I mean you're exactly right his executive orders they're not what we need I don't believe the government should be so involved in our lives and I don't think we need to be asking handouts from the government so I'm gonna be looking for someone else for the 2020 elections I actually want to ask you guys how do you feel about the Trump administration when it comes to to LGBTQ folks do you feel that his policies have either helped or harmed the LGBTQ community let you take that because I'm gonna go back to the Reagan years and there's a lot of hatred of Ronald Reagan because he never addressed AIDS that was a big crisis and it was terrible nice you know days going to funerals or memorial services today I think Donald Trump is really changing the Republican Party by working with the gay and lesbian community he wasn't a racist or homophobic tile he ran for president his best friend was Joan Rivers who was like the patron saint of gays if there was a homophobic drop of blood in him we would have heard that 20 years ago I would push back and say he was a racist one since he's been a recent report actually have here the op-ed that Trump put out about Central Park fire there's nothing here mentioned about racism of anything he's talking about having a safe city for black and brown and white people that's a narrative keeps getting pushed and pushed and pushed and we're gonna know your people are saying he did this racial thing I'm putting out the actual op-ed which is actually what we are talking about and there's nothing racial in here when a person takes out a young young boy sorry there's nothing racial there Donny do you have any thoughts on this yeah but I also don't feel like it's really my place to speak for this well I think going back to the original question which is has the Trump administration's policies helped or harmed the LGBTQ community Trump Trump does put out a lot of some sound bites I mean that's that's politics it's soundbite politics in 2019 but these sound bites actually inform policies which inform people's day-to-day perceptions and behaviors and so when the Trump administration or perhaps just Trump via Twitter puts out a statement saying that we're gonna know no more trans people are allowed in the military that's it we're cutting you off and anybody ends got to leave that affects the lives of transgender citizens of this country it makes us appear less than two other people who now can justify their bigotry and their transphobia because look at what the government does look at how the government treats transgender people or thinks of transgender people as being less than if you're so less than that you can't even serve the country that you live in and go and fight and die so that we can continue to have these rights that everybody says that we should have and we should celebrate then you know how worthy are you you're not worthy I think we need to have a more nuanced conversation in our community about military involvement because I think about the politics of the folks at Stonewall right like people still be Rivera was staunchly anti-war and I think we need to have a real conversation on how easy it is for us to jump into patriotism and jump in so feeding this American imperialist machine so that we can assimilate all right 2020 obviously President Trump is running again and there are about 50 billion Democrats running right now there is anybody exciting you worried are you excited at all about the elections and is there somebody that's standing out I know it's early but does anybody stand out right now you know I'd be happy with anyone anyone I'd be happy with anyone who isn't Trump I'm saying that is a joke let me specify me make sure that everybody knows that's a joke before I get attacked I think that it's really difficult to say this early on for me some of my frontrunner none of them are perfect of course Elizabeth Warren if I had to vote right now would have my vote Kamala Harris mayor Pete's adorable but he's not quite adorable enough you know yeah my frontrunner right now is senator Elizabeth Warren as well I appreciate her approach on student loan debt because I got it but also like her calling out the issues there by trans when transgender women are facing right now and not being afraid to say their names really meant a lot to me um so I'm watching her all right David um I think it's early someone was asking me that the other day and I was thinking to myself there's too many damn people like I just want I want it to be whittled down to like five or so and then we can going to the nuances I do think Elizabeth Warren has a lot of pluses I do here this whole undercurrent about Joe Biden is gonna be the only one who could you know beat Trump and also the stuff I think Democrats are gonna have to get over their issues and their egos and they're gonna have to work together and I think it involves having like transgenerational and different genders and having other different races other people like that in a ticket instead of everyone trying to be the head honcho like realize that probably two of y'all would be better so I could see a combination of Elizabeth Warren and someone else or Joe Biden in some way or someone just or someone just young someone just younger like it's exhausting like Barack Obama was 47 when he was voted into office like all these and this is no I'm not trying to be ageist or anything but like when all the candidates are like in their 70s I'm kind of like how long are you gonna be around what's gonna happen and and seriously like we need somebody with a little bit more youthful energy to bring in there so I think a combination ticket to me would be better but I do like Elizabeth Warren just echo what a lot of other people say I have a question that I want to ask of both Lucy and Sarah you are the two people who lean conservative who've told me that you're not going to vote for Trump this year in 2020 so what are you gonna do okay so far I'm I haven't really have had anyone out coming out it's really early to but I suppose what I would say is I wanted to fine who I would want to run is someone who's going to make sure that they're taking care of America first and trying to figure out our problems here look I'm still very hopeful that we get a third party option I think Justin Amash is is thinking about potentially getting in and there still may be another Republican primary challenger I think before the end of the summer we'll know whether or not somebody else is gonna get in I think somebody else should get in I think someone should make a pitch for a 21st century Republican Party that isn't sort of built around a cult of personality around Donald Trump there's a lot of people who could do that young Republican congressman or other folks if we don't get that and I'm forced into a binary choice between Trump and a Democrat gonna really depend on the Democrat I'm never gonna vote for Bernie Sanders there's just no no way and I would probably vote for you know my mom yeah that's right right or in but you know here's the thing look if it's if it's somebody like Joe Biden look do I agree with Joe Biden on most issues I do not but I don't think that the world is going to be plunged into a socialist health scape because of four years of Joe Biden I think you can go back and beat him later with a future leader of the Republican Party who will make a lot more sense to me than Donald Trump mayor Pete has been mentioned mayor Pete is gay he's been on the cover of magazines with his husband does this having somebody who's gay running right now does that make you want to vote for him [Applause] you

How Two First-Time Directors Made a Radical Documentary on Indian Politics



sitting at home when you see news panel discussions you have a very clean idea of politics politics is served to you in very clean snippets but when you see it actually unfolding out in front of you it happens in a very mundane and chaotic way it was more cinematic than anything that we had seen in cinema for the moments to the big news story of the day right in the Delhi election [Applause] very sexy in 2013 arvind kejriwal unknown anti-corruption activist in New Delhi decided to form a new political party and against all odds captured the imagination of India an insignificant man is a political thriller shot by first-time directors Krrish Barranca and venetie Clah who immerse themselves in the heart of this political circus the documentary focuses on behind the scene moments when the news cameras are turned off giving us an intimate look into the drama and intensity of Indian politics this morning we meet the directors in Mumbai to discuss their debut film hi guys how are you doing very very well yeah yeah so should we take a little walk yeah sure thank you for joining me this morning what has the response been and has it been something that y'all were expecting not expecting internationally obviously the response was very warm and you know extremely surprising because a lot of our anxiety was around whether people will understand Indian politics or not by the time we finish the final curtain we showed it in Toronto everybody was sort of getting what it was like everybody understood that okay there are these two huge political parties and then there is this insurgent body that is sort of coming out of the largest democracy in the world even in the US this trend of outside of politics whether it's Trump or Bernie Sanders you know it's people who are outside the system who are using that status as a way to break into this sort of behemoth Arvind has energy he has out-of-the-box thinking he has ability to cut through various things and to come to the core [Applause] he shot some kids never nyeh kiss Kelly have an ayah in the italki leben hier in Bijlee company Oh Kelly when I [Applause] here gently under a gentle Turkish aasif politics in India seems so hard to access untouchable and it seems like you have you really have no idea what's going on behind the scenes this is really like opening the secret door into some whole different space having grown up in a country where politics effects so much of our lives in visible and invisible ways it's amazing that there are very few things on real politics like you go inside politics and you try to investigate who are the people what are they talking about what are they doing what are they you know strategizing I think the film allows people to saw like you said go behind the scenes of politics it's hard to being to hear that that your film is managing to strike a conversation that people are looking to have and yet at the same time it's scary that politics has also divided or polarized conversation so much the tip that people from different ideas are not really willing to talk anymore and somewhere we will hoping to sort of capture that vacuum I know your crowd funded it so khushboo actually came up with the idea of doing a crowdfunding campaign which I completely opposed I said there is no way a political film like this which is a documentary will ever raise a single penny in fact when we I was like there is nobody in this country who's going to give this money they were looking to raise $20,000 and they landed up raising a 120 thousand dollars and I pretty much ate my shoe saying let this clearly work in a manner that I couldn't have ever imagined once the 782 people were on board they really I think became our village like they became our support group it was genuinely the most miraculous and magical thing that happened on the film on that note should we go get some coffee yeah morning how do you navigate those grounds of keeping your personal politics at bay you're right that everybody brings their own politics on the table because the two of us work or directing the project we had the privilege of exchanging opinions and arguments or each scene wherein we decided at one point that our only idea that we were going to focus on was idealism versus politics mm-hm and scenes which helped us elaborate on that idea are the ones that we are going to try and stick with and so for us it was very important to get our film almost proofread by as many trustworthy sources as possible and ultimately the film that's coming out and the film that people are watching is resonating with them because it's a universal story of Suburbia Hwy you can achieve tomorrow we were shooting with very small DSLRs to make sure that we remain anonymous to make sure that you know people we're not observers as much so there are no rigs we would mean could you just pull focus on camera and try and stay out of people's way but that meant that we had to be close to every character how many people were actually handling camera because I know you guys gotten a couple of students as well from Delhi so initially there was the two of us then we got a friend from Bombay to join us in Delhi to find camera and so on people is actually much more expensive so we had no money we went to colleges and got students trained them in camera and sound and a lot of the amazing stuff that is in the film right now has been shot by first time you know filmmakers for us one of the things that we were also most proud was that the crew was actually more than 50% female and which on a political documentary like this which is so like you're going into spaces which are so so dramatic I think it was incredible in a lot of ways yeah these young women who went and a space where normally you wouldn't see a lot of gender diversity at all yeah and she over these you know young women were going in you know shooting and it was amazing in a way one see with Hanson I have yours faced any major resistance to the film we premiered the film at Toronto International Film Festival and then we wanted to sort of release this film in India and we applied to the censor board for certificate so that it can be shown publicly widely in India the censor board told us that we you know really clear your film and you know you you can go out and show the film in India widely all you need to do is get us a permission letter from the Prime Minister of India from the X Chief Minister of Delhi Sheila Dikshit from Arvind Kejriwal who's seen in the film and beep out the names of Congress and BJP which are the two leading parties in heah and once you do all of this we let you release the film and their ground was even though you're using public footage of these leaders and within the case of mr. Kejriwal who is the protagonist of the film of sorts they said you're criticizing mr. Kejriwal hence you must get a get his permission as well in a written letter and that's how we let you release the film and we said you know that this sounds bizarre if you're not going to be able to use speeches and publicly available public anyway shown on news channel yeah and public footage of your leaders if you're not going to use public footage of your leaders how are you going to critique them without their permission yeah like if tomorrow you tell me I can't use a speech of the prime minister to analyse what he did after that speech it doesn't make sense if for example if Michael Moore was to go and ask George Bush for his permission before releasing Fahrenheit 9/11 that film will would have never come up so we decided to of course a you know fight back and that took a long time because we knew if we are you know a lot of her friends told us that just released the film online and get done with this but we decided to sort of take the film to the tribunal and there was an extensive legal due diligence done and the tribunal ruled in our favor and said that what the f what the censor board was asking was completely in unconstitutional and so much like after a six month long campaign we're in the International Documentary Association stepped in a couple of European body stepped in there was a lot of international pressure that's how we managed to get this film out so yeah so it's been a long journey genetic idolatress una vaca litmus test karate Ginetta delicate surgery key to now available kg velocity v portugal is a pretty much for a large uptick in functional have members from the AAP watch the film has admin watch the AAP we screened the film for them we were a nervous before the screening because we were like you know how are these people gonna react they saw the film and they had a very distinct reaction to the film like you mean he saw the film a arvind saw the film and he said yeah it's interesting and we were like what does that mean does he like it or does he not like it and then we were talking to you know our our friends who would document if you'll make it and they said you know you have to understand people find it very difficult to watch the film about themselves and and and and and agree or disagree with it right away unfortunately we don't have like that kind of access to him where in we know we can ask him again what do you think about it because once we stopped shooting in 2014 early 2014 we completely broke contact with him or with the political party because we wanted to sort of you know be in go into what has happened in their lives and mm-hmm it was very also while we were filming they didn't really think that we were serious filmmakers they thought that they had let a couple of college students in who were doing this project on their DSLRs which was going on forever mhm that we came back with a full-blown one-and-a-half hour cinematic film was already quite a revelation to them it's just been a real privilege to be able to chat with you guys about this because this is really really an incredibly exciting film thank you so much I really hope as many people as possible can watch it thank you so much thank you thank you very much you