‘The Five’: Media calls Iraq embassy attack ‘Trump’s Benghazi’


JUST TWO DAYS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION RESPONDED BY SENDING HUNDREDS OF TROOPS. SOME OUTLETS SLAMMING THE PRESIDENT IS EVEN TRYING TO LABEL THE INCIDENT AS TRUMP’S BENGHAZI. HERE’S A LOOK AT SOME OF THE COVERAGE.>>YOU’VE GOT THEM STOKING ANTI-AMERICANISM, GIVING AN ADVANTAGE TO IRAN. SPEAK OF THIS GOES BACK TO A RELEASE STRATEGIC DECISION THAT THE PRESIDENT MADE.>>THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT HELPFUL.>>THESE ARE TOUGH TIMES AND ONE WORRIES WHETHER THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE SORT OF HORSE POWER AND BRAINPOWER TO DEAL WITH THEM.>>Dana: AND MSNBC PILING ON, CALLING THE EMBASSY ATTACKED TRUMP’S BENGHAZI. OTHER OUTLETS UNDER FIRE FOR LABELING THE IRANIAN BACKED MILITANTS AS JUST PROTESTERS. TO “THE NEW YORK TIMES” IS ALSO FACING SIMILAR CRITICISM FOR DESCRIBING THE ATTACKERS AS MOURNERS. A FORMER BENGHAZI TEAM MEMBER IS BLASTING THE BENGHAZI COMPARISON.>>IT’S NOT REALLY SIMILAR AT ALL. IT’S NOT ANOTHER BENGHAZI. IT’S NOT EVEN TRUMP’S BENGHAZI APPEARED TO ME, IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BENGHAZI. ALL PERSONNEL WERE EVACUATED. THERE WAS NO INVESTOR THEY ARE TO BE KILLED LIKE THEY LEFT THE INVESTOR IN BENGHAZI.>>Dana: LAWRENCE, THERE WOULDN’T BE COMPARISONS TO BENGHAZI IF THERE WASN’T A BENGHAZI. AND IT REALLY IS NOT COMPARABLE.>>Lawrence: AT ALL. THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RIOT, HE WAS ALSO THERE, AND COORDINATED ATTACK AND THE RESPONSE WAS ALSO DIFFERENT. THERE WERE NO LIVES LOST. THE FACT IS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IMMEDIATELY AND THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT, THE SECRETARY OF STATE ALL STEPPED IN AND MADE SURE THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE, THE MARINES WERE ALREADY THERE, PEOPLE WERE BEING SHIFTED AND NOBODY DIED. I JUST THINK THIS SHOWS YOU HOW FAR THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO GO TO GIVE COVER TO DEMOCRATS. AND YOU’D THINK WHEN IT COMES TO NATIONAL SECURITY, FOREIGN POLICY, ALTHOUGH WE MAY HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES, WHEN IT COMES TO ATTACK, WE SHOULD BE UNIFIED.>>Dana: YOU KNOW PROBABLY MORE ABOUT THIS ATTACK THAN ANYBODY HERE SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ATTEMPTS TO COMPARE THIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN BENGHAZI WAS A VIDEOMAKER GOT ARRESTED AND BASICALLY THEY DID A WALK OF HIM SAYING THE VIDEO SPARKED THE ATTACK WHEN WE KNOW THAT WASN’T TRUE.>>Marie: THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. THE COMPOUND IN BAGHDAD IS VERY WELL PROTECTED. A BETTER COMPARISON TO BENGHAZI WAS AN ATTACK EARLIER IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHEN FOUR MEMBERS OF THE ADMINISTRATION WERE KILLED IN A VERY BOTCHED OPERATION. I DON’T THINK THE COMPARISON IS FAIR HERE. SOME PEOPLE IN THE CLIPS WEREN’T TALKING ABOUT BENGHAZI, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP STRATEGY IS VIS-A-VIS IRAN AND WHETHER HE HAS ONE, FRANKLY. MY CONCERNS ARE NOT ABOUT THE BENGHAZI, IT’S ABOUT MUCH OF WHAT TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE IN IRAN, THE IG FEELS LIKE THEY SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEIR MILITIAS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA TO DO THIS AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RESPOND. THE ISRAELIS HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF KINETIC ACTION AGAINST SHIITE MILITIAS BACKED BY IRAN BUT THEY DO IT MUCH MORE QUIETLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SEND A MESSAGE BUT NOT PROVOKE SOME OF THE OUTRAGE WE’VE SEEN ON THE GROUND WHICH CAN PUT SOME OF OUR PEOPLE IN HARM’S WAY’S. THE RESULT OF THAT IS WE DON’T OF PEOPLE ON THE GROUND DOING AMERICAN DIPLOMACY.>>Dana: THEY ARE THERE TO HELP PROTECT THEM BUT ONE REASON IRAN HAS BEEN ABLE TO TRAIN UP ALL THESE OTHER MILITIAS IS BECAUSE THEY GOT HIM BECAUSE THEY GOT AIM BECAUSE THEY GOT A LOT OF MONEY DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.>>Tom: WHAT DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT DOESN’T MAKE?>>Dana: CALLBACK, THAT IS A CALL BACK RIGHT THERE.>>Tom: I WANT TO SHAME THE MEDIA ON THIS BECAUSE THE HEADLINES FROM IT LOOKS LIKE “THE WASHINGTON POST” AND “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” THEY HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN — THERE ARE PROTESTS IN IRAQ SIX OCTOBER. THIS IS WHAT YOU’VE SEEN ON TWITTER, I AM ONE OF THE REAL PROTESTERS, I’VE BEEN PROTESTING THIS GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY ANGRY IN IRAQ, THEY WANT REFORMS. THEY CAME IN AND PIGGYBACKED ON THOSE PROTESTS AND THE MEETING NEEDS TO DIFFERENTIATE AND THEY ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.>>Dana: THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE THAT BUT WE HAVE SOME SOUNDS HERE FROM PRESIDENT PRESIDENT TRUMP — I’M LIKE, EMILY? I LOOKED UP AND I WAS LIKE, I’M GOING TO REMEMBER YOUR NAME. I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS, ACTUALLY. WE’VE BEEN WORKING DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND IF YOU’RE LIKE ME YOU ARE LIKE, IS IT FRIDAY? AS OF MONDAY? I HAVE NO IDEA. TAKE A LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO OBVIOUSLY KNOWS WHAT DAY IT IS.>>WE HAD SOME GREAT WARRIORS COME IN, DO A FANTASTIC JOB. THEY WERE THERE INSTANTANEOUSLY. AS SOON AS WE HEARD, I USED THE WORD IMMEDIATELY. THEY CAME IN IMMEDIATELY. GREAT SHAPE. AS YOU KNOW, THIS WILL NOT BE A BENGHAZI. BENGHAZI NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. THIS WILL NEVER, EVER BE A BENGHAZI.>>Emily: IT IS NOT COMPARABLE ON ANY LEVEL. WE HAVE MADE EFFORTS NOT TO BACK IRANIAN MILITIAS AS WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING ISIS THIS WHOLE TIME, AND THE CONTINUED AGGRESSION WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE IS A BIT OF NEBULOUS NOTES AND STRATEGY IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE TAKEN THAT HARD LINE STANCE WITH A VERY ARTICULABLE POSITION THAT WILL SERVE US WELL IN THE LONG TERM. I THINK THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT, OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE IN A DIFFICULT POSITION BUT REGARDLESS, THEY NEED TO TAKE A STANCE, THEY NEED TO PROTECT OUR EMBASSY, AND TO YOUR POINT NOT

‘The Five’ reacts to actors backtracking on Trump donor boycott


>>LIBERAL CELEBRITIES, NOW BACKTRACKING AFTER CALLING FOR TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO BE OUTE OUTED. CLAIMING THEY WERE “MISINTERPRETED.” HE POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT HE DOESN’T SUPPORT DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND AND RETWEETED THE STATEMENT SAYING, “I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER.” SO, YOU HAVE WORKED IN HOLLYWOOD FOR A LOT OF TIME. YOU WORK WITH A LOT OF CELEBRITIES. WERE YOU SURPRISED TO SEE BACKLASH ON THE LEFT WAS TO MARK>>THANK GOODNESS FOR WHOOPI GOLDBERG. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT SHE SAID. THERE IS NO WAY THAT ERIC McCORMICK WAS MISQUOTED. HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT HE THOUGHT. GIVE ME A LIST OF THE PEOPLE SO I KNOW WHO I DON’T WANT TO WORK WITH. DEBRA MESSING WAS RIGHT THERE TO BACK HIM UP. IT WAS REALLY TERRIFYING. HE IS GUILTY OF SAYING SOMETHING THAT HOLLYWOOD’S IS THINKING AND JUST ISN’T SAYING OUT LOUD. THIS IS PROBABLY THE END OF MY HOLLYWOOD CAREER RIGHT HERE. AFTER THIS, I WILL BE WASHING CARS. IT’S GREAT. NO, IT’S REALLY SCARY, AND THERE’S THIS BIG RAH RAH IN HOLLYWOOD. BECAUSE THEN THEY ARE THE COOL KID. IT’S LIKE THROWING ROCKS AT A BUILDING AND BREAKING WINDOWS. LOOK AT ME. I DESTROYED SOMETHING.>>NOW, THEIR CLAIM IS THAT WE JUST WANT TRANSPARENCY. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BRING TRANSPARENCY TO THE PROCESS. BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT ERIC McCORMICK SAID. HE SAID, SO THE REST OF US CAN BE CLEAR ABOUT WHO WE WANT TO WORK WITH. THAT’S NOT ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.>>Juan: I AGREE. I THINK THAT THAT WAS OVER THE LINE. I THINK THAT’S WHY YOU SEE HIM GETTING CALLED OUT. I GUESS THAT’S CITIZENS UNITED. POLITICAL DONATIONS ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF FREE SPEECH. WELL, IF IT’S FREE SPEECH, LET US HEAR YOU. WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. THAT’S WHY WHEN YOU SAW JOAQUIN CASTRO, HE SAID, OH, HERE’S THE LIST OF TRUMP DONORS. THE RIGHT PEOPLE GOT SO UPSET. HERE’S A LIST OF THE PEOPLE STEVE ROSS IS INVITING TO A FUND-RAISING EVENT. WHAT’S SO SECRET? WHY SHUNTED AMERICANS KNOW?>>Jesse: BECAUSE THE LEFT ARE CRAZY. THEY WILL PROBABLY TRY TO ASSAULT THESE PEOPLE.>>Jesse: THE RIGHT DOES NOT BOY CAT OR ANY OF THAT STUFF.>>PERMISSION GRANTED.>>Jesse: A LOT OF THESE HOLLYWOOD ACTRESSES ARE VERY CODDLED. THEY’VE NEVER BEEN TOLD NO. THEY HAVE A TEAM AROUND THEM TELLING THAT EVERYTHING THEY’RE DOING IS NOBLE AND RIGHTEOUS. WHEN THEY GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND SAY LET’S BLACKLIST OUR OWN FELLOW ACTORS AND ACTRESSES. THEIR TEAM FINALLY GETS AROUND THEM AND SAYS, “THIS IS TRASHY. YOU CAN’T DO THAT.” IT’S LIKE A CHILD GETTING SLAPPED DOWN AND THEN THEY HAVE TO WALK IT BACK. HE WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN HE EXPLAINED IT. IT’S LIKE SOMEONE STEALS YOUR BIKE, AND THEN YOU SAY, I WAS JUST BORROWING IT. NO YOU WEREN’T. YOU WERE RACING AND THE OTHER DIRECTION. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY’VE GOT TO LEARN THEIR LESSON. A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE DON’T REALLY KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE NEWEST AND ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY ARE VERY EASILY EXPOSED.>>I’M JUST GLAD THAT THIS IS HAPPENING OPENLY. FOR SO MANY YEARS, THIS BLACKLIST STUFF HAPPENED BEFORE CLOSE DOORS. NOW, CELEBRITIES FEEL EMPOWERED TO PUT IT FRONT AND CENTER.>>Dana: THAT’S A VERY GOOD POINT. TWITTER HAS EXPOSED A LOT OF PEOPLE. TWITTER IS FREE SPEECH. IT DOESN’T MAKE IT SMART SPEECH. SO, LIKE I SAID YESTERDAY, THIS ALWAYS GIVES TRUMP ANOTHER MAN IN THE GAME. HE’S JUST LIKE, OH, I’LL TAKE ANOTHER ONE. I’LL TAKE ANOTHER ONE. EVERYBODY’S GOING, OH, BOY. YOU GUYS SHOULD IT SAY THAT. YOU’RE JUST HELPING HIM. IT’S PROBABLY NOT WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO. I THINK THAT THEY WERE MISUNDER INTERPRETED.>>SO YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO GET BETTER OR WORSE? IS IT GOING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE CELEBRITIES REALIZE THAT IF THERE IS BACKLASH ON THEIR SIDE, SAYING, HOLD ON, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, IS THIS GOING TO STOP CUSTOMER>>NO. THE TWEETING WON’T MIGHT S THE TWEETING WON’T MIGHT O THE TWEETING WON’T MIGHT . IT WILL JUST BECOME MORE SECRETIVE. YOU WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT YOU VOTED FOR TRUMP. YOU WILL NEVER ADMIT THAT YOU LEAN TO THE RIGHT. HOLLYWOOD IS FULL OF LIBERTARIANS. IT ALWAYS KILLS ME WHEN THESE HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE LIKE JIM CARREY IS HALFWAY SOCIALIST NOW. IT’S LIKE, DUDE, YOU CAME TO AMERICA WITH NOTHING BUT THE CLOSE ON YOUR BACK, YOU WORKED REALLY HARD, YOU HAD A SKILL AND A WHOLE LOT OF LUCK, AND LOOK AT THAT. YOU’VE ACHIEVED SOMETHING. TO HAVE THESE PEOPLE LIKE TURN THEIR BACK ON THE AMERICAN DREAM, IT’S SAD, BUT IT IS THE REALITY.>>Jesse: HE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE ALL-TIME GREAT COMEDIES IN THE INDUSTRY, AND THEN HE GOES AND RUINS IT.>>Juan: I DON’T THINK HE RUNS IT. BUT AGAIN, JESSE, THE JOE McCARTHY ERA AND BLACKLISTING WAS DONE BY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT.>>Dana: THAT’S WHY NOBODY DOES IT ANYMORE.>>Juan: REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO JOE McCARTHY? HAVE YOU KNOW DIGNITY?>>Jesse: OKAY. ISN’T IT IRONIC HOW THEY ARE NOW

‘The Five’ reacts to Trudeau’s blackface photo scandal


WE ARE IN NEW YORK CITY AND THIS IS “THE FIVE.” ANOTHER PROMINENT LIBERAL CAUGHT IN A RACIST PHOTO SCANDAL. CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU FACING A FIRESTORM OVER WEARING A BLACK FACE IN A 2001 PHOTO. IT HAPPENED DURING AN ARABIAN KNIGHT THEMED PARTY AT A SCHOOL WHERE HE WAS A 29-YEAR-OLD TEACHER. TRUDEAU APOLOGIZING LAST NIGHT BUT THEN TWO MORE EXAMPLES EMERGED. ONE FROM HOSPITAL IN THE 1990S WHERE HE IS WEARING A WIG PERFORMING A JAMAICAN FOLK SONG AT A TALENT SHOW. THE OTHER A VIDEO SHOWING HIM IN BLACK FACE WAVING HIS HANDS AROUND AND STICKING HIS TONGUE OUT. TRUDY TRUDEAU FORCE TO APOLOGY GUIDE AGAIN THIS AFTERNOON. HE HIT ALL THE LIBERAL BUZZ WORDS INTERSECTIONALITY AND UNCONSCIOUS BIAS AND HE DIDN’T RULE OUT THAT THERE COULD BE MORE PHOTOS.>>I APPRECIATE CALLING IT MAKEUP BUT IT WAS BLACK FACE. AND THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT. I DIDN’T SEE THAT FROM THE LAYERS OF PRIVILEGE THAT I HAVE. I AM WEARY OF BEING DEFINITIVE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THE RECENT PICTURES THAT CAME OUT I HAD NOT REMEMBERED.>>Jesse: THIS SCANDAL IS EXPOSING TRUDEAU’S OFF THE CHARTS HYPOCRISY. HE HAS FASHIONED HIMSELF AS THE PRIME MINISTER OF WOKE AND A LIBERAL FOR COUNTER WEIGHT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. WATCH.>>I WILL KEEP SAYING I’M A FEMINIST UNTIL AS YOU SAY IT’S MET WITH YEAH, WE KNOW THAT MOVE ON. WE SHOULDN’T BE TALKING ABOUT TOLERANCE. WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE AND FRIENDSHIP AND RESPECT.>>WE SHOULDN’T BE AFRAID OF THE WORD FEMINIST. MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD USE IT TO DESCRIBE THEMSELVES ANY TIME THEY WANT.>>THE FUTURE OF MANKIND. SO WE WOULD LIKE.>>WE LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE KIND NOT NECESSARILY MANKIND. IT’S MORE INCLUSIVE. [LAUGHTER]>>Jesse: OKAY. JEDEDIAH, WENT FROM WOKE TO A JOKE IN ABOUT ONE NIGHT AND DO YOU THINK HE CAN SURVIVE?>>Jedediah: THIS GUY IS LAYERS DEEP OF INSUFFERABLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SOME POLITICIANS ARE INSUFFERABLE. THIS GUY HAS LAYERS OF IT. IT’S CRAZY TO ME THIS THIRD INSTANCE, HE WAS 29 YEARS OLD. HE WAS A TEACHER. THAT’S A GROWN MAN. THAT’S NOT A STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL THAT CAN YOU SAY OH, YOU KNOW, I WAS AN IDIOT KID. YOU ARE 29 YEARS OLD. YOU ARE GROWN. AND YOU STILL DON’T KNOW. MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS IS THE QUOTE HE GIVES WHEN HE SAYS I DIDN’T CONSIDER IT RACIST AT THE TIME BUT NOW WE KNOW BETTER. THAT WAS IN 2001. IN — THIS WAS NOT A PHOTO THAT SOMEBODY TOOK IN 1960 OF SOMEONE WHERE YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE TIMES ARE DIFFERENT. PEOPLE DIDN’T REALIZE THE SEVERITY OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THEY DIDN’T REALIZE HOW OFFENSIVE IT WAS. IN 2001. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AT THIS TABLE WAS AN ADULT IN 2001 WHO KNEW WELL AND GOOD ENOUGH THAT YOU DON’T PUT BLACK FACE ON AND BEHAVE THIS WAY AS A GROWN ADULT TEACHING ALSO YOU ARE A TEACHER WHAT KIND OF EXAMPLE ARE YOU SETTING? THIS GUY WITH ALL HIS P.C. NONSENSE AND ALWAYS TRYING TO SEEM SO WONDERFUL AND OH, I SUGAR COAT ALL MY WORDS NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE. HE IS BRACING US FOR MORE STUFF THAT’S COMING. HE WOULDN’T HAVE SAID THERE COULD BE MORE PHOTOS. I GUARANTEE THERE IS GOING TO SEE SOMETHING EVEN WORSE THAN THIS COMING DOWN THE PIKE.>>Jesse: SHOULD HE RESIGN, JUAN?>>Juan: NO. IT’S ALMOST LIKE AS A BLACK PERSON I SHOULD STAY OUT OF THIS CONVERSATION. I’M INTERESTED TO LEARN. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT JEDEDIAH SAID IS EXACTLY RIGHT. I THINK THAT IF YOU ARE 29 YEARS OLD, YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THINGS LIKE BIRTH OF A NATION AND MINSTREL SHOWS AND, YOU KNOW, DEPICTING THE OTHER MINORITIES AND IT COULD BE ORIENTALISM AS IT’S CALLED OR DEPICTING IRISH PEOPLE AS DRUNKS. YOU COULD GO ON WITH ALL THE LANGUAGE THAT WE IN AMERICA KNOW TOO WELL. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THE OTHER IS LAZY, DUMB, YOU KNOW, NOT A GOOD WORKER. NOT TO BE TRUSTED. AND IT’S ALL A BASIS FOR RACIST BEHAVIOR FOR EXCLUDING PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM HERE IS I FIND IT SO INTERESTING, AS, YOU KNOW FROM, A POLITICAL ANALYST POINT OF VIEW, HE IS BEING ATTACKED IN CANADA AS NOT AS ADVERTISED. THAT IS THE SLOGAN BEING USED BY CONSERVATIVES IN CANADA TO ATTACK TRUDEAU DURING A VERY CLOSE RACE. I THINK THE ELECTION IS OCTOBER 21st. AND HE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MOVE AHEAD OF HIS CONSERVATIVE CHALLENGER. AND NOW THE QUESTION IS WHAT ABOUT THE LIBERALS IN CANADA? SO YOU DEPICT HIM AS A HYPOCRITE. BUT THE LIBERALS IN CANADA NOW START TO AGREE WITH THE CONSERVATIVES IN CANADA THAT WELL, MAYBE THIS GUY SHOULDN’T BE THE SWORD CARRIER FOR LIBERAL IDEOLOGY. HE PREVIOUSLY HAS MADE HIS CABINET, A CABINET THAT HE SAYS LOOKS LIKE CANADA. IT’S DIVERSE. IT’S ONE HALF WOMEN.>>Jesse: RIGHT.>>Jesse: IS HE FOR REAL?>>Jesse: YOU DON’T THINK HE SHOULD RESIGN. WHAT ABOUT IF REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN IN 2001 HAD A BLACK FACE LIKE THAT. DO YOU STILL THINK THEY SHOULD HANG ON AND FIGHT IT THE WAY TRUDEAU IS?>>Juan: NO, THAT’S A DIFFERENTIAL DYNAMIC, JESSE.>>Jesse: DIFFERENT DYNAMIC WHEN IT’S A DIFFERENT POLITICAL PARTY.>>Juan: IN THIS COUNTRY FOR SURE ARE YOU KIDDING? THAT’S WHY YOU ARE ASKING THE QUESTIONS.>>Jesse: WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS.>>Juan: REPUBLICANS WITH THIS PRESIDENT HAVE A DIFFICULT HISTORY AND DIFFERENT PATH WHEN IT COMES TO RACE.>>Jedediah: THAT’S NOT FAIR, JUAN.>>Jesse: REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THE ONE THAT FREED THE SLAVES.>>Jesse: REPUBLICAN IN ALABAMA IS STILL IN OFFICE.>>Jesse: I DISAGREE IT MATTERS IF IT’S REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT IT’S BAD NO MATTER WHICH PARTY DOES IT. DANA?>>Dana: THE ELECTION IS ALREADY VERY CLOSE. ASIDE FROM THIS INCIDENT THERE IS A BIG ETHICS SITUATION THAT’S BEEN DOGGING THE TRUDEAU INVESTIGATION FROM THE BEGINNING. SO FAR THE FRENCH MEDIA HAS STAYED VERY MUCH IN HIS CORNER. THAT’S WHERE HIS POLITICAL FOUNDATION IS UP IN THE QUEBEC AREA. REMEMBER, HE WAS KIND OF CANADA’S PRESIDENT OBAMA. HE WAS HOPE AND CHANGE. AND HE WAS THE POLITICAL DYNASTY OF THE TRUDEAUS. THE ENGLISH MEDIA, HOWEVER, IS REALLY GOING AFTER HIM VERY HARD. BUT, IF YOU THINK OF RALPH NORM, VIRGINIA, THE PEOPLE THERE HAVE PRETTY SHORT MEMORIES. IF YOU CAN ALL RIGHT STORM NORMENT IS LIKE I’M NOT REALLY SURE IF THAT’S ME. I DON’T REALLY KNOW. TRUDEAU HAS A DIFFERENT TACTIC I’M GOING TO GO ALL IN AND APOLOGIZE AND HOPE HE CAN GET THROUGH IT.>>Jesse: THAT WAS IN 18984 RALPH NORTHAM AND THIS IS IN 2001. THE SITUATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENTIAL. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAVE YOU TRUDEAU AND SOME OF THESE HIGHLAND HOGHLAND HOLLLAND HOLLYWND HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES. ACTORS IN BLACK FACE ALWAYS THE MOST VOCAL PEOPLE WHEN ACCUSING OTHER PEOPLE OF BEING RACIST. CAN YOU ACCUSE SOMEONE OF BEING A RACIST IF YOU WEAR BLACK FACE? I DON’T THINK YOU CAN.>>Mike: IT WAS AMAZING TO WATCH THE MEDIA CONGRESS FEW AND THEN I MIGHT HAVE DONE DAO. SERIOUSLY YOU DID THE BANANA SONG? CRAZY. HE WASN’T EVEN DONE APOLOGIZING AND DON LEMON ON CNN ISN’T THAT NICE HE? APOLOGIZED. TRUMP WOULD NEVER APOLOGIZE. IT WAS INSANE. TRUMP COULD COME OUT OF A BURNING BUILDING CARRYING ORPHANS THEY WOULD BE LIKE WHY DID YOU START THE FIRE AND WHAT’S WITH THE BLACK ON THE FACE, DONALD. THE TRUDEAU THING, THERE IS MORE COMING. I GUARANTEE THERE IS MORE COMING.>>Dana: HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU DRESS UP AS AN ADULT.>>EXACTLY. BUDDY DRESSES UP LIKE A WOMAN HALLOWEEN AND DOES IT NEXT HALLOWEEN.>>Jesse: THERE IS A THING THERE.>>HE THINKS OF HIMSELF AS CANADA’S BARACK OBAMA. HE IS ACTUALLY CANADA’S BETO O’ROURKE. HE SOUNDS COMPLETELY PHONY AND/OR COMMITTEES STRAIGHTED. I DON’T BELIEVE ANYTHING HE TALKS ABOUT THIS NEED FOR DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION. I DON’T BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE SPEAKS HIS PAST AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AS A REALITY WHAT’S GOING ON IN HIS LIFE AS A GROWN ADULT MAN REFLECTS THAT BETO DOES THE SAME THING HERE. HE GETS UP ON THESE PODIUMS AND SAYS ALL THIS STUFF. YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE SITTING AT HOME AND SOMEBODY ELSE WROTE IT AND HE IS DELIVERING IT AND NOT AUTHENTIC. THAT’S HOW I HAVE ALWAYS FELT ABOUT THIS GUY AND HIS PAST IS PROVING IT TRUE.>>Juan: I’M ASSUMING IS HE SPEAK FROM THE HEART. I’M NOT GOING TO CALL THE GUY HYPOCRITE. HE SAYS UNCONSCIOUS RACISM SORT OF IMPLICIT CASUAL RACISM. HE JUST THOUGHT — HE DIDN’T UNDERSTAND HOW PRIVILEGED HE WAS AND HOW OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT INTERPRET THIS.>>Jedediah: 29?>>Jesse: JUAN, BE SERIOUS FOR A SECOND. IT’S 2001.>>Juan: RIGHT.>>Jesse: YOU CAN HAVE SO MUCH PRIVILEGE. YOU CAN HAVE PRIVILEGE COMING OUT OF YOUR EYEBALLS AND STILL KNOW THAT BLACK FACE IN 2001 NOT A GOOD MOVE.>>Juan: I AGREE.>>Mike: SUBCONSCIOUSLY WORK THROUGH THAT ISSUE ONLY BY DRESSING IN BLACK FACE CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE RACISM.>>Juan: IF YOU ARE INVITED TO ARABIAN KNIGHT THEMED PARTY WOULD YOU SAY I BETTER BE CAREFUL?>>Dana: I WOULD GO AS A CAMEL.>>Jedediah: COUPLE HUMPS CLEAN. OR YOU WEAR THE ROBE, JUAN. YOU DON’T HAVE TO WATER BLACK FACE.>>Jedediah: DID HE THIS TWICE BEFORE AND IT OCCURRED TO HIM LET ME DO IT AGAIN.>>Dana: REMEMBER WHEN HE WAS PRIME MINISTER AND HE WENT TO INDIA AND HIS WHOLE FAMILY DRESSED UP IN INDIA

‘The Five’ react to 2020 Democrats’ climate change marathon


“THE FIVE” .” ♪ ♪>>Dana: THE WAR ON MEAT, PLASTIC STRAW MAN, THESE ARE THE EXTREME 2020 IDEAS DEMOCRATS ARE PROPOSING. CHECK OUT SOME OF THEIR OLD STATEMENTS. SPEAK OF THIS U.N. REPORT, 11 YEARS THAT WE HAVE LEFT.>>DO YOU BAN PLASTIC STRAWS?>>I THINK YOU SHOULD, YEAH.>>PEOPLE SAY WE ARE GOING TO BE OKAY IF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION WAS VEGETARIAN IMMEDIATELY.>>THIS IS ON PAR WITH WORLD WAR II.>>Dana: BUT THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL MOMENT OF THE NIGHT COMING FROM BERNIE SANDERS WITH THIS ANSWER ABOUT CUTTING GLOBAL POPULATION GROWTH TO FIGHT GLOBAL WARMING.>>IN MEXICO CITY AGREEMENT WHICH HE DENIES AID TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT ALLOW WOMEN TO HAVE ABORTIONS OR EVEN GET INVOLVED IN BIRTH CONTROL, TO ME, IS A TOTALLY ABSURD. I THINK ESPECIALLY IN POOR COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, WHERE WOMEN DO NOT NECESSARILY WANT TO HAVE LARGE NUMBERS OF BABIES, AND WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THROUGH BIRTH CONTROL TO CONTROL THE NUMBER OF KIDS THEY HAVE. SOMETHING I VERY, VERY STRONGLY SUPPORTED.>>Dana: LET ME PHRASE THE QUESTION HE GOT FROM THE AUDIENCE. THE PLANET CANNOT SUSTAIN THIS GROWTH, TALKING ABOUT HUMAN POPULATION. I REALIZE THIS IS A POISONOUS TOPIC FOR POLITICIANS BUT IT’S CRUCIAL TO FACE. EMPOWERING WOMEN AND EDUCATING EVERYONE ON THE NEED TO CURB POPULATION GROWTH SEEMS REASONABLE. SHE ASKS IF ANYONE WOULD BE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO SAY SO. BERNIE SANDERS SAID WHAT HE THOUGHT. JESSE?>>Jesse: AMAZINGLY STUPID. THANK YOU TO CNN FOR THIS CONTENT THAT WE WILL MOCK. AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CNN FOR ASKING SOME OF THESE FRONT RUNNER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WHICH THEY ACTUALLY ANSWERED. FOR INSTANCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BAN THE COMBUSTION ENGINE? YES. NATURAL GAS DRILLING? YES. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BAN COAL? YES. GOODBYE PENNSYLVANIA, GOODBYE MICHIGAN, GOODBYE OHIO. BUT IT GOES, GETS BETTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BAN OFFSHORE DRILLING? YES. GOODBYE FLORIDA, GOODBYE ANY CHANCE YOU WILL EVER HAVE. BUT IT DOES GET BETTER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BAN FACTORY FARMING? YES. GOODBYE IOWA, GOODBYE WISCONSIN. THE ANSWERS WERE STUPID AND THE QUESTIONS WERE AMAZING FOR REPUBLICANS, AND EVERYONE SHOULD THANK CNN. THE FACT THAT THEY ACTUALLY GOT ON THERE AND SAID DEPOPULATION CONTROL IS CRAZY. THAT IS WHAT THEY DO IN COMMUNIST CHINA. IT’S A DISCREDITED THEORY. IN FACT, THE SHOOTER IN THE LAST TWO MASS SHOOTINGS, HE HAS ASCRIBED TO THAT PHILOSOPHY. NOW THEY ARE ALSO SAYING WE SHOULD START EATING LESS MEAT. GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN. WHAT IS THIS? GET OFF OF MY RANCH. ALL OF THESE IDEAS ARE JUST GOING TO MAKE EVERYONE’S LIVES MISERABLE. THEY ARE GOING TO COST TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE EARTH’S TEMPERATURE 1 DEGREE.>>Dana: THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT AND IF YOU TAKE ALL THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT, MOST OF THE THINGS WOULD ACTUALLY INCREASE IN EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES, INCLUDING IF YOU WANT TO DO AWAY WITH NUCLEAR. YOU WERE SHAKING THEIR HEADS AT THE BERNIE SANDERS LINE.>>OF COURSE BERNIE IS GOING TO TAKE THIS QUESTION, I WILL SAY IT! COME ON, WE WANT TO HELP YOU KILL YOUR CHILDREN. IT’S CRAZY. SEVEN HOURS OF THIS ON CNN? SEVEN HOURS? IT’S LIKE CNN IS A RESTAURANT THAT THE MAFIA BOUGHT AND THEY ARE BURNING IT DOWN FOR THE INSURANCE MONEY. I DON’T KNOW WHAT THEIR RATINGS WERE LIKE. THE FUTURE SEEMS SO BLEAK. COULD IT SOUND ANY WORSE? WE ALL NEED TO BE VEGETARIANS LIVING LIKE IT’S WORLD WAR II, DRINKING OUT OF STRAWS THAT DON’T WORK. GIVE ME TRUMP EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. I DON’T WANT TO LIVE IN THIS BLEAK — IT’S LIKE “THE HUNGER GAMES.”>>Dana: DO YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE HURRICANE CONNECTION?>>Juan: I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE I FIND THIS SUCH A DISTORTION. I CAN’T BELIEVE THE THINGS JESSE SAYS LIKE THEY ARE ATTRIBUTED THEY DIDN’T SAY THESE THINGS. THEN MICHAEL SAYS, OH, KILL BABIES. NOBODY SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT!>>Jesse: HE SAYS HE WANTS TO BAN THE COMBUSTION ENGINE AND ELIMINATE COAL-FIRED POWER PLANTS.>>Juan: HERE IS THE HEART OF THE RESPONSE COMING FROM THIS TABLE, THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO CONTROL YOU, THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR STRAWS! THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO EAT MEAT! OH, MY GOSH. TO ME, IT’S MIND-BOGGLING. ONE, DEMOCRATS HAVE IDEAS. A BOY, REPUBLICANS HAVE NO IDEAS WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH CLIMATE CONTROL. SO REPUBLICANS SAY, THAT IDEA IS RIDICULOUS! DEMOCRATS SAY, LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS. GUESS WHAT, OVERWHELMINGLY, 80% PLUS OF DEMOCRATS AND 60% OF INDEPENDENTS SAY CLIMATE CHANGE IS A BIG ISSUE. WE WANT TO DEAL WITH IT. IT’S AN EMERGENCY. SO HERE ARE SOME OF THESE IDEAS. NONE OF THESE IDEAS ARE RADICAL, BY THE WAY.>>Jesse: BANNING FACTORY FARMING IS NOT RADICAL?>>Juan: YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED AT HOW MANY FARMERS SAY THAT FACTORY FARMING IS NOT EFFICIENT.>>Jesse: JOE BIDEN SAYS HE WANTS TO GET RID OF EVERY SINGLE –>>Juan: YOU CAN SHOUT AND KEEP TALKING OVER ME — YOU JUST TALK, TALK, TALK. KEEP TALKING BUT GO TALK TO FARMERS, AND THEY SAY THEY PREFER THERE WOULD BE LESS OF THAT FACTOR, BIG CORPORATE FARMING.>>Jedediah: YOU THINK ALL THE THINGS JESSE SAID SOUNDED CRAZY, HE REPEATED ALL THE THINGS THEY SAID. BAN PLASTIC STRAWS –>>Juan: WHAT IS SO RADICAL ABOUT BLANDING PLASTIC STRAWS?>>Jedediah: HE’S TALKING ABOUT AMERICAN TAXPAYER ABORTION NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES BUT ELSEWHERE.>>Juan: IT IS ILLEGAL UNDER THE MEXICO CITY AGREEMENT. WHAT YOU GET HIS DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, I’M GOING BACK HERE TO CLINTON AND OBAMA BOTH SAID NO TO IT. IT’S NOT A NEW IDEA. BUSH PUT IT BACK, BUT IT’S NEVER BEEN ABOUT ABORTION. IT’S ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL.>>YOU DON’T THINK TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, Y PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, U PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, D PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, N PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, T PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, I PEOPLE TO CONVERT TO VEGANISM, K BRINGING UP ABORTION IN A CONVERSATION ABOUT POPULATION CONTROL OR BANNING FRACKING AND PLASTIC STRAWS. NONE OF THIS SOUNDS EXTREME TO YOU AT ALL?>>Juan: HE DIDN’T BRING UP ABORTION, HE BROUGHT UP BIRTH CONTROL.>>Jedediah: YOU ARE THE AUDIENCE FOR THIS. THERE IS AN AUDIENCE FOR THIS.>>Juan: HUGE! YES!>>Jedediah: RIGHT NOW, IT’S SOUNDING SO EXTREME.>>Juan: I’M NOT EXTREME. IT’S NOT EXTREME.>>Jedediah: IT DOESN’T SOUND EXTREME TO A LOT OF THE COUNTRY. THAT’S SCARY.>>Jesse: DO YOU THINK BANNING THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE IS A RADICAL IDEA?>>Juan: YEAH.>>Jesse: THAT IS WHAT JOE BIDEN JUST SAID! HE SAID HE WANTS TO ELIMINATE IT IN HIS FIRST TERM!>>Juan: THIS IS SO OBVIOUS, I DON’T — WHAT HE WANTS TO DO IS HAVE LESS RELIANCE. IN OTHER WORDS, GO TOWARDS — THE IDEA THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE IS SCARY TO YOU BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU HAVE NO IDEAS. I HEARD YOU SAY FLORIDA, OH, FLORIDA’S GONE.

Trump accuses NYT of ‘racism witch hunt’ after leaked meeting


♪ ♪>>Katie: “THE NEW YORK TIMES” LAST OF HER BIAS AFTER A LEAKED TRANSCRIPT REVEALED ITS NEW PLAN TO GO AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE PAPER’S EXECUTIVE EDITOR FORCED TO HOLD A CRISIS TOWN HALL MEETING AFTER LIBERAL BACKLASH FOR CHANGING A HEADLINE ABOUT RECENT SHOOTINGS FROM “TRUMP URGES TRIGGER UNITY “TRUMP URGES TRIGGER UNIT” “TRUMP URGES TRIGGER UNITT “TRUMP URGES TRIGGER UNITO “ASSAILING HATE BUT NOT GUNS.” THE EDITORS THING WE BUILD OUR NEWSROOM TO COVER ONE STORY AND WE DID ACTUALLY WELL BUT AFTER RUSSIAN COLLUSION FELL APART, THE EDITOR SAYS THAT EDITOR’S FOCUSING ON A NEW ISSUE. REGROUP AND TAKE ON A DIFFERENT STORY. THE TRANSCRIPT IS REVIEWING BUT IT SOLIDIFIED WHAT WE ARTIE KNEW.>>Jesse: WAS REVEALING, THEY ARE NOT AS INFLUENTIAL AS THEY THINK THEY ARE AND THEY ADMITTED THEY ARE PARTISAN ACTIVISTS. REAL JOURNALISTS WOULD LOOK, HOW DO THEY RUSH A HOAX COME INTO BEING? THEY ARE SPENDING OUR TIME LOOKING BACK. THEY HAVE TURNED A BLIND EYE TO IT AND THEY ARE NOW LOOKING AT WHAT ELSE CAN TAKE OUT TRUMP. RACE I DON’T BELIEVE WE’LL HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF EFFECT AGAINST THE PRESIDENT AS THEY WERE SHOVING DEBORAH YOU CAN SEE THE RATINGS FOR THE CABLES THAT PUSHED THAT HULKS ARE NOT REBOUNDING AS THEY APPROVE IT TO RACE. APPROVAL FOR DONALD TRUMP AMONG HISPANICS AND BLACK AMERICANS SINCE JANUARY HAS ACTUALLY GONE UP. IT’S ALSO NOT A VERY INSPIRING MESSAGE TO SAY THAT THE COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON RACISM, IT’S A RACIST NATION, AND WE NEED TO DESTROY IT AND INSTITUTE SOCIALISM IN ORDER TO HEAL IT. THAT TYPE OF MESSAGING TO THIS COUNTRY IS RACIST AND THAT TRUMP IS RACIST AT ALL TRUMP VOTERS ARE RACIST ARE GOING TO TURN OFF THE VERY VOTERS THAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO NEED TO RECAPTURE THOSE RUST BELT DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO WIN BACK THE WHITE HOUSE. RACE ISN’T GOING TO WORK. IT’S GOT TO BE HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, AS JUAN SAID, AND JOBS.>>Katie: JUAN, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.>>Juan: WE DO, YOUR HONOR. I WANT TO SEE MY TIME TO MR. WATTERS. RUSSIA HOAX. DID YOU MISS THE ENTIRE MUELLER REPORT THAT SAID RUSSIA INTERFERED IN THE 2016 — THERE WAS NO FINDING OF ANY COLLUSION, NO INVESTIGATION. IT WAS A INVESTIGATION TO CONSPIRACY.>>Katie: AS A JOURNALIST, DO YOU THINK THIS TYPE OF CONVERSATION –>>Juan: I SAID THAT I WOULD SEE THE POINT TO JESSE BECAUSE I THINK HE IS INDICTING HIMSELF.>>Katie: AS A JOURNALIST FOR MANY YEARS, DO YOU THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ACTIVISM ARE APPROPRIATE?>>Juan: I THINK YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. WE HAD A POLL AT FOX THAT SAID TWO-THIRDS OF AMERICANS THINK HE’S TEARING THE COUNTRY APART. THAT INCLUDES MORE THAN 60% OF WHITE AMERICANS. SOMETHING IS GOING ON IN TERMS OF THE SOCIAL FABRIC, AND IF YOU’RE A JOURNALIST, HOW COULD YOU NOT PAY ATTENTION TO IT. TO MY MIND, YOU KNOW IT’S LIKE THIS IS NOT A NEW TOPIC FOR THE TIMES. “THE TIMES” HAVE BEEN COVERING IT. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY NEED TO DO. I THINK WHAT YOU HEAR IS WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO COVERING MUELLER AND THE CONSPIRACY ARGUMENT, JESSE, AND I THINK THEY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB. THEY WERE WAY AHEAD OF OTHER PEOPLE SAYING — I THINK THEY WERE AHEAD OF SAYING, AHEAD OF ALL THOSE PEOPLE THE OTHER CHANNELS FEEDING THIS CONSPIRACY. THEY WERE NOT IN THAT CAMP.>>Jesse: THE OTHER CHANNELS FOLLOW EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THE TIMES.>>Greg: THE CONSPIRACY IS THAT THEY ARE CREATING A FRAMEWORK TO SHAPE THE NEWS TO LAY OUT A BLUEPRINT SO THAT YOU CAN SLOT IN THE STORIES ABOUT RACE. THE POLLS SAY THEY THINK TRUMP IS TEARING THE COUNTRY APART, IT’S IRRELEVANT. IT’S THE MEDIA THAT’S CREATING THE NARRATIVE THAT PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT. THE FACT IS THE CURTAIN IS PULLED BACK. WE SEE THIS AND WE ARE SURPRISED. THE MEDIA SMIRKS BECAUSE IT’S BEEN THIS WAY ALL ALONG. RACISM IS A QUANTITY WHERE IN THE DO — THE MEDIA, THE DEMAND EXCEEDS THE SUPPLY. THE SLEEVE ARTICLE, I DIDN’T READ IT BUT I ASSUME IT WAS WELL-RESEARCHED, PROBABLY WELL DONE BUT I DIDN’T READ IT. MY ASSUMPTIONS ARE THIS IS ALL PART OF A GREATER NARRATIVE TO PAINT DONALD TRUMP AS RACIST. I’M GOING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THEY DO HAS SOMEHOW ARTIFICIALLY CONSTRUCTED TO DEMONIZE SOMEBODY, AND IT’S NOT GOING TO STOP. IT’S GOING TO GET WORSE WE HAVE TO ADMIT THIS COUNTRY OVERTIME GETS LESS RACIST. DO YOU THINK WE ARE LESS RACIST NOW THAN THEY ’60s WERE ’50s OR 1860s? IT’S GETTING BETTER BUT THEY DON’T LIKE THAT STORY. THINGS ARE GOING SO WELL THAT THEY NEED TO DEMONIZE EVERYBODY. THIS IS BIGGER THAN WATERGATE.>>Juan: I THINK THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER IN TERMS OF RACE. IF I COMPARE WHERE MY FATHER WAS TO WHERE I AM, I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY QUESTION. BUT I WILL SAY, LOOK.>>Greg: AND YOUR POINT THERE.>>Juan: ANYONE WHO’S COVERED TRUMP KNOWS HE’S HAD TROUBLE WITH THE RACE ISSUE ALL ALONG. FEDERAL SUITS ABOUT HOUSING DISCRIMINATION, THE BIRTHER MOVEMENT. I COULD GO ON. I WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SOMEHOW IT SUDDENLY DISCOVERING DISCOVERING — IT’S BEEN AN ISSUE WITH TRUMP.>>Greg: IF YOU TAKE EACH OF THOSE SEPARATELY, THEY ADD UP TO VERY LITTLE.>>Dana: ON THE RUSSIA THING, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE GOOD NEWS, IT WAS A LOT OF TIME, ALWAYS HINTING THAT TRUMP WAS BEHIND IT. THE PODCAST, THE THINGS THEY DI DID. I THINK THERE IS A GENERATIONAL CHANGE IN THE NEWSROOM. THERE IS A GENERATIONAL CHANGE WERE NOW I THINK IT’S PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY UNIVERSITIES TRAIN JOURNALISTS NOW THAT THEY ARE ACTIVISTS AND INSTEAD OF REPORTING THE NEWS. NEWS ORGANIZATIONS USE TO BE WORRIED THEY MIGHT MAKE THEIR ADVERTISERS MAD. HE WORKED IN MAGAZINES, RIGHT? THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE TO SEE THAT ARTICLE NEXT TO THE PICTURE OF THEIR GREAT PRODUCT FOR THAT WAS THEIR WORRY. NOW THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR OWN REPORTERS. JUST REPORT THE NEWS. BASHING THE MEDIA IS A BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. WHERE IS BERNIE SANDERS, FIGURING OUT A WAY TO GET HIS BASE ENERGIZED, BASH THE MEDIA.>>Greg: “NEW YORK TIMES” IS NO DIFFERENT THAN MEDIA MATTERS. THEY ARE BOTH PUSHING AN AGENDA, POLITICAL, IDEOLOGICAL AGENDA.