Trump Most Unpopular In 44 Years to Run for Re-Election

let’s talk now about that reelection. This is an interesting story that I want to
be careful about because when I talk about this, I don’t want to inadvertently make anybody
think that maybe they don’t need to go out and vote in November. Everybody needs to go out and vote in November. But it’s an interesting story. Nonetheless. Donald Trump is the most unpopular president
as of January one of their reelection year to seek reelection dating back all the way,
44 years to Gerald Ford seeking reelection in 1976 and Donald Trump’s still might win
despite that. Um, according to five 38 on January 1st just
a few days ago, Donald Trump’s approval rating was 42.6%. This might now be lower because of the Iran
stuff or it might be higher. We don’t really know, but that was the number
as of January 1st only Gerald Ford had a lower approval rating on January one of an election
year of reelection year who was pulling 39.3% on January 1st of 1976. Now, my memory when I was starting to research
this yesterday was that George W. Bush was very unpopular when running for reelection,
and indeed he was at 48.9% approval, but that was higher than Barack Obama at 45.7% Barack
Obama winning reelection very easily in 2012 so there’s a few important messages here. The most important one is if George W. Bush
was reelected with a 48.9% approval on January one of his reelection year, if Barack Obama
was reelected with 45.7% approval on January one of his reelection year, Trump can be reelected
at 42.6% especially in this hyper-partisan environment where Trump is likely to lose
the popular vote because of big deficits and large blue States like California and New
York. But to eke out winds in those few key States
that handed him the electoral college victory in 2016 so when you see this, it’s interesting. We don’t know how Trump’s approval will, will
move between now and election day. It means nothing about whether we need to
get out and vote. The answer is yes, we do. The other thing to remember is that November
approval need not be anything like January 1st approval. And in fact, if you look at the last 11 presidents
who ran for reelection of the 11 six saw their approval go down between January 1st and the
election five saw their approval go up between January 1st and the election. So for Trump, this means to get out of the
danger zone. He needs to try to get his approval closer
to 50%. For us, this means assume nothing, vote work. Every state, consider no state’s safe. I mean, we know California, Massachusetts
in New York, we know that they’re going blue, but work, the election work, every state. Trump was one of the most disliked and unpopular
candidates that ran, right? I mean, remember before he was elected, he
was extremely unpopular within the Republican, a, um, a primary and he still won. We are fighting some of the most malignantly
ignorant people in the country to try to remove this guy. Incumbency is a powerful thing. We need to fight it on all fronts. Public activism, get out the vote. We’ve gotta be fighting voter suppression
that is happening in many States and we are trying to fight it in many of those States,
fight gerrymandering, fight the foreign influence, which is of course going to be an issue once
again. And to put sort of like a final point on this,
despite Gerald Ford’s approval rating of only 39% back in 1976 he lost the popular vote
by only a million and a half votes. That’s about half of the margin that Trump
lost by in 2016. Put another way as unpopular as Gerald Ford
was in 1976, Trump lost the popular vote by twice as much in 2016 and still won the electoral
college. So the takeaway is don’t do anything that
would be influenced by thinking that it’s in the bag. I still believe that it is more than plausible
that Donald Trump gets himself reelected. Sometimes people, you know, when, whenever
I let, let’s actually address that because we are going to have a long, uh, election
cycle here of this. I, I’ve said many times, I am against Donald
Trump. I think there’s a great chance that Donald
Trump is defeated, but I think it’s perfectly plausible. And in some cases, if certain things go a
certain way, even likely that Donald Trump gets himself reelected. And when I say that, I’ll get emails from
people in the audience who say, David, you’re being really demoralizing by saying you think
Donald Trump could get reelected. Uh, I’m being realistic with you. And if anything, when you hear me say that
it shouldn’t demoralize you, it should make you commit to voting and to getting out the
vote. The idea that stating that the president could
realistically get himself reelected is the moralizing is the absolute wrong interpretation. The interpretation should be half of the country
doesn’t vote. Let’s go out and get people voting so that
we can win this thing. Let’s go to a break afterwards. Uh, CNBC put up the wrong pictures of Andrew
Yang and tool C Gabbert and a recent segment I want to talk with you about whether it is
ignorance or malice, and we will of course raise Hanlon’s razor. Always a great quote when we talk about ignorance
versus malice, your voicemails and many other things coming up. The David Pakman

What’s the Worst Case Trump Scenario in Iran?

Let’s go to the phones for the first time
in 2020 at six one, seven, eight three zero 47 50. See what’s on people’s minds. Let’s go first to our caller from the 61 five
area code color from six one five. Uh, what’s your name? Where are you calling from? What’s on your mind today? Hi David. My name is Austin. I’m a big payday show. I was just wondering with this whole, um,
no, it wasn’t us doing what he did last night. What’s the worst case scenario? Like are we expecting anything to come from
this stock’s going to go up, I don’t know. Austin, your, your connection is, uh, the
worst of 2020 so far. I mean, of course this is only the first phone
call we’ve taken, but listen, I, I gathered that you’re asking about what’s the worst
case scenario based on Trump’s unauthorized and possibly illegal assassination of the
Uranian leader. Is that right? Yeah, that’s, that’s right. I’m sorry about the connection. That’s okay. Listen, the worst case scenario is we get
into the most disastrous war of my lifetime, which as I said earlier in the show that says
a lot, given that we’ve had Iraq and we’ve had Afghanistan, and it may all be because
Donald Trump thinks it may help him get elected in 2020. And you know, I don’t know if you’ve seen
some of the, that Donald Trump sent years ago about Barack Obama and Iran saying Obama
is going to bomb Iran to try to get reelected. And you know, it, it’s unbelievable that this
is where we are. But the worst case scenario is really bad. Yeah, that’s what I thought. All for political gain. It’s pretty disgusting if you think about
it. Oh, it’s, it’s incredible. And you know, the, the saddest part about
it is it often works, you know, I mean, when you look at George w Bush’s reelection in
2004 it came down to, I think it was about 140,000 votes in Ohio, if I recall correctly. And a lot of his campaign was based on, you
don’t want to change horses midstream. We’re in the middle of this Iraq thing, and
when you’re talking about, you know, Trump likely losing the popular vote again in 2020
but being able to eke out a win electorally, something like a contingent of people who,
who think we’re in the middle of this thing, let’s let him finish it out. It could actually win the election for him. That’s the sickest part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks for answering my question. All right. I appreciate it. Hope to hear from you again. Looks like your connection got much better
there towards the end of the call, which we love.

2020 Campaign is Going to Be UGLY

let’s talk
about the 2020 election and what my approach is going to be because we’re quickly getting
into the 2020 election in earnest and this is going to be, I believe, an uglier election
than we have maybe ever seen in the modern political era. I’ll tell you how and why that’s going to
manifest the, let’s set it up. It’s January 2nd. The first votes in the democratic primary
are coming up in just a month. We have debate number seven for the democratic
candidates in a couple of weeks. Donald Trump is increasingly starting to campaign
for reelection in a serious manner. As serious as he does it. This is going to be an ugly election in ways
that may differ from past ugliness. So think back to the Clinton days, there was
an attempt, um, pretty late in the 20, in the 1992 election to attack bill Clinton by
publicizing a supposedly black loved child that bill Clinton had. If you watch the documentary, the war room,
which is an excellent documentary, you see bill Clinton’s advisers at the time, James
Carville, strategists, advisors, advisors, James Carville and George Stephanopoulos deal
with this possible smear about bill Clinton with a black loved child in real time. And that was very ugly in its own way. Um, in the 20 2008 campaign, the extreme racism
that we saw against Barack Obama. So there has been ugliness. 2016 was very ugly in its own way, but if
you thought that the Hillary has Parkinson’s conspiracy theories were ugly. If you thought Trump making fun of how candidates
look was ugly. If you thought Trump attacking Megan Kelly
about a bloody, you know what was ugly? Just wait until the 2020 election ramps up. There’s a really good piece by a conservative
Jonah Goldberg in the Los Angeles times about this, and even if you don’t agree with Jonah
Goldberg’s politics or his analysis of candidates, which I don’t, he astutely points out that
Donald Trump in 2016 had nothing to lose. He didn’t think he was going to be the nominee. He was already planning on what to do once
he lost the nomination, how to capitalize on maybe coming in a respectable second or
third place. Donald Trump is now the incumbent, and even
if he didn’t want this thing to begin with, he does not want to lose, and he is an impeached
president, which is driving him absolutely up a wall. We’ll talk about that a little bit later. Being president does not at all seem to have
matured. Donald Trump, if anything, he’s more childish
and unhinged than ever. And then you add to this a bunch of different
things add to this that um, he has this fragile cognitive state in which he finds himself
or an emotional imbalance or whatever it is. Something there adds on to the 2016 Trump
that we saw add to this, that in 2016, Donald Trump did not have the right wing media, uh,
supporting him all along. Remember that they eventually came to support
Donald Trump, but early in the 2016, uh, D a Republican primary really even in 2015,
Fox news was not with Donald Trump. A lot of that right wing apparatus that now
basically is with Trump, at least for now, they were not with them in 2016. So he has the benefit of that, which means
he will be able to get away with even more knowing that that right wing media apparatus
is going to defend them. Now that may change. I said it’s possible Fox would abandoned Trump
in 2020. Hypothetically. It doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen
unless that changes. We expect that the support is going to continue. This will further enable Donald Trump. Add to that Donald Trump’s friendship with
tabloid propagandists, David pepper pecker rather, which gives Trump more resources and
wherewithal to publish and push really horrible attacks on whoever is the eventual democratic
nominee. Over my vacation last week, I had the opportunity
to read almost all of Ronan Farrow’s book catch and kill, and that is another recipe
for a campaign that will reach levels of ugly that we have not seen before in his piece. Jonah Goldberg is already citing two early
examples of the type of campaign that this will be saying. Quote, first on Friday night, the president
retweeted and then deleted a post naming the whistleblower in the Ukraine affair. If candidate Trump had done something like
that, criticism from the right would have been deafening. Then on Sunday night at an event in Milford,
New Hampshire, the famously tactile Biden was greeted by a handful of protesters. Don’t touch kids. You pervert. One man who claims not to be a Trump supporter. Shouted a woman started a bar, a brief chat
of quid pro Joe. If you live in a swing state, it is going
to be even extra kooky, crazy ugly in 2020 if you live in a red state, a lot of that
ugliness is probably already infected like a virus. Many of your friends and neighbors and you’re
already in the thick of it and probably have been for the last year or a year and a half. One thing I’m looking at doing for myself,
for my own sanity, and I know that some people have noticed this, I’ve gotten emails from
people saying, David, I’m seeing you sort of pull back on social media. I’m looking at how much more can I pull back
on social media without losing touch with the audience, without losing touch with, you
know, the usefulness of those tools to an end up independent media show like this one
because it’s just too toxic. And I know lots of you have been feeling this
for awhile. Uh, I talked about this with Joe Rogan last
June when I was on his program. Let me know what you think. Let me know what you were planning on doing
when it comes to, it’s not just the ugliness that we’re expecting, but it’s also the even
bigger effect of these algorithmic echo chambers that are created and perpetuated on social
media. I want to hear from you. Leave a reply. If you’re watching on YouTube, send me a tweet
at deep Pacman. Otherwise, and make sure to follow both at
D Pacman and David Pakman show on Twitter. I want to hear from you. We’ll probably follow up tomorrow or early
next week about that.

Is Pelosi Withholding Impeachment a Genius Move?

Let’s go to our caller from the three zero
five area code color from three zero five. What’s on your mind today? Hey, David. Um, this is Esteban, uh, currently,
uh, in Atlanta, Georgia, but I reside in Orlando. All right. Um, so as you know, uh, Pelosi
has been withholding the articles of impeachment for a couple of weeks now. I think this is
really genius. I need to meet, you know, she might say that she’s doing this because she
wants, you know, uh, to guarantee your free trial. But I think it’s really clear that
she’s just trying to make us a word, a word of attrition. Um, you know, more and more
devastating information comes out with Trump. More and more scandals become public and you
know, he’s still serving as an impeached president. So, you know, Shirley just can’t look, uh,
right. You know, uh, emails just came out highlighting the fact that Trump was the one
who made the order to withhold the aid. And you know, Trump is, might argue, uh, that,
you know, the Democrats are scared. But I think that, you know, it’s really clear
that she’s doing this maybe to, I guess sort of muddy Trump’s name. Um, you know, a five
through eight poll just came out and support for a removal of office for Trump has reached
57%, which is the highest it’s ever been. So my question is, you know, what’s your take
on this? Uh, but more specifically, how long do you think the Democrats should continue
the strategy? And you think that all this, uh, bad information coming out on shrunk,
um, is going to weaken, uh, chances of winning. Okay, good. So a lot of good questions there.
I do think that in the immediate, the withholding of the articles of impeachment from the Senate
is a smart move. I said it before, a Donald Trump has an impeached president is becoming
increasingly erratic. You know, the problem is that he may become so erratic that he does
things that lead to the deaths of tons of people like starting a war with Iran because
he thinks it’ll help him get reelected. So that is definitely a concern. But so far the
articles of impeachment being withheld is a throat know, making Trump even more erratic.
You’re absolutely correct that we are learning more and more things. In fact, those emails
showing that Donald Trump was the one ordering the Ukrainian aid be withheld. Those are emails
that were denied to the house during the impeachment, uh, inquiry and investigation, which Mitch
McConnell also wanted to exclude from the Senate trial. And how do you justify excluding those from
the Senate trial at this point, given that they have gone public? So I agree with all
of that stuff. The concern I have is if you hold impeachment until after the November
of 2020 election, if you withhold the articles from the Senate until after the 2020 election,
I think that Trump may be, gets himself reelected, uh, because it doesn’t do any, the, the trial
doesn’t do any damage to Trump. At the same time, there’s a risk that if you start the
impeachment trial in July, in August, the Republican national convention is in August,
that Trump and Republicans are successfully able to paint Democrats as merely political
and calculating. And it could actually inspire people to get out there and vote for Trump
because he convinces them that he’s the victim and he’s a martyr. So I think in general,
this has been a good decision by Nancy Pelosi. I’m not sure of the end game, and I’m not
sure at what point it might backfire. Right. Uh, I remember, uh, watching, I don’t
remember what news kind was on, but, uh, there’s this guy named Island venturing. Apparently
he’s like a, he’s correctly predicted like every election since 1980. Oh, Alan Lichtman. Yeah, we’ve interviewed
him on the show. Yeah. Oh, really? Interesting. So he said
that there’s, um, there’s like 13 factors that, uh, sort of make up or decide, uh, the
chances of a president being elected or reelected. And, um, I think some, like they consisted
of like, you know, scandals, but one of the big ones was like in teaching, um, he said
that, uh, at least he’s, he claims that the only way Trump would lose the election is,
uh, if you know, the Democrats move forward with impeachment and it doesn’t matter, you
know, if he’s actually successfully removed from office, all that matters is, um, that,
you know, there’s, there’s obviously going to be a trial. Um, and I think that the more,
you know, the more Nancy withholds of these articles, I think the harder it is to deny
Trump, you know, an impeachment trial. I in the Senate. Um, which I think ultimately would
just, you know, um, increase his chances of losing the real life. You may be right. I’m not sure. And I know
Alan Lichtman is well respected and I, I T to me it’s, it’s less clear, but uh, we’re,
we’re, we’ve only got 10 months left, so we’re going to know pretty soon. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much for the call.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much. That is all the time I have today. Apologies to everybody.
I was not [inaudible] able to get to, but we have, we have all year
to take phone calls, so we’ll take a quick break and be back with more afterwards.

What Was Trump’s Worst Moment of 2019?

All right, let’s go back to the phones at
six one seven, eight three zero 47 50. Going to our caller from the three three one, one area code color from three, three one. What’s your name? Where are you calling from? Her name’s Curtis calling from Aurora. Hey Curtis, what’s up? And I’m much first a happy new year to you
and the guys over there doing good stuff, man. Patriot mail. Thanks a lot baby. Appreciate that. Um, my specific question was, so I’m in light
of the, uh, psychiatric nurse, left the voicemail for ya. And then some of the other great guests that
you’ve had on in regards to Trump, the narcissism neurologically possible psychological issues. My question is, um, you had a, you had a tweet
that asked a, if I’m not mistaken, what his worst moment was and, um, 2019, uh, I thought
dangle the single comments were the lowest and most deplorable comments ever. I was wondering what you thought his worst
was. I couldn’t tell. I mean, there’s just, there’s so many. It’s w I’m actually the wrong person even
to say what Donald Trump’s worst moment was in 2019 because I, I’ve become so desensitized
to the fact that we have this outrageous person in the oval office. So I, I actually am not well positioned to
tell you what the worst moment was. All right, understood. Understood. Yeah, it’s, well, I think he’s had a lot,
I think he’ll continue to have more just based on the, uh, individuals he has, but, um, those
specific people who speak to that, uh, that she had won, they always make for a great
and very enlightening shows. So that’s a good thing. So I appreciate that. Yeah. Listen, I mean, I, every time we talk about
the Trump cognitive decline or mental health stuff, there’s always a portion of the audience
that says, you know, it’s irresponsible to be talking about a person who you’ve not personally
met or who hasn’t been examined. It’s like, this is the problem that we can’t
actually figure out what’s going on because he won’t be examined and the behavior is so
erratic and examination would be appropriate. Uh, so what else can we do? We’re left in a very tough position. Very true. Very true. Well, I hope we have a good rest of this year,
sir, and thanks for everything you’re doing. All right, my friend. Thank you very much. Great to hear from you.

Light Bulb: Establishment Realizes Bernie Could Win

There was a very interesting shift that, uh,
happened right at the end of 2019, which I believe is now going to dictate a lot of the
narrative around the 2020 primary, uh, for the first quarter of 2020, certainly into
and through the first few primaries. And the shift is that both democratic party
insiders and even some in corporate media seem to have had like a light bulb go off
where they realized, wait a second, Bernie Sanders might actually win the democratic
nomination. Now this is not an analysis of whether Bernie
could be Trump. We’ve done that analysis. That’s a separate story. This is not an analysis of Bernie’s policy. This is not an analysis of whether Bernie
Sanders is a communist. He’s not a, we’ve done those analyses. This is about something else. We’ve talked about the Bernie blackout that
took place during much of 2019 in terms of covering Bernie Sanders campaign in a serious
manner by corporate media. And we’ve also talked about the attitude of
some in the DNC that Bernie simply can’t win. Others on the other hand, believed that Bernie
could win and were scared. So they were meeting about how to try to stop
Bernie. Famously, Pete Buddha judge was even included
in some of those early stop Bernie, uh, sort of meetings, um, that, uh, were, were taking
place about how can we make sure that we deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. But in the last few weeks of 2019 things changed. We’ll talk about the fundraising piece in
a little bit. Um, but a few other things went on. Number one. Part of it was Elizabeth Warren’s collapse
in the polls and she had nearly tied to Joe Biden for first place in the democratic primary
a few months ago. She has been on the decline since then. She’s dropped to third place. She’s lost almost half of her support from
her peak a few months ago, much more solidly behind Bernie, more than four points behind
as of this morning. Now, another part of it is not just Elizabeth
Warren’s decline. What we’ve seen if you look at polling, is
that many candidates were up and down and sometimes eventually out. Uh, while Bernie Sanders on the other hand
has basically been steady for months and months other than some very small shifts. So think back, Biden had that huge spike when
he formally announced up to 40%. Then he dropped, he leveled out every debate. He seems to lose some support because his
performances have been by and large, terrible. And then gained some of it back very erratic. Okay. Uh, Elizabeth Warren climbed, as I mentioned,
all the way up to almost hi Joe Biden. We really within the margin of error to tie
Joe Biden and then just started sinking, losing almost half of her support. Camilla Harris, she climbed all the way up
to 15 after one debate in which she had one of these kill shots against a, excuse me punching
my microphone against Joe Biden, but then she Relic relatively quickly fell. She ended her campaign a couple of weeks ago
as we told you who Leon Castro just announced that he’s ending his campaign. P booted judge had an upswing, didn’t really
seem believable, uh, to many people and he has settled back down basically to where he
was. And this entire time Bernie Sanders has been
holding steady, even his heart attack, only a relatively small bump. Now there’s two ways to interpret that and
I have no interest in, uh, uh, pulling the wool over your eyes. One way to interpret that is that Bernie Sanders
has a very solid base of support from which to build. And now the question is how does he build
it and we’ll talk about that. The other way to think about this is that
Bernie has basically maxed out that Bernie has hit his ceiling and barring some very
unlikely circumstances. It’s great for Bernie that he’s held roughly
the same level of support for awhile, but he’s incapable of growing that support. Those are two different opinions about this
and we’ll talk about that now. Just before the new year, you saw democratic
officials, party operatives, pundits, all starting to take Bernie Sanders more seriously. David Brock is a big democratic insider. He’s, he was a Hillary Clinton ally in 2016
he ran a pro Hillary pack in 2016 I was on a panel with him at Politiken back in 2018
he said, quote, it may have been inevitable that eventually you would have two candidates
representing each side of the ideological divide in the party. A lot of smart people I’ve talked to lately
think there’s a very good chance these two ended up being Biden and Sanders Sanders. Now, there is no denying that Bernie Sanders
is solidly not in first place. The more I look into things, the more I believe
the polls about Joe Biden and that Joe Biden is solidly in first place. I know that there are a lot of people in my
audience who don’t want to acknowledge that. Uh, what I have been increasingly realizing
and a call we got last week or earlier this week actually solidified that some of us are
so enmeshed in online politics where we say, where are these Biden supporters? I’m not coming across any of these Biden’s
supporters. It feels like we rarely come across them. Remember that call I got explaining for a
viewer explain that at Christmas, uh, all of their relatives are completely in for Biden. They are not voters that are part of the online
world that we exist in. And I believe this applies to millions of
Americans. So I do believe Joe Biden is in first place. I am increasingly thinking about how could
the Bernie Warren support be consolidated because I do believe that if it could, Joe
Biden would no longer be the front runner, but we’ll be talking more about that as far
as today’s conversation. Bernie Sanders solidly in second place being
taken more and more seriously by the establishment and by corporate media. The question now is what can push Bernie Sanders
over the top? If anything? It seems as though Elizabeth Warren going
by the polls does not have what it takes to go the distance, her support or eroding by
almost 50% over the last few months. The debates aren’t going to help Bernie. I mean it just, we’ve had a bunch now it’s
not moving Bernie support. I know that I still have people in my audience
who say, David, at the next debate, if Bernie does X, if Bernie does Y, he will take support
from Biden, Warren, whoever. It’s not going to happen in that way unless
someone seriously blunders during an upcoming debate, someone who has significant support
being Biden, Warren, maybe Buddha, judge, uh, but the further in you get, the less debates
move the needle. Unless someone really blunders, there is a
bigger chance that Bernie blunders and loses support. Then there is that in the debates. Bernie overtakes Joe Biden. That’s not about Bernie. Okay. Understand that this is just the way the debate
debates work. The further end you get, the more candidates
are known, the more their positions are known. The the smaller, the possibility of making
large gains from the debates becomes so it becomes a mathematical question. It’s also a political question. How can support move to Bernie if that’s where
you want to see the support move? What can you do? I don’t know the answer. Warren falling doesn’t seem to help. She’s lost almost half her support in the
last few months and Bernie’s basically even let me know your thoughts. What could change the balance towards Bernie
from where we are today? A big piece of evaluating how a candidate
is doing is fundraising and our current system, and I want to talk about that next

Does No One Care That Trump is Mentally Ill?

Welcome to the show. It is a new year and I want to talk just a
little bit about my plan for 2020 not specifically about election coverage. We’ll talk about that later, but, but a little
more generally about what’s going on in American political society. One of the goals that I have for 2020 for
the show is to do everything I can to reverse the Hypernormalization of radical unhinged
behavior and actions. And it’s, it’s been really tough. I mean we’ve talked about this before and
sometimes people will call in about it. We’ve experienced all of us a sort of desensitization
and normalization under Donald Trump where every norm, countless ethics rules, the way
we talk about politics, the way we do diplomacy, the way we interact with other world leaders
and countries, it’s all gone out the window. And between the scandal, fatigue and being
desensitized, we all to a degree start to see crazy stuff as less crazy than we would
have in years past or even six months ago. So today I want to talk about just a real
issue and I want to do it carefully. And that issue is how do more people not care
that the president of the United States is mentally unwell. Or we can use the term mentally ill and I
want to be careful. I don’t want to stigmatize mental illness
because it doesn’t deserve to be stigmatized. I don’t want to laugh at mental illness because
it’s not a laughing matter. Nor do I want to conflate things that shouldn’t
be conflated. So for example, being ignorant about politics
and economics as our president is, is not mental illness. It’s not mental instability. It’s two different things. Being a cheater in relationships and golf
and business is not mental illness. Being an immoral person is not mental illness. Lacking empathy is not mental illness, but
these things can be connected to mental illness. And the fact that too many people seem uninterested
in recognizing that Donald Trump is mentally unwell is a very bad sign for society. There’s a recent piece in salon that I encourage
you to read, uh, by Chauncey de Vega, where Chauncey says, six societies normalize the
abberant and abhorrent behavior of their leaders and other elites. That behavior in turn becomes a pathology
of sorts, which infects the general public. This has infected Trumpists. Many of them, not all, some of them have ulterior
motives. We’re hearing regularly from the mental health
community more and more about this man who is in charge of the country. We’ve heard from psychiatry professor, dr
John Gartner on the program multiple times, who told us the various conditions that Donald
Trump may have. These are not jokes. This is not making fun. This is not being hyperbolic. This is a red alert. We have a mentally ill president, psychiatry
professor, dr bandy, Lee, uh, from Yale said recently that Nancy Pelosi could have Donald
Trump and voluntarily evaluated because he may be a threat to public safety. Now, whether she actually can do it or not,
and whether Trump would would submit to that, it’s unlikely. But this is an argument that another mental
health professional is making. And immediately bandy Lee was excoriated by
the Trumpist. Right? How dare we inquire about the mental health
of the president. We then have psychiatrist, Justin Frank who
says Trump is terrified, angry, and extremely dangerous. And that conflict quote gives him life. There have been other leading mental health
professionals who have described Donald Trump as psychotic. Now psychotic. We’ve got to be careful with this stuff. Psychotic is often used colloquially in society
to mean a wacky or eccentric or quirky person. Mental health professionals are using the
term medically. Psychosis is a severe mental disorder in which
thought and emotions are so impaired. That contact is lost with external reality. That is in line with much of what the people
around Donald Trump had been reporting is going on. Chauncey de Vega goes on to write in his salon
piece that we are seeing now, something that relates to what philosopher Henry [inaudible]
described as a dis imagination machine. This is a really important concept. The dissemination machine is the apparatus
that includes images, institutions, discourse, media, political movements, parties. It prevents people from properly bearing witness
to phenomena and to remembering those phenomena in a way that applies critical thinking and
a critique. It prevents people from being critically informed. Even the ways in which we are talking about
Donald Trump’s behavior sort of is doing this. I’ll give you an example. When we say Trump’s behavior is unreal, there’s
an implied meaning, which is we mean that it’s outrageous behavior. We mean that it’s unacceptable behavior that
it has to be stopped. But when we use the word unreal, it also implies
it’s not real. It’s not really happening the way that it
appears to be. And Donald Trump has pushed this. Remember Donald Trump said, what you are seeing
and reading is not actually happening. It’s not actually real. So Chauncey de Vega’s conclusion is that when
we talk about is fascism coming, is totality, totalitarianism, whatever. We won’t know it because it will become the
new normal. Very slowly. Just like having a mentally ill president
increasingly has become the norm. Many Republicans don’t care because they’ve
got, they’ve got their judges in, they’re getting their nominations installed, they’re
getting stuff done while the focus is on Donald Trump. They just pretend that Donald Trump is okay,
but for too many people, they have actually fallen into this normalization. 2020 is going to be a real test for the country. I’m going to avoid, uh, I’m going to try to
do my part better said to avoid the continued normalization of what is mentally ill behavior. Without conflating that with just an ignorant
president with an immoral president, with an unethical president, these are different
issues. We are not going to stigmatize mental illness,
but at a certain point when this number of mental health professionals are sounding the
alarm and half the country seems not to care or simply to refuse to see reality, it is
starting to infect the country exactly the way that Chauncey de Vega writes in salon. We’re going to link to that piece in the description
for the YouTube clip for this story. And I want to hear from you about this. Uh, let’s talk a little bit now about moving on from in general, my
goal in in 2020, uh,

Trump Out-Raises Bernie Despite Record Fundraising

Okay. Let’s follow up to yesterday’s story
about democratic fundraising for 2020. Yesterday. I told you Bernie Sanders had explosive fourth
quarter fundraising in 2019 Bernie raising 34 and a half million dollars. This was the largest single corridor for any
democratic candidate in the entire 2020 election cycle. Elizabeth Warren’s fundraising was
down Bernie way up. These are very serious fundraising numbers and these numbers in part
are making the establishment realize along with the polling that we’re seeing over the
last few weeks. As I told you yesterday, Bernie can win the democratic nomination, whether
he will is a different question, but he is a serious contender for the democratic nomination.
Fine. I did mention yesterday that Donald Trump’s fundraising still greatly exceeded
that of Bernie Sanders. So let’s talk about those numbers. Despite Bernie’s record, 34
and a half million dollars raised last quarter, Donald Trump raised even more. Donald Trump
raised $46 million in the fourth quarter of 2019 that’s about a third more than Bernie.
That’s a major advantage for Trump in the immediate. Now this doesn’t include RNC money,
Republican national committee money that will no doubt pour in for Donald Trump. Trump now has incredible hundred and $2 million
on hand. Trump has been raising a lot of money. He’s not yet been spending that much since
Democrats are spending money. They raise against each other because they’re in a primary right
now. Donald Trump, at least for now, has no primary. So the question now becomes, what
does Donald Trump’s serious fundraising tell us? And what I mean by that is if Donald Trump
is mostly raising money from people who voted for him in 2016 anyway, the fundraising may
or may not tell us very much about how people are going to vote in November of 2020 if Bernie
Sanders is building a coalition that includes people who never voted in 2016 it includes
people who were too young to vote in 2016 but now will be voting in 2020 if it includes
people who voted for somebody else in 2016 the change in Bernie’s fundraising from 2016
to 2020 might signal significant enthusiasm from some of the same people who did not support
Bernie in 2016 that would be a good sign for someone like Bernie Sanders. There’s another question about this though,
which is that Donald Trump raised way more than any individual democratic candidate in
the fourth quarter of 2019 but Donald Trump raised way less than all of the democratic
candidates together because Bernie Sanders raised 34 million and Elizabeth Warren probably
raised close to 20 and Andrew Yang raised a bunch. And Pete Buddha, judge, right? If
you add it all together, all of the Democrats together raised significantly more than Donald
Trump. It’s not crazy to imagine that as the democratic primary candidates get whittled
down and eventually we have a nominee that all of this money will consolidate around
the democratic nominee, and it very well could exceed the amount of money that Donald Trump
raises. This is all speculative and as, as a reminder, I know that for a lot of you,
I don’t have to do this. We’re talking about this because this is the way the system works. It’s a sick, corrosive, broken system. So
campaign finance needs to be fixed. Money in politics needs to be fixed. I’m disgusted
by the fact that you have to raise money in order to have a successful campaign given
that you do. We’re talking about it because we’ve got an election in 10 months, and right
now the way to win it is you’ve got to raise the money, but it’s a disgusting system that
we have. Just putting that on record once again. Um, let’s look at the other side of
this. It is possible that Donald Trump’s big fundraising numbers in the last quarter of
2019 do mean that Donald Trump is going to do very well in 2020. You know, uh, when we
look at the national polling and it says hypothetically, if it was Biden versus Trump, who would you
vote for? And Biden’s winning by nine. Uh, if it was Biden, if it was a Trump versus
Bernie, who would you vote for? And Bernie’s winning by eight and Warren’s
winning by seven. When we look at that, we might incorrectly think, we’ve got this, we’ve
got this in the bag. Especially now with war, with Iran on the table. It will be an even
bigger challenge. Since presidents often benefit from military conflict as a way to justify
their own reelection. Donald Trump is raising a lot of money, so all we can do is fight
for every vote, assumed nothing. Volunteer phone bank for the eventual democratic nominee.
Get people registered to vote. Remember the effort that’s required to convert one Trumpist.
You can probably get 10 people, maybe even 15 people who already agree with us, but who
aren’t thinking about voting. Just convince them to vote. It’s a much more efficient means
of winning the election than trying to argue with Trump as to or in many cases, completely
beyond reach. That’s my sense of what we need to do over
the next 10 months and it’s only 10 months. Uh, we have, you know, it feels like this
is in a sense just ramping up. We’ve had a few debates, but the first votes are going
to be cast. I think it’s one month from today. Uh, we are going to know the nominee certainly
within six months because that’s when the DNC is. I think within three months we will
basically know who the nominee is going to be. There is not very much time left. The
election is now, Trump is ramping up with Iran. This is the time to activate and um,
I I actually a a Pat on today’s bonus show is going to bring us some interesting Joe
Biden related stuff that I think will be interesting to put it lightly and concerning to many in
our audience about some things that Joe Biden has recently said. We’ve got a great bonus show for you today,
producer Pat has the Friday bonus show. I will be back with a new show and I will be
hosting a bonus show on Monday. Thanks again for joining me. It is 2020. Keep those suggestions
rolling in about what you want to see more of from the David Pakman show in 2020. What
do you want to see less of? Some people thought I was serious yesterday when I said, if you
don’t want me hosting the David Pakman show any more, let me know. That was a joke. I
think I got six or seven real emails from people saying, David, don’t, uh, don’t actually, uh, quit hosting the David Pakman show. I’m
not going to, I’m, that was a joke, but I do want to hear from you. What do you want
in 2020 a bonus show coming up? You show you bonus show on Monday, the David Pakman [email protected]

Hey Prickless, Trump Will Win “Unanimously”

we have a voicemail number. That number is two one nine two David P here
is a voicemail to wrap up the year. So riddled with crazy that I don’t even know
where to start. Take a listen. A prickling. How’s you in the quirky Clinton lowers and
the black Muslim Obama overs? You know, I’ll tell you, you’re going to start
a civil war II. People pick on Trump. It’s going to win unanimously. A second term close. He doesn’t have a case. That’s why she goes, isn’t going to bring
the articles over to the Senate. Also, you know, you pick on everything. If it was Obama, the Muslim or crooked Clinton
or Biden, you don’t say anything about him. Don’t criticize them. They’re perfect. They’re Jesus reincarnated. You know, why don’t you pick on Lonnie and
next what size, what kind of tampon does she use? And what about the skid marks and Barron’s
Paty way you people are idiots. You know, you’re a communist in plain English,
and the capitalism is gonna win. And uh, you know, why don’t you go back to
South America where you came from? You go, where’s your little buddy, Patty? Uh, he’s not satisfying your wisdom anymore, right? So, listen, we’re used to the homophobia. We’re, we’re used to all of that stuff. Uh, I’ve heard, go back to South America many
times. Remember I am a citizen of the United States. Uh, but also, you know that we don’t criticize
Democrats and we criticize Democrats all the time. And in fact, I was just, I was just criticized
myself for being critical of the way that some Democrats are couching certain political
issues. Uh, I, I love that he says Trump’s going to
win unanimously. That I don’t know that they know that this
person knows what that means. Does unanimous mean that Trump’s going to
win every state? Is Trump going to win any, every vote? What does that mean unanimously? Uh, and then again, this idea that I’m a communist,
first of all, uh, that’s not true. And secondly, the idea that the threat is
from communism in the United States is laughable. There is no threat from communism in the sense
that there is no clamoring to turn the United States into a communist, uh, state reminiscent
of others that we have seen in history. So this is who we’re fighting since this is
the last voicemail is 2019. Here’s my message that I attached to it. We can’t convince those people to see reason
and come to our side. So let’s not try. Let’s not waste our time. 2020 starts tomorrow. Let’s focus on finding the half of the country
that doesn’t vote and getting the people that already agree with us to understand the importance
of getting out and casting a ballot in 2020 that’s it for today. Pat’s got the bonus show today. I will be back with you on January 2nd to
kick off the David Pakman show, the David Pakman [email protected]

Is It Time to Check Out of Politics?

Let’s go next to our caller from the nine
one nine area code w is nine one nine North Carolina. Is that me? Yes it is. Oh, hi David. Wow, this is cool. I didn’t expect you to actually answer me. That is North Carolina. It’s in Raleigh, North Carolina. It’s in Raleigh. Um, so, um, I guess my question, um, especially
involving current events in both Australia and, and uh, I ran after last night. Um, I was wondering, um, if there was anything
that you could say for those. Um, I guess I was wondering if there was any,
um, if there was any advice you had for those who were, who suffered from, uh, how do I
say this? Who suffer from, uh, eco anxiety and world
issues, anxiety that, uh, you could say to help? I don’t know. I mean, listen, here’s the thing. This is, I, I hesitate to do this because
I think that political and civic engagement is so important. So I, I, I’m saying this only take this for
what you want, right? But a lot of the stuff that’s going on around
the world, if you tune out, you’re going to be okay. And I don’t mean this flippantly, I just,
I see so many people including in my personal life who are just so effected by the disastrous
what’s going on with the environment, the embarrassment around the world. That is Trump. I actually understand some people who go,
Hey, you know what? My life’s, my lifespan is limited. Uh, I am just going to seek the, the most
pleasurable and least difficult life possible. I’m just going to focus on my day to day enjoyment. I’m going to try to tune out a lot of what’s
going on. Like I, I don’t think that that’s good as
a society, but at the individual level I get doing it, you know, because it’s, it’s getting
so bad right now and I’m not necessarily recommending that you do that, but I would understand that
if you did for your own wellbeing. [inaudible] I’ve, I’ve tried, I’ve tried that in the past
and it didn’t, I’m more, um, I’m trying to face this, trying to get more, I’m trying
to face this by getting more involved in things, go into more fruits and have been like speaking,
speaking out publicly about it. I see. In other words, you’re not looking, you’re
not looking to, um, you’re not looking to just feel better. You’re looking to actually make an impact, I guess, but I just don’t, yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, it depends on what issue,
you know, what you would do for the environment would be different than what you might do
for local government in terms of whether getting more involved makes sense. But that’s good. I mean, listen, you, you know, when I say
I understand people completely checking out, I don’t think that it’s good and I think it’s
better for society. You know, if we all check out, then they get
a free and clear path to the hoop, so to speak, to use a sports analogy. So I actually think that it’s right that you
want to get more involved. I, you know, we’d have to talk more about
exactly how you would do it, but I, I, uh, I applaud your instincts because it would
be far easier at this point to say, I just can’t do it. I’m checking out. No, I’ve, I’ve tried that before and it just
makes the [inaudible] it just makes going back to, it just makes going back to things
even worse, a diet that I totally understand. Well listen, uh, I appreciate that you want
to get more involved and let’s, you know, the, the first thing we can do is at every
level, let’s do the best we can. In November of 2020, there are local, state
and national elections. In 2020, we’re trying to remove Trump. We’re trying to take back the Senate, their
city councils, governorships. Let’s take the next 10 months and focus electorally. Uh, and uh, and then hopefully the changes
that come from the November election will give us four years or two years depending
on which office you’re talking about to try to make more change. I think that’s the immediate plan. All right. Thank you. Thank you David. I really appreciate you answering this for
me. Appreciate the call. Thank you so much and I hope to hear from
you again.