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>>>THIS MORNING WE’RE LEARNING>>>THIS MORNING WE’RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE TRUMP MORE ABOUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S LATEST ATTEMPT ADMINISTRATION’S LATEST ATTEMPT TO DETER IMMIGRANTS FROM PASSING TO DETER IMMIGRANTS FROM PASSING THE BORDER, BLOOMBERG REPORTING THE BORDER, BLOOMBERG REPORTING FOR MONTHS THE WHITE HOUSE HAS FOR MONTHS THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BEEN TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BLOCK UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT BLOCK UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT CHILDREN FROM ENROLLING IN CHILDREN FROM ENROLLING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS CALIFORNIA PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS CALIFORNIA BECOMES THE LATEST STATE TO BECOMES THE LATEST STATE TO CHALLENGE THE ADMINISTRATION’S CHALLENGE THE ADMINISTRATION’S PUBLIC CHARGE RULE WHICH AIMS TO PUBLIC CHARGE RULE WHICH AIMS TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR POOR MAKE IT HARDER FOR POOR IMMIGRANTS TO BECOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO BECOME LEGAL RESIDENTS. RESIDENTS. THE MASTERMIND BEHIND BOTH THE MASTERMIND BEHIND BOTH POLICIES, TRUMP AIDE STEPHEN POLICIES, TRUMP AIDE STEPHEN MILLER WHOSE PATH TO POWER MADE MILLER WHOSE PATH TO POWER MADE IT TO TWO FRONT PAGES THIS IT TO TWO FRONT PAGES THIS WEEKEND. WEEKEND. “THE TIMES” WRITING THIS. “THE TIMES” WRITING THIS. MR. MILLER NOW OCCUPIES A LARGE MR. MILLER NOW OCCUPIES A LARGE WEST WING OFFICE AND HAS WEST WING OFFICE AND HAS INFLUENCE ON VIRTUALLY EVERY INFLUENCE ON VIRTUALLY EVERY ELEMENT OF IMMIGRATION POLICY ELEMENT OF IMMIGRATION POLICY FROM THE WORDS THE PRESIDENT FROM THE WORDS THE PRESIDENT USES TO THE REGULATIONS. USES TO THE REGULATIONS. MR. MILLER IS A SPEECHWRITER, MR. MILLER IS A SPEECHWRITER, POLICY ARCHITECT, PERSONNEL POLICY ARCHITECT, PERSONNEL DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE AIDE, DIRECTOR, LEGISLATIVE AIDE, SPOKESMAN, AND STRATEGIST. SPOKESMAN, AND STRATEGIST. AT EVERY STEP, HE HAS PUSHED FOR AT EVERY STEP, HE HAS PUSHED FOR THE HARDEST LINE POSSIBLE. THE HARDEST LINE POSSIBLE. JOINING ME NOW THE REPORTER JOINING ME NOW THE REPORTER BEHIND THAT PIECE WITH THE “NEW BEHIND THAT PIECE WITH THE “NEW YORK TIMES” ALSO THE AUTHOR OF YORK TIMES” ALSO THE AUTHOR OF THE NEW BOOK OUT TOMORROW “A THE NEW BOOK OUT TOMORROW “A GOOD PROVIDER IS ONE WHO LEAVES GOOD PROVIDER IS ONE WHO LEAVES ONE’S FAMILY AND MIGRATION IN ONE’S FAMILY AND MIGRATION IN THE 21st CENTURY.” THE 21st CENTURY.” JOYCE VANCE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY JOYCE VANCE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY AND PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY AND PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA LAW SCHOOL AND OF ALABAMA LAW SCHOOL AND CONGRESSWOMAN SHERRILL BACK WITH CONGRESSWOMAN SHERRILL BACK WITH ME. ME. JOYCE, I WANT TO START FIRST JOYCE, I WANT TO START FIRST WITH THE REPORT THAT THE TRUMP WITH THE REPORT THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO BLOCK IMMIGRANT CHILDREN FROM BLOCK IMMIGRANT CHILDREN FROM ATTENDING PUBLIC SCHOOL. ATTENDING PUBLIC SCHOOL. I KNOW YOU DEALT WITH SOMETHING I KNOW YOU DEALT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN ALABAMA. LIKE THIS IN ALABAMA. WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENED?>>THIS IS CLEARLY>>THIS IS CLEARLY UN-CONSTITUTIONAL AND STEMS FROM UN-CONSTITUTIONAL AND STEMS FROM A SUPREME COURT CASE BACK IN THE A SUPREME COURT CASE BACK IN THE 1980s. 1980s. IN THE ALABAMA CASE, ALABAMA’S IN THE ALABAMA CASE, ALABAMA’S EFFORTS BY STATE LAW TO FORCE EFFORTS BY STATE LAW TO FORCE KIDS TO REVEAL THEIR PARENTS’ KIDS TO REVEAL THEIR PARENTS’ IMMIGRATION STATUS SO THEY COULD IMMIGRATION STATUS SO THEY COULD REGISTER FOR SCHOOL, A MEASURE REGISTER FOR SCHOOL, A MEASURE CLEARLY AN EFFORT TO FORCE CLEARLY AN EFFORT TO FORCE PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE WITHOUT PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE WITHOUT LEGAL IMMIGRATION STATUS TO LEGAL IMMIGRATION STATUS TO REVEAL THEMSELVES, WAS REVEAL THEMSELVES, WAS ULTIMATELY HELD ULTIMATELY HELD UN-CONSTITUTIONAL BY THE 11th UN-CONSTITUTIONAL BY THE 11th CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS AND THE CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS AND THE SUPREME COURT DECLINED TO SUPREME COURT DECLINED TO REVERSE THAT RULING. REVERSE THAT RULING. THIS IS A REALLY COMMON SENSE THIS IS A REALLY COMMON SENSE REASONING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT REASONING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. IT. IT SAYS, FIRST, IF THESE KIDS IT SAYS, FIRST, IF THESE KIDS CAN’T GET AN EDUCATION, THEY’LL CAN’T GET AN EDUCATION, THEY’LL NEVER BE ABLE TO MAKE A NEVER BE ABLE TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION. CONTRIBUTION. THAT WE SHOULDN’T PENALIZE THEM THAT WE SHOULDN’T PENALIZE THEM AT THAT YOUNG AGE. AT THAT YOUNG AGE. SECONDARILY, IT SAYS, WE AREN’T SECONDARILY, IT SAYS, WE AREN’T A COUNTRY THAT PUNISHES INNOCENT A COUNTRY THAT PUNISHES INNOCENT CHILDREN FOR DECISIONS THAT CHILDREN FOR DECISIONS THAT THEIR PARENTS MAKE. THEIR PARENTS MAKE. TWO, THREE, 4-YEAR-OLD KIDS TWO, THREE, 4-YEAR-OLD KIDS DON’T CHOOSE TO COME TO THIS DON’T CHOOSE TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. COUNTRY ILLEGALLY. EVEN OLDER CHILDREN ARE DIRECTED EVEN OLDER CHILDREN ARE DIRECTED BY THEIR PARENTS. BY THEIR PARENTS. THEY SHOULD STILL GET AN THEY SHOULD STILL GET AN EDUCATION. EDUCATION. THAT’S BEEN VERY CLEAR LAW IN THAT’S BEEN VERY CLEAR LAW IN THIS COUNTRY SINCE AT LEAST THE THIS COUNTRY SINCE AT LEAST THE 1980s. 1980s. SO THIS EFFORT TO GO AROUND SUCH SO THIS EFFORT TO GO AROUND SUCH A CLEAR RULE OF LAW IN SUCH A A CLEAR RULE OF LAW IN SUCH A MEAN SPIRITED WAY IS I THINK A MEAN SPIRITED WAY IS I THINK A VERY DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN VERY DANGEROUS DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. THIS AREA.>>CONGRESSWOMAN, WHILE IT MIGHT>>CONGRESSWOMAN, WHILE IT MIGHT BE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, DOES THE BE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, DOES THE SPIRIT OF IT REFLECT HOW AMERICA SPIRIT OF IT REFLECT HOW AMERICA CURRENTLY FEELS? CURRENTLY FEELS? WE KNOW OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION WE KNOW OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM IS FAILING. SYSTEM IS FAILING. ARE THERE AMERICANS WHO MIGHT ARE THERE AMERICANS WHO MIGHT NOT BE HARD LINE ANTI-IMMIGRANT NOT BE HARD LINE ANTI-IMMIGRANT AMERICANS WHO CERTAINLY DON’T AMERICANS WHO CERTAINLY DON’T SUPPORT CHILD SEPARATION POLICY SUPPORT CHILD SEPARATION POLICY BUT WHO DO SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT BUT WHO DO SUPPORT THE IDEA THAT UNTIL EVERY AMERICAN CHILD IS UNTIL EVERY AMERICAN CHILD IS GETTING A GOOD EDUCATION WE GETTING A GOOD EDUCATION WE SHOULDN’T OFFER AN EDUCATION TO SHOULDN’T OFFER AN EDUCATION TO OTHERS AND, YES, IT MAY BE OTHERS AND, YES, IT MAY BE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, BUT I’M JUST UN-CONSTITUTIONAL, BUT I’M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT. TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT.>>I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME>>I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME AMERICANS. AMERICANS. BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS SHORT-SIGHTED. SHORT-SIGHTED. WHEN WE’RE NOT EDUCATING YOUNG WHEN WE’RE NOT EDUCATING YOUNG PEOPLE, NOT DOING THE MOST WE PEOPLE, NOT DOING THE MOST WE CAN FOR OUR ECONOMY. CAN FOR OUR ECONOMY. YES, DO WE NEED TO DO A BETTER YES, DO WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB EDUCATING AMERICAN CITIZENS? JOB EDUCATING AMERICAN CITIZENS? CERTAINLY. CERTAINLY. I AM PROUD TO SAY NEW JERSEY HAS I AM PROUD TO SAY NEW JERSEY HAS ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC SCHOOL ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY EDUCATION SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. HOWEVER, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE HOWEVER, WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE HAVE YOUNG SURE THAT AS WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN HERE WHO WERE BROUGHT CHILDREN HERE WHO WERE BROUGHT HERE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR HERE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN THAT WE’RE GIVING THEM A OWN THAT WE’RE GIVING THEM A GOOD ECONOMIC FUTURE BECAUSE YOU GOOD ECONOMIC FUTURE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHEN WE’VE JUST HAD KNOW WHEN WE’VE JUST HAD D.A.C.A. REFORM PASSED IN THE D.A.C.A. REFORM PASSED IN THE HOUSE WHEN WE SEE THIS CHANCES HOUSE WHEN WE SEE THIS CHANCES ARE MANY OF THESE CHILDREN ARE ARE MANY OF THESE CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR GOING TO BE CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR ECONOMY IN THE FUTURE. ECONOMY IN THE FUTURE. THEY CAN’T DO THAT IF THEY DON’T THEY CAN’T DO THAT IF THEY DON’T HAVE AN EDUCATION. HAVE AN EDUCATION.>>GREAT POINT.>>GREAT POINT. JASON, IN YOUR PIECE ABOUT JASON, IN YOUR PIECE ABOUT STEPHEN MILLER YOU QUOTE SOME OF STEPHEN MILLER YOU QUOTE SOME OF HIS EARLY COLUMNS AND TV HIS EARLY COLUMNS AND TV APPEARANCES AND A COUPLE STUCK APPEARANCES AND A COUPLE STUCK OUT TO ME. OUT TO ME. THE QUOTE FROM THEODORE THE QUOTE FROM THEODORE ROOSEVELT INCLUDED IN HIS HIGH ROOSEVELT INCLUDED IN HIS HIGH SCHOOL YEARBOOK. SCHOOL YEARBOOK. THERE CAN BE NO 50/50 THERE CAN BE NO 50/50 AMERICANISM IN THIS COUNTRY. AMERICANISM IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS ROOM HERE FOR ONLY 100% THERE IS ROOM HERE FOR ONLY 100% AMERICANISM. AMERICANISM. ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE AMERICANS ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ARE AMERICANS AND NOTHING ELSE. AND NOTHING ELSE. AND THEN IN HIS FIRST JOB AS AN AND THEN IN HIS FIRST JOB AS AN AIDE TO A REPUBLICAN AIDE TO A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSWOMAN MICHELLE BACKMAN, CONGRESSWOMAN MICHELLE BACKMAN, ARGUING UNAUTHORIZED IMMIGRANTS ARGUING UNAUTHORIZED IMMIGRANTS WERE BRINGING IN DISEASES, WERE BRINGING IN DISEASES, BRINGING IN DRUGS, BRINGING IN BRINGING IN DRUGS, BRINGING IN VIOLENCE. VIOLENCE. WE HAVE HEARD VERY SIMILAR WE HAVE HEARD VERY SIMILAR LANGUAGE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE LANGUAGE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND IT SEEMS LIKE MILLER FORMED AND IT SEEMS LIKE MILLER FORMED THESE OPINIONS AT A YOUNG AGE THESE OPINIONS AT A YOUNG AGE YET WHEN HE JOINED THIS YET WHEN HE JOINED THIS ADMINISTRATION FORMER AIDES TO ADMINISTRATION FORMER AIDES TO THE PRESIDENT SAID HE’S JUST A THE PRESIDENT SAID HE’S JUST A SPEECHWRITER. SPEECHWRITER. A SPEECHWRITER WHO IS REALLY A SPEECHWRITER WHO IS REALLY SMART AND GETS THE PRESIDENT’S SMART AND GETS THE PRESIDENT’S VOICE. VOICE. HE IS NOT JUST A SPEECHWRITER HE IS NOT JUST A SPEECHWRITER ANYMORE. ANYMORE. HE’S HAD THESE VALUES FOR QUITE HE’S HAD THESE VALUES FOR QUITE SOMETIME AND NOW THOSE VALUES SOMETIME AND NOW THOSE VALUES AND VIEWS ARE BEING ENACTED IN AND VIEWS ARE BEING ENACTED IN POLICY. POLICY.>>NO, HE’S NOT JUST A>>NO, HE’S NOT JUST A SPEECHWRITER. SPEECHWRITER. HE IS THE MOST PROMINENT FACE OF HE IS THE MOST PROMINENT FACE OF A VERY INFLUENTIAL MOVEMENT THAT A VERY INFLUENTIAL MOVEMENT THAT HAS I THINK OVERTAKEN THE HAS I THINK OVERTAKEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE MOVEMENT TO RESTRICT THE MOVEMENT TO RESTRICT IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. AND I THINK THERE’S AN ELEMENT AND I THINK THERE’S AN ELEMENT OF POTENTIAL SELF-FULFILLING OF POTENTIAL SELF-FULFILLING PROPHESY IN THIS. PROPHESY IN THIS. CRITICS OF IMMIGRATION WORRY CRITICS OF IMMIGRATION WORRY THAT IMMIGRANTS WON’T THAT IMMIGRANTS WON’T ASSIMILATE, BUT IF YOU CONTINUE ASSIMILATE, BUT IF YOU CONTINUE TO TELL THEM THAT THEY’RE NOT TO TELL THEM THAT THEY’RE NOT WELCOME AND IF YOU DENY THEIR WELCOME AND IF YOU DENY THEIR CHILDREN ACCESS TO PUBLIC CHILDREN ACCESS TO PUBLIC EDUCATION, YOU’RE ALMOST EDUCATION, YOU’RE ALMOST ENSURING THE OUTCOME THAT YOU ENSURING THE OUTCOME THAT YOU FEAR. FEAR.>>JOYCE, THE LATEST IMMIGRATION>>JOYCE, THE LATEST IMMIGRATION MOVE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IS MOVE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IS THIS PUBLIC CHARGE RULE MAKING THIS PUBLIC CHARGE RULE MAKING IT HARDER FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO IT HARDER FOR IMMIGRANTS WHO REQUIRE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE TO REQUIRE GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE TO GET LEGAL STATUS. GET LEGAL STATUS. I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL LAWSUITS AROUND THAT THAT I WANT LAWSUITS AROUND THAT THAT I WANT YOU TO HELP US UNDERSTAND BUT AT YOU TO HELP US UNDERSTAND BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE PRESIDENT IS THE SAME TIME THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING HE IS SICK AND TIRED OF SAYING HE IS SICK AND TIRED OF IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THIS IMMIGRANTS COMING TO THIS COUNTRY AND IMMEDIATELY GOING ON COUNTRY AND IMMEDIATELY GOING ON WELFARE, LEAVING OUT THE FACT WELFARE, LEAVING OUT THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS THAT THE MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AREN’T COMING INTO THIS COUNTRY AREN’T CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE FOR WELFARE. CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE FOR WELFARE. I’M TALKING DREAMERS, I’M TALKING DREAMERS, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS, TEMPORARY WORKERS, SEASONAL TEMPORARY WORKERS, SEASONAL WORKERS, H1B VISA HOLDERS. WORKERS, H1B VISA HOLDERS. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE GET NONE OF THESE PEOPLE GET WELFARE. WELFARE. WHEN YOU’RE TALKING THE DAYS OF WHEN YOU’RE TALKING THE DAYS OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WE DIDN’T THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WE DIDN’T HAVE A WELFARE STATE. HAVE A WELFARE STATE.>>YOU KNOW, THIS CHANGE TO THE>>YOU KNOW, THIS CHANGE TO THE PUBLIC CHARGE RULE IS VERY MUCH PUBLIC CHARGE RULE IS VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE MEAN IN KEEPING WITH THE MEAN SPIRITEDNESS THAT REALLY SPIRITEDNESS THAT REALLY PERMEATES ALL OF THE PRESIDENT’S PERMEATES ALL OF THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY ON IMMIGRATION. POLICY ON IMMIGRATION. AND AS YOU POINT OUT IN THIS AND AS YOU POINT OUT IN THIS AREA, IT’S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM. AREA, IT’S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM. THIS IS PART OF AN IDEOLOGICAL THIS IS PART OF AN IDEOLOGICAL SHIFT. SHIFT. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT MILLER WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT MILLER DOESN’T COME TO IMMIGRATION WITH DOESN’T COME TO IMMIGRATION WITH ENORMOUS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE OR ENORMOUS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE OR POLICY WORK IN THE AREA. POLICY WORK IN THE AREA. HE IS PRIMARILY AN IDEOLOGUE SO HE IS PRIMARILY AN IDEOLOGUE SO THIS IS PART OF THE TREND OF THIS IS PART OF THE TREND OF CONTINUING TO RESTRICT NOT JUST CONTINUING TO RESTRICT NOT JUST IMMIGRANTS WHO COME WITHOUT IMMIGRANTS WHO COME WITHOUT LEGAL STATUS BUT ALSO LEGAL LEGAL STATUS BUT ALSO LEGAL IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION. IT IS DANGEROUS AND SURPRISINGLY IT IS DANGEROUS AND SURPRISINGLY SHORT-SIGHTED. SHORT-SIGHTED. YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SCHOOLS IN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SCHOOLS IN ALABAMA WHICH IS A HEAD COUNT ALABAMA WHICH IS A HEAD COUNT STATE. STATE. THAT MEANS IT’S FEDERAL FUNDING THAT MEANS IT’S FEDERAL FUNDING FOR EDUCATION BASED ON THE COUNT FOR EDUCATION BASED ON THE COUNT OF KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM WHEN OF KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM WHEN IMMIGRANT KIDS AND THE CHILDREN IMMIGRANT KIDS AND THE CHILDREN OF MIGRANTS DIDN’T GO TO SCHOOL OF MIGRANTS DIDN’T GO TO SCHOOL IN ALABAMA BECAUSE OF ITS BILL, IN ALABAMA BECAUSE OF ITS BILL, FUNDING DROPPED DRAMATICALLY AND FUNDING DROPPED DRAMATICALLY AND IT WAS SORT OF A WAY OF, YOU IT WAS SORT OF A WAY OF, YOU KNOW, CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO KNOW, CUTTING OFF YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR OWN FACE. SPITE YOUR OWN FACE. WE SEE MANY BAD ECONOMIC FALL WE SEE MANY BAD ECONOMIC FALL JOUTS JOUTS OUTS WHEN WE DON’T APPRECIATE OUTS WHEN WE DON’T APPRECIATE THE IMPETUS THE IMMIGRANTS BRING THE IMPETUS THE IMMIGRANTS BRING TO OUR ECONOMIC ENGINES. TO OUR ECONOMIC ENGINES.>>JASON, WE KNOW STEPHEN>>JASON, WE KNOW STEPHEN MILLER’S ANTI-IMMIGRANT IDEOLOGY MILLER’S ANTI-IMMIGRANT IDEOLOGY IS IN LINE WITH THE PRESIDENT’S IS IN LINE WITH THE PRESIDENT’S VIEWS. VIEWS. A LOT OF THEM HAVE MADE MAJOR A LOT OF THEM HAVE MADE MAJOR HEADLINES AND CAUSED HUGE HEADLINES AND CAUSED HUGE BACKLASH, TALKING THE MUSLIM BACKLASH, TALKING THE MUSLIM BAN, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, BAN, CHILD SEPARATION POLICY, BUT YOU NOTE IN YOUR PIECE THAT BUT YOU NOTE IN YOUR PIECE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POLICIES THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POLICIES NOT JUST IDEOLOGIES BUT POLICIES NOT JUST IDEOLOGIES BUT POLICIES THAT HAVEN’T GOENT THE SAME THAT HAVEN’T GOENT THE SAME ATTENTION BUT MAYBE THEY SHOULD. ATTENTION BUT MAYBE THEY SHOULD. WALK US THROUGH WHAT THEY ARE. WALK US THROUGH WHAT THEY ARE.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. I THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS I THINK THE PRESIDENT HAS INSTINCTS. INSTINCTS. I THINK STEPHEN MILLER HAS I THINK STEPHEN MILLER HAS POLICY KNOWLEDGE AND HAS AN POLICY KNOWLEDGE AND HAS AN ABILITY TO OPERATIONALIZE AS ONE ABILITY TO OPERATIONALIZE AS ONE OF HIS ALLIES PUT IT THE OF HIS ALLIES PUT IT THE PRESIDENT’S PHILOSOPHY. PRESIDENT’S PHILOSOPHY. STEPHEN MILLER KNOWS THE HUNDRED STEPHEN MILLER KNOWS THE HUNDRED RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT CAN RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT CAN SLOW DOWN THE APPLICATION FOR SLOW DOWN THE APPLICATION FOR VISAS THAT CAN MAKE IT HARDER VISAS THAT CAN MAKE IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LEGAL FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO BE IN THE COUNTRY TO RIGHT TO BE IN THE COUNTRY TO GET THEIR PAPERS THROUGH AND GET THEIR PAPERS THROUGH AND HE’S DONE THAT VERY HE’S DONE THAT VERY SUCCESSFULLY, QUITE OUT OF THE SUCCESSFULLY, QUITE OUT OF THE PUBLIC EYE. PUBLIC EYE.>>SO HE IS QUIETLY SLOW PLAYING>>SO HE IS QUIETLY SLOW PLAYING THESE MEASURES THAT ARE LEGAL THESE MEASURES THAT ARE LEGAL MEASURES FOR PEOPLE TO GAIN — MEASURES FOR PEOPLE TO GAIN –>>CRITICS CALL IT THE INVISIBLE>>CRITICS CALL IT THE INVISIBLE WALL. WALL.>>CONGRESSWOMAN, WHAT DO YOU DO>>CONGRESSWOMAN, WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THAT? ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU ARE WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU ARE PUBLICLY FIGHTING A PRESIDENT PUBLICLY FIGHTING A PRESIDENT GETTING FUNDING FOR A WALL GETTING FUNDING FOR A WALL BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND MEXICO AND BEING SUCCESSFUL? MEXICO AND BEING SUCCESSFUL? WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT THE INVISIBLE WALL? INVISIBLE WALL?>>WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS>>WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IS COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM. REFORM. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR IMMIGRATION WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR IMMIGRATION POLICIES, THERE ARE MANY POLICIES, THERE ARE MANY IMMIGRATION POLICIES THAT I IMMIGRATION POLICIES THAT I THINK ARE IMMORAL LIKE CHILD THINK ARE IMMORAL LIKE CHILD SEPARATION. SEPARATION. THERE’S ALSO THE IMMIGRATION THERE’S ALSO THE IMMIGRATION POLICIES THAT ARE JUST HURTING POLICIES THAT ARE JUST HURTING OUR ECONOMY. OUR ECONOMY. AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE REVERBERATING THROUGHOUT REVERBERATING THROUGHOUT AGRICULTURE, THROUGHOUT OUR AGRICULTURE, THROUGHOUT OUR SEASONAL WORKER PROGRAMS, EVEN SEASONAL WORKER PROGRAMS, EVEN INTO SOME OF OUR COLLEGES AND INTO SOME OF OUR COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES WHICH ARE THE BEST UNIVERSITIES WHICH ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD NOW HAVING TROUBLE IN THE WORLD NOW HAVING TROUBLE RECRUITING SOME OF THE TOP MINDS RECRUITING SOME OF THE TOP MINDS IN THE GLOBE. IN THE GLOBE. THESE ARE REALLY GOING TO IMPACT THESE ARE REALLY GOING TO IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO GROW OUR ECONOMY OUR ABILITY TO GROW OUR ECONOMY IN THE FUTURE. IN THE FUTURE.>>REMIND OUR AUDIENCE, ILLEGAL>>REMIND OUR AUDIENCE, ILLEGAL BORDER CROSSINGS WERE AT A BORDER CROSSINGS WERE AT A 50-YEAR LOW WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA 50-YEAR LOW WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA LEFT OFFICE. LEFT OFFICE. IN TERMS OF COMPREHENSIVE

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ALTHOUGH SHE WAS NOT ON HIS PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING PAYROLL, HE HELPED ORGANIZING HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS HIS LIFE AND CALLING HER “HIS BEST FRIEND.” BEST FRIEND.”>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND>>LET’S BRING IN TOM WINTER AND OUR STEVE EATON. OUR STEVE EATON. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. TOM, TO YOU FIRST. REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT REVELATIONS IN EACH COURT DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID DOCUMENTS OF MAXWELL, WHAT DID THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT THEY CONFIRM THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ALREADY? KNOW ALREADY? THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A THIS IS THE DAUGHTER O F A SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER SWINDLER AND A CON MAN WHEN HER FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED FATHER ROBERT MAXWELL DIED MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF MYSTERIOUSLY FOUND NAKED ALL OF HIS YACHT. HIS YACHT. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. HE OWNED OVER 40 BANKS. $4 BILLION. $4 BILLION. HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF HOW DID HESHE ROLL WITH SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE WORLD AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS WHERE SHE IS. SHE IS. HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF HOW CAN SHE AFFORD LIVING OFF THE GRID? THE GRID? I CAN’T. I CAN’T.>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S>>GETTING INTO THE MAXWELL’S FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE FINANCES AND GETTING INTO THE EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, EXACT QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED, HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO HOW IS SHE ABLE TO AFFORD TO DO THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS THIS OR AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS WORLD. WORLD. WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN DOCUMENTS THAT JEFFERY EPSTEIN BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE BOUGHT HER A HELICOPTER AND SHE FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN FLEW THAT HELICOPTER AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU LOOK AT THIS. YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN HOW DID SHE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THIS LIFESTYLE AND HOW MUCH OF THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THOSE MEANS CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND CAME FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HOW MUCH WAS MONEY SHE MAY HAVE HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HAD THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. SEPARATE FROM HER FATHER. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. THE WHOLE THING IS A MYSTERY. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE GETS INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. INTO EPSTEIN’S WORLD. IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED IT IS A MYSTERY HOW SHE STAYED THIS IN WORLD. THIS IN WORLD. SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF SHE HAD A FRONT ROW SEAT OF CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. CHELSEA CLINTON’S WEDDING. HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND HOW DID SHE STAY IN THIS MIX AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND TRAVEL IN THESE CIRCLES AND WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR WHERE DID THINGS GO NEXT FOR HER? HER?>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY>>NO AUTHORITIES KNOW AND THEY HAVE NOT TOLD US? HAVE NOT TOLD US?>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY>>IT IS NOT A QUESTION THEY WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. WOULD DIVLULGE TO US. NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD NOBODY HAVE SEEN HER OR HEARD FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. FROM HER FOR A LONG TIME. WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER WE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO HER ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. ATTORNEYS NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE WHEN WE DO THIS STORY AND WE TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT SOMEBODY SPECIFICALLY IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR IN THEIR ACTIONS, IT IS THEIR POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO POLICIES HERE AND WE TRY TO REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND REACH OUT TO THAT PERSON AND THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE THAT PARTY BECAUSE THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. RIGHT THING TO DO. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. WE WANT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY. IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, IF MAXWELL IS STILL SOLICITING, WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON DOCUMENTS THAT YOU REFERENCED ON FRIDAY. FRIDAY.>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD,>>STEVE, NOW WHAT HE’S DEAD, ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING ALL THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE INTO WHETHER IT IS GHISLAINE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE MAXWELL’S MONEY OR TO DEUTSCHE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE BANK, WHERE DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS GO? INVESTIGATIONS GO? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM? DO THEY DIE AWAY WITH HIM?>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT>>THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE. HERE. THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND THERE IS MONEY MOVING LEFT AND RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING RIGHT AND TRANSACTIONS DATING BACK MANY YEARS. BACK MANY YEARS. THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF THESE ARE MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. DOLLARS MOVING AROUND. THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO THE BANKS ARE SERPTCERTAINLY LOO AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE AT THEIR OWN RECORDS AND THERE IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT IS A LOT TO LOOK AT HERE AS IT RELATE TO THE MONEY. RELATE TO THE MONEY.>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS>>IT WAS JUST REPORTED MOMENTS AGO. AGO. WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR WEXNER WAS THE ONLY SOURCE FOR EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE EPSTEIN TO GET AS WEALTHY AS HE DID. DID. WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WEXNER GAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS WHICH WAS UNHEARD OF OVER HIS BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. BILLION DOLLARS FORTUNE. WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW WEXNER IS NOW IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. MONTHS WORKING WITH AUTHORITIES. WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WHY DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND IF YOU ARE LES WEXNER AND EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS EPSTEIN STOLE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A OF DOLLARS FROM YOU OVER A DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK DECADE AGO, WHY WOULD YOU WORK WITH AUTHORITIES THEN. WITH AUTHORITIES THEN.>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN>>MR. WEXNER REVEALED HE’S BEEN A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. A VICTIM OF FINANCIAL. MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION MR. EPSTEIN HAD THIS AFFILIATION WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. WITH HIM FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. SO THAT RAISES QUESTION. WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED WHY AUTHORITIES WERE NOT CALLED IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT IN BACK IN 2007, AT THE TIME IT WAS DISCOVERED. WAS DISCOVERED.>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO>>HAD WEXNER GIVEN AN ANSWER TO THAT? THAT?>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S>>IF I WALK INTO VICTORIA’S SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A SECRET RIGHT NOW AND STOLE A BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED. BRA, I WOULD GET ARRESTED.>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL>>WHY WOULD WEXNER NOT CALL AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 AUTHORITIES WHEN EPSTEIN STOLE 6 BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST. BILLION BUCKS FROM HIM AT LEAST.>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME>>WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A AMOUNT OF MONEY, ROUGHLY A $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS $100 MILLION RECRUITED BACK AS PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT PART OF THIS BUT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT. BEEN A FULL AREA ON THAT ASPECT.>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON>>WILL THERE BE A LEGAL REASON TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE TO GET THESE ANSWERS FROM THE LIKES OF WEXNER. LIKES OF WEXNER. OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE OBVIOUSLY REPORTERS ARE INTERESTED. INTERESTED. LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE LES WEXNER DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE OUR CALLS. OUR CALLS. ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR ARE THERE GOING TO BE DEMANDS OR INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT INCREASES FROM THE GOVERNMENT NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD. NOW THAT EPSTEIN IS DEAD.>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL>>ONE IS FROM A CIVIL STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN STANDPOINT FOR THE VICTIMS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING WE TALK ABOUT THEM GETTING JUSTICE. JUSTICE. SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE SOME OF THESE FIGURES MAY HAVE FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY FUNDED EPSTEIN AND IF THAT MONEY AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO AND ANY MONEY THAT WENT TO EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY EPSTEIN TO FUND THIS CONSPIRACY THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT IT WAS BEING CHARGED WITH, THAT’S SOMETHING THAT THAT’S SOMETHING THAT PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST PROSECUTORS COULD BE INTEREST IN. IN. THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE THEY WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE MONEY CAME IN AND KEEP AN EYE ON. ON. FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY FOR THE LAST FOOIIVE YEARS, THEY HAD BANKING RECORDS. HAD BANKING RECORDS. IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN IF EARNINGS DISCLOSE THAT IN PUBLIC FILINGS. PUBLIC FILINGS.>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET>>WOULD IT BE EASIER TO GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW SOME OF THIS INFORMATION NOW THAT HE’S DEAD? THAT HE’S DEAD?>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I>>IF I AM EPSTEIN’S LAWYER, I AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS AM NOT GELTTTING PAID BY HIM AS SATURDAYS. SATURDAYS.>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY>>SOME OF THOSE ATTORNEYS MAY BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. BE MANAGING HIS ESTATE. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE BORA KIMABLES KIMABLES BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE BILLABLES KEEP GOING BECAUSE THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. THEY ARE MANAGING ON STATE. WE ARE REPORTING HERE — WE ARE REPORTING HERE –>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>EPSTEIN’S ATTORNEYS?>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE>>IT IS CONCEIVABLE THAT THE ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. ESTATE WOULD SUE MCC. DANNY DANNY DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A DANNY CEVALLOS BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT BEFORE. GREAT POINT BEFORE. IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY IRREGULARITYIES OF THIS FACILITY>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT>>HOLD ON, IRREGULARITIES THAT ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF. OPPORTUNITY TO KILL HIMSELF.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST.>>THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST. IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. TO CONSIDER. I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE I DON’T THINK THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END HAVE THIS BUTTON UP BY THE END OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS OF THE WEEK AND HOW IT IS EXECUTED IN THE STATE. EXECUTED IN THE STATE. IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY IT IS COMPLICATED AND DEFINITELY GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. GOING TO BE KEEP TRACK OF. THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY THE CIVIL ATTORNEYS DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO GET FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY FINANCIAL JUSTICE FROM JEFFERY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN.>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK>>STEVE, IF I AM DEUTSCHE BANK OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING OR JP MORGAN AND IP AM WATCHING THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO THE CLOCK, THIS GUY IS GOING TO HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM HAVE A TRIAL DATE A YEAR FROM NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE NOW, I AM GOING TO CALL TO BE TESTIFY, ARE ALL THOSE PARTIES

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ALL OF THESE ARE HALLMARKS OF DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST POLICIES. DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST POLICIES.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART. BUT JOINING US NOW, ALEXANDRIA BUT JOINING US NOW, ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ, THE DEMOCRATIC OCASIO-CORTEZ, THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR THE 14th DISTRICT. NOMINEE FOR THE 14th DISTRICT. SHE UNSEATED A TEN-TERM SHE UNSEATED A TEN-TERM INCUMBENT CONGRESSMAN, AND CORY INCUMBENT CONGRESSMAN, AND CORY BUSH IS WITH US HOPING TO PULL BUSH IS WITH US HOPING TO PULL OFF A SIMILAR FEAT IN MISSOURI’S OFF A SIMILAR FEAT IN MISSOURI’S FIRST DISTRICT. FIRST DISTRICT. GREAT EXPLANATION. GREAT EXPLANATION.>>THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU. I’M DYING TO GO FIRST. I’M DYING TO GO FIRST. THAT EXPLANATION MAKES SENSE TO THAT EXPLANATION MAKES SENSE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WATCH THAT ARE PEOPLE WHO WATCH THAT ARE ALREADY IN YOUR CAMP. ALREADY IN YOUR CAMP. BEING TIED TO THE WORD BEING TIED TO THE WORD SOCIALIST, ARE YOU CONCERNED SOCIALIST, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT WHEN YOU GET ON THE BIG THAT WHEN YOU GET ON THE BIG STAGE THAT COULD BE A KILLER FOR STAGE THAT COULD BE A KILLER FOR YOU? YOU? THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE THAT AREN’T GOING TO GO MIDDLE THAT AREN’T GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT EXPLAINER, AND WHEN THROUGH THAT EXPLAINER, AND WHEN THEY HEAR SOCIALIST, THINK THINK THEY HEAR SOCIALIST, THINK THINK MY HARD EARNED DOLLARS, I’M NOT MY HARD EARNED DOLLARS, I’M NOT READY TO GIVE THEM AWAY. READY TO GIVE THEM AWAY.>>I THINK THAT’S A LEGITIMATE>>I THINK THAT’S A LEGITIMATE CONCERN. CONCERN. I GO BACK TO HOW WE WON THE I GO BACK TO HOW WE WON THE RACE. RACE. WE DON’T WIN THIS RACE WITH WE DON’T WIN THIS RACE WITH LABELS OR SAYING I AM THIS OR LABELS OR SAYING I AM THIS OR THAT. THAT. WE ALWAYS RAN THIS RACE WITH OUR WE ALWAYS RAN THIS RACE WITH OUR GOALS AND OUR ISSUES IN MIND. GOALS AND OUR ISSUES IN MIND. WE RAN THIS RACE TALKING ABOUT WE RAN THIS RACE TALKING ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL. MEDICARE FOR ALL. WE WON THIS RACE TALKING ABOUT WE WON THIS RACE TALKING ABOUT OPENING TUITION FREE PUBLIC OPENING TUITION FREE PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. EXPANDING OUR EDUCATIONAL EXPANDING OUR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. OPPORTUNITIES. OUR TRANSIT AND BANKING. OUR TRANSIT AND BANKING. WE TALK DIRECTLY TO THE WE TALK DIRECTLY TO THE EXPLANATION THAT YOU WERE EXPLANATION THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. TALKING ABOUT. NOT EXPLAINING WHAT THESE NOT EXPLAINING WHAT THESE IDEOLOGIES ARE. IDEOLOGIES ARE. PEOPLE DON’T WAKE UP IN THE PEOPLE DON’T WAKE UP IN THE MORNING AND SAY I’M A CAPITALIST MORNING AND SAY I’M A CAPITALIST OR THIS OR THAT. OR THIS OR THAT. WE DON’T THINK ABOUT IDEOLOGY. WE DON’T THINK ABOUT IDEOLOGY. WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE’RE TRYING WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO GET DONE. TO GET DONE. I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE I THINK A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE MAKE THESE IDEOLOGIES, THEY TRY MAKE THESE IDEOLOGIES, THEY TRY TO MAKE THAT THE CONVERSATION TO MAKE THAT THE CONVERSATION POINT WITH THE INTENT OF BEING POINT WITH THE INTENT OF BEING DIVISIVE. DIVISIVE. WITH THE INTENT OF BEING WITH THE INTENT OF BEING ALIENATING. ALIENATING. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT I FOUND IN OUR DISTRICT WAS THAT I FOUND IN OUR DISTRICT WAS THAT MOST PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE MOST PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS HEALTH CARE. THAT EVERYONE HAS HEALTH CARE. MOST PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE MOST PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO THAT EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO AN EQUITABLE EDUCATION THROUGH AN EQUITABLE EDUCATION THROUGH COLLEGE. COLLEGE. AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING AND THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. ABOUT.>>CORY, ALL CAMPAIGNS ARE>>CORY, ALL CAMPAIGNS ARE UNIQUE. UNIQUE. THE ISSUES YOU FACE ARE GOING TO THE ISSUES YOU FACE ARE GOING TO BE UNIQUE. BE UNIQUE. BUT ARE THERE THINGS THAT YOU BUT ARE THERE THINGS THAT YOU SAW IN ALEXANDRIA SAW IN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ’S CAMPAIGN YOU’RE OCASIO-CORTEZ’S CAMPAIGN YOU’RE HOPING TO UTILIZE? HOPING TO UTILIZE?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>ABSOLUTELY. HER CAMPAIGN WAS POWERFUL. HER CAMPAIGN WAS POWERFUL. THE MOMENTUM WAS THERE. THE MOMENTUM WAS THERE. IT WAS ELECTRIC. IT WAS ELECTRIC. THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING ON THE THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND HERE IN ST. LOUIS. GROUND HERE IN ST. LOUIS. WE HAVE PEOPLE POWER. WE HAVE PEOPLE POWER. WE MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY, BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE THE MONEY, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND WE HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP AND SAYING THIS IS WHO I WANT. SAYING THIS IS WHO I WANT. IT’S ABOUT LEADERSHIP. IT’S ABOUT LEADERSHIP. IT’S NOT ABOUT LOYALTY. IT’S NOT ABOUT LOYALTY. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE POWER. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE POWER. IT’S ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO BEST IT’S ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO BEST REMIT AND FIGHT FOR WORKING REMIT AND FIGHT FOR WORKING FAMILIES AND EVEN THOSE THAT MAY FAMILIES AND EVEN THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED UNDER THAT NOT BE CONSIDERED UNDER THAT TERM. TERM. PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DISABILITY, PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DISABILITY, CHRONIC MENTAL ILLNESS, THEY CHRONIC MENTAL ILLNESS, THEY SHOULD HAVE A VOICE AT THE SHOULD HAVE A VOICE AT THE TABLE. TABLE. THAT’S WHAT I’M LOOKING AT WITH THAT’S WHAT I’M LOOKING AT WITH HER RACE AND THAT’S THE SAME HER RACE AND THAT’S THE SAME THING THAT’S HAPPENING WITH THING THAT’S HAPPENING WITH OURS. OURS.>>LET’S TALK ABOUT IMPACTFUL>>LET’S TALK ABOUT IMPACTFUL LEADERSHIP. LEADERSHIP. I CAN’T FIND ANYBODY OUT THERE I CAN’T FIND ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO SAYS I’M INSPIRED BY MITCH WHO SAYS I’M INSPIRED BY MITCH McCONNELL. McCONNELL. I’M DIEING TO SPEND TIME WITH I’M DIEING TO SPEND TIME WITH HIM. HIM. YOUR VIDEO WAS AMAZING. YOUR VIDEO WAS AMAZING. YOU HAVE INSPIRED PEOPLE. YOU HAVE INSPIRED PEOPLE. BUT MITCH McCONNELL IS A BUT MITCH McCONNELL IS A TACTICAL BEAST. TACTICAL BEAST. PEOPLE AREN’T SENDING HIM PEOPLE AREN’T SENDING HIM CHRISTMAS CARDS, BUT THEY’RE CHRISTMAS CARDS, BUT THEY’RE SENDING HIM CAMPAIGN DONATIONS. SENDING HIM CAMPAIGN DONATIONS. HE’S LEADING THE CHARGE TO GET HE’S LEADING THE CHARGE TO GET ANOTHER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN ANOTHER SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN POSITION. POSITION. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUCCESS THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SUCCESS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS PLAYING REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS PLAYING LIFE OR DEATH HARDBALL, WHAT DO LIFE OR DEATH HARDBALL, WHAT DO YOU TAKE FROM THAT AND WHAT ARE YOU TAKE FROM THAT AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU GOING TO DO?>>ONCE AGAIN, I THINK KIND OF>>ONCE AGAIN, I THINK KIND OF GOING BACK TO OUR INITIAL GOING BACK TO OUR INITIAL MESSAGE IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND IN MESSAGE IN THIS CAMPAIGN, AND IN THAT VIDEO, IT’S PEOPLE VERSUS THAT VIDEO, IT’S PEOPLE VERSUS MONEY. MONEY. WE’RE NOT GOING TO BEAT THEM AT WE’RE NOT GOING TO BEAT THEM AT THAT BIG MONEY GAME. THAT BIG MONEY GAME. THAT’S A TRAP. THAT’S A TRAP. WE NEED TO BEAT THEM WITH BIG WE NEED TO BEAT THEM WITH BIG ORGANIZING. ORGANIZING. THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT I JUST THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT I JUST WANT A RACE WHERE I WAS OUTSPENT WANT A RACE WHERE I WAS OUTSPENT TEN TO ONE. TEN TO ONE. I HAVE SHOWN THAT BIG ORGANIZING I HAVE SHOWN THAT BIG ORGANIZING IS POSSIBLE. IS POSSIBLE. I BELIEVE THAT BIG ORGANIZING IS I BELIEVE THAT BIG ORGANIZING IS THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. PARTY. I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL MAKE THEM I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL MAKE THEM LOSE THESE SEATS BECAUSE WE’VE LOSE THESE SEATS BECAUSE WE’VE GOT THE VOTES. GOT THE VOTES.>>BUT DID DEMOCRATS KNOW HOW TO>>BUT DID DEMOCRATS KNOW HOW TO UNIFY AND GET IT DONE? UNIFY AND GET IT DONE? BECAUSE CONSERVATIVES HAVE SHOWN BECAUSE CONSERVATIVES HAVE SHOWN IN YEAR THAT THEY DO. IN YEAR THAT THEY DO.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. WELL, I THINK THAT I CAN. WELL, I THINK THAT I CAN. I THINK CANDIDATES LIKE CORY I THINK CANDIDATES LIKE CORY BUSH CAN. BUSH CAN. I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTRIC I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE ELECTRIC CANDIDATES THAT DON’T TAKE CANDIDATES THAT DON’T TAKE CORPORATE LOBBYIST FUNDS SO CORPORATE LOBBYIST FUNDS SO THEIR COMMUNITIES TRUST THEM TO THEIR COMMUNITIES TRUST THEM TO ADVOCATE DIRECTLY FOR THEIR ADVOCATE DIRECTLY FOR THEIR NEEDS, I THINK THIS IS THE NEEDS, I THINK THIS IS THE FUTURE. FUTURE. YOU HAVE ELECTRIC CANDIDATES YOU HAVE ELECTRIC CANDIDATES LIKE CORY BUSH AND OTHERS THAT LIKE CORY BUSH AND OTHERS THAT UNIFY PEOPLE, EXCITE THE UNIFY PEOPLE, EXCITE THE ELECTORATE, AND REALLY WHAT THE ELECTORATE, AND REALLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS IS NONVOTERS. DEMOCRATIC BASE IS IS NONVOTERS. I KNEW THAT GOING INTO THIS. I KNEW THAT GOING INTO THIS. I KNEW THAT MY BASE WERE PEOPLE I KNEW THAT MY BASE WERE PEOPLE WHO DON’T USUALLY TURN OUT IN WHO DON’T USUALLY TURN OUT IN PRIMARIES. PRIMARIES.>>AND ALSO GOT DONALD TRUMP>>AND ALSO GOT DONALD TRUMP ELECTED. ELECTED. A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE. IT’S AN INTERESTING POINT, BUT IT’S AN INTERESTING POINT, BUT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR NONVOTERS IN A WAY WE DON’T FOR NONVOTERS IN A WAY WE DON’T TRADITIONALLY DO IN A CAMPAIGN. TRADITIONALLY DO IN A CAMPAIGN. YOU ARE PART OF JUSTICE YOU ARE PART OF JUSTICE DEMOCRATS. DEMOCRATS. THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS LIKE THERE ARE SOME POSITIONS LIKE ENSURING A LIVABLE WAGE TIED TO ENSURING A LIVABLE WAGE TIED TO INFLATION. INFLATION. IT’S GOING TO FIND RESISTANCE IT’S GOING TO FIND RESISTANCE FROM SOME PEOPLE. FROM SOME PEOPLE. WE TALK ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE. WE TALK ABOUT MINIMUM WAGE. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO COME OUT HERE, PARTICULARLY OUT HERE, PARTICULARLY REPUBLICANS WHO SAY THERE’S A REPUBLICANS WHO SAY THERE’S A MARKET THAT DICTATES WAGES AND MARKET THAT DICTATES WAGES AND HEALTH CARE. HEALTH CARE. WE HAVE ARGUED MANY, MANY TIMES WE HAVE ARGUED MANY, MANY TIMES THAT A MARKET ORIENTED HEALTH THAT A MARKET ORIENTED HEALTH CARE IS A BIT PERVERSE. CARE IS A BIT PERVERSE. IT’S LIKE MARKET ORIENTED IT’S LIKE MARKET ORIENTED PRISON. PRISON. WE DON’T WANT MORE DEMAND FOR WE DON’T WANT MORE DEMAND FOR THEM. THEM. BUT HOW DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS BUT HOW DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS INTO THAT NONVOTER CROWD WHEN INTO THAT NONVOTER CROWD WHEN YOU ACTUALLY FACE BUILT IN YOU ACTUALLY FACE BUILT IN RESISTANCE? RESISTANCE?>>SO ONE THING ABOUT IT IS>>SO ONE THING ABOUT IT IS PEOPLE THAT MAKE $7, $8 AN HOUR, PEOPLE THAT MAKE $7, $8 AN HOUR, THEY DON’T WORK LESS HARD THAN THEY DON’T WORK LESS HARD THAN PEOPLE WHO MAKE $30 AN HOUR. PEOPLE WHO MAKE $30 AN HOUR. SO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHAT SO MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES, PAY THEIR BILLS THEIR FAMILIES, PAY THEIR BILLS AND STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER AND STILL HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER TO SAVE SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING TO SAVE SHOULD NOT BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE TO BEG FOR. WE SHOULD HAVE TO BEG FOR. WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT WE KNOW OF THAT MOVE TO $15 AN HOUR OF THAT MOVE TO $15 AN HOUR MINIMUM — WAGE, AND THEY’RE MINIMUM — WAGE, AND THEY’RE PROSPERING AND DOING WELL. PROSPERING AND DOING WELL. AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, WE AND WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, WE CAN COME UP WITH MONEY TO BE CAN COME UP WITH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE TENT CITIES ABLE TO BUILD THESE TENT CITIES AND PAY $800 A DAY PER CHILD TO AND PAY $800 A DAY PER CHILD TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE THOUSANDS OF BE ABLE TO HOUSE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN. CHILDREN. WE CAN COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO WE CAN COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO DO THAT. DO THAT. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A DAY TO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A DAY TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE DETENTION HAVE PEOPLE IN THESE DETENTION CAMPS, THESE DETENTION CENTERS. CAMPS, THESE DETENTION CENTERS. BUT WE CAN’T MAKE SURE THAT BUT WE CAN’T MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING HARD PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING HARD EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE ABLE TO EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES? TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES? I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER. I THINK THAT WE CAN DO BETTER.>>THIS IS A BRILLIANT POINT.>>THIS IS A BRILLIANT POINT. AND WHAT CAN YOU LEARN AS A AND WHAT CAN YOU LEARN AS A CANDIDATE FROM DONALD TRUMP’S CANDIDATE FROM DONALD TRUMP’S STRATEGY? STRATEGY? I LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP ACE’S BAS I LOOK AT DONALD TRUMP ACE’S BAS WHO IS WILDLY LOYAL TO HIM AND WHO IS WILDLY LOYAL TO HIM AND THE POINT OF THE TENT CITIES. THE POINT OF THE TENT CITIES. DONALD TRUMP IS PLAYING TO HIS DONALD TRUMP IS PLAYING TO HIS BASE EMOTIONALLY THAT FEEL LEFT BASE EMOTIONALLY THAT FEEL LEFT OUT AND FORGOTTEN. OUT AND FORGOTTEN. IF WE SPENT THE TENS OF MILLIONS IF WE SPENT THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE’RE SPENDING ON THE OF DOLLARS WE’RE SPENDING ON THE TENT CITIES AND BROUGHT THEM TO TENT CITIES AND BROUGHT THEM TO RURAL AMERICA OR INNER CITIES RURAL AMERICA OR INNER CITIES AND GOT FASTER WI-FI OR BETTER AND GOT FASTER WI-FI OR BETTER HEALTH CARE OR BETTER SCHOOLS, HEALTH CARE OR BETTER SCHOOLS, THAT WOULD ENERGIZE THAT THAT WOULD ENERGIZE THAT NONVOTING BASE THAT GOT OUT NONVOTING BASE THAT GOT OUT THERE AND DIDN’T JUST VOTE FOR THERE AND DIDN’T JUST VOTE FOR HIM. HIM. THEY’RE WILDLY LOYAL TO HIM. THEY’RE WILDLY LOYAL TO HIM.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. AND I THINK THAT KIND OF SPEAKS AND I THINK THAT KIND OF SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE QUESTION WHEN DIRECTLY TO THE QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE SAY THESE IDEAS. PEOPLE SAY THESE IDEAS. WHO IN CONGRESS IS GOING TO WHO IN CONGRESS IS GOING TO RESONATE WITH THE IDEAS? RESONATE WITH THE IDEAS? FOR ME IT’S ABOUT WHICH OF THE FOR ME IT’S ABOUT WHICH OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RESONATE WITH THESE IDEAS? RESONATE WITH THESE IDEAS? AND WHAT WE FIND IS THAT I AND WHAT WE FIND IS THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE, US AS VOTERS, US VOT ELECTORATE, US AS VOTERS, US VOT FOR A VERY BOELDSLD AGENDA. FOR A VERY BOELDSLD AGENDA. WHEN WE TRY TO WATER DOWN THAT WHEN WE TRY TO WATER DOWN THAT AGENDA BECAUSE OF FEARS OF WHAT AGENDA BECAUSE OF FEARS OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK, WE FIND WE DON’T PEOPLE THINK, WE FIND WE DON’T HAVE A MESSAGE. HAVE A MESSAGE. WE CANNOT RUN WITHOUT A MESSAGE. WE CANNOT RUN WITHOUT A MESSAGE. DONALD TRUMP RAN WITH A MESSAGE. DONALD TRUMP RAN WITH A MESSAGE. IT WAS DISTURBING. IT WAS DISTURBING. IT WAS DIVISIVE. IT WAS DIVISIVE.>>BUT MIGHTILY CLEAR.>>BUT MIGHTILY CLEAR.>>IT WAS CLEAR.>>IT WAS CLEAR. FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THIS A FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THIS A TIME MORE THAN EVER TO BE TIME MORE THAN EVER TO BE BOELDS,BOELDSLD, BOELDS,BOELDSLD, TO BE CLEAR. TO BE CLEAR. SO SAY WE’RE A PARTY OF SOCIAL SO SAY WE’RE A PARTY OF SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR AMERICANS. JUSTICE FOR AMERICANS.>>THAT’S CLEAR.>>THAT’S CLEAR.>>WE NEED TO HAVE FIGHTERS.>>WE NEED TO HAVE FIGHTERS. WE SHOULD HAVE CHAMPIONS. WE SHOULD HAVE CHAMPIONS. PEOPLE READY TO LEAD THE ISSUES. PEOPLE READY TO LEAD THE ISSUES. IT’S NOT OKAY TO VOTE DECENT. IT’S NOT OKAY TO VOTE DECENT. YOU HAVE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT YOU HAVE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT BECAUSE WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH BECAUSE WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHAT’S THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HAPPENING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY’RE TAKING PEOPLE OUT. THEY’RE TAKING PEOPLE OUT. A LEADER IS BOLD. A LEADER IS BOLD. YOU’RE MOVING WITH NEW IDEAS AND YOU’RE MOVING WITH NEW IDEAS AND NOT AFRAID TO STAND UP FOR THE NOT AFRAID TO STAND UP FOR THE PEOPLE YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO SERVE.

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MAKE.>>I HOPE THIS ENDS UP BEING A>>I HOPE THIS ENDS UP BEING A FRUITFUL CONVERSATION. FRUITFUL CONVERSATION.>>>SOME SOLUTIONS HAVE FINDING>>>SOME SOLUTIONS HAVE FINDING CONSENSUS WHILE OTHERS ARE CONSENSUS WHILE OTHERS ARE DEFINITELY NOT. DEFINITELY NOT. PRESIDENT TRUMP AS WELL AS MANY PRESIDENT TRUMP AS WELL AS MANY REPUBLICANS ARE NOW ADVOCATING REPUBLICANS ARE NOW ADVOCATING FOR STRONGER BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR STRONGER BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR GUN PURCHASES. FOR GUN PURCHASES. A BILL STRENGTHENING BACKGROUND A BILL STRENGTHENING BACKGROUND CHECKS PASSED THE HOUSE BUT HAS CHECKS PASSED THE HOUSE BUT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR ACTION IN THE BEEN WAITING FOR ACTION IN THE SENATE SINCE FEBRUARY. SENATE SINCE FEBRUARY. THE PRESIDENT CALLING FOR RED THE PRESIDENT CALLING FOR RED FLAG LAWS SUPPORTING BY SENATEOR FLAG LAWS SUPPORTING BY SENATEOR SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. DON JR. PUSHED BACK ON THE IDEA. DON JR. PUSHED BACK ON THE IDEA. GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES AND MANY GUN CONTROL ADVOCATES AND MANY DEMOCRATS CALLING TO REINSTATE DEMOCRATS CALLING TO REINSTATE THE BAN. THE BAN. REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE OPPOSED THAT IDEA. OPPOSED THAT IDEA. HERE WAS THE PRESIDENT TODAY HERE WAS THE PRESIDENT TODAY WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS POSITION. WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS POSITION.>>IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU CAN SPEAK>>IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU CAN SPEAK AND DO YOUR OWN POLLING. AND DO YOUR OWN POLLING.>>JOINING ME NOW IS OUR>>JOINING ME NOW IS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THANK YOU EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. FOR JOINING US.>>NO POLITICAL APPETITE.>>NO POLITICAL APPETITE. THESE ARE THESE MOMENTS IN THESE ARE THESE MOMENTS IN HISTORY WHERE LEADERSHIP IS HISTORY WHERE LEADERSHIP IS IMPORTANT. IMPORTANT. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT POLL THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT POLL WELL AND SOMETHING THAT DON’T. WELL AND SOMETHING THAT DON’T. IN THE FACE OF THESE MASS IN THE FACE OF THESE MASS KILLINGS AND THE TIES NOW OF KILLINGS AND THE TIES NOW OF WHITE NATIONALISM IN SOME CASES. WHITE NATIONALISM IN SOME CASES. I AM NOT SURE A POLITICAL I AM NOT SURE A POLITICAL APPETITE SHOULD BE OUR GUNS AND APPETITE SHOULD BE OUR GUNS AND PRINCIPLES. PRINCIPLES.>>ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAD SO>>ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAD SO MANY YEARS OF THE NRA AND GUN MANY YEARS OF THE NRA AND GUN LAWS. LAWS. WE HAVE SEEN POLITICIANS HAVE WE HAVE SEEN POLITICIANS HAVE NOT BEEN REPRESENTING THE WILL NOT BEEN REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN IT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEED OF GUN SAFETY. COMES TO THE NEED OF GUN SAFETY. SO YOU KNOW THERE IS NO SO YOU KNOW THERE IS NO POLITICAL WILL, THAT COULD BE POLITICAL WILL, THAT COULD BE BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE FILLING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE FILLING THE POCKET OF THE NRA. THE POCKET OF THE NRA. WE KNOW MAJORITY OF THE WE KNOW MAJORITY OF THE AMERICANS SUPPORT RESTRICTIONS AMERICANS SUPPORT RESTRICTIONS ON LARGE CAPACITY AND AMMUNITION ON LARGE CAPACITY AND AMMUNITION MAGAZINES AND ASSAULT WEAPONS. MAGAZINES AND ASSAULT WEAPONS. THAT’S THE MAJORITY OF GUN THAT’S THE MAJORITY OF GUN OWNERS. OWNERS. THERE IS NO POLITICAL APPETITE THERE IS NO POLITICAL APPETITE BECAUSE THESE POLITICIANS DO NOT BECAUSE THESE POLITICIANS DO NOT GET REALIZE DSD THAT THE AMERICA GET REALIZE DSD THAT THE AMERICA PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS. WITH THIS. WE SAW A COMPLETE CHANGE. WE SAW A COMPLETE CHANGE. WHAT USED TO BE A THIRD RAIL WHAT USED TO BE A THIRD RAIL ISSUE IS AN ABSOLUTE CENTRAL ISSUE IS AN ABSOLUTE CENTRAL ISSUE TO VOTERS. ISSUE TO VOTERS. WHEN WE SAW THE LAST WHEN WE SAW THE LAST CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION, IT WAS CONGRESSIONAL ELECTION, IT WAS NOT A HUGE TRANSITION IN NOT A HUGE TRANSITION IN CONGRESS. CONGRESS. WE SAW DOZENS AND DOZENS OF WE SAW DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THESE CANDIDATES RUNNING ON A THESE CANDIDATES RUNNING ON A GUN SAFETY PLATFORM AND WINNING GUN SAFETY PLATFORM AND WINNING AND EVEN IN STATES LIKE TEXAS AND EVEN IN STATES LIKE TEXAS AND GEORGIA AND COLORADO, THIS AND GEORGIA AND COLORADO, THIS IS NO LONGER A THIRD RAIL ISSUE. IS NO LONGER A THIRD RAIL ISSUE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THE THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING ON. ON.>>DONALD TRUMP JR. SAYS IT GOES>>DONALD TRUMP JR. SAYS IT GOES AROUND DUE PROCESS. AROUND DUE PROCESS. RED FLAG LAWS TO BE ADJUDICATED RED FLAG LAWS TO BE ADJUDICATED OR SOMEONE DETERMINED TO BE A OR SOMEONE DETERMINED TO BE A THREAT, THEY CAN BE DELAYED IN THREAT, THEY CAN BE DELAYED IN ACQUIRING A GUN. ACQUIRING A GUN.>>THE WAY IT WORKS IS SIMPLY>>THE WAY IT WORKS IS SIMPLY SIMILAR TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SIMILAR TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROTECTION. PROTECTION. YOU CAN GO IN AND SOMEBODY YOU CAN GO IN AND SOMEBODY SHOWING REAL SIGNS OF BEING A SHOWING REAL SIGNS OF BEING A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. THERE IS A TEMPORARY REMOVAL OF THERE IS A TEMPORARY REMOVAL OF THAT PERSON’S GUN TO BY GUNS THAT PERSON’S GUN TO BY GUNS PENDING A FULL HEARING WITHIN 14 PENDING A FULL HEARING WITHIN 14 DAYS. DAYS.>>BY DEFINITION DUE PROCESS.>>BY DEFINITION DUE PROCESS.>>YOU CAN’T GO OUT AND TAKE>>YOU CAN’T GO OUT AND TAKE SOMEBODY’S GUN AWAY. SOMEBODY’S GUN AWAY.>>EVEN JUST TO DO THE INITIAL>>EVEN JUST TO DO THE INITIAL REMOVAL, THERE HAS TO BE REMOVAL, THERE HAS TO BE CREDIBLE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO A CREDIBLE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO A JUDGE IN ORDER TO TEMPORARILY JUDGE IN ORDER TO TEMPORARILY REMOVE WEAPONS. REMOVE WEAPONS. THERE WAS A LOT OF CARE TAKEN IN THERE WAS A LOT OF CARE TAKEN IN WRITING THESE LAWS TO MAKE SURE WRITING THESE LAWS TO MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE IT. TO PROVIDE IT.>>INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO — IN>>INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO — IN SOME CASES THESE ARE COMPROMISE SOME CASES THESE ARE COMPROMISE ARRANGEMENTS. ARRANGEMENTS.>>THE DRAFTING WAS DONE>>THE DRAFTING WAS DONE CAREFULLY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT CAREFULLY TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT OF PROCESS AND SECOND AMENDMENT, OF PROCESS AND SECOND AMENDMENT, TO ENSURE THIS IS A CRISIS TO ENSURE THIS IS A CRISIS TEMPORARY MEASURE WHEN WE HAVE TEMPORARY MEASURE WHEN WE HAVE SIGNS. SIGNS. YOU LOOK AT PARKLAND, THIS WAS A YOU LOOK AT PARKLAND, THIS WAS A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS SO SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS SO MUCH EVIDENCE OF THE THREAT AND MUCH EVIDENCE OF THE THREAT AND RISK OF THAT INDIVIDUAL RISK OF THAT INDIVIDUAL PRESENTED IN THE COMMUNITY. PRESENTED IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE WAS NOTHING IN PLACE TO THERE WAS NOTHING IN PLACE TO TEMPORARILY REMOVE THOSE GUNS. TEMPORARILY REMOVE THOSE GUNS. THESE LAWS, I GET ASKED THESE LAWS, I GET ASKED QUESTIONS WHAT LAWS WILL PRESENT QUESTIONS WHAT LAWS WILL PRESENT IT? IT? I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BEFORE I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BEFORE WE LOOK AT PASSING FEDERAL RED WE LOOK AT PASSING FEDERAL RED FLAG LAWS OR THE LEGISLATION FLAG LAWS OR THE LEGISLATION THAT IS, WE MUST PASS A THAT IS, WE MUST PASS A UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK LAWS. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK LAWS. THEY CAN’T ACTUALLY BE PROPERLY THEY CAN’T ACTUALLY BE PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT UNIVERSAL IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS EVEN IF YOU BACKGROUND CHECKS EVEN IF YOU HAVE A RESTRICTION, IF YOU CAN HAVE A RESTRICTION, IF YOU CAN JUST GO TO A GUN SHOW OR ONLINE. JUST GO TO A GUN SHOW OR ONLINE. THOSE LAWS WON’T BE EFFECTIVE. THOSE LAWS WON’T BE EFFECTIVE.>>YOU DEAL WITH IT ALL THE>>YOU DEAL WITH IT ALL THE TIME. TIME. DO YOU SENSE THE MOMENTUM. DO YOU SENSE THE MOMENTUM. DOES THE PRESIDENT SAY WE SHOULD DOES THE PRESIDENT SAY WE SHOULD DO THIS? DO THIS? WILL THAT TIP THE BALANCE OF WILL THAT TIP THE BALANCE OF ANYTHING? ANYTHING? WILL IT GET US A VOTE IN THE WILL IT GET US A VOTE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE? UNITED STATES SENATE?>>IT SHOULD FOR SURE.>>IT SHOULD FOR SURE.>>RIGHT NOW THE OBSTACLE IS>>RIGHT NOW THE OBSTACLE IS MITCH McCONNELL. MITCH McCONNELL. HE HAS NOT BROUGHT IT, HE NEEDS HE HAS NOT BROUGHT IT, HE NEEDS TO CALL THE SENATE BACK IN. TO CALL THE SENATE BACK IN. THEY NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. THEY NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. THE PRESIDENT IS BEHIND THIS. THE PRESIDENT IS BEHIND THIS. WE KNOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WE KNOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING IT. DEMANDING IT. CONGRESS ARE BEHIND IT. CONGRESS ARE BEHIND IT. MITCH McCONNELL WHO ARE IN THE MITCH McCONNELL WHO ARE IN THE POCKET OF THE NRA TAKING MILLION POCKET OF THE NRA TAKING MILLION OF DOLLARS OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND OF DOLLARS OF CONTRIBUTIONS AND REFUSING TO CALL IT FOR A VOTE. REFUSING TO CALL IT FOR A VOTE. WHEN 90% OF AMERICANS LAUNCH WHEN 90% OF AMERICANS LAUNCH THIS. THIS. HE REFUSED TO CALL IT FOR A HE REFUSED TO CALL IT FOR A VOTE. VOTE. WHO DOES HE REPRESENT? WHO DOES HE REPRESENT? HE DOES NOT REPRESENT THE

Only 12% Of Voters Say Their Mind Is Made Up On 2020 Democrats | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC



welcome back to vel Chien ruling the race for the White House it's Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren on top a new NBC news/wall Street Journal poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden at 26% senator Elizabeth Warren at in second place at 19 percent she's behind Biden by only 7 points senator Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders are tied at 13% mayor Pete budahas trails at 7% Andrew yang and former Texas congressman better or orcas are at 2% everybody else is at under 2% joining me now NBC News and MSNBC politics senior editor Beth Phooey Beth talked to me about Elizabeth Warren's gains we've really been spending the last two weeks talking about Kamala Harris's gains possibly at the expense of Joe Biden but but Bernie Sanders seems to have come down a little bit and and what are we thinking about where where comma where Elizabeth Warren is getting her gains from yeah Ali she's been on a steady ascent for a while and and though this poll is noteworthy because it's the first time at one that we have conducted since our debate last month a lot of what we're seeing there really hasn't changed them from before the debate that slow but steady ascent of Elizabeth Warren has continued so even though Kamala Harris had that big breakout moment at the poll at the debate where she could challenge to Biden on on issues of race and busing that didn't really according to our poll change things substantially it's still that Warren sort of slow steady uptick which brought with it a slow steady down trick Twitter continuing from Pernis Sanders who just seems to be losing a lot of that sort of progressive ground tools with Warren let's talk about Elizabeth Warren we've talked about being very big on policy and coming out on very regular basis in policy there's an interesting finding in this poll that indicates that the number of Democrats who want to elect a candidate who prefer and not prefer a nominee who shares their views is actually down and the number of people who want the best candidate to defeat Trump is up by the same amount what do you how do you interpret this particular number well that's what something that's been going on for the beginning this candidate all these voters she's meeting Cromwell issues versus beating Trump at all so that sort of notion of Kent can I have both or do I have to make a choice right that's why we have seen so few voters actually come down hard on which candidate they want this it's only 12% of firmly made up their minds everyone else is shopping and it's a matter of shopping around for the best sort of policy person a lot of people give props to her for being very detailed or do they just purely looking at electability which is why Biden is still hanging in there so if you look at those top five and we can put better or work and Andrew yang in there even though they're a lot further back if you look at this grouping here these these what is that four seven does anybody else have an ability to get onto this page they're below 2% it's really hard to see that you know this group has actually been the group that's been the top tier for quite some time they've kind of been changing places a little bit amongst them but really it's been this group it's been this v and everybody else is way down now of course we've got another debate coming up at the end of July some of the lower tier candidates will try to throw some long bombs hoping to get that break and as you described to me last night that may be their best chance you're running a low 2% it may be their only chance because in in September when that September debate comes along the threshold is much higher and probably a much larger number of the candidates that we've seen on this and our debates and on CNN's will be gone so this is really this upcoming debate the in July is going to be their last chance but we didn't see it happen from this from our debate we basically saw a lot of candidates you know make big statements make big bold comments but it didn't change their standing in the polls it right every Leon Castro great exact cost row bill de blasio we haven't seen any change with those guys so really it seems like this top tier has been set there but something a little bit of a chance that somebody could step in there but it's very little african-american voters are a very big deal take a look at this polling that shows the top five candidates amongst white voters and then they're standing among black voters Biden has taken a bit of a hit maybe it's just because he was such a front-runner in the beginning and everybody sort of been targeting him or maybe it was what Carla Harris said it debate whatever it is take a look Biden and Elizabeth Warren are tied amongst amongst white voters but look at where we are with black voters Joe Biden is far in a way the most popular and that's what's keeping him as the top number one candidate for sure he is got a strong support among African American or it may have taken a little bit of hit but it's still there it's still enduring because of his relationship to Barack Obama in particular but also because he's a known quantity he was been there for a long time been there in many ways for the community over time Kamala Harris is is potentially going to break through she's an african-american woman of course but she's still getting sort of to be introducing herself at this point to black voters so for now as long as Joe Biden has those black voters on his side he will remain in the top position hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down there and click on any of the videos here to watch the latest interviews and highlights you can get more MSNBC for free every day with our newsletters just visit msnbc.com slash newsletters to sign up now

House Democrats Intensify Focus On Mueller Report | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC



we start with breaking news on the fight between the Department of Justice and House Democrats just a short time ago the DOJ agreed to hand key evidence collected by the Muller investigation over to the House Judiciary Committee the agreement fulfilled a subpoena issued by the committee chairman Jerry Nadler and opposed by the Department of Justice for weeks the deal comes as the committee prepares to hold a hearing less than an hour from now looking at presidential obstruction of justice calling Nixon White House Counsel John Dean to testify and that is just the beginning of several House actions this week on Tuesday the house will vote on whether to hold former White House Counsel Don Magan in contempt of Congress for failing to respond to a different subpoena issued by the Judiciary Committee a scheduled vote to hold the Attorney General in contempt was cancelled as part of the deal with the Department of Justice meanwhile the House Intelligence Committee will hold a hearing on Russian meddling in the United States elections on Wednesday now behind the scenes of all of this as the president prepares to officially launch his re-election campaign next week multiple lawmakers tell NBC News that House Democrats are crafting a bill that would among other things require presidential campaigns to report foreign contacts joining us now to our former assistant Watergate prosecutor Jill wine banks an NBC News national political reporter Heidi Prez bola Heidi let's start with you about what's going on what do we know first of all about this deal between the Department of Justice and the House Judiciary and how that came together this seems to be an initial deal that hopefully Jerry Nadler hopes will lead to more information for right now what we know is that the judiciary or the Justice Department has agreed to provide quote/unquote the most important information regarding obstruction of justice the underlying materials this is what the Judiciary Committee has been after for quite a while to get those underlying documents as well as the classified information so that what we are told is that this is just an initial step what's going to happen is that for now they're going to hold off on voting on criminal contempt against the Attorney General but they will go forward on Tuesday in terms of voting on ways that they can enforce their subpoenas and they will also continue to hold a vote on holding down Magan the former White House Counsel in civil contempt Heidi the contempt vote against Barr is off but I know that there's a planned lawsuit the Democrats have threatened to file so help us understand what the actual consequences are the consequences are that they are starting a negotiation here stuff and they are very much still holding out the possibility that they will go forward with those lawsuits and you can see that in the votes that are going to take place tomorrow because what they're saying is okay attorney general Barr we are glad that you are complying with this initial request for the underlying documentation but we want more and we're going to authorize our committee chairs to go forward to enforce those subpoenas and to go to court if necessary if you don't comply with everything that we've asked for which is all of the classified portions of the report as well as all of the underlying documents this is just a portion at this point we can't even characterize yet how much information the Attorney General has agreed to give yet so very much Jerry Nadler wants to see more information and so this will be part of a negotiation they are going to empower themselves with this vote tomorrow and this is where you have to kind of understand the difference between getting the ability to go to court and distinguish that from an actual filing of these lawsuits jill tom sorry Doug Collins a Republican from Georgia put out a statement after this deal got made where he said today's good faith provision from the administration further debunks claims that the White House is stonewalling Congress which chairmanships successful negotiations with the Justice Department already showed do you read this to be constraining more cooperative with Congress or what do you make of this no I read this as a sign that the stronger stance by Chairman adler and his committee has worked that they understand that if they do not do what the law requires it sort of reminds me a little bit about the press conference that Archibald Cox gave the the Saturday night massacre that led to the Saturday night massacre where he said we have a right to these tapes and we need these tapes and the compromise being proposed is not acceptable and that's what led to the Saturday night massacre and I think that what the House Judiciary Committee has rightly said is we have a right to this information we need this information and the Department of Justice is now seeing the wisdom of cooperating so it's working Heidi do you see the Democrats effort changing or is it more that they're just pressing harder they're you know unrelenting in their efforts or are they changing strategy they are not changing strategy stuff what they're doing here is finding a way to hold hearings at the same time that they come up with creative ways to compel witnesses to compel testimony and to get the documents that they need to hold those hearings right now they don't have any of those things so hopefully this is a big breakthrough in terms of their getting this information in their hands and ate being able to review this within the committee however they're still very much lacking on those other fronts in terms of getting all of these witnesses like Don McGann like hope Hicks to come before the committee so what they're doing now is saying okay if we can't get the witnesses we can still hold the hearings and my reporting is that the way that they plan to do that is by crafting legislation that really highlights some of the worst wrongdoing in the Moller report for instance you flagged it at the beginning of the segment but introducing legislation called duty to report which would require the campaign aides of for any campaign who may be getting advances from foreign contacts like the Trump campaign did to report that we saw more than a hundred contacts laid out in the Moller report and in some of the reporting around the Moller report between the Trump campaign and Russian officials that were never reported to the FBI so even if they don't get these witnesses immediately the strategy by house leadership is to go ahead and still hold these hearings highlighting the wrongdoing a Jill there are hearings underway about obstruction of justice including John Dean and and Joyce Vance Barbara McQuade what do you think the goal of those hearings are what should we be expecting as those continue through today and tomorrow I think those hearings are going to be very important I think that the American people will get more of an understanding of what is obstruction of justice why is it important how does it impact a an investigation why possibly did Muller not get everything he needed was because the obstruction was successful that it is an important crime and that it doesn't require an underlying crime I think that it's going to be very powerful I've I'm expecting really important testimony from John Dean especially I think that everybody should tune in and listen in basically less than an hour because I think they're going to be surprised by how much you can learn from the past about what is going on now I think the legislation that Heidi was just talking about is a wonderful way of showing that the Democrats can do two things at once they can hold the president accountable and pass significant legislation I also think we ought to realize it's a shame that we need to be having legislation like this these are norm breaking things that have been done that you wouldn't think you needed a law to provide against and it means needs to be made clear that for example if reporting isn't done a foreign context that it can be prosecuted when it is discovered even if the person who did it is the president of the United States at the time that you discover the wrongdoing heidi has to be based on your reporting do you believe these hearings Jill points out the importance of why so many people need to listen and learn do you believe that Democrats are sort of setting the table to an audience that already believes this is anything happening in the coming days that will have Republicans tuning in moving the leading needle are getting more of the American public to start to say hey maybe we need to do something different you raise a very important question stuff ask Jill what the difference between Watergate and today is one of the big differences that you didn't have such bifurcated media you didn't have a Fox News which may or may not cover these hearings so yes if you're watching some of the mainstream channels and you're getting your information from the mainstream newspapers you may know a lot of the things that have already been reported in the Moller report so it's still an open question as to whether these hearings are going to be sustainable enough to you know draw a sustained media focus where it reaches some of these other American citizens who maybe aren't familiar with what's in the report we had a woman on this network just several days ago who said she thought there was nothing bad in the Moller report for President Trump so it's still very much an open question whether these hearings are going to reach the people who aren't familiar with what's in the report hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our YouTube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down there and click on any of the videos here to watch the latest interviews and highlights you can get more MSNBC for free every day with our newsletters just visit msnbc.com slash newsletters to sign up now

Lineup Of Democrats For First 2020 Debates Announced | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC



we now know the matchups who will face off on each of the two nights of the first Democratic primary debates hosted by NBC News here they are the announcement comes less than 24 hours after finding out which 20 candidates made the cut for the debate stage the two-hour event will air on June 26th and June 27th live from Miami right here on MSNBC on NBC News until a Mundo joining me now NBC national political correspondent Steve Kornacki I think arguably this is one of the key moments in in all of the campaign right it's going to be a long campaign but for a lot of these one-percenters to percenters their first chance in front of millions of people so my question for you is let's start with night one a lot of people already saying well this is a chance for Elizabeth Warren as the one sort of top tier candidate to shine I wonder if it doesn't provide an even bigger opening without say a Biden or Bernie for some of these people who are lower in the polls to break through yeah I mean I think look you can call this one the opportunity debate the first night debate Elizabeth Ward there are five candidates right now this massive Democratic field there are five candidates right now who are really getting measurable traction in the polls four of them are going to be in the second night debate only one of them Warren is going to be in the first night debate so as you say opportunity for Warren to walk on this stage and be the biggest star on this stage and potentially on this stage that's the upside potential for her for these other candidates though they are facing different challenges an obvious one here is better O'Rourke somebody who got into this race with some expectations but really his trajectory has gone south ever since then he's not going to be overshadowed on this stage by a Biden by a Sanders by a Budaj edge by a Harris so there is an opportunity there for a reintroduction for a better O'Rourke some of these other candidates know I you know John Delaney Bill DeBlasio who Leon Castro Tulsi gabbar jay Inslee Tim Ryan in particular these are candidates right now remember as this debate season and as this campaign progresses and we get into the fall the criteria that they use to get into subsequent debates but it's going to increase the thresholds for polling support the thresholds for donations received are going to increase just to make the stage so candidates like Ryan Inslee Gabbard Delaney they right now need to have some kind of a breakout performance this is probably the best opportunity they're going to get to start getting the difference for them between getting between zero and one percent in the polls which is largely what they've been doing so far and getting three four five percent that is the difference over the next few months as this campaign progresses to being included in future debates or not so I say opportunity debate they're not going to be overshadowed by most of those bigger names who are leading the field right now they're probably gonna get you know there's a lot of candidates three or four at-bats let's say if one of those candidates can knock it out of the park on one of those at-bats that could be the difference between staying in this thing through the fall and also three women at that debate but let's go to night two because that's where what arguably a lot of the heavy hitters are going to be there there you see Joe Biden is in that debate Pete Buddha judge Bernie Sanders Kamala Harris I am so curious right now inside their war rooms per se how this changes their strategy that they're in a debate with so many other big-name contenders right such as so many variables now and of course what the DNC the way this was structured the way this draw was structured they were trying to get a mix-and-match they were trying to get some from the top tier some from the bottom get it sort of a broad mix each night but ultimately it does become luck of the draw they took the top performing candidates they kind of put them in a hat half we're gonna go one night half we're gonna go the other but the luck of the draw as you say Biden's number one in the polls right now Sanders is number two in the polls right now it's a it's a bit of a shuffle behind that but Harris Budaj edge they are right up there and again Warren's the only other one that's really registering so you got four of the five heavy hitters at this point are going to be on that second night stage obviously Biden comes in the front-runner and the immediate question becomes specifically these other three does one of them do all of them come in with a plan to directly go after Joe Biden does Bernie Sanders want to confront Joe Biden and try to draw a stark idiot logical contrast between him and say you know Joe Biden you're the candidate of the establishment this is why we need a revolution this is why the establishment doesn't work how does he choose how do these others choose to engage with Biden yeah and I was looking at the numbers for the big Republican debates the first debates for you three years ago we're looking at 23 24 million people and for folks frankly who aren't known except by people like us who do deep dives everyday on politics big opportunities are gonna get ya hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down there and click on any of the videos here to watch the latest interviews and highlights you can get more MSNBC for free every day with our newsletters just visit msnbc.com slash newsletters to sign up now

GOP Rep. Justin Amash Says Donald Trump Has Engaged In Impeachable Conduct | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC



deep into politics because Republicans are piling on a sitting member of their own party after Michigan congressman Justin Amash made his case for the president's impeachment and he did it on the president's favorite medium Twitter ensuring it would be seen in the White House in a series of tweets Amash said the president quote engaged in impeachable conduct something the congressman defined as conduct that violates the public trust according to a March the Mullah report provided multiple examples of conduct satisfying all of the elements of obstruction of justice adding that impeachment which is a special form of indictment does not even require probable cause the president's surprise surprise responded on Twitter saying he was never a fan of the congressman capping off his replied with a predictable insult justin is a loser who sadly plays right into our opponents hands Wow joining me now NBC news chief White House correspondent Hallie Jackson and former assistant US attorney Mimi Roca Mimi let's talk the law before we talk politics what exactly it what argument is Amash making that takes us out of the political realm where he's saying this is just the law yeah look Amash looked at the document I mean it sounds like he actually read it which I think distinguishes him from a lot of members of Congress who are saying who are defending Trump's conduct and he is looking at the specific facts and saying the elements are three elements you need an obstructive act done in with intent in connection with a sort of ongoing proceeding it's not that complicated and Moeller laid out 12 acts there are nearly 1,000 federal former federal prosecutors of both parties bipartisan group who have signed a statement saying what Amash has said so they could pile on him all he wants but the facts are on his side and if people actually read the report if you look at the efforts to fire Robert fuller and then get don McGann to lie about it when that comes out there is just no rational way someone can say that is not obstructive conduct and that's just one example the facts are on his side Hallie but the president and the GOP are not Justin Amash is a relatively unknown name nationally and people have said as soon as he came out with this Democrats are gonna get behind them but the reason we've gotten so much attention it's because the president came out against him we know that the GOP did why are they so concerned with one single congressman is saying so I'm not it is interesting stuff when you look at the response from both sides of the aisle right so let's start with Republicans as you're talking about and yes the fact that they are talking about what congressman Amash said could be indicative of concern or frankly it could be indicative of them closing ranks around president Trump and trying to show the president the guy sitting in the White House behind me here that they are on his side they are on his team and that dissent in this sense is not going to be something that will be condoned you've had everybody from the head of the RNC for example come out and call it sad that Amash is saying and tweeting what he's been saying and tweeting as for Democrats even Democrats though don't see this as the crack in the wall that's gonna lead to the floodgates opening right that's something that congressman Adam Schiff a powerful chairman has said that this is simply a tool senator mazie Hirono was out also saying that this is not something that is going to be seen as a bipartisan call for impeachment as you know that has long been Nancy Pelosi's bar for moving to impeach Trump if there was a bipartisan groundswell of support for this and frankly one congressman and that congressman being Justin Amash is not gonna cut it he is not somebody who is like a Kevin McCarthy ask or Steve Scalise ask figure in the party somebody who is with his finger on the pulse of where most of the GOP caucus is he is often sort of an outsider vote or an outsider voice and so that's an important context to remember here but he's an outsider voice but as as a freedom caucus guy this move and his views are core to what they've always cared about right they don't like a big deficit they don't like a lot of spending and they don't like government overreach so it's not that Amash has jumped the shark couldn't he look to Mick Mulvaney and say Nick you're not standing by what we stand for but the jumping of the shark is you phrase that Stephanie has jumped the shark long ago right in the sense of freedom caucus members and keep in mind that Amash is even an outlier on the freedom caucus side right mark Meadows is somebody whose key to the freedom caucus Jim Jordan they are Quotes allies of President Trump congressman meadows in particular so yes there is now this two year plus long question of conservatives who are okay with a deficit getting bigger adding to the national debt etc which go against conservative principles but Mick Mulvaney is an example of that somebody who under the Donald Trump era and the Trump administration looks to other priorities now growing the economy I think he and others were telling you in different ways now maybe let's go back to the report because the president and his closest allies continued to say that Rob that there the president is completely exonerated when of course the last line of that report no person sits above the law and then they cited US versus Nixon but the special counsel also highlights the president's conduct involving Michael Cohen his personal lawyer who he told to stay on message when he was testifying to Congress about the Moscow project stay on message yeah I mean when you say it when you look at the words of the report and thank you for doing that stuff because we need to focus back on the report and not just the legal battles over it the conduct is stunning I mean as a former prosecutor and again I'm gonna go back to that statement because we're talking about decades of experience of former federal prosecutors who saw conduct like that and there are people sitting in jail for conduct like that right now he engaged in mob like tactics with Cohen but oftentimes with the mob the mob boss is smart enough that he never has blood on his hands and this is obviously a different scenario but the President may have communicated stay on message but it was Michael Cohen who lied not the president absolutely but I think you know if you look at that in isolation if you're looking for a handwritten note from Donald Trump to Michael Cohen to lie or an explicit statement to lie yeah you're not gonna find that but all the circumstantial evidence to show that is there everyone knows that the reason Michael Cohen was lying was to stay in message with Trump he basically said his own message publicly and II got him to lie about the storm and Daniels I think that was more explicit and he really intimidated first he tried to get Cohen not to cooperate through inducements and of messages and then when it looked like Cohen was cooperating he engaged in witness intimidation this is blatant stuff hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down there and click on any of the videos here to watch the latest interviews and highlights you can get more MSNBC for free every day with our newsletters just visit msnbc.com slash newsletters to sign up now

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not having voted in the affirmative the motion is not agreed to so there you have it the motion was not agreed to 52 senators voted in favor of this proposal NBC's Kelly O'Donnell is back with us Kelly how many Republicans did we see break with a break here with their party and vote to reopen well I don't have the whip count yet because I was just in a scrum with Senator Chris Coons of Delaware so just roll with me for a second on they're not saying that about 20 senators of both parties are about to make their position known that they want to call for a three-week reopening of the government with negotiations during that time for additional border spending he is a Democrat so what he described is more in line with the kind of plussing up of funding for an array of things that would improve border security – a wall I asked him if this is a trust exercise because clearly the environment here is showing that these measures are not passing and he said it is a test of trust but he also talked about the fact that this is weakening the US government weakening the economy weakening the state of democracy as it's viewed around the world and he said while there is a deficit of trust there is rising anger in senators of both parties so expect that as we do our rolling coverage here to be something that will bubble up shortly where he says as many as 20 senators of both parties will step forward and say they need a short-term fix to get the paychecks flowing and then serious negotiations to begin again we Kelly those places before where that doesn't work out but that's the temperature we're taking right now case Kelly I so forgive me for putting you on the spot on the whip count we got a note here in from our hill team the Republicans who voted yes include a couple names that may underscore the point you're making that perhaps there are more Republicans and a broader bipartisan group that really do want to see an end to this some of the Republicans who voted yes include Lamar Alexander he's retiring of course so that gives him a little more freedom but all Johnny Isakson of Georgia and Mitt Romney of Utah that's in addition to the usual suspects susan collins cory gardner lisa murkowski who as we know come from more competitive states what's your take on this group well this yes yes group as I would call it voting YES for the Republican plan and yes for the Democratic plan it does tell us something Lamar Alexander who is not running for re-election has also been a member of leadership and then stepped away from leadership because he wanted to be able to do more to bridge sort of these bipartisan divides so that makes sense to me Mitt Romney new to the Senate also talking about wanting to be someone who can bring about a focus on governance again often a critic of the president at times supportive of the president when he agrees so Murkowski of Alaska Lisa Murkowski Alaska is filled with federal workers and many of them are suffering at a pay level that without their paychecks they're really feeling it so she's been talking about that so this gives us a bit of a sense of where they could build kind of the let's do something because this isn't working coalition and we will watch to see what exactly they say now nothing happens without leadership buying on onto something like this and now that these votes have been taken which senator Coons and many others have said we all knew which way this would go but you have to take the vote to prove the outcome and so there isn't enough for a veto override for people who thought that might work and there isn't enough to get to 62 simply you know move to the next level so they're really at a point of everything that has been proposed from the basis of both parties isn't enough to get it done and so now you've got this coalescence of people who are not really moderates in their parties but are wanting to show they can govern saying we've got to do something so we'll have to follow this see if leadership signs off see if it gets any steam sometimes these groups sound good look good but don't go anywhere so we'll have to follow okay fast for sure Kelly O'Donnell right here on Capitol Hill yes thanks very much hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down there and click on any of the videos here to watch the latest interviews and highlights you can get more MSNBC for free every day with our newsletters just visit msnbc.com slash newsletters to sign up now

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I've heard from countless members of the FBI that are grateful and thankful for the president's decision and I think that you know we may have to agree to disagree we're not gonna get into a numbers game I mean I have heard from a large number of individuals that work at the FBI that said that they're very happy with the president's decision you repeated the claims slip of the tongue several times what exactly did you mean to say because you appeared to be reading so you appear to be reading those comments on several occasions what you mean to say look I've acknowledged that the word countless was a slip of the tongue why can't you acknowledge that what you set out was not true I said that the word I used countless and I also said if you look at what's in quotations for me it's that and it's that it was in the heat of the moment meaning that it wasn't a scripted talking point I'm sorry that I wasn't a robot like the Democrat Party when I was press secretary sir you know if I'm not reading it off a script I'm allowed to say anything right there's certain jobs yours mine hers where we're actually paid not to do that right that was the White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders playing defense today following revelations in Robert Muller's four hundred page report that she did in fact mislead the American people to defend President Trump now according to the report Sanders admitted she lied to reporters about FBI staffers losing confidence in former FBI director James Comey and later said it was quote not founded on anything but Sanders isn't the only White House staffer mentioned by the special counsel for obeying potentially problematic actions which could seem like obstruction yet president Trump's request there's also Reince Priebus the president's former chief of staff he disseminated false information to the Washington Post after Trump expressed his displeasure with the story that appeared in January of 2017 and then there Stephen Miller the president's current senior policy adviser he drafted lead regarding commis firing in which it was explicitly written Nikol me informed Trump on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation but the focus today is also on those in Trump's orbit who defied his requests that's because in the report Robert Muller writes quote the president's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the president declined to carry out his orders to accede to his requests let's tick through some of those people and who they are first of all Director of National Intelligence dan coats he refused to say publicly that no link existed between President Trump and Russia after he was asked to say that in the Oval Office in 2017 James Comey he defied the president's request to publicly push back on the suggestion that the President had a connection to the Russian election interference Trump's former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and former White House deputy chief of staff with staff Rick Dearborn they both did not deliver Trump's message to then Attorney General Jeff Sessions that he should confine the Russia investigation to future election interference only I want to make sure we make something clear at the time Corey Lewandowski did not work for president correct he has never been part of the administration so technically the president of the United States called up a private citizen and said can you call the Attorney General of the United States America yeah and influence him that is like me calling you and saying yo yo yo Ally you've got Jeff Sessions on TV later tonight during the commercial break you don't hit him up with X correct that's crazy think about that in terms of national security and he's not the only one Corey Lewandowski oh by the ways thought of as somebody who does often do the president's bidding he said no former White House Counsel Don McGann he refused to ask rod Rosen Stein to fire Muller and threatened to resign instead after the president asked him to do quote crazy using a word that I can't use on TV and then Attorney General Jeff Sessions he recused himself from the investigation despite Trump asking him not to do so the Attorney General rod Rosenstein he refused to hold a press conference at Trump's direction to take responsibility himself for the firing of James Comey so interesting that in all of these the report is very very clear about this Donald Trump asked a lot of people to do things that are at best immoral and it worth something more and a bunch of people said no joining us now Axios editor-in-chief Nick Johnston Nick when we walk through that list NBC has actually counted up 11 total staffers or allies mentioned in the report who the president asked them to do something and they referred many people in the last 24 hours are looking at this list and say wow turns out these people are heroes are they heroes or were they just trying to save themselves because I'm not breaking the law there's a whole lot of people on there who weren't whistleblowers who didn't stand up and quit they went right back to work for the president the next day we don't know the motivations of that I think it's a really fascinating question sir like why they decide to do those kinds of things we haven't really unpacked all of that but sort of like what stopped me in my tracks and I was reading it yesterday seemed that Corey Lewandowski who was an enforcer for the president who always did with the president like he at this point was like you know what I'm actually not a book about the president he didn't talk about the president's wrongdoing or bad intentions there no of course not but we don't know why he decided that this moment not to do that and I think that's what's really interesting and sort of like much more so and Don McGann we do know sort of like Hadley referred to himself in law report as a real lawyer which is like two contemporaneous notes on all these kinds of things and sort of actually took steps prepared to resignations like if the president makes me do this yeah this is Nick Sony and I'm quitting right hold on do you know that dime again told the president he was a real lawyer when the president was saying to him why can't you be more like Roy Cohn Roy Cohn who was disbarred right disbarred so let me ask you this given that we've had 24 hours to think about this if these people some of these 11 people who we just put up on the screen Dan coach James Comey Corey Lewandowski Rick Dearborn Don McGann others if they had done the president's bidding yeah would we be having a different conversation would this report look different I don't think so like well I read very closely the way Muller at the very end tries to win if his role to say whether there's obstruction sister not weather if you were to say that what kind of impact that would have on the presidency I think he very clearly realizes and when it's the president we're talking about here it's not up to a special council it's up it's a political discussion for Congress to have I think would be having a very different conversation in Congress about the next steps there even already they want the full report they're gonna call Mahler before the committee there Jerry Nadler said yesterday we're gonna follow the investigation wherever the evidence lead they're gonna dig into that I think regardless it would have been Congress's decision to make that call Muller God showed no sense of jumping into that interesting all right Nick good to see you as always thank you be here Thank You Nick Johnson and I just has that sure he watches cable news can I ask the president one question yeah if real lawyers don't take notes why do they call those yellow lined really extra-long notepads why don't they call them legal pads just wondering hey MSNBC fans thanks for checking out our youtube channel subscribe by clicking on that button down 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