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>>>FRIDAY AFTERNOON SO INCOME>>>FRIDAY AFTERNOON SO INCOME WE HAVE OF COURSE WE HAVE WE HAVE OF COURSE WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS. BREAKING NEWS. NEW EVIDENCE THAT MICROSOFT JUST NEW EVIDENCE THAT MICROSOFT JUST ANNOUNCED IRAN LINKED HACKERS ANNOUNCED IRAN LINKED HACKERS TRIED TO COMPROMISE E-MAIL TRIED TO COMPROMISE E-MAIL ACCOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH A U.S. ACCOUNTS ASSOCIATED WITH A U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. STARTING WITH THIS, WHAT? STARTING WITH THIS, WHAT?>>SO MICROSOFT IS FINDING OUT>>SO MICROSOFT IS FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS SOFTWARE THEY GIVE AWAY FOR THIS SOFTWARE THEY GIVE AWAY FOR FREE TO ELECTION CAMPAIGNS AND FREE TO ELECTION CAMPAIGNS AND PEOPLE INVOLVED IN POLITICS. PEOPLE INVOLVED IN POLITICS. I HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH I HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH THEM AT THE ASPEN SECURITY FORUM THEM AT THE ASPEN SECURITY FORUM THIS SUMMER AND THEY ARE REALLY THIS SUMMER AND THEY ARE REALLY FORWARD LEANING ON THIS. FORWARD LEANING ON THIS. WHAT THEY FOUND IS JUST IN THE WHAT THEY FOUND IS JUST IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS THEY HAVE LAST TWO MONTHS THEY HAVE TRACKED 2700 HACKING ATTEMPTS BY TRACKED 2700 HACKING ATTEMPTS BY THIS IRANIAN LINKED GROUP. THIS IRANIAN LINKED GROUP. AND ONE POLITICAL CAMPAIGN IS AND ONE POLITICAL CAMPAIGN IS WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. NOW, THE HACK AGAINST THE NOW, THE HACK AGAINST THE POLITICAL CAMPAIGN THEY ARE POLITICAL CAMPAIGN THEY ARE SAYING WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. SAYING WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL. THERE ARE FOUR SUCCESSFUL THERE ARE FOUR SUCCESSFUL ATTACKS. ATTACKS. THEY HAVE NOTIFIED THE PEOPLE THEY HAVE NOTIFIED THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. INVOLVED. THIS IS JUST YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE THIS IS JUST YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE STEPHANIE HOW LOW COST AND HOW STEPHANIE HOW LOW COST AND HOW EASY FOR A NATION STATE TO USE EASY FOR A NATION STATE TO USE CYBERATTACKS TO SEEK TO CYBERATTACKS TO SEEK TO MANIPULATE OUR POLITICS. MANIPULATE OUR POLITICS. IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO STOP IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO STOP ALL SPEAR PHISHING ATTACKS. ALL SPEAR PHISHING ATTACKS. EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 2016 AND WE’RE ALL STILL VULNERABLE. AND WE’RE ALL STILL VULNERABLE.>>HAVE THE HACKING VICTIMS BEEN>>HAVE THE HACKING VICTIMS BEEN NOTIFIED. NOTIFIED.>>MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY>>MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAVE. HAVE. THEIR NAMES ARE NOT BEING MADE THEIR NAMES ARE NOT BEING MADE PUBLIC BUT MICROSOFT TREATS THEM PUBLIC BUT MICROSOFT TREATS THEM AS CLIENTS AND HELPS MITIGATE AS CLIENTS AND HELPS MITIGATE THE DAMAGE AND ALSO REPORTS TO THE DAMAGE AND ALSO REPORTS TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHICH IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHICH IS ALSO TRACKING IRANIAN ACTORS BUT ALSO TRACKING IRANIAN ACTORS BUT MICROSOFT IS TELLING US ABOUT MICROSOFT IS TELLING US ABOUT THIS, NOT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT THIS, NOT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING AND WHICH I THINK IS INTERESTING AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE ASKING OUR

Breaking Down The Politics Of Impeachment | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI &>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI & RUHLE.” RUHLE.” AS THE UKRAINE CONTROVERSY AS THE UKRAINE CONTROVERSY CONTINUES TO UNFOLD, ALL EYES CONTINUES TO UNFOLD, ALL EYES ARE ON REPUBLICANS TO SEE IF ARE ON REPUBLICANS TO SEE IF THEY’LL CONTINUE TO STANDBY THEY’LL CONTINUE TO STANDBY PRESIDENT TRUMP. PRESIDENT TRUMP. MIT ROMNEY STRONGLY REBUTTEPUTE MIT ROMNEY STRONGLY REBUTTEPUTE PRESIDENT’S CALL TO INVESTIGATE PRESIDENT’S CALL TO INVESTIGATE THE PRESIDENT, CALLING HIM THE PRESIDENT, CALLING HIM WRONG. WRONG. SO FAR THE REPUBLICAN RANKS SO FAR THE REPUBLICAN RANKS HAVES NOT BROKEN. HAVES NOT BROKEN. NO MEMBERS OF THE GOP HAD NO MEMBERS OF THE GOP HAD EXPLICITLY SUPPORTED THE EXPLICITLY SUPPORTED THE IMPEACHMENT. IMPEACHMENT. A FEW LAWMAKERS HAVE PUSHED A FEW LAWMAKERS HAVE PUSHED BACK. BACK. WILL HURD SAYS HE WAS NOT WILL HURD SAYS HE WAS NOT COMFORTABLE OF THE TEXT MESSAGES COMFORTABLE OF THE TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN CONGRESS FUSHLOFFICIAL A BETWEEN CONGRESS FUSHLOFFICIAL A THE AIDE. THE AIDE. MEANWHILE DEMOCRATIC ENTHUSIASM MEANWHILE DEMOCRATIC ENTHUSIASM NO SURPRISE FOR IMPEACHMENT HAVE NO SURPRISE FOR IMPEACHMENT HAVE GROWN DRAMATICALLY FOR THE LAST GROWN DRAMATICALLY FOR THE LAST WEEK WITH ONLY NINE DEMOCRATS WEEK WITH ONLY NINE DEMOCRATS LEFT IN THE HOUSE WHO HAVE NOT LEFT IN THE HOUSE WHO HAVE NOT EXPLICITLY COME OUT TO SUPPORT EXPLICITLY COME OUT TO SUPPORT AND JUSTIN AMASH HAVE JOINED AND JUSTIN AMASH HAVE JOINED DEMOCRATS IN THEIR CALLS. DEMOCRATS IN THEIR CALLS. THERE ARE STILL A MAJORITY THAT THERE ARE STILL A MAJORITY THAT WANTS TO SEE THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO SEE THE PRESIDENT REMOVED FROM OFFICE. REMOVED FROM OFFICE. RECENT POLLS SHOW SUPPORT FOR RECENT POLLS SHOW SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT HOVERING AROUND 50%. HOVERING AROUND 50%. JOIN US NOW, MY FRIEND JONATHAN JOIN US NOW, MY FRIEND JONATHAN CAPEHART AND JONATHAN ALLEN. CAPEHART AND JONATHAN ALLEN. LET’S START WITH REPUBLICANS, LET’S START WITH REPUBLICANS, MR. ALLEN. MR. ALLEN. HOW SIGNIFICANT IS IT THAT MIT HOW SIGNIFICANT IS IT THAT MIT ROMNEY HAD COME OUT AND REPUTE ROMNEY HAD COME OUT AND REPUTE WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAVE SAID? WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAVE SAID?>>IT IS SIGNIFICANCE IN THIS>>IT IS SIGNIFICANCE IN THIS WAY, HE’S OFFERING A LEADERSHIP WAY, HE’S OFFERING A LEADERSHIP PATH AS YOU SUGGEST FOR OTHER PATH AS YOU SUGGEST FOR OTHER REPUBLICANS TO SAY THIS IS REPUBLICANS TO SAY THIS IS WRONG. WRONG. FOR THEM TO FIND A PLACE OF SORT FOR THEM TO FIND A PLACE OF SORT OF IMPEACHMENT TO STAND UP AND OF IMPEACHMENT TO STAND UP AND SAY THIS IS NOT THE WAY THAT THE SAY THIS IS NOT THE WAY THAT THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT SHOULD AMERICAN PRESIDENT SHOULD FUNCTION OR NOT NECESSARILY FUNCTION OR NOT NECESSARILY VOTING FOR OR CALLING FOR AN VOTING FOR OR CALLING FOR AN IMPEACHMENT. IMPEACHMENT. YOU HAVE ELECTED REPUBLICAN YOU HAVE ELECTED REPUBLICAN OFFICIALS THROUGH THEIR SILENCE OFFICIALS THROUGH THEIR SILENCE AND THROUGH THEIR ACT SUPPORT OF AND THROUGH THEIR ACT SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT ENDORSED SAYING THE PRESIDENT ENDORSED SAYING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES USING OFFICE OF THE STATES USING OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENCY, USING THE POWER OF PRESIDENCY, USING THE POWER OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE A POTENTIAL INVESTIGATE A POTENTIAL POLITICAL OPPONENT IN FOREIGN POLITICAL OPPONENT IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND TO CALL FOR THE COUNTRIES AND TO CALL FOR THE INVESTIGATION PUBLICLY AND INVESTIGATION PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY AND POSSIBLY TO USE PRIVATELY AND POSSIBLY TO USE LEVERAGE OF FUNDING TO GET AN LEVERAGE OF FUNDING TO GET AN INVESTIGATION GOING AGAINST THAT INVESTIGATION GOING AGAINST THAT OPPONENT. OPPONENT. I THINK ROMNEY IS TRYING TO SET I THINK ROMNEY IS TRYING TO SET OUT A PATH, AT LEAST SAY YOU OUT A PATH, AT LEAST SAY YOU SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT. SHOULD NOT BE DOING THAT.>>I KNOW WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM>>I KNOW WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM MANY REPUBLICANS MR. ALLEN. MANY REPUBLICANS MR. ALLEN. YOU MUST KNOW THIS. YOU MUST KNOW THIS. WHAT ARE THE TALKING POINTS FOR WHAT ARE THE TALKING POINTS FOR THOSE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE STILL THOSE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE STILL STICKING WITH TRUMP. STICKING WITH TRUMP. THOSE ARE TRIED TO MAKE THE THOSE ARE TRIED TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT’S HIGHLY UNUSUAL ARGUMENT THAT’S HIGHLY UNUSUAL AND SO SWAMPY, GIVE ME A BRAENG, AND SO SWAMPY, GIVE ME A BRAENG, IF WE ARE SAYING IT IS IF WE ARE SAYING IT IS UNACCEPTABLE FOR CHILDREN AND UNACCEPTABLE FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILY MEMBERS OF POLITICAL FAMILY MEMBERS OF POLITICAL OFFICIALS TO TAKE ANY OF THESE OFFICIALS TO TAKE ANY OF THESE JOBS, WELL, HALF OF THE PEOPLE JOBS, WELL, HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN WASHINGTON ARE GOING WHO LIVE IN WASHINGTON ARE GOING TO MOVE. TO MOVE.>>THEY GOT A PROBLEM.>>THEY GOT A PROBLEM. IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THEIR IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO DO FOR A CHILDREN ARE GOING TO DO FOR A LIVING IF THAT’S THE INDICATION LIVING IF THAT’S THE INDICATION GOING FORWARD. GOING FORWARD.>>THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO BE>>THE DEFENSE IS GOING TO BE THEY’RE GOING TO RETREAT TO THEY’RE GOING TO RETREAT TO PARTISAN TALKING POINT. PARTISAN TALKING POINT. WHAT THEY ARE HOPING FOR IS THE WHAT THEY ARE HOPING FOR IS THE PRESIDENT WILL STOP TALKING PRESIDENT WILL STOP TALKING ABOUT FEVER SWAMP CONSPIRACY ABOUT FEVER SWAMP CONSPIRACY THEORY SERVERS THAT GOT BURIED THEORY SERVERS THAT GOT BURIED IN UKRAINE AND WILL SIMPLY TRY IN UKRAINE AND WILL SIMPLY TRY TO ATTACK ON PARTISAN GROUNDS TO ATTACK ON PARTISAN GROUNDS THAT AND HOPE THAT REPUBLICAN THAT AND HOPE THAT REPUBLICAN VOTERS WILL STAY WITH THE VOTERS WILL STAY WITH THE PRESIDENT STRONGLY ENOUGH THAT PRESIDENT STRONGLY ENOUGH THAT BASICALLY ENOUGH REPUBLICAN BASICALLY ENOUGH REPUBLICAN SENATORS WILL STAY WITH HIM TO SENATORS WILL STAY WITH HIM TO PREVENT HIM FROM BEING REMOVED PREVENT HIM FROM BEING REMOVED FROM OFFICE. FROM OFFICE. THAT’S THE CLEAR INDICATION, THAT’S THE CLEAR INDICATION, THEY WANT HIM TO DO THINGS ALLOW THEY WANT HIM TO DO THINGS ALLOW THIS TO BE A PARTISAN FIGHT THIS TO BE A PARTISAN FIGHT RATHER THAN ONE THAT INVOLVES IN RATHER THAN ONE THAT INVOLVES IN CONSPIRACY THEORY. CONSPIRACY THEORY. JONATHAN CAPEHART, LET’S TALK JONATHAN CAPEHART, LET’S TALK DEMOCRATS. DEMOCRATS. SPEAKER PELOSI HAVE SAID, SPEAKER PELOSI HAVE SAID, SAID — CLEARLY NANCY PELOSI IS SAID — CLEARLY NANCY PELOSI IS COMPARING THIS TO THE MUELLER COMPARING THIS TO THE MUELLER REPORT. REPORT. BILL BAR’S FOUR PAGE SUMMARY BILL BAR’S FOUR PAGE SUMMARY MISCHARACTERIZING THE MUELLER MISCHARACTERIZING THE MUELLER REPORT ENDED UP BEING A HUGE WIN REPORT ENDED UP BEING A HUGE WIN FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND IT KIND OF BECAME WHITE NOISE TO IT KIND OF BECAME WHITE NOISE TO A LOT OF AMERICANS. A LOT OF AMERICANS. IS THIS TIME DIFFERENT? IS THIS TIME DIFFERENT?>>IT IS ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT.>>IT IS ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT. THE FACT THAT THE SPEAKER THE FACT THAT THE SPEAKER ANNOUNCED THE IMPEACHMENT ANNOUNCED THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS THE BIGGEST SIGN OF INQUIRY IS THE BIGGEST SIGN OF THAT. THAT. I THINK JONATHAN JUST SAID OUT I THINK JONATHAN JUST SAID OUT SO SIMPLY WHY THIS CHANGE THE SO SIMPLY WHY THIS CHANGE THE POLITICAL CALLOUSCULUSALCULUS. POLITICAL CALLOUSCULUSALCULUS. FIRST HE PUT OUT THE NOTE IN FIRST HE PUT OUT THE NOTE IN JULY — THE PERFECT PHONE CALL JULY — THE PERFECT PHONE CALL AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S AND THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S COMPLAINT COMES OUT. COMPLAINT COMES OUT. EVERY TIME THE PRESIDENT GONE ON EVERY TIME THE PRESIDENT GONE ON THE MICROPHONE WHETHER IT IS UP THE MICROPHONE WHETHER IT IS UP IN NEW YORK OR BACK HERE IN IN NEW YORK OR BACK HERE IN WASHINGTON, HE PUT OUT MORE WASHINGTON, HE PUT OUT MORE EVIDENCE THAT WHAT HE’S DONE IS EVIDENCE THAT WHAT HE’S DONE IS NOT ON THE NOT ON THE ON THE UP AND UP. ON THE UP AND UP. WHAT WE SAW EARLIER TODAY THAT WHAT WE SAW EARLIER TODAY THAT HE’S TRYING TO TAKE HIS HE’S TRYING TO TAKE HIS WEAKNESS, THIS INCREDIBLE WEAKNESS, THIS INCREDIBLE WEAKNESS OF HIS AND TURNING IT WEAKNESS OF HIS AND TURNING IT INTO A STRENGTH, STANDING THERE INTO A STRENGTH, STANDING THERE HOPING THE TALKING POINT OF HOPING THE TALKING POINT OF CORRUPTION STICKS WITH THE CORRUPTION STICKS WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN IN THE END, AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN IN THE END, THE CORRUPTION THAT’S HAPPENING THE CORRUPTION THAT’S HAPPENING IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THROUGH THE POWER OF HIS STATES THROUGH THE POWER OF HIS OFFICE SHAPING DOWN FOREIGN OFFICE SHAPING DOWN FOREIGN LEADERS TO GET THEM TO LEADERS TO GET THEM TO INVESTIGATE HIS POLITICAL INVESTIGATE HIS POLITICAL OPPONENTS. OPPONENTS. I NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION I NEVER THOUGHT IN A MILLION YEARS I WOULD BE IN A POSITION YEARS I WOULD BE IN A POSITION OF FINGER WAGGING THE PRESIDENT OF FINGER WAGGING THE PRESIDENT FOR VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION FOR VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. OF THE UNITED STATES.>>YOU BRING UP A POINT THAT I>>YOU BRING UP A POINT THAT I THINK WE SHOULD MIND OUR THINK WE SHOULD MIND OUR AUDIENCE. AUDIENCE. THE PRESIDENT WHEN HE WAS THE PRESIDENT WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING EARLIER SAID THEY SPEAKING EARLIER SAID THEY RELEASED THE TRANSCRIPT FROM RELEASED THE TRANSCRIPT FROM THAT CALL WHICH WE SHOULD REMIND THAT CALL WHICH WE SHOULD REMIND THE AUDIENCE THEY DID NOT. THE AUDIENCE THEY DID NOT. THEY RELEASED A SUMMARY. THEY RELEASED A SUMMARY. IT WAS NOT A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT IT WAS NOT A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT BY ANY MEANS. BY ANY MEANS. IS THERE A CHANCE, JONATHAN, THE IS THERE A CHANCE, JONATHAN, THE PRESIDENT IS SETTING A TRAP FOR PRESIDENT IS SETTING A TRAP FOR NANCY AND SAY YOU BRING A VOTE NANCY AND SAY YOU BRING A VOTE TO THE HOUSE FOR A FULL TO THE HOUSE FOR A FULL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND WE’LL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND WE’LL GIVE YOU THE DOCUMENTS. GIVE YOU THE DOCUMENTS. DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THERE IS A SCENARIO WHERE IF NANCY PELOSI SCENARIO WHERE IF NANCY PELOSI COMPLIES, THE WHITE HOUSE WILL COMPLIES, THE WHITE HOUSE WILL SHOW UP WITH A CARTON FULL OF SHOW UP WITH A CARTON FULL OF PAPER. PAPER.>>NO, THAT ASSUMES SPEAKER>>NO, THAT ASSUMES SPEAKER PELOSI WOULD ACTUALLY FALL FOR PELOSI WOULD ACTUALLY FALL FOR THE TRAP. THE TRAP. ANYONE WHO THINKS SPEAKER ANYONE WHO THINKS SPEAKER EMPLOYEELYPELOSI EMPLOYEELYPELOSI IS GOING TO GIVE WHATEVER LETTER IS GOING TO GIVE WHATEVER LETTER COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ANY COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ANY CREED CREED CREDENCE HAS NOT BEEN PAYING CREDENCE HAS NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION. ATTENTION. SHE TAKES THAT ROLE EXTREMELY SHE TAKES THAT ROLE EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY. SERIOUSLY. HER SOMBER TONE IS NOT ONE HER SOMBER TONE IS NOT ONE AFFECT. AFFECT. IT IS REAL. IT IS REAL. HER DUTY IS TO UPHOLD AND HER DUTY IS TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION I DON’T PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION I DON’T HAVE THE UNITED STATES. OF THE HAVE THE UNITED STATES. OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. THE WHITE HOUSE CAN DO ANYTHING THE WHITE HOUSE CAN DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THIS INQUIRY TO WHAT OR TO KEEP THIS INQUIRY TO WHAT OR A FLAT OUT IMPEACHMENT VOTE FROM

10 Top Democrats Participate In Heated Third Debate | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC


YORK. IT HAS BEEN A LONG WEEK. IT HAS BEEN A LONG WEEK. HELLO EVERYBODY, IT IS FRIDAY, HELLO EVERYBODY, IT IS FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 13th, COMING UP THIS SEPTEMBER 13th, COMING UP THIS HOUR ON “VELSHI & RUHLE,” WHAT’S HOUR ON “VELSHI & RUHLE,” WHAT’S NEXT TO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE NEXT TO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE AFTER LAST NIGHT’S BIG DEBATE. AFTER LAST NIGHT’S BIG DEBATE. WE HAVE THE STRONGEST MOMENTS WE HAVE THE STRONGEST MOMENTS AND THE BIGGEST ISSUES ANDPLUS, AND THE BIGGEST ISSUES ANDPLUS, TRILLION WITH A “T” DEFICIT. TRILLION WITH A “T” DEFICIT. WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOU AND YOUR WHAT IT MEANS FOR YOU AND YOUR MONEY. MONEY. THE BAHAMAS NOW BRACING FOR THE BAHAMAS NOW BRACING FOR ANOTHER MAJOR STORM. ANOTHER MAJOR STORM. WE’LL LOOK AT WHAT THE ISLANDS WE’LL LOOK AT WHAT THE ISLANDS CAN EXPECT JUST AFTER HURRICANE CAN EXPECT JUST AFTER HURRICANE DORIAN DEVASTATED THE COUNTRY. DORIAN DEVASTATED THE COUNTRY. WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS ONE, TOO. THIS ONE, TOO. WE GOT TO TALK TO THE DEMOCRATIC WE GOT TO TALK TO THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BACK ON PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BACK ON THE TRAIL TODAY AFTER A NIGHT OF THE TRAIL TODAY AFTER A NIGHT OF DEBATE ARGUING AND ATTACKING. DEBATE ARGUING AND ATTACKING. THE TOP TEN POLLING CANDIDATES THE TOP TEN POLLING CANDIDATES TOOK THE STAGE TOGETHER FOR THE TOOK THE STAGE TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME. FIRST TIME. AT TIMES, THE DEBATE GOT AT TIMES, THE DEBATE GOT PERSONAL. PERSONAL. JOE BIDEN CAME READY TO FIGHT JOE BIDEN CAME READY TO FIGHT AND WAS OFTEN A TARGET OF HIS AND WAS OFTEN A TARGET OF HIS RIVALS’ ATTENTION. RIVALS’ ATTENTION. THE GROUP SPENT A LOT OF TIME THE GROUP SPENT A LOT OF TIME FOCUSING ON HEALTHCARE AND GUN FOCUSING ON HEALTHCARE AND GUN SAFETY LEGISLATION. SAFETY LEGISLATION.>>I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A>>I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A DEBATE ON HEALTHCARE. DEBATE ON HEALTHCARE. I SNOW THE SENATOR SAYS SHE’S I SNOW THE SENATOR SAYS SHE’S FOR BERNIE, I AM FOR BARACK. FOR BERNIE, I AM FOR BARACK. I THINK OBAMACARE WORKED. I THINK OBAMACARE WORKED.>>I NEVER MET ANYBODY WHO LIKES>>I NEVER MET ANYBODY WHO LIKES THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY. THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY.>>I WROTE THE DAMN BILL.>>I WROTE THE DAMN BILL. I INTEND TO ELIMINATE ALL OUT OF I INTEND TO ELIMINATE ALL OUT OF POCKET EXPENSES. POCKET EXPENSES. ? ? H H>>RACISM IN AMERICA IS>>RACISM IN AMERICA IS EPIDEMIC. EPIDEMIC.>>THEY SAY WELL, DO YOU THINK>>THEY SAY WELL, DO YOU THINK TRUMP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT TRUMP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAPPENED? HAPPENED? I SAID, WELL, HE DIDN’T PULL THE I SAID, WELL, HE DIDN’T PULL THE TRIGGER BUT HE’S CERTAINLY TRIGGER BUT HE’S CERTAINLY TWEETING THE AM MISSION.MUNITION TWEETING THE AM MISSION.MUNITION>>A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT CAN’T>>A SYSTEM RIGHT NOW THAT CAN’T TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE THREAT POST BY A TERRORIST, A THREAT POST BY A TERRORIST, A CRIMINAL AND A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL CRIMINAL AND A 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL IS NOT A SYSTEM. IS NOT A SYSTEM. THAT’S KEEPING US SAFER. THAT’S KEEPING US SAFER.>>MY FATHER GREW UP ON A PEANUT>>MY FATHER GREW UP ON A PEANUT FARM IN ASIA AND NOW HIS SON IS FARM IN ASIA AND NOW HIS SON IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THAT’S THE IMMIGRATION STORY THAT’S THE IMMIGRATION STORY THAT WE SHARE WITH THE AMERICAN THAT WE SHARE WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. PEOPLE.>>JOINING US NOW STEVE CORNACKI>>JOINING US NOW STEVE CORNACKI AND YAMICHE AND GARRET HAAKE. AND YAMICHE AND GARRET HAAKE.>>YAMICHE LET’S GO TO YOU>>YAMICHE LET’S GO TO YOU FIRST. FIRST. THEY MADE A T-SHIRT OUT OF IT. THEY MADE A T-SHIRT OUT OF IT. TOP LAWMAKERS ON BOTH SIDES OF TOP LAWMAKERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLE TODAY SAID THEY DID NOT THE ISLE TODAY SAID THEY DID NOT AGREE WITH THE PLAN. AGREE WITH THE PLAN. DOES BETO O’ROURKE’S RHETORIC DOES BETO O’ROURKE’S RHETORIC UNDERMINE THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS UNDERMINE THE BIPARTISAN EFFORTS TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN CONGRESS OR THE FACT THAT IT IS CONGRESS OR THE FACT THAT IT IS THIS GRAND IDEA THAT HE’S TAKING THIS GRAND IDEA THAT HE’S TAKING THIS THING ON, SOMETHING THAT THIS THING ON, SOMETHING THAT IMPACT AND AN INTEREST OF SO IMPACT AND AN INTEREST OF SO MANY AMERICANS IS THE GRAND IDEA MANY AMERICANS IS THE GRAND IDEA ENOUGH TO GET PEOPLE POSITIVE ENOUGH TO GET PEOPLE POSITIVE ABOUT THE SPIRIT HE WANTS TO ABOUT THE SPIRIT HE WANTS TO TAKE THINGS IN. TAKE THINGS IN.>>BETO O’ROURKE DECIDED OF THE>>BETO O’ROURKE DECIDED OF THE GUN LAWS AND THE TERRIBLE GUN LAWS AND THE TERRIBLE SHOOTING IN TEXAS THAT THOSE ARE SHOOTING IN TEXAS THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE THE ENGINE BEHIND HIS CAMPAIGN THE ENGINE BEHIND HIS CAMPAIGN AND OTHER THINGS HE’LL TALK AND OTHER THINGS HE’LL TALK ABOUT. ABOUT. BETO O’ROURKE AT THE BEGINNING BETO O’ROURKE AT THE BEGINNING HAD THIS PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE HAD THIS PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS RUNNING. RUNNING. NOW PEOPLE ARE IDENTIFYING NOW PEOPLE ARE IDENTIFYING YESTERDAY WHO WAS BROUGHT TO YESTERDAY WHO WAS BROUGHT TO TEARS AS HE WAS EXPLAINING HOW TEARS AS HE WAS EXPLAINING HOW PEOPLE ARE STILL RECOVERING IN PEOPLE ARE STILL RECOVERING IN THE HOSPITAL. THE HOSPITAL. HE’S TAKING THAT CLAIM OUT, I AM HE’S TAKING THAT CLAIM OUT, I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS IF I AM GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS IF I AM PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. GIVES DEMOCRATS A PLACE TO START GIVES DEMOCRATS A PLACE TO START ON. ON. WE’LL NOT BE AS FAR AS BETO WE’LL NOT BE AS FAR AS BETO O’ROURKE BUT WE’LL NOT BE WHERE O’ROURKE BUT WE’LL NOT BE WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS. THE PRESIDENT IS. THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN LOBBIED THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN LOBBIED VERY HARD BY GUN LOBBYISTS AND VERY HARD BY GUN LOBBYISTS AND THE NRA. THE NRA. HE’S BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH THE HE’S BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH THE CHIEF OF THE NRA, AND HE CHIEF OF THE NRA, AND HE ESSENTIALLY PULLED BACK FROM ANY ESSENTIALLY PULLED BACK FROM ANY SORT OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SORT OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND CHANGES OR ANY SORT OF ASSAULT CHANGES OR ANY SORT OF ASSAULT BANS AND ANY SORT OF THINGS THAT BANS AND ANY SORT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE SEE WITH A BILL WITH PEOPLE SEE WITH A BILL WITH TEETH IN IT AND FOCUS ON MENTAL TEETH IN IT AND FOCUS ON MENTAL HEALTH. HEALTH. I AM TOLD THAT HE’S GOING TO BE I AM TOLD THAT HE’S GOING TO BE RELEASING A PLAN AS LATE. RELEASING A PLAN AS LATE. THE PRESIDENT IS NOTE TAKING THE PRESIDENT IS NOTE TAKING CALLS FROM PEOPLE IMPACTED BY CALLS FROM PEOPLE IMPACTED BY MASS SHOOTINGS. MASS SHOOTINGS. MAYBE PULL SOMEONE TO THE MIDDLE MAYBE PULL SOMEONE TO THE MIDDLE SO THEY HAVE A NEGOTIATION SO THEY HAVE A NEGOTIATION POINT. POINT.>>WE HEARD FROM THE SENATORS>>WE HEARD FROM THE SENATORS THAT THEY DON’T SUPPORT WHAT THAT THEY DON’T SUPPORT WHAT BETO O’ROURKE WAS TRYING TO DO. BETO O’ROURKE WAS TRYING TO DO. THEY’RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEY’RE TRYING TO WORK WITH REPUBLICANS POTENTIALLY TO GET REPUBLICANS POTENTIALLY TO GET SOMETHING DONE. SOMETHING DONE. IF YOU ARE BETO O’ROURKE, IS IF YOU ARE BETO O’ROURKE, IS THIS IS ABOUT THE DIRECTION? THIS IS ABOUT THE DIRECTION? THINK ABOUT ALL THE REPUBLICANS THINK ABOUT ALL THE REPUBLICANS WHO KNEW WE WERE NOT GOING TO WHO KNEW WE WERE NOT GOING TO BUILD A WALL OR NOT HAVE MEXICO BUILD A WALL OR NOT HAVE MEXICO PAY FOR IT. PAY FOR IT. A LOT OF THE PRESIDENT DID WAS A LOT OF THE PRESIDENT DID WAS ABOUT SPIRIT AND DIRECTION. ABOUT SPIRIT AND DIRECTION. MANY AMERICANS WERE LIKE YEAH, MANY AMERICANS WERE LIKE YEAH, YEAH, A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS NOT YEAH, A LOT OF THAT STUFF IS NOT GOING TO GET DONE. GOING TO GET DONE. I LIKE WHAT HE’S THINKING. I LIKE WHAT HE’S THINKING. IS BETO O’ROURKE’S PLAN HERE IS BETO O’ROURKE’S PLAN HERE ABOUT THIS IS WHAT I AM THINKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT I AM THINKING AND THIS IS WHAT I CARE ABOUT AND THIS IS WHAT I CARE ABOUT WHEN IN PREVIOUS ELECTION, HE WHEN IN PREVIOUS ELECTION, HE DIDN’T SEE GUN CONTROL AT THE DIDN’T SEE GUN CONTROL AT THE TOP. TOP.>>HIS PLAN HERE IS ABOUT 2% OR>>HIS PLAN HERE IS ABOUT 2% OR 3% ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. 3% ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. I GOT A CROWDED COMPETITION AND I GOT A CROWDED COMPETITION AND I HAVE BEEN RUNNING BACKWARDS I HAVE BEEN RUNNING BACKWARDS SINCE I GOT IN THE RACE. SINCE I GOT IN THE RACE. HOW CAN I GET A FRESH LOOK FROM HOW CAN I GET A FRESH LOOK FROM DEMOCRATIC VOTERS? DEMOCRATIC VOTERS?>>IT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN BEEN>>IT REALLY HAS NOT BEEN BEEN TESTED BEFORE OF A PROPOSAL TESTED BEFORE OF A PROPOSAL QUITE LIKE THIS THAT HE SUSPECTS QUITE LIKE THIS THAT HE SUSPECTS AND THERE IS SOMETHING TO IT AND THERE IS SOMETHING TO IT THAT THERE IS AN ENERGY ON THE THAT THERE IS AN ENERGY ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. DEMOCRATIC SIDE. BUT, I THINK HONESTLY THE BUT, I THINK HONESTLY THE POLITICAL CALCULATION WHEN YOU POLITICAL CALCULATION WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING TWO3% OR 4% AT THE ARE RUNNING TWO3% OR 4% AT THE POLLS. POLLS. LET ME TRY THIS NOW AND SEE IF I LET ME TRY THIS NOW AND SEE IF I CAN GET TRACTION AND IF IT CAN GET TRACTION AND IF IT WORKS, I WILL WORRY OF THE WORKS, I WILL WORRY OF THE ELECTIONS LATER. ELECTIONS LATER.>>HE’S PULLING A 2% OR 3%.>>HE’S PULLING A 2% OR 3%. TEN PEOPLE WERE ON THAT STAGE TEN PEOPLE WERE ON THAT STAGE AND THE PERSON PERSON TALKING AND THE PERSON PERSON TALKING ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON. ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON. IS BETO O’ROURKE, A LOT OF IS BETO O’ROURKE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BUZZING BECAUSE TEXAS PEOPLE ARE BUZZING BECAUSE TEXAS STATE REPRESENTATIVE TWEETED AT STATE REPRESENTATIVE TWEETED AT BETO LAST NIGHT THAT “MY AR 15 BETO LAST NIGHT THAT “MY AR 15 IS RAETDEADY FOR YOU.” IS RAETDEADY FOR YOU.” IS THIS ABOUT BETO O’ROURKE IS THIS ABOUT BETO O’ROURKE SPLITTING THINGS OR ABOUT HIS SPLITTING THINGS OR ABOUT HIS POINT OF BETO O’ROURKE GETTING A POINT OF BETO O’ROURKE GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION TODAY. WHOLE LOT OF ATTENTION TODAY.>>Reporter: YOU ARE PROBABLY>>Reporter: YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT VOTING FOR THE CANDIDATE. NOT VOTING FOR THE CANDIDATE. I HAVE TO GO BACK ON THIS OF I HAVE TO GO BACK ON THIS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THIS QUESTION OF O’ROURKE’S THIS QUESTION OF O’ROURKE’S COMMENT AFFECTING THE SENATE, I COMMENT AFFECTING THE SENATE, I HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE SENATE FOR HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE SENATE FOR A WHILE. A WHILE. WHAT BIPARTISAN EFFORT? WHAT BIPARTISAN EFFORT? PAT TOMOMEY MAY NOT LIKE THIS PAT TOMOMEY MAY NOT LIKE THIS PLAN. PLAN. IT IS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT ALL IT IS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THIS IN CONTEXT IF YOUR OF THIS IN CONTEXT IF YOUR ARGUMENT AS PAT TOOMEY TWEETED ARGUMENT AS PAT TOOMEY TWEETED THAT BETO O’ROURKE’S COMMENT THAT BETO O’ROURKE’S COMMENT UNDO THE GOOD BIPARTISAN WORK UNDO THE GOOD BIPARTISAN WORK THAT’S BEING DONE ON THE SENATE, THAT’S BEING DONE ON THE SENATE, IF COMMENTS FROM A CANDIDATE IF COMMENTS FROM A CANDIDATE WHO’S POLLING AT 2% CAN UNDO THE WHO’S POLLING AT 2% CAN UNDO THE WORK OF THE U.S. SENATE AND A WORK OF THE U.S. SENATE AND A BIPARTISAN WAY THEN THE SYSTEM BIPARTISAN WAY THEN THE SYSTEM IS REALLY NOT WORKING. IS REALLY NOT WORKING. GUN RIGHT ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN GUN RIGHT ADVOCATES HAVE BEEN OUT SPOKEN ON THE ISSUE. OUT SPOKEN ON THE ISSUE. I SPENT SIX MONTHS ON THE ROAD I SPENT SIX MONTHS ON THE ROAD WHO ARE LITERALLY CHANTING DO WHO ARE LITERALLY CHANTING DO SOMETHING ON THIS ISSUE. SOMETHING ON THIS ISSUE. FROM MY REPORTING, WORK MAY HAVE FROM MY REPORTING, WORK MAY HAVE TAPPED INTO SOMETHING IS TAPPED INTO SOMETHING IS INCREDIBLE SENSE OF FRUSTRATION INCREDIBLE SENSE OF FRUSTRATION FROM DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT THIS FROM DEMOCRATIC VOTERS THAT THIS ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN HANDLED NOT ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN HANDLED NOT SINCE EL PASO OR ANY OF THESE SINCE EL PASO OR ANY OF THESE SHOOTINGS CAME IN THE SHOOTINGS CAME IN THE CONSCIOUSNESS. CONSCIOUSNESS. IT JUST SAYS WE ARE GOING TO GET IT JUST SAYS WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS DONE, THIS IS SOMETHING THIS DONE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HAVE BEEN THAT DEMOCRATIC VOTERS HAVE BEEN WANTING TO HEAR AND YOU SAW THAT WANTING TO HEAR AND YOU SAW THAT LAST NIGHT. LAST NIGHT.>>GARRET HAAKE.>>GARRET HAAKE. YOU BETTER HOPE YOU STAY ON THE YOU BETTER HOPE YOU STAY ON THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ROAD BECAUSE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO ASK PEOPLE ON THE HILL THAT I TO ASK PEOPLE ON THE HILL THAT I THINK THEY DON’T WANT TO ANSWER. THINK THEY DON’T WANT TO ANSWER. STEVE, LET’S TALK MODERATE STEVE, LET’S TALK MODERATE VERSES PROGRESSIVES SPECIFICALLY VERSES PROGRESSIVES SPECIFICALLY ON HEALTHCARE. ON HEALTHCARE. JOE BIDEN DID NOT JUST OFFEND JOE BIDEN DID NOT JUST OFFEND HIS POSITION BUT SWINGING SAYING HIS POSITION BUT SWINGING SAYING TO ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE TO ELIZABETH WARREN AND BERNIE SANDERS, THAT’S ALL WELL AND SANDERS, THAT’S ALL WELL AND GOOD FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL, A, GOOD FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL, A, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR IT AND B, EXPLAIN THE SPECIFICS OF AND B, EXPLAIN THE SPECIFICS OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY WHO DON’T LOVE THEIR HEALTHCARE WHO DON’T LOVE THEIR HEALTHCARE BUT LOVE HAVING IT. BUT LOVE HAVING IT.>>THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE>>THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE DEBATE. DEBATE. THERE IS SO MUCH ANTICIPATION THERE IS SO MUCH ANTICIPATION AND FINALLY YOU GOT WARREN AND AND FINALLY YOU GOT WARREN AND BIDE DEN ON THE SAME STAGE. BIDE DEN ON THE SAME STAGE. THIS WAS THE CLOSEST THING THAT THIS WAS THE CLOSEST THING THAT YOU HAVE OF THE EXCHANGE OVER YOU HAVE OF THE EXCHANGE OVER HEALTHCARE. HEALTHCARE. I THOUGHT BIDEN HELD UP WELL AND I THOUGHT BIDEN HELD UP WELL AND RELATIVE TO THE EXPECTATIONS RELATIVE TO THE EXPECTATIONS WERE. WERE. SOMETHING INTERESTING HAPPEN SOMETHING INTERESTING HAPPEN WITH HOW WARREN HANDLED THIS. WITH HOW WARREN HANDLED THIS. WARREN WAS ASKED TWICE BY THE WARREN WAS ASKED TWICE BY THE MODERATOR, IT IS NOT THE FIRST MODERATOR, IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME. TIME. OVERALL YOUR PLAN HERE, YOUR OVERALL YOUR PLAN HERE, YOUR MEDICARE FOR ALL, WILL THAT MEDICARE FOR ALL, WILL THAT REQUIRE TAX INCREASES FOR THE REQUIRE TAX INCREASES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS? MIDDLE CLASS? THE ANSWER SHE GOES TO IS SHE THE ANSWER SHE GOES TO IS SHE DOES NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT DOES NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. QUESTION. SHE SAYS OVERALL WHEN YOU FACTOR SHE SAYS OVERALL WHEN YOU FACTOR EVERYTHING IN, THIS WILL BE A EVERYTHING IN, THIS WILL BE A NET SAVINGS FOR THE MIDDLE NET SAVINGS FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. CLASS. THE QUESTION THERE IS AS PART OF THE QUESTION THERE IS AS PART OF THAT FORMULA, WILL THEREIR TAXES THAT FORMULA, WILL THEREIR TAXES GO UP. GO UP. IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE PART IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE PART OF WHAT SHE HAS TAPPED INTO RISE OF WHAT SHE HAS TAPPED INTO RISE IN THE POLLS IS A SENSE OF IN THE POLLS IS A SENSE OF AUTHENTICITY. AUTHENTICITY. SHE DIRECTLY ANSWERS A NUMBER OF SHE DIRECTLY ANSWERS A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS IN THE EDEBATE. QUESTIONS IN THE EDEBATE. TAXES WILL GO UP FOR THE MIDDLE TAXES WILL GO UP FOR THE MIDDLE CLASSES. CLASSES. SHE DOES NOT ANSWER IT AND FINDS SHE DOES NOT ANSWER IT AND FINDS WAY TO AVID IT. WAY TO AVID IT. YAMICHE, OVERALL OPPORTUNITY YAMICHE, OVERALL OPPORTUNITY EQUALITY, ONE OF THE THINGS MOST EQUALITY, ONE OF THE THINGS MOST SIGNIFICANT IS THE LOCATION OF SIGNIFICANT IS THE LOCATION OF LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE AT A BLACK LAST NIGHT’S DEBATE AT A BLACK UNIVERSITY AND KAMALA HARRIS UNIVERSITY AND KAMALA HARRIS ATTENDED ONE. ATTENDED ONE. IN HER PLANS, SHE’S CALLING FOR IN HER PLANS, SHE’S CALLING FOR A $2 TRILLION INVESTMENT INTO A $2 TRILLION INVESTMENT INTO HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES. UNIVERSITIES. WHAT IS THE HISTORICAL WHAT IS THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS? SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS?>>KAMALA HARRIS PUT HERSELF IN>>KAMALA HARRIS PUT HERSELF IN THE CENTER OF THAT. THE CENTER OF THAT. SHE SAID THAT BLACK CHILDREN IF SHE SAID THAT BLACK CHILDREN IF THEY HAD TEACHERS THAT THEY HAD TEACHERS THAT ESPECIALLY IN THEIR GRADE SCHOOL ESPECIALLY IN THEIR GRADE SCHOOL YEARS THAT ARE ALSO YEARS THAT ARE ALSO AFRICAN-AMERICAN, THEY ARE MORE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO GO TO COLLEGE. LIKELY TO GO TO COLLEGE. WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS THESE WHAT SHE WAS SAYING WAS THESE ARE THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE ARE THE SCHOOLS THAT ARE PRODUCING A LOT OF THOSE PRODUCING A LOT OF THOSE AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEACHERS AND WE AFRICAN-AMERICAN TEACHERS AND WE NEED TO BE INVESTING IN THOSE NEED TO BE INVESTING IN THOSE SCHOOLS. SCHOOLS. HE WAS NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DO HE WAS NOT SAYING WE SHOULD DO THIS BECAUSE SHE WAS NICE OR I THIS BECAUSE SHE WAS NICE OR I REALLY LIKE THIS SCHOOL. REALLY LIKE THIS SCHOOL. THIS IS GOING TO MAKE OUR THIS IS GOING TO MAKE OUR COUNTRY BETTER AND COUNTRY BETTER AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER WAY OF GOING TO HAVE HIGHER WAY OF BEING ABLE TO REALLY BE BEING ABLE TO REALLY BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN THE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS IN THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES. SO ESSENTIALLY SHE WAS NOT SO ESSENTIALLY SHE WAS NOT SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE A SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE A GIVEAWAY. GIVEAWAY. WHEN I TALK TO THE PRESIDENT, WHEN I TALK TO THE PRESIDENT, SOME OF THEM FRUSTRATED BY THE SOME OF THEM FRUSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN SAYING A LOT ABOUT HBU BUT NOT SAYING A LOT ABOUT HBU BUT NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN SCHOOL. HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN SCHOOL. THEY WANT PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEY WANT PEOPLE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ROLE THAT HBUS ARE PLAYING THE ROLE THAT HBUS ARE PLAYING AND NOT JUST SAY THESE ARE NICE AND NOT JUST SAY THESE ARE NICE SCHOOLS FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN SCHOOLS FOR AFRICAN-AMERICAN KIDS. KIDS.>>JOE BIDEN WAS ASKED WHAT>>JOE BIDEN WAS ASKED WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES AMERICANS NEED RESPONSIBILITIES AMERICANS NEED TO TAKE TO REPAIR THE LEGACY OF TO TAKE TO REPAIR THE LEGACY OF SLAVERY TO THIS COUNTRY. SLAVERY TO THIS COUNTRY. I WANT TO SHARE APART OF HIS I WANT TO SHARE APART OF HIS ANSWER. ANSWER.>>MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE CHILD>>MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE CHILD DOES HAVE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE DOES HAVE THREE OR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OLD GO TO SCHOOL, SCHOOL, YEARS OLD GO TO SCHOOL, SCHOOL, NOT DAYCARE. NOT DAYCARE. WE BRING SOCIAL MAKERS TO BRING WE BRING SOCIAL MAKERS TO BRING THEM HOME TO HELP THEM DEAL WITH THEM HOME TO HELP THEM DEAL WITH HOW TO RAISE CHILDREN. HOW TO RAISE CHILDREN. TA TA THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO. THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO. PLAY THE VIDEO. PLAY THE VIDEO.>>HERE WHAT’S STANDING OUT.>>HERE WHAT’S STANDING OUT. THE RECORD PLAYER. THE RECORD PLAYER.>>TO WIN THIS NEXT ELECTION SO>>TO WIN THIS NEXT ELECTION SO MUCH OF IT HAS TO DO WITH MUCH OF IT HAS TO DO WITH INSPIRING PEOPLE TO GET OUT INSPIRING PEOPLE TO GET OUT THERE AND VOTE, VOTER TURN OUT. THERE AND VOTE, VOTER TURN OUT. THAT ANSWER FROM JOE BIDEN THAT ANSWER FROM JOE BIDEN TALKING ABOUT THE RECORD PLAYER TALKING ABOUT THE RECORD PLAYER EVEN IF HE’S DOING WELL AMONG EVEN IF HE’S DOING WELL AMONG AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS. WHAT DOES THAT DO? WHAT DOES THAT DO?>>IN SOME WAY I AM TAKING>>IN SOME WAY I AM TAKING ISSUES ISSUES ISSUES. ISSUES.>>IT IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT>>IT IS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE’S GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE HE’S GOING TO BE ATTENDING THE MASS INCARCERATION AND USED TO MASS INCARCERATION AND USED TO CALL THE 1994 BIDEN BILL. CALL THE 1994 BIDEN BILL. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE — WHO’S I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE — WHO’S GOING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM THAT GOING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM THAT ACTUALLY BUILD. ACTUALLY BUILD. JULIAN CASTRO TALKS ABOUT WHAT JULIAN CASTRO TALKS ABOUT WHAT JOE BIDEN MAY NOT REMEMBERS. JOE BIDEN MAY NOT REMEMBERS. WHAT HE’S GETTING WAS THIS IDEA WHAT HE’S GETTING WAS THIS IDEA THAT THERE IS A GENERATION OF THAT THERE IS A GENERATION OF DEMOCRATS THAT ARE LOOKING. DEMOCRATS THAT ARE LOOKING. CAN JOE BIDEN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. CAN JOE BIDEN BEAT DONALD TRUMP. CORY BOOKER ALSO HAD A QUESTION CORY BOOKER ALSO HAD A QUESTION OF JOE BIDEN’S DEBATE SAYING OF JOE BIDEN’S DEBATE SAYING SOME PEOPLE IF HE’S GOING TO SOME PEOPLE IF HE’S GOING TO FUMBLE THE BALL IF HE WINS THE FUMBLE THE BALL IF HE WINS THE PRIMARY. PRIMARY. I AM NOT SURE OF HIM TALKING I AM NOT SURE OF HIM TALKING ABOUT A RECORD PLAYER IN ABOUT A RECORD PLAYER IN PARTICULAR. PARTICULAR. JOE BIDEN HAS ISSUES LONG BEFORE JOE BIDEN HAS ISSUES LONG BEFORE HE GOT IN THE RACE. HE GOT IN THE RACE.>>I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF>>I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF MORE STAND OUT MOMENTS. MORE STAND OUT MOMENTS. ONE BIG MOMENT WAS JULIAN CASTRO ONE BIG MOMENT WAS JULIAN CASTRO SLAMMING ON JOE BIDEN ON SLAMMING ON JOE BIDEN ON HEALTHCARE. HEALTHCARE. HE SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT BIDEN HAD HE SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT BIDEN HAD AN AGE ISSUE. AN AGE ISSUE.>>YOU SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO THEY>>YOU SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUY IN. WOULD HAVE TO BUY IN.>>ARE YOU FORGETTING WHAT YOU>>ARE YOU FORGETTING WHAT YOU SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO? SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO?>>ARE YOU FORGOTETTING WHAT YOU>>ARE YOU FORGOTETTING WHAT YOU SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO? SAID TWO-MINUTES AGO? YOU SAID THEY HAD TO BUY IN. YOU SAID THEY HAD TO BUY IN. YOU ARE FORGETTING THAT. YOU ARE FORGETTING THAT.>>I AM SAYING YOUR GRANDMOTHER>>I AM SAYING YOUR GRANDMOTHER WHO HAS NO MONEY. WHO HAS NO MONEY.>>YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY>>YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED. ENROLLED.>>HERE IS THE THING.>>HERE IS THE THING. CASTRO WAS RIGHT THAT BIDEN HAD CASTRO WAS RIGHT THAT BIDEN HAD SAID EARLIER THAT PEOPLE WOULD SAID EARLIER THAT PEOPLE WOULD BUY INTO MEDICARE LIKE PLANS BUT BUY INTO MEDICARE LIKE PLANS BUT FOR FACT’S SAKE, THERE IS A LOT FOR FACT’S SAKE, THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THAT. MORE TO THAT. WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT BUY INS, WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT BUY INS, BIDEN WAS DISCUSSING PEOPLE WHO BIDEN WAS DISCUSSING PEOPLE WHO LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PRESUMABLY LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PRESUMABLY THEIR EMPLOYER HEALTHCARE. THEIR EMPLOYER HEALTHCARE. THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO BUY INTO MEDICARE OPTION TO BUY INTO MEDICARE PLAN. PLAN. WHAT HE WAS ARGUING WITH CASTRO WHAT HE WAS ARGUING WITH CASTRO ABOUT WAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD NOT ABOUT WAS WHERE PEOPLE COULD NOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE COVERAGE. AFFORD HEALTHCARE COVERAGE. ON A BIDEN’S PLAN IT WOULD BE ON A BIDEN’S PLAN IT WOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED. AUTOMATICALLY ENROLLED.>>HOW IS THAT TAKEN?>>HOW IS THAT TAKEN? YOU SORT OF HEARD GASP IN THE YOU SORT OF HEARD GASP IN THE ROOM AND REACTION THROUGHOUT THE ROOM AND REACTION THROUGHOUT THE DAY WAS NOT AGAINST JOE BIDEN, DAY WAS NOT AGAINST JOE BIDEN, IT WAS AGAINST HOW JULIAN CASTRO IT WAS AGAINST HOW JULIAN CASTRO WENT AFTER HIM. WENT AFTER HIM.>>THE IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS>>THE IMMEDIATE REACTION WAS JULIAN OUT KICK HIS COVERAGE, HE JULIAN OUT KICK HIS COVERAGE, HE WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR GOING WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR GOING AFTER JOE BIDEN THERE. AFTER JOE BIDEN THERE. THAT’S THE RISK WHEN YOU ATTACK THAT’S THE RISK WHEN YOU ATTACK A POPULAR POLITICIAN. A POPULAR POLITICIAN. HE’S BY EVERY POLL OF THE MOST HE’S BY EVERY POLL OF THE MOST POPULAR DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR POPULAR DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW. PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW. IF YOU ARE GOING AFTER HIM, YOU IF YOU ARE GOING AFTER HIM, YOU NEED TO DO IT CAREFULLY. NEED TO DO IT CAREFULLY. IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU ARE TRYING IT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO SCORE POINTS OR DOING IT IN A TO SCORE POINTS OR DOING IT IN A WAY WHERE SOMEBODY PERCEIVE IT WAY WHERE SOMEBODY PERCEIVE IT BEING MEAN SPIRIT, IT COULD HURT BEING MEAN SPIRIT, IT COULD HURT YOU. YOU. CASTRO IS NOT BACKING DOWN. CASTRO IS NOT BACKING DOWN. HE’S E-MAILING HIS SUPPORTERS HE’S E-MAILING HIS SUPPORTERS TODAY. TODAY. I AM GOING TO FACT-CHECK AND BE I AM GOING TO FACT-CHECK AND BE AGGRESSIVE AND SO WILL DONALD AGGRESSIVE AND SO WILL DONALD TRUMP AND I AM READY TO TAKE HIM TRUMP AND I AM READY TO TAKE HIM ON. ON.>>FACT-CHECKING AND BEING>>FACT-CHECKING AND BEING AGGRESSIVE, WE JUST FACT CHECKED AGGRESSIVE, WE JUST FACT CHECKED IT. IT. CASTRO WAS WRONG. CASTRO WAS WRONG.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. LOISVILLE LOISVILLE ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THAT’S WHY THIS IS A RISKY THAT’S WHY THIS IS A RISKY STRATEGY FOR HIM. STRATEGY FOR HIM. HE QUALIFIED LATE IN THE GAME OF HE QUALIFIED LATE IN THE GAME OF THE DEBATE. THE DEBATE. HIS LAST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE HIS LAST COUPLE MONTHS OF THE CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN LIKE IT. CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN LIKE IT. HE GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION AND HE GETS A LOT OF ATTENTION AND PERFORMS WELL OR AGGRESSIVELY PERFORMS WELL OR AGGRESSIVELY AND INSERTS HIMSELF IN THE AND INSERTS HIMSELF IN THE CONVERSATION. CONVERSATION. HE HAS HAD A HARD TIME HE HAS HAD A HARD TIME MAINTAINING ANY KIND OF MOMENTUM MAINTAINING ANY KIND OF MOMENTUM FROM DEBATE TO DEBATE. FROM DEBATE TO DEBATE. YOU CAN SEE THIS AS AN YOU CAN SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO GENERATE OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO GENERATE SOME OF THAT MOMENTUM AND BY ALL SOME OF THAT MOMENTUM AND BY ALL ACCOUNTS FROM THE SORT OF SNAP ACCOUNTS FROM THE SORT OF SNAP REACTION THAT WE ARE SEEING REACTION THAT WE ARE SEEING TODAY, IT DID NOT WORK. TODAY, IT DID NOT WORK. WE’LL GET A BETTER SENSE WHEN WE’LL GET A BETTER SENSE WHEN HIS CAMPAIGN REPORTS IS MORE HIS CAMPAIGN REPORTS IS MORE FUND RAISING AND NEXT ROUND OF FUND RAISING AND NEXT ROUND OF POLLING. POLLING. PERHAPS THERE IS MORE OF AN PERHAPS THERE IS MORE OF AN APPETITE AMONG DEMOCRATIC APPETITE AMONG DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. VOTERS.>>IT IS A HISTORY LESSON.>>IT IS A HISTORY LESSON. RIGHT AFTER THAT MOMENT, PETE RIGHT AFTER THAT MOMENT, PETE BUTTIGIEG SEEMED TO SORT OF BUTTIGIEG SEEMED TO SORT OF CHECK CASTRO SAYING WE ARE ALL CHECK CASTRO SAYING WE ARE ALL ROLLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. ROLLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. AND AND>>KEEP IN MIND THE CALENDAR.>>KEEP IN MIND THE CALENDAR. THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER VERSION OF THIS IS THE SEPTEMBER VERSION OF THE DEBATE. THE DEBATE. A LOT OF THESE CANDIDATES STILL A LOT OF THESE CANDIDATES STILL TRYING TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TRYING TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND GENERATE TRACKS THAT WAY. AND GENERATE TRACKS THAT WAY. WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO DECEMBER WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND EVE OF IOWA AND AND JANUARY AND EVE OF IOWA AND EVE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. EVE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. THAT’S WHEN THESE CANDIDATES THAT’S WHEN THESE CANDIDATES WILL SEE THE URGENCY. WILL SEE THE URGENCY. THAT’S WHEN HEY, IF YOU ARE THAT’S WHEN HEY, IF YOU ARE FIVERFIVE FIVERFIVE POINTS BEHIND AND HAVE NO TIME

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about ELIQUIS. RUHLE.” RUHLE.” FORMER WHITE HOUSE FORMER WHITE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR ANTHONY ADMINISTRATION DIRECTOR ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI HAS PENNED A NEW SCARAMUCCI HAS PENNED A NEW ARTICLE CALLED I WAS WRONG ABOUT ARTICLE CALLED I WAS WRONG ABOUT TRUMP. TRUMP. HERE IS WHY. HERE IS WHY. HE EXPLAINS HIS BREAK WITH THE HE EXPLAINS HIS BREAK WITH THE PRESIDENT AND EXPLAINS HIS PRESIDENT AND EXPLAINS HIS PREVIOUS SUPPORT. PREVIOUS SUPPORT.>>HE CONCLUDES WITH A CALL TO>>HE CONCLUDES WITH A CALL TO ACTION FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE ACTION FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL AISLE WRITING THIS. POLITICAL AISLE WRITING THIS. I CHALLENGE MY FELLOW I CHALLENGE MY FELLOW REPUBLICANS TO SUMMON THE NERVE REPUBLICANS TO SUMMON THE NERVE TO SPEAK OUT ON THE RECORD TO SPEAK OUT ON THE RECORD AGAINST TRUMP. AGAINST TRUMP. DEFY THE CULTURE OF FEAR HE HAS DEFY THE CULTURE OF FEAR HE HAS CREATED AND GO PUBLIC WITH THE CREATED AND GO PUBLIC WITH THE CONCERNS YOU READILY EXPRESS IN CONCERNS YOU READILY EXPRESS IN PRIVATE. PRIVATE. TO MEMBERS OF THE SO-CALLED TO MEMBERS OF THE SO-CALLED RESISTANCE, PLEASE LEAVE ROOM ON RESISTANCE, PLEASE LEAVE ROOM ON THE OFF RAMP FOR THOSE WILLING THE OFF RAMP FOR THOSE WILLING TO ADMIT THEIR MISTAKES. TO ADMIT THEIR MISTAKES. JOINING US NOW FORMER WHITE JOINING US NOW FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI THE AUTHOR ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI THE AUTHOR OF “TRUMP, THE BLUE COLLAR OF “TRUMP, THE BLUE COLLAR PRESIDENT.” PRESIDENT.” TELL US, WHAT DO THEY TELL YOU? TELL US, WHAT DO THEY TELL YOU?>>THANKFULLY I AM THE ONLY>>THANKFULLY I AM THE ONLY PERSON THAT BOUGHT THE BOOK. PERSON THAT BOUGHT THE BOOK. THEY’RE IN THE INCINERATOR RIGHT THEY’RE IN THE INCINERATOR RIGHT NOW. NOW. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.>>YOU SAID ALL THE THINGS THAT>>YOU SAID ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY IN PRIVATE. YOU SAY IN PRIVATE. WHAT DO FELLOW REPUBLICANS OR WHAT DO FELLOW REPUBLICANS OR MEMBERS OF THIS WHITE HOUSE SAY MEMBERS OF THIS WHITE HOUSE SAY IN PRIVATE? IN PRIVATE?>>I THINK THEY ARE SHARING THE>>I THINK THEY ARE SHARING THE SAME THING I’M SHARING IN SAME THING I’M SHARING IN PUBLIC, THAT HE IS MANIFESTLY PUBLIC, THAT HE IS MANIFESTLY UNHINGED. UNHINGED. HE IS A RIDICULOUS BULLY. HE IS A RIDICULOUS BULLY. HE HAS NO MANAGERIAL STYLE OR HE HAS NO MANAGERIAL STYLE OR STRUCTURE. STRUCTURE. HE DOESN’T LISTEN OR TAKE HE DOESN’T LISTEN OR TAKE COUNSEL FROM ANYBODY. COUNSEL FROM ANYBODY.>>WHAT’S NEW ABOUT THAT?>>WHAT’S NEW ABOUT THAT?>>WELL, LIKE I SAID IN THE>>WELL, LIKE I SAID IN THE ARTICLE, THERE’S NOTHING NEW ARTICLE, THERE’S NOTHING NEW ABOUT IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT’S ABOUT IT BUT IN MY OPINION IT’S GETTING WORSE. GETTING WORSE. AND SOMEBODY ONCE SAID TO ME, AND SOMEBODY ONCE SAID TO ME, WHAT’S THE RED LINE? WHAT’S THE RED LINE? I USED THE POTTER STEWART LINE. I USED THE POTTER STEWART LINE. IT’S LIKE PORNOGRAPHY. IT’S LIKE PORNOGRAPHY. YOU KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT. YOU KNOW IT WHEN YOU SEE IT. THE RED LINE FOR ME WAS THE THE RED LINE FOR ME WAS THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE FOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE FOUR CONGRESSWOMEN. CONGRESSWOMEN. I AM A REPUBLICAN. I AM A REPUBLICAN. I DON’T AGREE WITH ANY OF THE I DON’T AGREE WITH ANY OF THE FOUR CONGRESSWOMEN BUT I AGREE FOUR CONGRESSWOMEN BUT I AGREE WITH THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE WITH THEIR RIGHT TO HAVE STANDING TO STAY IN THE COUNTRY STANDING TO STAY IN THE COUNTRY AND BE CITIZENS. AND BE CITIZENS. ALI AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND ALI AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND BEING A PERSON OF COURAGE TO BEING A PERSON OF COURAGE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THAT SORT OF SPEAK OUT AGAINST THAT SORT OF RACIST NONSENSE. RACIST NONSENSE. IT IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. IT IS TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.>>THAT IS A QUESTION A LOT OF>>THAT IS A QUESTION A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE. PEOPLE HAVE. YOU’RE A SMART GUY AND EVERYBODY YOU’RE A SMART GUY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. KNOWS THAT. WHY DID IT TAKE YOU SO LONG TO WHY DID IT TAKE YOU SO LONG TO COME AROUND? COME AROUND?>>I’M A SMART GUY.>>I’M A SMART GUY. I THOUGHT I WAS A DOPE THIS I THOUGHT I WAS A DOPE THIS MORNING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL MORNING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL TWEET. TWEET.>>ACCORDING TO HIM.>>ACCORDING TO HIM. THIS GOT PERSONAL REAL FAST. THIS GOT PERSONAL REAL FAST.>>HE IS COMING AFTER A PRIVATE>>HE IS COMING AFTER A PRIVATE CITIZEN ON HIS TWITTER FEED. CITIZEN ON HIS TWITTER FEED. BUT THAT IS ALSO PROJECTING ON BUT THAT IS ALSO PROJECTING ON HIS PART. HIS PART. YOU CAN’T FIND A BIGGER — IT IS YOU CAN’T FIND A BIGGER — IT IS A FORM OF FACISM AS WE ALL KNOW. A FORM OF FACISM AS WE ALL KNOW.>>ARE YOU CONCERNED FOR YOUR>>ARE YOU CONCERNED FOR YOUR SAFETY THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE SAFETY THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS GOING AFTER UNITED STATES IS GOING AFTER YOU? YOU?>>I’M A BIG BOY.>>I’M A BIG BOY. I KNOW HOW TO HANDLE MYSELF. I KNOW HOW TO HANDLE MYSELF. I’M NOT CONCERNED FOR MY SAFETY. I’M NOT CONCERNED FOR MY SAFETY. I KNOW WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. I KNOW WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. HE IS TRYING TO STOKE THAT HE IS TRYING TO STOKE THAT DIVISION AND THAT HATRED AND DIVISION AND THAT HATRED AND CREATE A RISING OF A SPECTER OF CREATE A RISING OF A SPECTER OF ANGER AND ALSO, I DON’T EVEN ANGER AND ALSO, I DON’T EVEN TAKE IT PERSONALLY. TAKE IT PERSONALLY. HE IS DOING THAT BECAUSE HE HE IS DOING THAT BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM KNOWS THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM ABSOLUTELY HATE HIS GUTS BUT ABSOLUTELY HATE HIS GUTS BUT THEY’RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT. THEY’RE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT. YOU ARE VERY GOOD JOURNALISTS. YOU ARE VERY GOOD JOURNALISTS. YOU’VE HEARD THEM SAY IT TO YOU YOU’VE HEARD THEM SAY IT TO YOU PRIVATELY. PRIVATELY. I WOULD CAUTION JOURNALISTS NOW I WOULD CAUTION JOURNALISTS NOW TO SAY, HEY. TO SAY, HEY. YOU’RE SAYING IT TO ME YOU’RE SAYING IT TO ME PRIVATELY. PRIVATELY. WHY DON’T YOU SAVE THE COUNTRY WHY DON’T YOU SAVE THE COUNTRY AND BE MORE OPEN AND SAY IT IN AND BE MORE OPEN AND SAY IT IN PUBLIC. PUBLIC. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO BULLY YOU INTO SUBMISSION ON HIS BULLY YOU INTO SUBMISSION ON HIS TWITTER FEED AND CALL YOU NAMES? TWITTER FEED AND CALL YOU NAMES?>>WHAT ARE REPUBLICANS AFRAID>>WHAT ARE REPUBLICANS AFRAID OF? OF?>>THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT>>THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS. THINGS. NUMBER ONE HE IS A MANIACAL NUMBER ONE HE IS A MANIACAL BULLY FILLED WITH ANGER AND RAGE BULLY FILLED WITH ANGER AND RAGE AND OBVIOUSLY JUST LOOK AT THE AND OBVIOUSLY JUST LOOK AT THE FEED. FEED. HE IS COMPLETELY UNHINGED. HE IS COMPLETELY UNHINGED. THEY ARE AFRAID THEY COULD GET THEY ARE AFRAID THEY COULD GET PRIMARIED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE PRIMARIED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW HE HAS A PERSONALITY CULT HAS A PERSONALITY CULT STRANGLEHOLD LIKE A McCARTHY STRANGLEHOLD LIKE A McCARTHY FEVER GOING ON IN THE PARTY. FEVER GOING ON IN THE PARTY. THE THIRD THING I THINK THEY’RE THE THIRD THING I THINK THEY’RE AFRAID OF IS THAT THEY HAVE AFRAID OF IS THAT THEY HAVE GREAT UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE 2020 GREAT UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE 2020 ELECTION. ELECTION. SO IN THEIR CONSENSUS ABOUT A SO IN THEIR CONSENSUS ABOUT A MONTH AGO HE IS WINNING. MONTH AGO HE IS WINNING. HE’S THE PRESIDENT. HE’S THE PRESIDENT. THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. AND NOW THEY’RE LIKE, OKAY. AND NOW THEY’RE LIKE, OKAY. HE’S CRAZY BUT HE’S WINNING AND HE’S CRAZY BUT HE’S WINNING AND THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. THE ECONOMY IS BOOMING. NOW THEY’RE LIKE HE’S CRAZY AND NOW THEY’RE LIKE HE’S CRAZY AND THE ECONOMY IS HAVING A RATE OF THE ECONOMY IS HAVING A RATE OF CHANGE. CHANGE. YOU GUYS KNOW I’M RUNNING $10 YOU GUYS KNOW I’M RUNNING $10 BILLION AND I STUDY THE ECONOMY BILLION AND I STUDY THE ECONOMY VERY CAREFULLY. VERY CAREFULLY. I’M NOT SAYING IT IS GOING INTO I’M NOT SAYING IT IS GOING INTO RECESSION BY THE END OF 2020 BUT RECESSION BY THE END OF 2020 BUT IT IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN. IT IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN. YOU CAN TOTALLY FEEL IT BECAUSE YOU CAN TOTALLY FEEL IT BECAUSE OF ALL THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF ALL THE UNPREDICTABILITY ABOUT THE TRADE. ABOUT THE TRADE.>>YOU’VE BEEN ARGUING ALL ALONG>>YOU’VE BEEN ARGUING ALL ALONG LET TRUMP BE TRUMP. LET TRUMP BE TRUMP. PUT HIS RHETORIC ASIDE. PUT HIS RHETORIC ASIDE. YOUR BOOK WAS “THE BLUE COLLAR YOUR BOOK WAS “THE BLUE COLLAR PRESIDENT” AND YOU SAID RIGHT PRESIDENT” AND YOU SAID RIGHT HERE ON THIS SET, HE SPEAKS TO HERE ON THIS SET, HE SPEAKS TO BLUE COLLAR AMERICA. BLUE COLLAR AMERICA. HE SPEAKS TO THE — HE IS HE SPEAKS TO THE — HE IS BRINGING JOBS BACK. BRINGING JOBS BACK.>>THAT WAS HIS PROMISE.>>THAT WAS HIS PROMISE.>>HOLD ON.>>HOLD ON. THEN WE LOOK AT COMPANIES LIKE THEN WE LOOK AT COMPANIES LIKE U.S. STEEL HAVING LAY-OFFS THIS U.S. STEEL HAVING LAY-OFFS THIS WEEK. WEEK. WE KNOW THEIR SECOND QUARTER WE KNOW THEIR SECOND QUARTER EARNINGS, WE JUST HEARD, WERE EARNINGS, WE JUST HEARD, WERE ONE-THIRD OF WHAT THEY WERE LAST ONE-THIRD OF WHAT THEY WERE LAST YEAR. YEAR.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>WHAT DID WE OR — I’M GOING>>WHAT DID WE OR — I’M GOING TO SAY IT — YOU MISS? TO SAY IT — YOU MISS? YOU ARGUED THAT HE HAD THE RIGHT YOU ARGUED THAT HE HAD THE RIGHT ECONOMIC PLAN FOR THOSE EXACT ECONOMIC PLAN FOR THOSE EXACT VOTERS. VOTERS.>>BUT THAT IS MORE IN MY>>BUT THAT IS MORE IN MY OPINION AGAIN MORE RELATED TO OPINION AGAIN MORE RELATED TO WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT THE LACK WHAT IS GOING ON ABOUT THE LACK OF PREDICTABILITY IN TRADE AND OF PREDICTABILITY IN TRADE AND SO THE TARIFFS ARE DISRUPTING SO THE TARIFFS ARE DISRUPTING EVERYBODY’S SUPPLY CHAIN EVERYBODY’S SUPPLY CHAIN INCLUDING DOMESTIC INCLUDING DOMESTIC MANUFACTURING. MANUFACTURING. YOU COULD READ ABOUT THAT. YOU COULD READ ABOUT THAT. I COULD SEND YOU STUFF ABOUT I COULD SEND YOU STUFF ABOUT THAT TO EXPLAIN THE DOCTRINE OF THAT TO EXPLAIN THE DOCTRINE OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF MANIPULATE GO-TO TARIFF SYSTEM MANIPULATE GO-TO TARIFF SYSTEM THE WAY HE HAS AND MAKING IT SO THE WAY HE HAS AND MAKING IT SO UNPREDICTABLE. UNPREDICTABLE. AS AN EXAMPLE HE COULD HAVE SAID AS AN EXAMPLE HE COULD HAVE SAID THERE IS A DIFFERENTIAL. THERE IS A DIFFERENTIAL. WE’RE GOING 2% A QUARTER FOR TEN WE’RE GOING 2% A QUARTER FOR TEN QUARTERS, GET UP TO 20% BUT QUARTERS, GET UP TO 20% BUT EVERY BUSINESS LEADER LARGE AND EVERY BUSINESS LEADER LARGE AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN AMERICA YOU SMALL BUSINESSES IN AMERICA YOU HAVE TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET HAVE TWO AND A HALF YEARS TO GET YOURSELVES THERE. YOURSELVES THERE. BUT HE DIDN’T DO THAT BECAUSE HE BUT HE DIDN’T DO THAT BECAUSE HE IS A NARS CYST AND HAS TO DO IS A NARS CYST AND HAS TO DO EVERYTHING HIMSELF. EVERYTHING HIMSELF. HE THREW A BALL AND ROULETTE HE THREW A BALL AND ROULETTE WHEEL, TRUMP TOWER ROULETTE. WHEEL, TRUMP TOWER ROULETTE. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON. NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON. NOW U.S. STEEL HAS TO LAYOFF A NOW U.S. STEEL HAS TO LAYOFF A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE. COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE.>>HE IS NOT ALONE.>>HE IS NOT ALONE. PETER NAVARRO, LARRY KUDLOW — PETER NAVARRO, LARRY KUDLOW –>>JUST QUICKLY, YOU’RE ASKING>>JUST QUICKLY, YOU’RE ASKING ABOUT THE BOOK, IF YOU READ THE ABOUT THE BOOK, IF YOU READ THE BOOK IT’S ABOUT WHAT THE BOOK IT’S ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT’S PROMISE WAS. PRESIDENT’S PROMISE WAS. AND IF YOU READ THE BOOK IT WAS AND IF YOU READ THE BOOK IT WAS ABOUT WHAT THE VACUUM OF ABOUT WHAT THE VACUUM OF ADVOCACY WAS FOR BLUE COLLAR ADVOCACY WAS FOR BLUE COLLAR PEOPLE. PEOPLE. WHAT I SAID TO BILL MAHER ONE WHAT I SAID TO BILL MAHER ONE NIGHT ON HIS SHOW, IF YOU ARE NIGHT ON HIS SHOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY TO BEAT PRESIDENT GOING TO TRY TO BEAT PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU HAVE TO GO TO THOSE TRUMP YOU HAVE TO GO TO THOSE PEOPLE. PEOPLE. STOP CALLING THEM DEPLORABLE AND STOP CALLING THEM DEPLORABLE AND WHITE NATIONALIST AND THIS WHITE NATIONALIST AND THIS NONSENSE. NONSENSE. MEET WITH THEM IN THE AREAS THEY MEET WITH THEM IN THE AREAS THEY LIVE AND GIVE THEM HOPE AND GOOD LIVE AND GIVE THEM HOPE AND GOOD POLICIES TO RAISE LIVING POLICIES TO RAISE LIVING STANDARDS. STANDARDS.>>THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE>>THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO MIGHT EASILY HAVE VOTED FOR MIGHT EASILY HAVE VOTED FOR BERNIE SANDERS. BERNIE SANDERS.>>I WRITE THAT IN THE BOOK.>>I WRITE THAT IN THE BOOK. I WENT TO SEVERAL BERNIE SANDERS I WENT TO SEVERAL BERNIE SANDERS RALLIES AND SAW SORT OF THE SAME RALLIES AND SAW SORT OF THE SAME ANXIETY. ANXIETY. JUST TWO DIFFERENT POLICY PRAE JUST TWO DIFFERENT POLICY PRAE PRAE — PRESCRIPTIONS. PRAE — PRESCRIPTIONS.>>THERE IS NOTHING THAT DONALD>>THERE IS NOTHING THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE SINCE THE TRUMP HAS DONE SINCE THE BEGINNING INCLUDING THE TIME YOU BEGINNING INCLUDING THE TIME YOU WERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS WERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THAT EFFECTIVELY. EFFECTIVELY. HE IDENTIFIED IT AND GOT A LOT HE IDENTIFIED IT AND GOT A LOT OF VOTES FOR THAT. OF VOTES FOR THAT. HE TAPPED INTO A VEIN OF ANGER HE TAPPED INTO A VEIN OF ANGER AND ANXIETY AND FRUSTRATION, AND ANXIETY AND FRUSTRATION, MUCH OF WHICH IS VALID BUT HE MUCH OF WHICH IS VALID BUT HE HASN’T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT HASN’T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT AND THERE IS NO SENSE HE IS AND THERE IS NO SENSE HE IS GOING TO AT THIS POINT. GOING TO AT THIS POINT.>>I’M NOT TRUMP DERANGED BUT>>I’M NOT TRUMP DERANGED BUT TRUMP FATIGUED. TRUMP FATIGUED. THIS NONSENSE IS CRAZY, HURTING THIS NONSENSE IS CRAZY, HURTING OUR GLOBAL STANDING, IT’S CRAZY. OUR GLOBAL STANDING, IT’S CRAZY. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS HE DID THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS HE DID BY LOWERING THE TAXES THAT MADE BY LOWERING THE TAXES THAT MADE THE BUSINESSES MORE COMPETITIVE. THE BUSINESSES MORE COMPETITIVE. YOU HAD THE HIGHEST TAX CODE IN YOU HAD THE HIGHEST TAX CODE IN INDUSTRIAL AMERICA. INDUSTRIAL AMERICA. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS HE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS HE DID — DID –>>WE DIDN’T SEE THOSE COMPANIES>>WE DIDN’T SEE THOSE COMPANIES REINVEST. REINVEST.>>MOST OF THEM DID SHARE>>MOST OF THEM DID SHARE BUYBACKS. BUYBACKS.>>BUT IT MADE IT MORE>>BUT IT MADE IT MORE COMPETITIVE. COMPETITIVE. THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF HE DIDN’T DIAL UP THE TARIFFS AND DIDN’T DIAL UP THE TARIFFS AND CREATE THAT UNCERTAINTY THERE CREATE THAT UNCERTAINTY THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE CAPITAL INVESTMENT. CAPITAL INVESTMENT. THE NUMBERS IN THE FIRST AND THE NUMBERS IN THE FIRST AND SECOND QUARTER WERE A DISASTER SECOND QUARTER WERE A DISASTER AND WILL BE REALLY BAD IN THE AND WILL BE REALLY BAD IN THE THIRD QUARTER PRIMARILY BECAUSE THIRD QUARTER PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PREDICTABILITY. OF THE LACK OF PREDICTABILITY. HE WAS GOING TO THROW TARIFFS ON HE WAS GOING TO THROW TARIFFS ON MEXICO THEN HE PULLED IT BACK. MEXICO THEN HE PULLED IT BACK. THIS TARIFF, THAT TARIFF. THIS TARIFF, THAT TARIFF. IT’S GOING TO BE DECEMBER 1st IT’S GOING TO BE DECEMBER 1st NOW DECEMBER 15th. NOW DECEMBER 15th. THAT IS SLOWING DOWN CAPITAL THAT IS SLOWING DOWN CAPITAL INVESTMENT. INVESTMENT. SO THE COHESION OF THE PLAN AND SO THE COHESION OF THE PLAN AND THE LONG-TERM POLICY THINKING THE LONG-TERM POLICY THINKING BEHIND THE PLAN IS NON EXISTENT BEHIND THE PLAN IS NON EXISTENT BECAUSE HE DOESN’T LISTEN TO BECAUSE HE DOESN’T LISTEN TO ANYBODY. ANYBODY. HE’S GOT TO BE ABOUT HIMSELF. HE’S GOT TO BE ABOUT HIMSELF.>>IF YOU KNOW THE POLICIES THAT>>IF YOU KNOW THE POLICIES THAT WORK AND THE POLITICS THAT WORK AND THE POLITICS THAT WORKED ARE YOU THE PERSON TO WORKED ARE YOU THE PERSON TO PRIMARY THE PRESIDENT? PRIMARY THE PRESIDENT?>>I’M A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND SO>>I’M A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND SO I HAVE NO INTEREST. I HAVE NO INTEREST.>>HE WAS A PRIVATE CITIZEN>>HE WAS A PRIVATE CITIZEN BEFORE HE RAN. BEFORE HE RAN.>>I HAVE NO POLITICAL>>I HAVE NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE. EXPERIENCE.>>NEITHER DID HE.>>NEITHER DID HE.>>I UNDERSTAND THAT.>>I UNDERSTAND THAT. AM I THE PERSON? AM I THE PERSON? NO. NO. I DON’T THINK I AM THE PERSON. I DON’T THINK I AM THE PERSON. LET’S SEE, WE’RE ORGANIZING LET’S SEE, WE’RE ORGANIZING RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. WE’VE GOT A LOT OF TRACTION. WE’VE GOT A LOT OF TRACTION. IT IS BEFORE LABOR DAY. IT IS BEFORE LABOR DAY. LET’S MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT LET’S MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, EARLY — SOMETIME, YOU KNOW, EARLY –>>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN YOU’RE>>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN YOU’RE ORGANIZING? ORGANIZING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?>>THERE IS A VERY LARGE GROUP>>THERE IS A VERY LARGE GROUP OF REPUBLICANS SOME OF WHICH OF REPUBLICANS SOME OF WHICH FRANKLY HAVE LEFT THE PARTY BUT FRANKLY HAVE LEFT THE PARTY BUT PEOPLE, EX-CABINET OFFICIALS, PEOPLE, EX-CABINET OFFICIALS, MILITARY PEOPLE — MILITARY PEOPLE –>>WHO?>>WHO? WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES? WHAT ARE THEIR NAMES?>>SO I THINK BECAUSE OF>>SO I THINK BECAUSE OF PRESIDENTIAL BULLYING I THINK PRESIDENTIAL BULLYING I THINK MUCH EASIER TO GET THEM TO COME MUCH EASIER TO GET THEM TO COME OUT IN A GROUP. OUT IN A GROUP. I THINK IT IS VERY HARD TO TAKE I THINK IT IS VERY HARD TO TAKE INCOMING FROM THE PRESIDENT FOR INCOMING FROM THE PRESIDENT FOR MOST PEOPLE. MOST PEOPLE. ME I’M A NEW YORKER. ME I’M A NEW YORKER. I CAN PERSONALLY CARE. I CAN PERSONALLY CARE. IT DOESN’T MATTER. IT DOESN’T MATTER. KEEP FIRING IT IN. KEEP FIRING IT IN. RIDICULOUS. RIDICULOUS. FOR MOST PEOPLE THEY GET A FOR MOST PEOPLE THEY GET A LITTLE UNNERVED BY THAT. LITTLE UNNERVED BY THAT. LET’S DO IT IN A GROUP. LET’S DO IT IN A GROUP. THERE IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS. THERE IS SAFETY IN NUMBERS. I THINK PEOPLE WILL THEN BE ABLE I THINK PEOPLE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES VERY TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES VERY OPENLY AND VERY ELOQUENTLY AND OPENLY AND VERY ELOQUENTLY AND DISPASSIONATELY ABOUT WHAT IS DISPASSIONATELY ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON. REALLY GOING ON.>>SO ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO –>>SO ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO — WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? ARE THEY GOING TO FIELD A ARE THEY GOING TO FIELD A CANDIDATE? CANDIDATE?>>THAT’S THE GOAL.>>THAT’S THE GOAL. THE GOAL IS TO FIELD SOMEBODY THE GOAL IS TO FIELD SOMEBODY THAT’S EXPERIENCED. THAT’S EXPERIENCED. I’M CALLING ON 2024 CANDIDATES I’M CALLING ON 2024 CANDIDATES TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE BECAUSE YOU CAN’T WHISTLE PAST BECAUSE YOU CAN’T WHISTLE PAST THE GRAVE YARD OF PRESIDENT THE GRAVE YARD OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S INCOMPETENCE AND HIS TRUMP’S INCOMPETENCE AND HIS STYLE. STYLE. YOU CAN’T WHISTLE PAST THAT. YOU CAN’T WHISTLE PAST THAT. YOU CAN’T STAND THERE ON THE YOU CAN’T STAND THERE ON THE PLATFORM IN 2024 AND SAY OH, I PLATFORM IN 2024 AND SAY OH, I KNEW HE WAS CRAZY BUT I WAS KNEW HE WAS CRAZY BUT I WAS AFRAID OF A PRESIDENTIAL TWEET AFRAID OF A PRESIDENTIAL TWEET SO I DIDN’T SPEAK MY MIND. SO I DIDN’T SPEAK MY MIND. YOU SEE WHAT I’M SAYING? YOU SEE WHAT I’M SAYING? I’M HOPING ONE OR TWO OF THEM I’M HOPING ONE OR TWO OF THEM WILL BE RONALD REAGAN, STEP IN WILL BE RONALD REAGAN, STEP IN LIKE HE DID IN ’76 AND PRIMARY LIKE HE DID IN ’76 AND PRIMARY THIS GUY SO WE CAN RIGHT SIZE THIS GUY SO WE CAN RIGHT SIZE AND REENGINEER THE PARTY. AND REENGINEER THE PARTY. UNFORTUNATELY THE PARTY HAS UNFORTUNATELY THE PARTY HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A PERSONALITY CULT AND HE IS PERSONALITY CULT AND HE IS TRYING TO SILENCE EVERYBODY IN TRYING TO SILENCE EVERYBODY IN THE PARTY. THE PARTY. WHICH ALSO IS A BIG DANGER. WHICH ALSO IS A BIG DANGER.>>IS IT MARK SANFORD?>>IS IT MARK SANFORD?>>YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE ONE I>>YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE ONE I KNOW PERSONALLY IS GOVERNOR KNOW PERSONALLY IS GOVERNOR WELT. WELT. I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. HIM. I DON’T KNOW MARK SANFORD SO I I DON’T KNOW MARK SANFORD SO I DON’T WANT TO COMMENT ON HIM. DON’T WANT TO COMMENT ON HIM.>>IT IS NOT YOU.>>IT IS NOT YOU.>>YOU WANT TO RUN AS MY VICE>>YOU WANT TO RUN AS MY VICE PRESIDENT? PRESIDENT?>>NO.>>NO. BUT I’D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU’RE BUT I’D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU’RE GOING TO PRIMARY THE PRESIDENT. GOING TO PRIMARY THE PRESIDENT.>>IF YOU RUN AS MY VICE>>IF YOU RUN AS MY VICE PRESIDENT YOU AND I WILL TAKE A PRESIDENT YOU AND I WILL TAKE A SHOT. SHOT.>>NEGATIVE.>>NEGATIVE.>>MAKE YOU THE DIRECTOR.>>MAKE YOU THE DIRECTOR.>>WE JUST GOT THESE MUGS MADE.>>WE JUST GOT THESE MUGS MADE. WE CAN’T — WE CAN’T –>>MAKE VELSHI THE DIRECTOR OF>>MAKE VELSHI THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS. COMMUNICATIONS. HAVE A 12-DAY LIMIT MEANING, HAVE A 12-DAY LIMIT MEANING, FLOOR. FLOOR. SO YOU’LL BE ABLE TO BE — SO YOU’LL BE ABLE TO BE –>>AS LONG AS I LAST MORE THAN>>AS LONG AS I LAST MORE THAN 11 DAYS. 11 DAYS.>>THEN I’LL REVIEW EVERY DAY>>THEN I’LL REVIEW EVERY DAY AFTER THAT. AFTER THAT. YOU CAN BE OUR COMMUNICATIONS YOU CAN BE OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR.>>IT IS NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT>>IT IS NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT GOING AFTER YOU. GOING AFTER YOU. THE GOP CHAIRWOMAN ALSO GOING THE GOP CHAIRWOMAN ALSO GOING AFTER YOU. AFTER YOU.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>YOU’RE NOT JUST A TRUMP>>YOU’RE NOT JUST A TRUMP SUPPORTER. SUPPORTER. YOU ARE A BIG SUPPORTER OF MITT YOU ARE A BIG SUPPORTER OF MITT ROMNEY, JEB BUSH. ROMNEY, JEB BUSH.>>SCOTT WALKER, THE REPUBLICAN>>SCOTT WALKER, THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR’S ASSOCIATION. GOVERNOR’S ASSOCIATION. I’VE WRITTEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT I’VE WRITTEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHECKS. CHECKS.>>SO WHAT’S UP WITH YOU?>>SO WHAT’S UP WITH YOU?>>I SORT OF THINK THAT IS A>>I SORT OF THINK THAT IS A LITTLE UNFAIR. LITTLE UNFAIR. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE ON HER OBVIOUSLY PRESSURE ON HER OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE SHE HAS THE BECAUSE SHE HAS THE BULLY-IN-CHIEF DOING ALL THESE BULLY-IN-CHIEF DOING ALL THESE CRAZY THINGS. CRAZY THINGS. THE POOR WOMAN HAD TO DROP HER THE POOR WOMAN HAD TO DROP HER MAIDEN NAME ROMNEY FROM HER MAIDEN NAME ROMNEY FROM HER NAME. NAME.>>LEGALLY SHE HAD TO?>>LEGALLY SHE HAD TO?>>I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW. LOOK AT HER TWITTER FEED. LOOK AT HER TWITTER FEED.>>SHE CHOSE TO.>>SHE CHOSE TO.>>JUST TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON>>JUST TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON HER. HER. I FEEL BAD FOR HER ACTUALLY. I FEEL BAD FOR HER ACTUALLY. I’M NOT CRITICIZING HER JUST I’M NOT CRITICIZING HER JUST ASKING HER THE OPEN, ASKING HER THE OPEN, INTELLECTUAL QUESTION ABOUT INTELLECTUAL QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT’S THE RIGHT WHETHER OR NOT THAT’S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE PARTY. THING TO DO FOR THE PARTY. 2024 IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AROUND 2024 IS GOING TO BE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THE CORNER. HE CONTINUES ON THIS TRAJECTORY HE CONTINUES ON THIS TRAJECTORY OF FULL BLOWN CRAZY HE’LL CRASH OF FULL BLOWN CRAZY HE’LL CRASH AND BURN. AND BURN. THERE IS NO WAY REASONABLE MEN THERE IS NO WAY REASONABLE MEN AND WOMEN OF STANDING AND AND WOMEN OF STANDING AND STATESMEN IN OUR PARTY OR IN THE STATESMEN IN OUR PARTY OR IN THE COUNTRY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COUNTRY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TOLERATE THIS MUCH LONGER. TOLERATE THIS MUCH LONGER. I’M JUST CALLING ON HER, TAKE A I’M JUST CALLING ON HER, TAKE A STEP BACK. STEP BACK. PRESIDENT BUSH HAD A 91% PRESIDENT BUSH HAD A 91% APPROVAL RATING. APPROVAL RATING. PAT BUCHANAN PRIMARIED HIM AND PAT BUCHANAN PRIMARIED HIM AND THE WORLD CHANGED IN 1993. THE WORLD CHANGED IN 1993. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW AND YOU ARE ASSUMING WILL BE THE AND YOU ARE ASSUMING WILL BE THE STATUS QUO IN 15 MONTHS MAY NOT STATUS QUO IN 15 MONTHS MAY NOT BE. BE. OPEN THE TENT A LITTLE BIT. OPEN THE TENT A LITTLE BIT. RELAX ON YOUR TWITTER FEED THAT RELAX ON YOUR TWITTER FEED THAT HAPPENS TO BE @GOP AND EMBRACE HAPPENS TO BE @GOP AND EMBRACE THE OTHER INTELLECTUAL IDEAS IN THE OTHER INTELLECTUAL IDEAS IN THE PARTY THE PARTY OTHER INTELLECTUAL IDEAS BECAUSE

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THAT AUTHORITY OF THE CONGRESS. THANK YOU ABOUT . .>>WELL, I WANT TO BRING JOSH IN>>WELL, I WANT TO BRING JOSH IN FIRST. FIRST. WHAT DID YOU HEAR THERE? WHAT DID YOU HEAR THERE? BECAUSE FOR ME, A REGULAR BECAUSE FOR ME, A REGULAR CIVILIAN, I DIDN’T LEARN MUCH OF CIVILIAN, I DIDN’T LEARN MUCH OF ANYTHING. ANYTHING.>>NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A>>NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A BIT OF STONE WALLING GOING ON BIT OF STONE WALLING GOING ON AND SOME KEY ISSUES HERE AT AND SOME KEY ISSUES HERE AT PLAY, THE FIRST OF WHICH BEING PLAY, THE FIRST OF WHICH BEING THE IDEA OF THIS WHISTLE BLOWER THE IDEA OF THIS WHISTLE BLOWER WHO FOLLOWED THE PROPER WHO FOLLOWED THE PROPER PROCEDURES TO COME FORWARD WITH PROCEDURES TO COME FORWARD WITH SOME TYPE OF ALLEGATION. SOME TYPE OF ALLEGATION. WE DON’T THOUGH SGHAKTTS’T EXACT WE DON’T THOUGH SGHAKTTS’T EXACT BUT TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF BUT TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF POWER THAT NEED TO KNOW THE POWER THAT NEED TO KNOW THE INFORMATION. INFORMATION. IF THE WHITE HOUSE TRIES TO IF THE WHITE HOUSE TRIES TO OBSTRUCT THAT, MY FEAR IS THAT OBSTRUCT THAT, MY FEAR IS THAT IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO IS SENDING A MESSAGE TO POTENTIAL WHISTLE BLOWERS ACROSS POTENTIAL WHISTLE BLOWERS ACROSS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. AND MAN NEW OIG OIGUEW ASKED ABO AND MAN NEW OIG OIGUEW ASKED ABO QUESTION PRIVILEGE. QUESTION PRIVILEGE. AND THAT HAS TO BE SQUARED WITH AND THAT HAS TO BE SQUARED WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SAYS THE THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SAYS THE THREAT IS A KEY ISSUE. THREAT IS A KEY ISSUE. GRS GRS WE’VE LONG CHRONICLED THE WE’VE LONG CHRONICLED THE CLASHES BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT CLASHES BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. FIRST THE PRESIDENT SAYING THERE FIRST THE PRESIDENT SAYING THERE IS A DEEP STATE OUT THERE TO GET IS A DEEP STATE OUT THERE TO GET ME AND THIS IS THE OPPOSITE. ME AND THIS IS THE OPPOSITE. THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS CONCERNED THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS CONCERNED ABOUT AN ALLEGATION AND WANTS ABOUT AN ALLEGATION AND WANTS THAT TO BE PROVIDED TO THE THAT TO BE PROVIDED TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO KNOW IT. PEOPLE WHO NEED TO KNOW IT.>>AND LET ME PLAY DEVIL’S>>AND LET ME PLAY DEVIL’S ADVOCATE FOR A MOMENT. ADVOCATE FOR A MOMENT. NOT ALL WHISTLEBLOWER CLAIMS NOT ALL WHISTLEBLOWER CLAIMS RISE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY RISE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY SHOULD BECOME KNOWN BY THE SHOULD BECOME KNOWN BY THE PUBLIC. PUBLIC. THERE ARE MANY INSTANCES, AND THERE ARE MANY INSTANCES, AND I’M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT I’M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT, BUT IN CORPORATE GOVERNMENT, BUT IN CORPORATE AMERICA WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT MAKE AMERICA WHERE SOMEONE MIGHT MAKE A CLAIM, THE AUTHORITIES ABOVE A CLAIM, THE AUTHORITIES ABOVE MIGHT HE REVIEW YOU IT AND SAY MIGHT HE REVIEW YOU IT AND SAY OKAY, WE’LL TAKE IT. OKAY, WE’LL TAKE IT. THIS DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO THE THIS DOES NOT NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL BECAUSE WE DON’T NEXT LEVEL BECAUSE WE DON’T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE CLAIM IS. ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE CLAIM IS.>>THAT IS A GREAT POINT.>>THAT IS A GREAT POINT. BUT HAVING SERVED IN THE BUT HAVING SERVED IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, EVERY INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, EVERY SINGLE YEAR I HAD TO SIGN A SINGLE YEAR I HAD TO SIGN A CERTIFICATION FORM SAYING IF I CERTIFICATION FORM SAYING IF I WITNESSED ANY INTELLIGENCE WITNESSED ANY INTELLIGENCE ABUSE, IT WASN’T JUST AN OPTION ABUSE, IT WASN’T JUST AN OPTION TO REPORT IT, IT WAS MANDATORY. TO REPORT IT, IT WAS MANDATORY. SO SINCE THE INTELLIGENCE ABUSES SO SINCE THE INTELLIGENCE ABUSES OF THE 1970s WHERE THERE WAS OF THE 1970s WHERE THERE WAS XWROES XWROES GROSS VIOLATIONS, WE ARE NOW GROSS VIOLATIONS, WE ARE NOW WHERE IF SOMEONE THINKS THAT WHERE IF SOMEONE THINKS THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG, THEIR THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG, THEIR JOB IS AS TO REPORT IT. JOB IS AS TO REPORT IT. IT IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED IT IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED LATER ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT LATER ON THE DEGREE TO WHICH IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL, BUT IT CHILLS WHISTLE BLOWING IF WE SAY CHILLS WHISTLE BLOWING IF WE SAY THAT 2 WASN’T IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT 2 WASN’T IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO GET TO CONGRESS. TO GET TO CONGRESS.>>TELL ME WHAT IT IS LIKE –>>TELL ME WHAT IT IS LIKE — THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE PHONE. THE PRESIDENT IS ON THE PHONE. SET THE STAGE. SET THE STAGE. WHO GETS TO LISTEN? WHO GETS TO LISTEN? ARE THEY LISTENING IN, ARE THEY ARE THEY LISTENING IN, ARE THEY SEEING TRANSCRIPTS IN HOW DOES SEEING TRANSCRIPTS IN HOW DOES IT WORK IS THIS BY THE IT WORK IS THIS BY THE PRESIDENT’S TWEET, HE’S LIKE PRESIDENT’S TWEET, HE’S LIKE PLEASE, OF COURSE I KNOW PEOPLE PLEASE, OF COURSE I KNOW PEOPLE ARE LISTENING. ARE LISTENING. WHY WOULD I SAY SOMETHING. WHY WOULD I SAY SOMETHING. WELL, YOU MIGHT FORGET THAT IF WELL, YOU MIGHT FORGET THAT IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY LEANING BACK ON YOU ARE ACTUALLY LEANING BACK ON A PHONE CALL BY YOURSELF WITHOUT A PHONE CALL BY YOURSELF WITHOUT ANYONE STANDING NEAR YOU. ANYONE STANDING NEAR YOU. LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN FORGET LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN FORGET WE HAVE A HOT HIKE OIG.MIC. WE HAVE A HOT HIKE OIG.MIC.>>AND THERE ARE PROCESSES IN>>AND THERE ARE PROCESSES IN PLACE WHERE CALLS ARE PATCHED PLACE WHERE CALLS ARE PATCHED THROUGH, THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T THROUGH, THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T PICK UP AND START DIALING. PICK UP AND START DIALING. PEOPLE WILL LISTEN IN FOR PEOPLE WILL LISTEN IN FOR PURPOSING OF MEMORIALIZING WHAT PURPOSING OF MEMORIALIZING WHAT THAT — THAT –>>BUT ARE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM>>BUT ARE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WITH HIM? WITH HIM?>>THAT IS UP TO THE PRESIDENT>>THAT IS UP TO THE PRESIDENT IF HE HAS ADVISERS AROUND HIM. IF HE HAS ADVISERS AROUND HIM. BUT YOU HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE BUT YOU HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE FOR COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE FOR EXAMPLE, THE SITUATION ROOM EXAMPLE, THE SITUATION ROOM WHICH WILL BE PATCHING IN CALLS WHICH WILL BE PATCHING IN CALLS FROM FOREIGN LEADERS. FROM FOREIGN LEADERS. SO THERE ARE OTHERS THERE. SO THERE ARE OTHERS THERE. BUT THE ONE FASCINATING ABOUT BUT THE ONE FASCINATING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S DEFENSE OF THIS, THE PRESIDENT’S DEFENSE OF THIS, HE IS SAYING DO YOU THINK I’M HE IS SAYING DO YOU THINK I’M REALLY DUMB ENOUGH TO SAY REALLY DUMB ENOUGH TO SAY SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE WHILE SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE WHILE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE ARE LISTENING IN. LISTENING IN. THE COUNTER TO THAT, IF IT IS SO THE COUNTER TO THAT, IF IT IS SO INNOCENT, WHY IS THE EXECUTIVE INNOCENT, WHY IS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH TRYING ON OBSTRUCT IT BRANCH TRYING ON OBSTRUCT IT FROM GETTING TO CONGRESS. FROM GETTING TO CONGRESS. SO RELEASE THE INFORMATION AND SO RELEASE THE INFORMATION AND HELP PROTECT THE WHISTLE BLOWER HELP PROTECT THE WHISTLE BLOWER PROCESS. PROCESS.>>ADAM SCHIFF SAID THAT THEY>>ADAM SCHIFF SAID THAT THEY DON’T SPECIFICALLY KNOW IF THE DON’T SPECIFICALLY KNOW IF THE WHITE HOUSE WAS DIRECTLY WHITE HOUSE WAS DIRECTLY INVOLVED, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE IS INVOLVED, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE IS MAKING A CLAIM THAT PRIVILEGE MAKING A CLAIM THAT PRIVILEGE MAY APPLY. MAY APPLY. SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? SO WHAT DOES THAT TELL US? OR WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU? OR WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU?>>THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE>>THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE JUST INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE JUST SHOWS ME HOW MUCH OF A STRUGGLE SHOWS ME HOW MUCH OF A STRUGGLE THIS IS BETWEEN THE TWO BRANCHES THIS IS BETWEEN THE TWO BRANCHES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING HERE AND WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING HERE IS A CONGRESS THAT IS NOT IS A CONGRESS THAT IS NOT GETTING ACCESS TO INFORMATION. GETTING ACCESS TO INFORMATION. THE PUBLIC DOESN’T ALWAYS GET TO THE PUBLIC DOESN’T ALWAYS GET TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. KNOW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS. LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE. LIKE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE. BUT THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE BUT THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTEE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE APPOINTED TO THAT COMMITTEE ARE APPOINTED TO THAT COMMITTEE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VERY SERIOUS SUPPOSED TO BE VERY SERIOUS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. THIS KIND OF INFORMATION. AND THIS THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO AND THIS THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET INFORMATION OF AN ONGOING GET INFORMATION OF AN ONGOING NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE IS A SERIOUS ALLEGATION THAT CHAIRMAN SERIOUS ALLEGATION THAT CHAIRMAN SCHIFF IS MAKING AND I THINK A SCHIFF IS MAKING AND I THINK A LOT OF PRESSURE IS ON HIM ON HOW LOT OF PRESSURE IS ON HIM ON HOW THE NEXT HEARING NEXT WEEK, THE THE NEXT HEARING NEXT WEEK, THE OPEN ONE, IS GOING TO BE OPEN ONE, IS GOING TO BE CONDUCTED. CONDUCTED.>>KEN, WHAT STUCK OUT TO YOU>>KEN, WHAT STUCK OUT TO YOU FROM WHAT ADAM SCHIFF SAID? FROM WHAT ADAM SCHIFF SAID?>>WELL, THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE>>WELL, THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE TO THE ARGUMENT. TO THE ARGUMENT. I’VE SEEN THE LETTERS THAT THE I’VE SEEN THE LETTERS THAT THE DNI’S GENERAL COUNSEL SENT TO DNI’S GENERAL COUNSEL SENT TO SCHIFF. SCHIFF. AND WHAT THEY ARE ARGUING IS AND WHAT THEY ARE ARGUING IS THAT THIS CONDUCT AND THE PERSON THAT THIS CONDUCT AND THE PERSON WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF THE WHO IS THE SUBJECT OF THE COMPLAINT, THEY HAVE DON’T NAME COMPLAINT, THEY HAVE DON’T NAME HIM, BUT WE KNOW IT IS DONALD HIM, BUT WE KNOW IT IS DONALD TRUMP, DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE TRUMP, DOES NOT FALL UNDER THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHISTLE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHISTLE BLOWER’S PROTECTION ACT THAT BLOWER’S PROTECTION ACT THAT SCHIFF IS TALKING ABOUT. SCHIFF IS TALKING ABOUT. SO A NARROW LEGAL ARGUMENT. SO A NARROW LEGAL ARGUMENT. I’M NOT SURE HOW THE COURTS WILL I’M NOT SURE HOW THE COURTS WILL COME DOWN ON THAT. COME DOWN ON THAT. IT IS A MEMBER OF THE IT IS A MEMBER OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHO FILED INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHO FILED THE COMPLAINT WE KNOW, BUT WE THE COMPLAINT WE KNOW, BUT WE DON’T KNOW WHETHER IT IS ABOUT DON’T KNOW WHETHER IT IS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY CLASSIFIED SPECIFICALLY CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE MATTERS AND WE KNOW INTELLIGENCE MATTERS AND WE KNOW THAT THE PERSON IT INVOLVES, THAT THE PERSON IT INVOLVES, DONALD TRUMP, IS NOT IN THE DONALD TRUMP, IS NOT IN THE IN-TELLIN- IN-TELLIN- INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. BUT THE INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR BUT THE INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR GENERAL, A NONPARTISAN NEUTRAL GENERAL, A NONPARTISAN NEUTRAL OBSERVER, HE IS SAYING THAT THIS OBSERVER, HE IS SAYING THAT THIS SHOULD BE TURNED OVER TO SHOULD BE TURNED OVER TO CONGRESS. CONGRESS. AND WHETHER IT FITS UNDER THIS AND WHETHER IT FITS UNDER THIS NARROW WHISTLE BLOWER LAW OR NARROW WHISTLE BLOWER LAW OR NOT, THE POINT IS THERE HAS BEEN NOT, THE POINT IS THERE HAS BEEN AN ALLEGATION OF MISCONDUCT MADE AN ALLEGATION OF MISCONDUCT MADE INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT. INVOLVING THE PRESIDENT. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT THERE HAS TO BE A WAY THAT CONGRESS GETS TO KNOW THE CONGRESS GETS TO KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT. DETAILS OF THAT. IT IS CLASSIFIED IF IT INVOLVES IT IS CLASSIFIED IF IT INVOLVES A PHONE CALL WITH A FOREIGN A PHONE CALL WITH A FOREIGN LEADER BECAUSE FOREIGN RELATIONS LEADER BECAUSE FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES THAT THE OF THE UNITED STATES THAT THE PRESIDENT CONDUCTED GENERALLY PRESIDENT CONDUCTED GENERALLY ARE CLASSIFIED. ARE CLASSIFIED. BUT THAT DOESN’T BE TRAY A BUT THAT DOESN’T BE TRAY A SOURCE OR METHOD OR SPECIFIC SOURCE OR METHOD OR SPECIFIC SECRET THAT WILL COST PEOPLE’S SECRET THAT WILL COST PEOPLE’S LIVES. LIVES. AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SHOULD AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW IF THERE IS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW IF THERE IS AN ALLEGATION OF HIGH SCHOOL AN ALLEGATION OF HIGH SCHOOL CONDUCT OF A SMARMY DEAL OR CONDUCT OF A SMARMY DEAL OR INAPPROPRIATE OFFER BY THE INAPPROPRIATE OFFER BY THE PRESIDENT TO A FOREIGN LEADER. PRESIDENT TO A FOREIGN LEADER.>>EXCEPT OF COURSE WE’RE NOT>>EXCEPT OF COURSE WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT COSTING PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT COSTING PEOPLE THEIR LIVE WILL SS, WE ARE TALKI THEIR LIVE WILL SS, WE ARE TALKI ABOUT INFORMATION THAT COULD ABOUT INFORMATION THAT COULD COST A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON COST A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON THEIR JOB. THEIR JOB. JOSH, I CAN’T THINK OF A BETTER JOSH, I CAN’T THINK OF A BETTER DAY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BOOK. DAY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BOOK. YOU SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT NEED FOR INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT OF FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE THE OF FEDERAL AGENCIES LIKE THE FBI. FBI. SOUNDS GREAT EXCEPT LOOK AT THE SOUNDS GREAT EXCEPT LOOK AT THE SITUATION WE’RE THIS TODAY WHERE SITUATION WE’RE THIS TODAY WHERE AN INDEPENDENT WATCHDOG AGENCY AN INDEPENDENT WATCHDOG AGENCY GETS OVERRULED AND WE DON’T EVEN GETS OVERRULED AND WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHY. KNOW WHY.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. THIS IS A STRESS TEST ON THIS THIS IS A STRESS TEST ON THIS INSTITUTION AND THE PROCESSES IN INSTITUTION AND THE PROCESSES IN A WAY THAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN. A WAY THAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN. WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT COMES WE KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT COMES IN AS A DISRUPTER, SOMEONE WHO IN AS A DISRUPTER, SOMEONE WHO IS UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT WHAT I IS UNCONVENTIONAL, BUT WHAT I ARGUE IN THE BOOK, THIS CLASH ARGUE IN THE BOOK, THIS CLASH BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE INSTITUTIONAL NORMS. INSTITUTIONAL NORMS. YOU GO BACK AND LOOK IN OUR YOU GO BACK AND LOOK IN OUR HISTORY, THERE WERE REAL ABUSES HISTORY, THERE WERE REAL ABUSES OF POWER. OF POWER.>>LIKE WHEN.>>LIKE WHEN.>>J. EDGAR HOOVER AND OTHERS>>J. EDGAR HOOVER AND OTHERS ENGAGED IN ABUSE OF CIVIL ENGAGED IN ABUSE OF CIVIL LIBERTIES. LIBERTIES. AND THEY HAD FILES ON U.S. AND THEY HAD FILES ON U.S. CITIZENS. CITIZENS. SINCE THAT TIME CONGRESS SAID NO SINCE THAT TIME CONGRESS SAID NO MORE, WE’RE GOING TO INSTITUTE MORE, WE’RE GOING TO INSTITUTE THESE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES LIKE THESE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEES LIKE CHAIRMAN SCHIFF, HIS COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN SCHIFF, HIS COMMITTEE IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THESE IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THESE REFORMS. REFORMS.>>BUT RIGHT NOW, DOESN’T IT>>BUT RIGHT NOW, DOESN’T IT SEEM LIKE THESE COMMITTEES, SEEM LIKE THESE COMMITTEES, WHILE THEY SHOULDN’T BE, APPEAR WHILE THEY SHOULDN’T BE, APPEAR FECKLESS, JUST TIME AND GIVEN FECKLESS, JUST TIME AND GIVEN THEY COME OUT AND THEY ARE THEY COME OUT AND THEY ARE OUTRAGED AND NORMS HAVE BEEN OUTRAGED AND NORMS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED, BUT THERE IS NOTHING VIOLATED, BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. THAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT. KELLYANNE CONWAY LAUGHS WHEN KELLYANNE CONWAY LAUGHS WHEN PEOPLE RAISE A VIOLATION OF THE PEOPLE RAISE A VIOLATION OF THE HATCH ACT. HATCH ACT.>>AND WE HAVEN’T SEEN A REMEDY.>>AND WE HAVEN’T SEEN A REMEDY. THAT IS WHERE THE THIRD BRANCH THAT IS WHERE THE THIRD BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT COMES IN, THE OF GOVERNMENT COMES IN, THE COURTS. COURTS. AND CHAIRMAN SCHIFF MENTIONED AND CHAIRMAN SCHIFF MENTIONED THAT THEY ARE LIKELY TO LITIGATE THAT THEY ARE LIKELY TO LITIGATE THIS. THIS. WE’LL HAVE TO SEE WHETHER THAT WE’LL HAVE TO SEE WHETHER THAT THIRD BRANCH SAYS THIS ISN’T THIRD BRANCH SAYS THIS ISN’T JUST — THESE AREN’T JUST NORMS JUST — THESE AREN’T JUST NORMS OR GUARDRAILS. OR GUARDRAILS. THESE ARE LAWS. THESE ARE LAWS. WHISTLE BLOWER PROTECT ACT IS WHISTLE BLOWER PROTECT ACT IS LAW. LAW. SO IF IT APPEARS THAT THE WHITE SO IF IT APPEARS THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IS STONE WALLING IN HOUSE IS STONE WALLING IN GETTING INFORMATION TO THE GETTING INFORMATION TO THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, I ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, I EXPECT THAT WE WILL SEE THE EXPECT THAT WE WILL SEE THE COURT STEP IN AND TRY TO GET COURT STEP IN AND TRY TO GET THAT ARE INFORMATION AND THAT ARE INFORMATION AND DISLODGE TO THE REPRESENTATIVES DISLODGE TO THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT NEED TO HAVE IT. THAT NEED TO HAVE IT.>>WE’LL SOON FIND OUT.>>WE’LL SOON FIND OUT. JOSH CAMPBELL, ABBY LIVING SON