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FORMER STATE SENATOR AND OHA
TRUSTEE CLAYTON HEE DROPPED OUT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY
FOR GOVERNOR AND INSTEAD, TRYING TO GET HIS OLD SENATE
JOB BACK FROM INCUMBENT GIL RIVIERE.
THE FACEOFF IS A WINNER TAKE ALL CONTEST FOR SENATE
DISTRICT 23 COVERING WINDWARD OAHU AND THE NORTH SHORE.
ALSO, ON TAP, THE RACE FOR HONOLULU CITY COUNCIL
DISTRICT 6 FROM MAKIKI TO MOANALUA, INCUMBENT CAROL
FUKUNAGA FACES THREE CHALLENGERS, TYLER DOS SANTOS
TAM, IKAIKA HUSSEY AND ZACH STODDARD.
TONIGHT’S LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAIʻI STARTS NOW. [INTRO MUSIC] ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS
ON PBS HAWAIʻI…I’M YUNJI DE NIES.
TONIGHT WE’RE DOING A DOUBLE HEADER, FEATURING CANDIDATES
FOR TWO DIFFERENT OFFICES, DISTRICT 23 OF THE HAWAIʻI
STATE SENATE AND DISTRICT 6 FOR THE HONOLULU CITY
COUNCIL. IN BOTH CASES THESE TWO RACES COULD BE DECIDED IN
THE PRIMARY ELECTION. FOR SENATE DISTRICT 23, THE ONLY
TWO CANDIDATES RUNNING ARE BOTH DEMOCRATS, INCUMBENT GIL
RIVIERE AND CHALLENGER CLAYTON HEE. FOR HONOLULU
CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 6, A NON-PARTISAN RACE, IF ONE
CANDIDATE RECEIVES MORE THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE VOTE, SHE OR
HE WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY ELECTED WITHOUT HAVING TO
HAVE A RUNOFF IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.
OUR FIRST HALF HOUR WILL FEATURE THE TWO DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES FOR SENATE DISTRICT 23. AFTER A QUICK
CHANGE WE WILL HAVE THE FOUR CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY
COUNCIL SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH US.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TONIGHT’S
SHOW. YOU CAN EMAIL, CALL OR TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS. AND
YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT PBSHAWAII.ORG
AND THE PBS HAWAII FACEBOOK PAGE.
WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR VOLUNTEERS WHO WILL BE TAKING
YOUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT. THERE YOU SEE A LIVE SHOT OF THEM
EAGERLY AWAITING YOUR INPUT TO TONIGHT’S SHOW.
NOW, TO OUR GUESTS. THEY ARE BOTH DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR
THE SENATE DISTRICT 23, WHICH COVERS KANE’OHE TO THE NORTH
SHORE, AND INLAND TO WAHIAWA, SCHOFIELD BARRACKS AND KUNIA.
RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION IS SENATOR GIL RIVIERE. HE WAS
FIRST ELECTED TO THE STATE HOUSE IN 2012 AS A REPUBLICAN,
WHERE HE SERVED ONE TERM. HE WAS ELECTED TO THE STATE
SENATE IN 2014 AS A DEMOCRAT. HE IS A MORTGAGE LOAN OFFICER
AND LIVES IN WAIALUA. OUR NEXT GUEST IS FORMER
SENATOR CLAYTON HEE WHO HELD THIS VERY SEAT FROM 2004 UNTIL
2014. HE WAS FIRST ELECTED TO OFFICE IN 1982, HOLDING
DIFFERENT SEATS IN THE STATE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, THE
OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS AND THE SENATE. HE IS
CURRENTLY A FARMER AND CONSULTANT AND LIVES IN
AHUIMANU VALLEY. WELCOME TONIGHT.
SUCH AN INTERESTING DISTRICT AS WE SAW FROM THAT MAP THERE.
YOU HAVE SUCH A DIVERSITY OF NEEDS AND INTERESTS.
ON THE ONE HAND, FOLKS WHO WANT TO KEEP THE COUNTRY
COUNTRY. ON THE OTHER, YOU HAVE A
DISTRICT THAT’S VERY RELIANT ON TOURISM, VISITORS, AND
WANTING TO EXPAND HOUSING. HOW DO YOU BALANCE THOSE TWO
NEEDS AS THE INCUMBENT, WE’LL START WITH YOU.
WELL, STRAINS WE’RE FEELING WITH THE OVERWHELM OF TOURISM
ARE REALLY, REALLY REMARKABLE.
PEOPLE ARE FEELING IT. FOR THE LAST SEVERAL
YEARS,IVE ADVOCATING TO HAWAII TOURISM AUTHORITY THEY
NEED TO TAKE TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
VISITORS THEY’RE BRINGING AND IMPACTS.
PARKS ARE OVERLOADED. TRAILS ARE OVERLOADED.
PEOPLE ARE GETTING INTO TROUBLE HIKING, IN THE OCEAN
AND SUCH. HTA ON THE MANTRA IS MORE IS
BETTER. MORE IS BETTER.
MORE IS BETTER. LAST FEW YEARS, PUSHING THEM
TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBLE AND HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF
THAT MAXIMUM QUICK INCREASE OF TOURISM.
SO IN THE LAST YEAR, WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY PUSH BACK
AND GET THEM TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE.
MRS. CHANGING THE FOCUS TO ADDING POUR MONEY TO
DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
>>ONE ELEMENT OF THIS TOURISM EXPLOSION.
>>Yunji: BALANCE BETWEEN COUNTRY THE COUNTRY COUNTRY
AND WANTING TO BRING MORE DOLLARS?
>>THE DIFFICULTY WITH THE DISTRICT PHYSICAL NATURE OF
THE DISTRICT. PREDOMINANTLY TWO-LANE
HIGHWAY. SO ANY TIME YOU HAVE TOURISTS
ON THE ROAD AND POLYNESIAN CULTURAL CENTER HAS A SHOW,
VIRTUALLY EVERY NIGHT, IT IMPACTS THE COMMUNITIES.
WITH MORE TOURISTS COMING SOMETIMES A MILLION A MONTH,
THAT IMPACTS THE TWO-LANE HIGHWAY.
AND WHAT EXACERBATES THAT IS THAT WHEN IT’S KING TIDES, OR
WHEN IT’S STORMY WEATHER, THERE ARE PARTS OF THAT
DISTRICT, WAIKANE, IN PARTICULAR, KAAAWA ANOTHER
AREA, WHERE THE HIGH WHICH IMPACTED BY MOTHER NATURE.
SO YOU KNOW, LOOKING FORWARD BIG CHALLENGE OF THE DISTRICT
WILL BE GLOBAL WARMING AND SEA LEVEL RISE.
THAT WILL ACCELERATE AND EXACERBATE THE WIND,
PARTICULARLY DURING THE WINTERTIME AND DURING STORMS.
THAT IMPACT HIGHWAY, IMPACT THE SHORELINE.
>>Yunji: WE CAN’T NECESSARILY STOP CLIMATE CHANGE OR MOTHER
NATURE. HOW DO YOU PROPOSE THE
IMMEDIATE PROBLEM THAT YOU BROUGHT WITH THAT ROAD?
>>WELL, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DID A STUDY
AND THEY SAID THAT THERE’S 38 COASTAL MILES STATEWIDE.
AND TO EITHER RELOCATE OR ELEVATE, THEY ESTIMATED THE
COST WOULD BE 15 BILLION IN $2,018.
IT’S INTERESTING BECAUSE MY OWN BELIEF IS THE COST OF RAIL
WILL BE ABOUT $15 BILLION. IF THERE NEEDED TO BE A WORK,
MAKE PROJECTS, ELEVATED OR RELOCATING COASTAL HIGHWAY
WHICHS MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE THAT BE THAN RAIL SYSTEM THAT
WILL PROBABLY TRIPLE TAXPAYORS COMMITMENT.
BY THE END OF THE DAY.>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THAT? WITH THAT PARTICULAR ROAD.
LOOKING TO KING TIDES AND OTHER COASTAL EROSION ISSUES.
WHAT CAN BE DONE RIGHT NOW SHORT OF PERHAPS HE WILLED
HIGHWAY — ELEVATED HIGHWAY?>>ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS NOT BEEN VERY EFFICIENT AT
GETTING THEIR PROJECTS DONE. FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADE,
ALLOTTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR SHORELINE PRESIDENT
EVACUATION IN HAUULA, AREAS IMMEDIATELY IMPACTED.
COUPLE OF YEARS, SPENT NEARLY $5 MILLION OF EMERGENCY FUNDS
IN KAAAWA TO SHORE UP THE ROAD.
THEY’RE NOT WORKING PROACTIVELY ENOUGH TO DO THE
MITIGATION. OF THE HIGHWAY JUST TO SUSTAIN
IT. LET ALONE THE LONG RANGE
VISIONING. I WANT TO ADD BACK ON THAT
KEEPING THE COUNTRY COUNTRY. QUESTION.
THERE IS CONTROVERSY WHETHER OR NOT HOUSING IN KAHUKU AND
MALAEKAHANA SHOULD BE PRESERVED, KEEPS MOVING
FORWARD. CITY COUNCIL MOVED OUT OF
COMMITTEE TO ALLOW COUPLE HUNDRED HOUSES ON THIS LAND.
COMING UP WITH FANCY WORDS TO SAY IT’S NOT MALAEKAHANA.
BUT THERE IS AN EXPANSION GOING ON.
I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN TESTIFYING AT THE CITY
COUNCIL IN ON TO THAT EXPANSION IN REPRESENTING THE
REST OF THE COMMUNITY. HOT POTATO.
>>Yunji: ON THE ISSUE OF HOUSING, ILLEGAL VACATION
RENTALS ARE OF WHERE ESPECIALLY IN YOUR DISTRICT
IF YOU LOOK AT THE KAILUA AREA AND THROUGHOUT THE NORTH
SHORE. THERE’S A HUGE BLAME FOR THE
LACK OF RENTAL UNITS. IS THERE A WAY THAT’S
LEGISLATURE CAN ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM?
WHY HAVEN’T THEY ALREADY?>>WELL THE LEGISLATURE, ONE
THING, THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE THE VACATION RENTALS ARE A REAL PROBLEM.
TAKE UP AS MUCH AS 15% OR 20% OF HOUSING STOCK IN CERTAIN OF
THE PARTS OF THE DISTRICT. I’VE BEEN VERY, VERY VOCAL ON
THAT. PROUD TO SAY WORKING WITH
CYNTHIA THIELEN, CHANGED CONVERSATION FROM AIRB&B
CONVERSION, COLLECTING TAXES AND PASSING THEM THROUGH YOU
TO THE STATE. CHANGES CONVERSATION SENATE
POSITION IS OKAY, AIRB&B WE’LL ALLOW TO YOU PASS
THROUGH THE TAXES PROVIDED YOU PROVIDE REPORTS TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION AND LOCAL ACCOUNTING AUTHORITIES
SO WE CAN GET SOME CONTROL OVER THIS PROLIFERATION.
THAT’S FROM THE STATE LEVEL. GOOD WAY TO HELP THE COUNTIES
GET ENFORCEMENT.>>Yunji: YOU MENTIONED
THAT –>>VACATION RENTALS SHOULD BE
PLACED AS HIGHER TAX BRACKET AND MAKE IT ONEROUS ON THE
OWNERS OF VACATION RENTALS. PARTICULARLY THE OFFSHORE
OWNERS. BECAUSE THE VACATION RENTALS
SERVE NO PURPOSE IN TERMS OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE.
AND WHEN IT’S PROFIT MOTIVATED, THEY SHOULD BE SET
AT A HIGHER TAX BRACKET TO INCENTIVIZE THE COLLECTION
TAX COLLECTION AND DISINCENTIVIZE FOREIGN
OWNERSHIP OF VALUABLE VACATION RENTAL SPACES ON THE
ISLAND. PARTICULARLY IN THE DISTRICT,
IN THE NORTH SHORE.>>Yunji: HOW WOULD YOU
PROPOSE ENFORCING SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
ENFORCE THEM THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF TAXATION.
PRETTY SIMPLE. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
ENFORCING TAXES.>>Yunji: ONE OF THE THINGS
PEOPLE STRUGGLING WITH THROUGHOUT THE STATE,
PARTICULARLY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. LOCAL FOLKS FINDING TO THINGS
THEY CAN ACTUALLY BUY. HOW CAN WE HELP THE NEXT
GENERATION AFFORD A HOUSE?>>WELL, MY OWN VIEW IS THE
BEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER TODAY IN HAWAII IS
THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOMELANDS.
AND IT’S PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN
HOMELANDSES IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING IN THE
INFRASTRUCTURE. MAKING THE HOUSE AFFORDABLE.
SO USING THAT MOTTO, I BELIEVE TO MAKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AVAILABLE, AND TRULY AFFORDABLE, THE STATE NEEDS
TO BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER AND SHARE
THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE
CONDITION THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT IS TRULY
AFFORDABLE. I KNOW OF, FOR EXAMPLE, A
ENERGY EFFICIENT UNIT IN WAIMANALO.
RECENTLY BUILT. RECENTLY IN THE LAST FIVE
YEARS, THREE BEDROOM, 2 BATH, UP AND DOWN, PV,
SOLAR. MORTGAGE IS A THOUSAND
DOLLARS. SHE HAS TWO GENERATIONS IF
THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE. THERE’S ONE IN KAPOLEI, 4
BEDROOM, 3 BATH. 1200.
NOW, DEVELOPERS CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE
INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. AND OTHER ISSUES, BUT
DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOMELANDS HAS DONE IT.
AND SO THAT IS A MODEL THAT SHOULD BE EMULATED BUT THE
STATE NEEDS TO HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME.
BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO HOLD THEIR FEET, DEVELOPER’S FEET
TO THE FIRE. SO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
THAT TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS TRULY AFFORDABLE.
>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
>>IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BEEN TALKING AT THE
LEGISLATURE ABOUT MICROHOUSING.
HIKE MICROUNITS. SMALL UNITS.
CROWDED COMMUNITIES CROWDED EXPENSIVE PLACES IN ASIA IN
PARTICULAR HAVE SMALL LIVING UNITS.
PEOPLE LIVE QUITE FINE. SO I THINK PART OF IT HAS TO
BE A PARADIGM SHIFT AS TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING TO LIVE
IN. I THINK THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS
GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE 2 ACRES OR ONE ACRE OR 5,000
SQUARE FEET. SO MAYBE IN ADDITION TO TOWNHOUSES, WE
NEED MORE MIKE REUNITS. MAYBE USED TO HAVE BOARDING
HOUSES FOR PEOPLE WHO REALLY COULDN’T AFFORD.
REAL AFFORDABLE THINGS. I THINK WE NEED GREATER VARIETY
OF HOUSING STYLES AN MORE CONSIDERATION ON DEVELOPING
THOSE IN AREAS WHERE THEY CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.
>>Yunji: WHAT MAKES OUR SHOW DIFFERENT THAN OTHER
CANDIDATE FORUMS YOU THE AUDIENCE GET TO PARTICIPATE.
WE HAVE SOME AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION.
WE WANT TO COURAGE YOU TO KEEP CALLING VOLUNTEERS.
THIS ONE IS FOR CLAYTON HEE FROM CHAIR IN KAAAWA.
DEDICATES PERCENTAGE OF THE STATE’S BUDGET FOR EDUCATION
RATHER THAN RAISING PROPERTY TAX.
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT? YOU COULD ADVOCATE — I’M A
PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER. AND NO QUESTION THAT MY MIND,
THAT PART OF THE ISSUES DEALING WITH SCHOOLTEACHERS
IS THEIR SALARY. RECRUITMENT.
IT HAS TO DO WITH INCENTIVIZEING PEOPLE TO BE
SCHOOL TEACHERS. I’M A PRODUCT OF WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT HOUSING. I LIVED, WHEN WAY AS SCHOOL
TEACHER ON MOLOKAI, I LIVED IN A TEACHERS COTTAGE PROVIDE BY
THE STATE. IN ESSENCE, THAT’S WORK FORCE
DEVELOPMENT HOUSING. AS LONG AS I WAS A TEACHER, I
WAS WELCOMED TO LIVE THERE. WHEN I STOPPED TEACHING, THE
HOUSING WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
IT REVERTED BACK TO THE STATE. THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK
CAN HELP SCHOOLTEACHERS AND THAT’S PROVIDING WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT HOUSING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION
WHETHER IT’S PROVIDED BY PRIVATE ENTITIES OR IF THE
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THROUGH THE STATE LOOKS AT
PROVIDING HOUSING, TO INCENTIVIZE TEACHERS LIKE I
WAS, WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT ONLY TEACH ON A GREAT
ISLAND, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN TEACHERS COTTAGE.
>>Yunji: ON THAT SUBJECT OF EDUCATION, THERE IS A
PROPOSAL NOW TO CHANGE THE STATE CONSTITUTION TO ALLOW
THE STATE TO TAX INVESTMENT PROPERS TO FUND PUBLIC
SCHOOLS. IS THAT A MEASURE THAT YOU
SUPPORT?>>YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED I
WAS THE ONLY MEMBER IN THE LEGISLATURE TO VOTE AGAINST
THAT. THE VOTE WAS 24-1.
IN THE SENATE. AND IT WAS 50-0 IN SUPPORT.
I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT GIVING THE STATE AN
ADDITIONAL TAXING AUTHORITY. EVEN IF THE BEST OF INTENTIONS
ARE FOLLOWED OUT FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND ONLY THOSE
RICH OFFSHORE INVESTORS ARE TAXED, FIRST THERE’S A
QUESTION OF WILL A GENERATE ENOUGH FUNDS FOR THE
DEPARTMENT AS THEY ENVISION. SECONDLY, ONCE YOU CREATE A
TAXING AUTHORITY, HISTORY HAS SHOWN WE WILL TAX.
SO IF WE CAN TAX INVESTOR PROPERTIES, WE WILL
ULTIMATELY BE TAXING EVERY INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE HO CAN LEAST AFFORD THE COST,
RENTERS, ARE GOING TO END UP PAYING AS MUCH AS 3 OR $400
MORE A MONTH TO PAY THOSE PROPERTY TAX BECAUSE THE
INVESTER IS NOT GOING TO PAY IT.
OWNER IS GOING TO PASS THAT ON IN THE COST OF RENT.
SMALL BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, HOTELS
COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, ALL OF THOSE ARE INVESTMENT
PROPERTIES. I SEE THIS AS A BACK DOOR WAY
TO JUST HUGELY EXPANDS THE TAX BASE FOR OUR STATE
GOVERNMENT.>>Yunji: WE NEED TO PAY
TEACHERS MORE. HOW DO WE DO THAT?
>>SO, SEVERAL, I THINK 8 YEARS AGO, BUDGET WAS
APPROXIMATELY $10 BILLION AND WE PAID ABOUT CERTAIN
AMOUNT FOR EDUCATION. WHICH IS 2 TO $3 BILLION
DEPENDING ON HOW YOU COUNT IT. NOW, THE BUDGET HAS GROWN FROM
10 BILLION TO 14 BILLION. BUT EDUCATION FUNDING HAS NOT
INCREASED. SO IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT
PRIORITIZING THAT EDUCATION, I’M SAYING LET’S MAKE IT THAT
PRIORITY AND LET’S PUT AT LEAST 25% OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET
TOWARDS EDUCATION. IF THAT’S THE PRIORITY THAT WE
ARE SEEKING. LET’S DO THAT AND THEN AS THE
BUDGET GROW, WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT EDUCATIONAL LEVEL.
WITHOUT PUTTING THAT UNDUE BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE WHO RENT
THEIR HOMES.>>IF I WAS IN THE SENATE, I
WOULD HAVE MADE THE VOTE 25-0. BECAUSE WHAT GIL IS PRESUMING
IS THAT HE KNOWS BEST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
THE VOTE IS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO MAKE A CHOICE.
TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO STUDY THE
ISSUE AND THEN MAKE A CHOICE. THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF A
QUESTION BEFORE TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION.
AND GIL’S VOTE PREEMPTED THE OPPORTUNITY, IF HIS SIDE HAD
PREVAILED, WOULD HAVE PREEMPTED THE PUBLIC FROM
MAKING THAT CHOICE.>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THE MEASURE ITSELF?>>THE MEASURE ITSELF?
LIKE I SAID EARLIER, YOU CANNOT MAKE MONEY OUT OF THIN
AIR. IT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.
AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED, IF THE TAX BASE IS TO BE RAISED,
IT SHOULD BE BORN ON THE BACKS OF INVESTMENT PROPERTIES AND
IT BEINGLY, IF THEY’RE OFFSHORE OWNERS.
I FELT THAT WAY ABOUT THE RAIL AND WHEN I CAMPAIGNED, I SAID
THAT THE LOTTERY IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO RAISING OUR
FUNDS TO PAY FOR RAIL. LOTTERY IS AN ALTERNATE TO
RAISING FUNDS TO PAY FOR TEACHERS.
I SAID THAT LOUD AND CLEAR. AND I THINK THAT THOSE ARE
ALTERNATIVES TO PAYING FOR AS OPPOSED TO HAVING LOCAL
PEOPLE PAY FOR MORE TAXES.>>THE PROBLEM IS, THE
QUESTION SAYS SHALL THE STATE BE AUTHORIZED TO TAX
INVESTMENT PROPERTY TO PAY FOR EDUCATION.
SOUNDS NICE. WHAT IS NOT IN PLACE THERE IS
THE CONTEXT. AND THE ACTUAL RAMIFICATIONS.
IF WE LOOK AT THE TRANSIENT ACCOMMODATIONS TAX HOTEL TAX,
THAT WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED FOR VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSES IN
WAIKIKI. IT GOT USED TO BE FUNDING FOR
COUNTIES, FOR THE STATE, NOW, THE T.A.T. IS USED IT PAY FOR
RAIL. NEIGHBOR ISLANDERS ARE PAYING
FOR THE RAIL THROUGH THE T.A.T., CONVEYANCE TAXES
EXPANDED THE SAME WAY. ORIGINALLY TO PAY FOR THE
BUREAU OF CONVEYANCES. NOW, IT’S BECOME A BIG SLUSH
FUND. MY POINT IS WE HAVE TO BE VERY,
VERY CAREFUL AND I DON’T THINK THAT IT’S A GOOD IDEA.
THEREFORE, I WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THAT AND THAT’S WHY I’M
SPEAKING SO CLEARLY ABOUT IT. MOST OF THE OTHER POLITICIANS
WILL SAY, BUT THE LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE.
SEEMS AWFULLY CONVENIENT TO ME TO PASS IT ON TO THEM WHEN
WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
WE’RE THE GUYS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING THE
TOUGH CALLS AND MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS.
PASSING IT ON TO THE PUBLIC IN THAT CHARACTERS I THINK IS
FINE. LET’S HAVE THE QUESTION.
BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND NO VOTE ON IT.
>>Yunji: BOTH OF YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE STRESS OF
HAVING SO MANY VISITORS WE’RE APPROACHING 10 MILLION THIS
YEAR. WE HAVE ALMA KAILUA, GIVEN
TOURISM IS ABOUT TO BE MAXED OUT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT
REDUCING STATE FUNDING TO THE TOURISM INDUSTRY?
START WITH YOU ON THAT.>>I PUT IN A BILL LAST YEAR
BECAUSE FOR TEN YEARS, I’VE BEEN ASKING HAWAII TOURISM
AUTHORITY WHAT IS THE OPTIMAL NUMBER OF VISITORS.
BACK THEN, IT WAS 6.5 MILLION.
THEY SAID, WELL, ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT.
THEN IT WAS 7 MILLION. 8 MILLION.
9 MILLION. LAST YEAR, PUT IN A BILL THAT
SAYS, HTA YOU WOULDN’T IDENTIFY THE IMPACTS, ADMIT
MAXIMUM NUMBER YOU WANT. STATE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO
IDENTIFY THAT. THE BILL SAID WHEN YOU REACH
9 MILLION VISITORS, WE WILL DECLARE VICTORY AND MOVE 15%
OF HTA’S BUDGET TO THE DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND
NATURAL RESOURCES TO PAY FOR PARKS, TRAILS AND BEACHES.
IT WAS A POPULAR BILL THAT ACTUALLY PASSED OUT OF THREE
COMMITTEES THIS YEAR. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOW
GETTING IT. AS I’VE BEEN TALKING FOR THE
LAST FOUR YEARS ABOUT THIS VERY IMPACT.
THEY’RE GETTING IT. THAT HAWAII TOURISM AUTHORITY
NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. MAYBE THEIR BUDGET IS TOO
MUCH. I THINK IT IS.
IT’S BEEN ON PAR WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND
NATURAL RESOURCES WHO HAVE SUCH A GIANT KULEANA FOR THE
STATE. 1% OF THE STATE BUDGET FOR ALL
OF THE CHORES OF MAINTAINING OUR LANDS, CONSERVATION LANDS
AND SUCH, IS UNACCEPTABLE. WE NEED TO REAPPROPRIATE MORE
FUNDS FROM TOURISM TO MANAGING OUR LANDS.
>>Yunji: ARE WE SPENDING TOO MUCH.
>>1985 I VOTED FOR THE TOURIST TAX.
IT VERY FAMILIAR BACK THEN. WITH THE PEOPLE OPPOSED TO
EVEN INSTITUTING A TAX. PROBLEM TO ME IS THE ANSWER IS
YES. THE T.A.T. TOO MUCH OF THE
T.A.T. GOING TO HTA, NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE IN OFFICE, YOU BEAR THE
RESPONSIBILITY OF PRODUCT THAT YOU PRODUCE.
THAT’S WHAT YOU DO IN OFFICE. SO COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT IS
WRONG, PARTICULARLY GIL SITS ON WAYS AND MEANS.
THAT’S A POWERFUL COMMITTEE. IF YOU CAN’T GET YOUR WAY ON
WAYS AND MEANS. THEN MAYBE YOU YOUR
EFFECTIVENESS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT
TO GET YOUR POSITION ACROSS.>>MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS WHEN
I CAME IN, THE BUDGET FOR DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND
NATURAL RESOURCES WAS 124 MILLION.
THIS YEAR, THE 161 MILLION. THAT HAS BEEN MY, BECAUSE OF
MY DISTRICT, RURAL DISTRICT WITH ALL THE BAYS AND BEACHES
AND CONSERVATION LANDS THAT, HAS BEEN MY TOP PRIORITY.
BUDGETS, IF YOU ASK ANYBODY IN DLNR, ALL THE DIVISION, I’M
NUMBER ONE FAN MOVING THE DIAL IN THE DIRECTION FOR THEM.
THAT’S THE EQUIVALENT OF 1%. OF THE BUDGET.
SO I WOULDN’T BE BRAGGING ABOUT THAT.
>>Yunji: LET ME ASK YOU THIS. FOUR YEARS AGO, YOU ANNOUNCED
YOU WERE RUNNING FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
ENDORSED GIL RIVIERE FOR THIS VERY SEAT.
NOW, YOU’RE RUNNING AGAINST HIM.
WITH WHAT’S CHANGED IN THAT TIME?
>>I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN SOME OF THE THINGS HE DID.
I TOLD HIM THAT. HE WAS WALKING UP MY DRIVEWAY
ONE DAY AND I TOLD HIM THAT I HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT
RUNNING FOR THE SENATE. AND HE ASKED ME, HOW COME? HE
SAID, WELL, I’M DISAPPOINTED IN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU’VE
DONE. ONE OF THE THINGS IN
PARTICULAR IS IN 2008, THE STATE UNDER LAURA THIELEN, AS
DLNR DIRECTOR, SET OUT AND MOVED TO EVICT SIX FAMILIES IN
KAHANA. AT THE TIME I WAS MEMBER OF THE
SENATE. WENT IN THE VALLEY.
AND WE FOUGHT AND UPSHOT IS SIX FAMILIES ARE STILL THERE.
IN 2017, I GOT A CALL, WORK UP IN MY PASTURE FROM ONE.
MEMBERS OF THE SIX AND I COULD TELL, SHE WAS UPSET.
I SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, MENA, WHAT’S WRONG?
SHE SAID, YOU GOT TO SEE THIS RESOLUTION.
SENATOR RIVIERE IS HAVING MEETINGS IN HIS OFFICE AND
WE’RE AFRAID WE’RE GOING TO BE MOVED OUT.
I SAID, NO, THAT CANNOT BE BECAUSE THE LAND BOARD,
THROUGH A LAW 2009 MADE A DECISION TO ISSUE LEASES
WHICH THEY’RE DERELICT IN ISSUING EVEN TODAY.
AND SO I WENT TO THE MEETING AND I CALLED ACTUALLY MUTUAL
FRIEND OF OURS, DENNY SANTOLINI.
SHE TOLD ME SHE HAD TEXTED GIL.
THEY HAD A CONVERSATION. HE WOULD BE AT THE MEETING.
WAS GOING TO SAY TWO THINGS. I’M SORRY.
AND I MADE A MISTAKE. WHAT HE SAID AT THE MEETING
WAS, I DIDN’T READ THE RESOLUTION WHEN I SIGNED IT.
. THAT’S NOT TRUE.
>>THAT’S WHAT YOU SAID.>>I DIDN’T.
>>AND ONE OF GUY, IN FACT, LAST WEEK, HE SAID, WELL, HE
DIDN’T READ IT. I SAID, THAT’S NOT AN EXCUSE.
THAT’S DERELICTION. WHAT YOU’RE DOING.
BUT ISSUE OF HAVING THESE MEETINGS WITHOUT HAVING THE
SIX FAMILIES AT LEAST ON NOTICE THAT, HEY, YOU GUYS
OUGHT TO COMEMENT I’M GOING TO HAVE A MEETING THAT — I
CALLED MIKE GABBARD. I SAID, MIKE, WHAT ARE YOU
DOING? HE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, DLNR
WANTS TO REVISIT THIS PARK STUDY.
I SAID YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE UPSET AND FAMILIES INVOLVED.
IT WAS VERY UPSET ABOUT THAT. I TOLD DENNEY, THIS IS A
BRIGHT LIGHT IN THE SAND FOR ME.
DAYS OF MOVING LOCAL PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY HAWAIIANS OFF OF
ANCESTRAL LANDS BECAUSE THE STATE WANTS TO MOVE THEM OUT,
ARE OVER.>>Yunji: I HEARD YOU SAY
THAT’S NOT TRUE. SO WHAT IS TRUE?
>>HE CAN MAKE CLAIMS AND SAY THINGS THAT I’VE SAID, BUT I
DISAGREE. HE’S PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH
THAT WERE NOT SPOKEN.>>I WAS THERE, GIL.
>>AS WAS I.>>YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID.
>>SO THERE IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM WITH THE HOUSING AND
THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PARK. KAHANA HAS A LOT OF TROUBLES.
AND THERE’S A LOT OF UNSOLVED, UNRESOLVED MATTERS.
SENATOR WAS THERE BEFORE ME. AND THE MATTERS HAVE NOT BEEN
RESOLVED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAD A
MEETING WITH THREE OF THE COMMUNITY LEADERS JUST
YESTERDAY IN KAHANA. TO WORK OUT A WAY FORWARD.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU’VE GOT COMPETING INTERESTS.
YOU’VE GOT PARKS TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT.
YOU’VE GOT THE SIX. YOU’VE GOT THE OTHER 28.
WHO HAVE THE LEASE. NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
IT’S A COMPLICATED, COMPLICATE THE ISSUE.
SO I WAS ASKED TO INTRODUCE THE RESOLUTION.
I DID READ IT. I WOULD HAVE NEVER SAID I
DIDN’T READ IT.>>YOU SAID YOU DIDN’T READ
IT. SO I PUT IT IN.
AND IT BLEW UP, I IMMEDIATELY REALIZED THIS IS NOT GOING TO
SPARK A CONVERSATION. THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A
SHOUTING MATCH. BASED ON THAT, I WITHHELD THE
RESOLUTION. THERE WAS STILL MEMBERS IN THE
LEGISLATURE THAT WANTED TO PUSH IT.
AND I HELD IT BACK. I SAID, I RESPECTED THE
REQUEST OF THE SIX AND I SAID, LET’S TABLE THIS AND TRY TO GO
BACK AT IT BECAUSE I ALWAYS WORK COHESIVELY AND WITH
RESPECT FOR PEOPLE. I’M NOT BOMBASTICND.
I DON’T COME IN AND CLAIM THINGS.
I WORK FOR A SOLUTION.>>Yunji: I KNOW YOU BOTH FEEL
THAT YOU HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT IN YOUR HEART.
I WOULD LOVE IT IF YOU WOULD ASK EACH OTHER A QUESTION
WHERE ALMOST OUT OF TIME. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME
LEFT IN THE FEW MINUTES. WHAT DO YOU WANT VOTERS TO
HEAR FROM FORMER SENATOR HEE AND THEN WE’LL GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO ASK HIM A QUESTION.>>MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IF
YOUR HEART IS IN BEING IN THE SENATE, WHY HAVE YOU BEEN AT
NO COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
BEEN ABSOLUTELY MISSING IN ACTION.
YOU HAVEN’T BEEN IN ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
YOU WERE RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.
AND AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU SAID YOU CAN’T AFFORD,
ESSENTIALLY TO BUY THE GOVERNOR’S RACE.
CAN’T AFFORD TO COMPETE WITH THAT, SO SWITCH GEARS.
I’M CHALLENGING YOUR SINCERITY AND I’LL POINT OUT
THAT LAST NIGHT, I WAS AT KAHALUU NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD
MEETING I GO TO EVERY MONTH. SO SO:30.
HE WAS DOING A FUNDRAISER FOR $500 A PLATE.
SO YOU’RE RUNNING AROUND DOING FUNDRAISERS.
NOT GOING TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?>>I THINK IF YOU ASK PEOPLE,
THEY KNOW THAT I’VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
YOU OUGHT TO KNOW THAT THE KAHANA PEOPLE, I’VE BEEN
MEETING WITH THEM REGULARLY. THEY’RE THE ONES THAT TOLD ME.
I WAS THERE. THAT YOU DIDN’T READ THE RESO.
IN FACT, DARYL AT THE HOUSE, AT THE 94 ANNIVERSARY OF THE
KO’OLAULOA CIVIC CLUB AT HAUULA, BUT YOU WEREN’T THERE
AND I WAS THERE, DARYL TOLD ME OUTSIDE, HOW COME THE GUY
DEPARTMENT READ THE RESO? I SAID, HE READ THE RESO.
HE JUST SAID HE DIDN’T READ THE RESO.
SO BECAUSE I’M NOT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT YOU
MIGHT BE, DOESN’T MEAN I DON’T GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AFTER ALL,.>>NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD
MEETINGS. COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION
MEETINGS. NEVER SEE YOU.
NOBODY EVER SEES YOU.>>THAT PRESUMES THAT THOSE
ARE THE ONLY MEETINGS IN THE DISTRICT.
THAT’S NOT TRUE. THE YOU KNOW, I’VE BEEN TO
NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD MEETINGS. YOU’RE NOT THERE.
>>BUT I DON’T PLAY GOTCHA. THAT’S NOT WHAT I DO.
>>Yunji: WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION FOR HIM TONIGHT?
>>MY QUESTION FOR HIM IS, FOR A GUY WHO IS A PRO ADVOCATE OF
FOOD SECURITY, FOR A GUY WHO HAS ISSUED PROBLEMS OF STATE
GOVERNMENT, AS A MEMBER OF WAYS AND MEANS, DEFEND THE
POSITION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF AG FOR FOOD SECURITY HAS
RECEIVED LESS THAN 1% OF THE BUDGET, YOU SIT ON WAYS AND
MEANS. I’VE HEARD YOU SAY, WELL, I’M
IN THE MINORITY IN THE MAJORITY.
I CAN’T GET THINGS DONE. THE QUESTION IS, IN THE SIX
YEARS YOU’VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE, YOU PASSED
TWO BILLS. AS THE PRIMARY AUTHOR.
ONE HAD TO DO WITH CORPSES AND THE OTHER ONE HAD TO DO WITH
BURIALS. ABANDONED ANIMALS.
>>THE TWO.>>FOR AN AVERAGE, I GUESS, OF
SIX INTO TWO, LESS THAN ONE-THIRD OF A BILL PER YEAR,
YOU’VE BEEN IN OFFICE, ON THE OTHER HAND, I’VE BEEN
FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO MOVE 136 BILLS IN THE 16 YEARS I’VE
BEEN IN OFFICE. 8-AND-A-HALF BILLS A YEAR.
HOW IS IT THAT YOU’RE SO EFFECTIVE AS A MEMBER OF WAYS
AND MEANS UNABLE TO SOLVE THE ISSUES THAT YOU’VE BEEN
COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS EVENING?
>>I’M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT. I’M NOT, I HAVEN’T BEEN IN
GOVERNMENT FOR 40 YEARS OR FOUR DECADES OR HOWEVER LONG
YOU’VE BEEN IN AND OUT OF GOVERNMENT.
I GIVE YOU CREDIT. 28 YEARS.
YOU ARE THE CAREER POLITICIAN.
YOU’RE A POLITICIAN.>>AND A FARMER.
AND A FARMER. GIVE YOU THAT.
SO YOU’VE BEEN THERE. YOU’VE BEEN THERE A LOT LONGER
THAN I HAVE. I FIND THAT THERE IS A EQUAL
VALUE IN BLOCKING BAD IDEA. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE AIRB&B
BILLS TERRIBLE. I THINK COMMUNITY SERVICE AND
CONSTITUENT CONCERNS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT.
I THINK HAVING A METRIC THAT SAYS, I PASSED A LOT OF BILLS
ISN’T A CONTEXT TO THAT. WHERE IS THE SERVICE?
WHERE WERE YOU ON THE ISSUES OF MALAEKAHANA ISSUE FOR
EXAMPLE? THE DEVELOPMENT THERE?
WHERE ARE YOU ON THE COMMUNITY ISSUES SUCH AS THE SCOTT
WALLACE DEVELOPMENT OR THE WETLANDS IN HEEIA.
I’M SPENDING TIME IN THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATING FOR THE
PEOPLE, FOR THE ISSUES THAT ARE AFFECTING THEM ON A
DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. I’M NOT JUST SITTING UP ON THE
HIGH HORSE, IMPERIAL PALACE SAYING I’M A SENATOR PASSED
ALL OF THESE BILLS.>>FIVE YOU THAT BUT I DON’T
THINK THAT IS THE ONE STANDARD BY WHICH SOMEBODY SHOULD BE
MEASURED. THERE SHOULD BE STANDARDS,
WHETHER OR NOT YOU’VE DONE A GOOD JOB IS WHETHER OR NOT THE
PEOPLE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK AND WE WILL SEE IN 30 DAYS, WE
WILL SEE.>>7/10 TO 10/25.
AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARES EVERYBODY, GIL.
THAT’S YOU’RE JOB AS A LEGISLATOR.
RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE IS VERY DIFFICULT.
YOU NEED TO BE EFFECTIVE. YOU NEED TO WORK WITH PEOPLE.
BUT IF YOU’RE GOING TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
>>WORK WITH PEOPLE. THAT’S A FUNNY THING.
. HOW DO YOU PASS BILLS WITHOUT
WORKING WITH PEOPLE?>>I AM THE MOST COOPERATIVE
AND COHESIVE PERSON PROBLEM SOLVER.
>>THERE YOU GO AGAIN.>>Yunji: END ON A POSITIVE
NOTE HERE. I’LL ASK ONE FINAL QUESTION TO
EACH OF YOU IF YOU CAN TAKE ABOUT A MINUTE TO ANSWER IT.
WHAT IS THE THING IN THE DISTRICT THAT YOU LOVE ABOUT
AND WHAT IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THAT?
HOW DO YOU PROPOSE WORKING IN THE LEDGE TO PRESERVE WHAT YOU
LOVE ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE?>>WHAT I LOVE IS THE,
COMMUNITY AND THE RURAL NATURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
THE AGRICULTURAL LANDS ARE CONSERVATION LANDS ARE BASED,
IT’S THE WAY OF LIFE THAT WE EXPERIENCE.
WE ARE AS WE START THIS CONVERSATION, FEELING THE
STRAINS OF MAXIMUM VISITOR OVERLOAD.
SO THAT’S GOT TO BE ADDRESSED. WE’VE GOT, INADEQUATE
INFRASTRUCTURE. DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION
DOES NOT DO AS GOOD A JOB AS THEY SHOULD BE.
AND BASICALLY, I THINK THAT THE SENATOR NEEDS TO BE
WELCOMING TO EVERYBODY. SHOULDN’T BE DISMISSIVE.
SHOULDN’T BE BOMBASTIC OR ARROGANT WHEN THEY COME IN AND
HE DISAGREES WITH THEM. I THINK THE SENATOR HAS TO BE
THERE FOR THE PEOPLE AND BE IN THE COMMUNITY AND BE ACTIVE
AND BE A GOOD LISTENER AND REALLY HAVE THE HEART AND SOUL
FOR EVERYBODY IN THE DISTRICT.
NOT JUST THE SELECT FRIENDS.>>WHAT DO YOU LOVE ABOUT
WHERE YOU LIVE AND HOW DO YOU PROSE PRESERVING THAT IF YOU
GET TO GO BACK TO THE LEGISLATURE.
>>WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE DISTRICT, ARE THE PEOPLE.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE DISTRICT.
THEY’RE DYNAMIC PEOPLE. THEY ARE STRONG MINDED
PEOPLE. THEY’RE LOCAL PEOPLE.
THEY’RE PEOPLE THAT MOVE TO HAWAII.
THEY ALL WANT TO CONTRIBUTE. THEY’RE UNAFRAID TO CALL YOU.
THEY’REN AFRAID TO SHARE THEIR VIEWS.
AND I JUST, ENJOY THE PEOPLE. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE
WINDWARD SIDE, SO A LOT OF THE DISTRICTS, I GREW UP IN.
A LOT OF THE AREAS OF MY LIFE HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THE RANCHES
ON THE AREAS. I REALLY LIKE THE PEOPLE.
THAT, TO ME, IS NUMBER ONE ASSET OF THE DISTRICT.
AND WORKING WITH THEM IS A REAL PLEASURE FOR ME.
>>Yunji: OKAY. THANK YOU BOTH.
MAHALO FOR YOU TO YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THIS PORTION OF
INSIGHTS. THANK OUR GUESTS.
FORMER SENATOR CLAYTON HEE AND
SENATOR GIL RIVIERE. WE ARE GOING TO DO A QUICK
CHANGE AND WILL RETURN IN A FEW MINUTES TO HEAR FROM THE
CANDIDATES FOR HONOLULU CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 6. PLEASE
ENJOY THIS HIKI NO STORY BY ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL
STUDENTS. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK.
OVER 70 YEARS AGO, AFTER THE ATTACK PEARL HARBOR,
JAPANESE-AMERICANS CON FRONTED INTERESTING NATION.
IN 1943, 442ND, 100 BATTALION COMBAT REGIMENT AT TEAM,
FIRST EVER JAPANESE-AMERICAN MILITARY UNIT FORMED.
TED TSUKIYAMA FEW REMAINING NISEI VETERANS SHARES HIS
EXPERIENCE OF THE PRICE OF EQUALITY. THERE WAS A PRICE TO
PAY. BLOOD WAS SHED.
LIVES WERE LOST. AND ALL OF THAT IS BECAUSE THE
MOTIVATION IS, WE’VE GOT TO PROVE OUR LOYALTY.
>>SERVICE IN THE MILITARY, MR. TSUKIYAMA ENVISIONED THE
COUNTRY WERE WHERE ALL RACES COME TOGETHER.
THE LESSON IS THAT, WELL, YOU’VE HEAR THE PHRASE,
AMERICANISM. IS NOT A MATTER OF RACE, COLOR
ANCESTRY. AMERICANISM IS A MATTER OF
MIND, HEART, AND THE SPIRIT.>>HARD WORK AN SUCCESS OF THE
442ND MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR MORE JAPANESE-AMERICANS TO
ADVANCE IN THE U.S. SOCIETY.>>DARREL SHINSEKI, BECAME
THE FIRST JAPANESE-AMERICAN TO BE CHIEF ARMY CHIEF OF
STAFF. NUMBER ONE POSITION IN U.S.
ARMY. I GOT HERE.
STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF THOSE NISEI SOLDIERS.
HE KNOWS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE SACRIFICED SOMEBODY ELSE,
WORK HARD. .
TO THIS DAY, WORK AND THE VALUES OF THE 442ND STILL LIVE
IN THE HEARTS AND THE MINDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
MAJOR KIMURA OF ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL IS A SENIOR
INSTRUCTOR OF THE JROTC PROGRAM.
FROM SUPPORTER OF THE VALUES OF THE 442.
WORKING TOGETHER AND THAT FOCUS, AND THAT DISCIPLINE,
DROVE THEM TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF THINGS THAT OTHER UNITS
THAT DIDN’T HAVE THAT TYPE OF ADVERSITY, TO BIND THEM
TOGETHER, JUST FANTASTIC WHAT THEY WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
IN THAT VERY INTENSE SITUATION, TIME PERIOD OF OUR
HISTORY.>>MAJOR KIMURA VALUED LEGEND
OF THE 442 TO TEACH HIS CADET THE IMPORTANCE OF
COOPERATION.>>BRING THEM TO THE PROGRAM
IS TEAM BUILDING, TEAM BONDING, WORKING AS A TEAM,
ONE PERSON IS NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER.
IT’S A WHOLE TEAM CONCEPT. AND OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE
INDOCTRINATION BEST WAY, HONOR COUNTRY.
WE PUT IT HERE, HONOR COUNTRY AND ROOSEVELT.
LAST THING, I EACH ONE OF US HAS STRONG POINTS.
SOMETIMES, NEED SOME HELP IN SOME AREAS.
IF WE’RE WORKING TOGETHER, THAT’S THE IDEAL SITUATION.
MATSON WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH OUR PROGRAM HERE AT
ROOSEVELT.>>SOLDIER WITH A CAUSE, ARMY
INSTRUCTOR, FUTURE LEADERS OF OUR NATION, LEGACY OF THE
442ND LIVES ON. THIS IS ABIGAIL FOR ROOSEVELT
HIGH SCHOOL REPORTING FOR HIKI NO.
>>Yunji: ALOHA. WELCOME BACK FOR THE SECOND
HALF OF OUR INSIGHTS FORUM FEATURING FOUR CANDIDATES
RUNNING FOR SIXTH DISTRICT COUNCIL OF HONOLULU.
DISTRICT SIX INCLUDES PORTIONS OF MAKIKI, DOWNTOWN
HONOLULU, PUNCHBOWL, PAUOA VALLEY, NU’UANU, ALEWA
HEIGHTS, PAPAKOLEA, FORT SHAFTER, MOANALUA, HALAWA,
KALIHI VALLEY AND PORTIONS OF LILIHA AND KALIHI.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO EMAIL, CALL OR TWEET YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND YOU’LL FIND A LIVE STREAM OF THIS PROGRAM AT
PBSHAWAII.ORG AND THE PBS HAWAII FACEBOOK PAGE.
OUR PHONE VOLUNTEERS ARE HERE STICKING WITH US TILL 9:30
TONIGHT. PLEASE KEEP THEM BUSY.
NOW TO OUR GUESTS. OUR FIRST GUEST IS INCUMBENT
CAROL FUKUNAGA… A VETERAN LAWMAKER WHO WAS
FIRST ELECTED TO OFFICE IN 1978. SHE IS RUNNING FOR A
SECOND FOUR-YEAR TERM ON THE CITY COUNCIL. SHE GRADUATED
FROM ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT SIX, AND
SHE HAS A LAW DEGREE FROM UH MANOA.
OUR SECOND GUEST AND CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE IS
TYLER DOS SANTOS TAM. HE IS A PUNAHOU SCHOOL AND YALE
UNIVERSITY GRADUATE AND IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
HAWAI’I CONSTRUCTION ALLIANCE. TYLER’S FAMILY TREE
EXTENDS BACK GENERATIONS TO IMMIGRANTS WHO CAME TO HAWAII
FROM CHINA, THE PHILIPPINES AND THE PORTUGUESE ISLAND OF
MADEIRA IKAIKA HUSSEY IS OUR NEXT
CANDIDATE. HE IS THE CANDIDATE. HE IS THE
PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF SUMMIT MAGAZINE. HE IS AN
IOLANI SCHOOL GRADUATE AND HAS MASTER’S IN POLITICAL
SCIENCE FROM UH MANOA. HE ALSO SERVES ON THE KALIHI VALLEY
NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD. OUR FOURTH GUEST AND FINAL
CANDIDATE FOR THE 6TH CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT IS ZACK
STODDARD. HE IS A CITY PLANNER. HE IS ALSO ON THE
BOARD OF THE HAWAII GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE NUUANU/PUNCHBOWL
NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE. CARROLL, I WANT TO START WITH
YOU. WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE BIGGEST
CHALLENGE TO THE DISTRICT AND HOW WOULD YOU PROPOSE
ADDRESSING IT I THINK THE BIG ETS CHALLENGE IS THE FACT THAT
EACH OF THE DIFFERENT REGIONS IN THE DISTRICT IS VERY
UNIQUE. AS YOU RAN THROUGH THE VARIOUS
DESCRIPTIONS OF THE VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK
TYPICALLY, IN MANY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS
NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU MAY HAVE A MUCH MORE HOMOGENEOUS KIND OF
GROUPING. FOR EXAMPLE, THE MILILANI
AREA IS PRETTY MUCH A RANGE OF HOMES AND MILILANI WHERE MANY
OF THE CONCERNS ARE VERY UNIQUE TO THAT AREA.
BUT THEY DON’T NECESSARILY HAVE A VERY DIVERSE FLOW
WHEREAS IN DISTRICT 6, WE HAVE HIGHRISES IN KAKOU, OLDER
CONDOS IN MAKIKI PUNCHBOWL. SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOODS IN LILIHA OR ACROSS THE WAY IN AIEA OR
HALAWA VALLEY. SO I VIEW THAT AS ONE OF THE
BIGGEST CHALLENGES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST STRENGTHS
BECAUSE EACH NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRULY DIFFERENT AND SPECIAL
WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE, IT REALLY IS VERY
REWARDING EXPERIENCE.>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND HOW DO YOU PROPOSE ADDRESSING IT?
>>AFFORDABLE. THE THING THAT I HEARD FROM
THE RESIDENTS IN OUR DISTRICT VERY DIVERSE HETEROGENOUS
GROUP. FEELING THAT HONOLULU IS
SLIPPING AWAY FROM US. LOCALS ARE BEING PRICED OUT OF
THE PLACE THAT WE GREW UP IN. JUST LAST YEAR, 7,000 PEOPLE
LEFT HONOLULU. LEFT OAHU.
BECAUSE OF THE COST OF LIVING. THAT’S A NUMBER THAT SHOULD
GIVE US ALL PAUSE. REFLECTED IN A RANGE OF
STATISTICS, UNEMPLOYMENT ON THE STREETS IN TERMS OF
HOMELESSNESS. SEE IT IN THE DAILY STRESSES
THAT WORKING PEOPLE HAVE IN MAKING RENT, PAYING THEIR
MORTGAGE, TAKING CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN, TAKING CARE
OF THEIR GRANDPARENTS. VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR A LOT
OF LOCAL PEOPLE.>>Yunji: TYLER, WHAT DO YOU
THINK IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND HOW WOULD YOU
ADDRESS THAT?>>BORN AND RAISED IN THE
DISTRICT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOCK ON DOORS
AND GETTING TO KNOW VOTERS FROM ACROSS OUR GREAT
DISTRICT THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I SEE AND HERE ABOUT
HOMELESSNESS. ISSUE CONTINUES TO VEX OUR
CITY AND GET WORSE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS ADOPT ALL
OF THE ABOVE APPROACH ON THAT ISSUE.
AND THAT MEANS IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS ON THAT.
CAN BE WIDE RANGING. WHETHER IT’S SAFE ZONES OHANA
ZONES TALKED ABOUT, AND IT ALSO GOES TO CREATING MORE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ESPECIALLY IN THE SORT OF
HOUSING FIRST MODEL TO GET FOLKS WHO ARE JUST ON THE
VERGE OF HOMELESSNESS, OR LOSING THEIR HOUSING
SITUATION INTO A STABLE ENVIRONMENT THAT’S REALLY
KEY. FOR THE FOLKS ON THE STREETS
FOR A VERY LONG TIME, GETTING THEM TO A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN
HAVE THAT STABLE ENVIRONMENT AND CAN START TO BETTER THEIR
SITUATION. WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE NOT
DONE ENOUGH ON THE HOMELESS ISSUE.
REFLECTED IN STREAM, VALLEYS, RIDGE, THROUGHOUT OUR PARKS.
SEE HOMELESS FOLKS. WE FEEL VERY SORRY FOR THEM,
WE NEED TO DO MORE. THAT’S THE ISSUE THAT I THINK
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AS THE CITY IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>THANK YOU.
I GOT TO AGREE THAT IT’S COST OF LIVING AS WELL.
THAT’S CLOSELY TIED IN WITH HOMELESSNESS.
YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK OUR POLITICIANS ARE REALLY DOING
ENOUGH TO HELP OUT OUR STRUGGLING WORKING CLASS.
THE COST OF LIVING IS INCREASING TWICE AS FAST AS
WAGES. 48% OF HAWAII RESIDENT ARE
STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET. I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS
THAT THE INFLUENCE OF MONEY AND POLITICS REALLY SHIFTS
POLICY IN FAVOR OF THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PAY AND
DONATE TO POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.
I’M THE ONLY CANDIDATE HERE RUNNING CLEAN CAMPAIGN.
NOT TAKING ANY DONATIONS WHATSOEVER.
I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPRESENT
THEMSELVES BASED ON THEIR VOTES AS ACCIDENTS RATHER
THAN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THEIR POCKET AS CITIZENS.
I THINK WE SEE THE INFLUENCE OF MONEY IN THE POLICIES AND
IN DIRECTION THAT OUR POLITICIANS ARE GOING.
NOT ENOUGH, NEARLY ENOUGH BEING DONE TO LOWER THE COST
OF LIVING. WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN OUR
AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS.
WE NEED TO CURB REAL ESTATE SPECULATION.
THAT’S SOMETHING THAT NO OTHER POLITICIAN I KNOW OF HAS
BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE OUR
TAXATION SYSTEM A LOT MORE PROGRESSIVE.
WE HAVE THE SECOND HIGHEST TAX RATE OUT OF ANY STATE IN THE
WHOLE COUNTRY FOR LOW INCOME PEOPLE.
AT 13.4%. WHICH IS TOTALLY INSANE TO ME.
ANY PLACE WHERE IT’S ALREADY SO EXPENSIVE TO MAKE IT.
>>Yunji: YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE LIKE TO SAY WE LET VIEWERS DRIVE THE
CONVERSATION. PEOPLE WRITE AND CALLING IN.
WHAT NEW IDEAS WILL YOU IMPLEMENT TO HELP PROTECT THE
PUBLIC INCREASED ATTACKS BY THE HOMELESS ON DRUGS OR
MILLENIAL. WE HAVE SEEN THE POINT IN TIME
COUNT, OR MENTALLY ILL. I HAVE HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE
DISTRICT DOWNTOWN. THERE ARE THOSE FOLKS VERY
HARD TO REACH. WHAT NEW IDEAS DO YOU HAVE?
>>THINK THAT I’M MOST EXCITED ABOUT IS THE NEW PARTNERSHIP
THAT WE HELPED ESTABLISH BETWEEN HONOLULU POLICE
DEPARTMENT. CHIEF BALLARD NEW PRIORITIES
TO GET MORE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET.
MOST PEOPLE DID NOT REALIZE THAT UP TILL NOW, MANY
HONOLULU DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING AT LESS
THAN FULL CAPACITY. SO SHE CAME UP PUBLICLY THIS
YEAR AND SAID, WE CANNOT AFFORD TO OPERATE AT 60%
CAPACITY WHEN MANY OF THE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS DEMAND
POLICE OFFICERS ON THE BEAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ALL THE
TIME. SO PART OF HER INITIATIVER WAS
TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS, PROVIDE
MENTAL HEALTH TRAINING FOR HER OFFICERS AND HAVE A LOT
MORE HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN
ESPECIALLY HEARTENING IS THAT THE MEDICAL PROFESSION HAS
REALLY COME TO THE RESCUE AND HPD AND H4, WHICH IS HEALTH
CARE ALLIANCE, THAT HAS BEEN RECENTLY ADOPTED, SET UP A
MEDICAL CLINIC RIGHT IN THE DAN VIEW BUILDING.
WITHIN JUST A FEW MONTHS, THIS IS BETWEEN APRIL AND JUNE,
THEY HAVE BEEN OPEN ONLY 3 DAYS A WEEK BUT THEY HAVE
ACTUALLY SEEN OVER 400 PEOPLE AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HELP
THOSE FOLKS KIND OF COME INTO A SPACE WHERE THEY CAN BE
TREATED, IF THEY HAVE MENTAL HEALTH OR OTHER KINDS OF
ISSUES, THESE ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WHO CAN
ACTUALLY HELP THEM AND DIRECT THEM INTO MORE APPROPRIATE
KIND OF CARE AND TREATMENT. THE INITIAL RESPONSES THEY
HAVE SEEN SO FAR HAVE BEEN SO OVERWHELMINGLY POSITIVE,
THAT WE’RE NOW LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS WE ARE
CAN SET UP SOME OF THESE KINDS OF CLINICS AND ASSIST PEOPLE
IN GETTING OFF THE STREETS. I THINK IT’S REALLY THE
COMBINATION OF HPD ON ONE HAND AND PHYSICIAN AND MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ON THE OTHER WHICH CAN HELP TAKE BACK
OUR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.>>Yunji: YOU BROUGHT UP THIS
AS THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IN THE DISTRICT.
>>IN ADDITION TO SOLVING SHORTAGE OF POLICE OFFICERS,
I THINK LAST MONTH, IN THE NEWS, 250 OFFICERS SHORT.
I THINK IS OUTRAGEOUS. OUR RECRUITS KEEP GETTING
POACHED BY MAINLAND, MUNICIPALITIES LIKE OAKLAND
AND SEATTLE. NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB
PROVIDING POLICE FORCE WITH THE RESOURCES AND TRAINING
THEY NEED TO ADEQUATELY DEAL WITH HOMELESS POPULATION.
ONE AREA WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ESPECIALLY FOR THE MENTALLY
ILL MAKING SURE THEY HAVE MEDICATION TO THE MEDICATIONS
THEY NEED. I DOUBT THAT A LOT OF THE
HOMELESS WHO NEED SORT OF MEDICATION ARE GOING WAIT IN
LINE AT LONG’S TO PICK UP THEIR MEDICATION.
WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MEETING THEM WHERE THEY ARE
AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO NOT OPEN THE
PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS BUT ALSO HEALTH CARE, AS YOU WALK
THROUGH DOWNTOWN OR CHINATOWN, YOU SEE SO MANY
HOMELESS FOLKS WITH INFECTIONS ON THEIR LEGS.
HORRIBLE SITUATION. MOBILE MEDIC TEAM, THINGS
LIKE THAT, WE CAN START TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE INSTEAD OF
HAVING THEM TO GO TO QUEEN’S AND $800 AMBULANCE RIDE A LOT
CHEAPER INTERVENTIONS THAT DO MORE TO IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY
OF LIFE. AND THEIR HEALTH.
>>Yunji: WE CAN’T FORCE THESE FOLKS INTO CARE.
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS?>>SO I THINK WHAT BOTH OF YOU
SAID, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO INVEST
IN OUR POLICE OFFICERS. BUT WHAT WE’RE, SO THERE’S A
RECENT LONGITUDE, HARVARD. SAID PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE
STREET EXHIBITING SIGNS OF MENTAL ILLNESS AND WHO END UP
IN DRUGS, ABUSE, SITUATIONS, THEY ACTUALLY BECAME HOMELESS
BECAUSE OF ECONOMICS CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND WHAT THAT SIGNALS FOR ME, WE NEED TO SOLVE THE
SYMPTOMATIC EXPRESSION OF HOMELESSNESS BUT WE ALSO NEED
TO VERY AGGRESSIVELY WORK TO ADDRESS THE CORE ECONOMIC
PROBLEM. WHICH IS THAT HOUSING FAR TOO
EXPENSIVE HERE. AND THERE’S PEOPLE THAT ARE
CURRENTLY HOUSELESS. AND THERE’S A RECENT STUDY
THAT SAID THAT THE CLEAR CORRELATION BETWEEN DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND HOMELESS, IT’S WOMEN FLEEING ABUSIVE
FAMILIES THAT END UP ON THE STREET AND BECAUSE OF THE HIGH
COST OF LIVING, CAN’T FIND THEIR OWN PLACE TO LIVE.
BUT WE, SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
THAT ROOT PROBLEM.>>Yunji: I KNOW YOU BROUGHT
THAT UP AS WELL. BEFORE WE LET YOU ANSWER THAT,
WE WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE SOUND TONIGHT.
OVER SIX WEEKS, ON SUNRISE, FEATURED
ON INSIGHTS. RESIDENTS ISSUES AFFECTING
THEM. ISSUE CITED BY OAHU RESIDENTS
LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE INCREASE IN VACATION
RENTALS PARTICULARLY ILLEGAL ONES.
QUICK SAMPLE OF WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.
>>REALITY IS WE KNOW THAT WE NEED AT LEAST 25,000 MORE
UNITS BY 2035. WE’RE SHORT THAT MUCH.
WE WANT TO MAKE THAT MANY. WE HAVE MORE ILLEGAL SHORT
TERM RENTALS RIGHT NOW THAN THAT NUMBER OPERATING IN THE
NEIGHBORHOODS. WITH THE NOISE.
I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE VACATIONING LIVING NEXT TO
YOU, HAVING PARTIES, INVITING ALL OF THEIR FRIENDS, AND
WEDDINGS, MAKING NOISE. I BLAME OUR GOVERNMENT FOR NOT
LOOKING AT IT STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THEY JUST FUMBLE AROUND AND DON’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT
IDENTIFYING WHERE THE ILLEGALS ARE.
AND ENFORCING IT.>>Yunji: OKAY.
ZACH, WHAT DO YOU THINK? VACATION RENTAL ISSUE HAS
BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE NOW. IT ONLY SEEMS TO BE GETTING
WORSE. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO FIX IT AND
HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EQUATION?
>>THAT’S A HUGE PART OF IT. I DON’T THINK CITY COUNCIL HAS
DONE ENOUGH AT ALL TO CURB THIS PROBLEM.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
PERMITTING HAS PROPOSED SOLUTION WHEREBY TRANSIENT
VACATION UNITS AIRB&B HOUSES TO BE WILL BE GIVEN
CERTIFICATE TO OPERATE THAT LEGALLY.
IF THOUGH DON’T HAVE THAT CERTIFICATE ON THEIR
ADVERTISEMENT, THEY CAN BE SHUTDOWN.
I THINK THAT’S AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
WHICH REALLY TAKES TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LONGTERM HOUSING
UNITS OFF THE MARKET FOR REGULAR HAWAII RESIDENTS.
YOU KNOW, OTHER ISSUES I THINK THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
REDUCE THE COST OF LIVING, WE HAVE SOME PRETTY I WANT TO SAY
WEEK. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS
AFFORDABLE HOUSING BILL THAT I RECENTLY PASSED CITY
COUNCIL, AND IT’S A GOOD START.
BUT I’M GOING TO SAY IT’S A LITTLE TOO WEAK.
BASICALLY, REQUIRED 5% OF ALL NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS TO
BE AFFORDABLE. WHAT IS AFFORDABLE IS NOT
ALWAYS TRULY AFFORDABLE. STRETCHES THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
MAKING UP TO 6 FIGURE INCOMES. AND I THINK THAT’S A PART OF
THE PROBLEM. NEED TO STRENGTHEN THAT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT TO 15 OR 20% LIKE
IT IS IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES. NEED TO MAKE SURE AFFORDABLE
IS TRULY DEFINED AS AFFORDABLE.
AND THEN ALSO, ADDRESSING THIS TRANSIENT VACATION UNIT
ISSUE AND YOU KNOW, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO OPERATE BED &
BREAKFASTS IF THEY’RE LIVING IN THE HOUSE, AND RENTING OUT
ROOMS, IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THEIR MORTGAGE, I THINK
THAT’S ACCEPTABLE. BUT YOU KNOW, TAKING HOUSING
OFF THE MARKET FOR REGULAR EVERY DAY FOLKS, IS PART OF
THE REASON WHY COSTS ARE BEING DRIVEN UP SO HIGH.
>>Yunji: YOU HEARD DENY FAWCETT SAYING GOVERNMENT
FAIL US. WHAT IS GOVERNMENT DOING TO
HELP GET THIS ISSUE UNDER CONTROL.
>>FROM THE CITY COUNCIL END, WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING VERY HARD AND
WE’VE BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED WITH LACK OF ENFORCEMENT.
TOTALLY AGREE THAT IN MANY INSTANCES, ILLEGAL VACATION
RENTALS ARE A PRODUCT OF A LOOK OF ENFORCEMENT.
SO TO ME, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT’S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
TO TACKLE. HOVER, ONE GOOD THING THAT
HAPPENS THIS YEAR WAS THAT MANY RESIDENTS FROM AROUND
THE ISLAND AND I KNOW TYLER HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THIS
ISSUE ALSO, IS BEGAN TO WORK WITH THE CITY COUNCIL
DIRECTLY ON THE ISSUE OF MONSTER HOMES.
AND THESE ARE INSTANCES OF POTENTIALLY COULD BE ILLEGAL
VACATION RENTALS WHERE PROPERTIES IN OLDER SINGLE
FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE BEING SOLD.
THEY’RE BEING RENOVATED OR THEY’RE BEING TORN DOWN AND
THE WAY THAT THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON THEM
ARE BEING DEVELOPED, THEY’RE EXPLOITING LOOSE REGULATORY
FRAMEWORKS THAT THE CITY HAS SO THAT’S STRUCTURES THAT ARE
BEING DEVELOPED ARE ACTUALLY THE EQUIVALENT OF APARTMENT
BUILDINGS IN SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO THE POSITIVE THING WAS THAT THIS YEAR, WE HAD MORE THAN
EVER INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS CONTACTING US THROUGHOUT OAHU
KAIMUKI, KAPAHULU. HALAWA, KAM HEIGHTS.
PACIFIC HEIGHTS. WHAT WE HAVE FOUND
ENFORCEMENT LEVEL HAS BEEN SO LOW, THAT THERE WASN’T REALLY
ANY TRUE ENFORCEMENT BEING DONE FROM THE COUNCIL PASSED
MORATORIUM ON THE ISSUANCE OF ANY FURTHER BUILDING PERMITS.
AND TO ENSURE THAT WE PROVIDE ADEQUATE ENFORCEMENT TOOLS,
CITY COUNCIL INCREASED STAFFING AND THE RESOURCES
FOR THE DEPARTMENT, AND WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER BILL WHICH
WOULD INSTILL NEW PENALTIES THROW BACK TO PERIODS BEFORE
THE MORATORIUM IS PASSED, IF WE FIND THAT DIFFERENT
CONTRACTORS ARE ACTUALLY FLAUNTING THE CITY’S
REGULATORY LAWS. LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THAT
HDIA HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN REPORTING CONTRACTORS TO
HIOSH, TO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER
OF INSTANCES WHERE WE SAID, IF THESE CONTRACTORS ARE REALLY
EXPLOITING LOOPHOLES, SHOULDN’T WE REQUIRE THE
STRUCTURES TO BE DEMOLISHED OR TORN DOWN?
SO FAR, WE CAN’T SEEM TO GET THE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE ONE WAY
OR THE OTHER. SO WE PROVIDED THE RESOURCES.
I THINK NOW, IT’S A CONCERT THE COMMUNITY EFFORT TO
ENSURE THAT WE ENFORCE THE LAWS WE HAVE, IF THEY’RE NOT
STRONG ENOUGH, WE ACTUALLY NEED TO INCREASE THE
PENALTIES.>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THAT? CHAD WRITING IN.
WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION TO MONSTER HOMES?
ONE HAND, NEED FOR MORE HOUSING.
IDEA OF HAVING APARTMENT BUILDING POPPING UP IS NOT
NECESSARILY A BAD THING. NOBODY WANTS ONE NECESSARILY
IN A SMALL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
>>ISSUE HERE WITH BOTH TRANSIENT VACATION RENTALS
AND THE MONSTER HOME ISSUE WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND WHAT
SORT OF BUILDINGS DO WE WANT IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY?
SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH LIMITED PARKING, AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE, OBVIOUSLY, WE’LL BE STRAINED WITH 20
BEDROOMS OR MORE IN A HOME AND 20 VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT.
ALL DAY LONG. WHETHER IT’S FROM RESIDENTS
OF MONSTER HOME OR PEOPLE VACATIONING IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. IT DOES COME COME DOWN TO
ENFORCEMENT. CITY NEEDS TO BE MORE
AGGRESSIVE NOT ONLY GOING AFTER PEOPLE WHO OWN THESE
BUILDINGS BUT ALSO KIND OF ENABLING THEM.
THERE’S A WHOLE NETWORK OF REALTORS AND CONTRACTORS AND
ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS THAT THROUGHOUT THE THIS ISLAND,
ARE BUILDING THESE MONSTER HOMES AND SELLING THEM FOR
PROFIT AND USING IT TO BRING CASH FROM ELSEWHERE TO TAKE
THEIR MONEY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
THAT’S AN ISSUE WE REALLY NEED TO BE FOCUSED IN ON.
IN ADDITION, THERE’S OF ADDITION TO THE ZONING ISSUE,
THERE’S ALSO LABOR ISSUES, INSURANCE ISSUES, BUILDING
CODE AND POWER SAFETY ISSUES. NEED TO GET ALL OF THESE
APARTMENTS TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM.
THAT’S WHY I’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT INTERAGENCY TASK FORCE
FOR A VERY LONG TIME. BRING ALL THE REGULATORY
AGENCIES TOGETHER. THEY’RE NOT TACKLING MONDAY
STOCKHOLDER HOME ISSUE. IN A DISJOINTED WAY.
CAN COORDINATE THEIR EFFORTS AND HOPEFULLY STOP THE
PROLIFERATION OF MONSTER HOMES BEFORE THEY GET THEIR
PERMIT AND START GETTING UNDERWAY.
>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT IDEA OF TEARING THEM
>>ABSOLUTELY. WE NEED TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE
PENALTIES AN THAT IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, WILLINGLY, YOU KNOW,
YOU WILL GET CAUGHT AND WE CAN’T LET THIS SLIDE.
I THINK OUR CITY HAS LET A LOT OF THINGS SLIDE FOR A VERY
LONG TIME. WE NEED TO BE VERY FIRM IN THIS
AREA. IT’S VERY DISRUPTIVE TO OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE THIS PROLIFERATION OF MONSTER
HOMES AND VACATION RENTALS.>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON
THAT? DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE
TORN DOWN.>>I THINK THAT ENFORCEMENT IS
VERY IMPORTANT. BOTH FOR TVR ISSUE AS WELL AS
FOR MONSTER HOMES. I THINK THAT MONSTER HOMES IS
A SYMPTOM OF A GREATER PROBLEM WHICH IS PEOPLE NEED HOUSING.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT IF WE AGREE
THAT MONSTER HOMES ARE BAD, WHAT ARE THE GOOD HOMES THAT
WE WANT? WHERE DO WE WANT HOUSING TO BE
BUILT WITH THE APPROPRIATE DENSITY?
HOW DO WE SHIFT THE DEVELOPMENT ENERGY WE’RE
EXPERIENCING IN LILIHA OR PAHOA OR KALIHI VALLEY AND PUT
THEM WHERE IT BELONGS, IN THE HEART OF OUR CITY.
I THINK THAT’S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US TO FIND SOME REAL
SOLUTIONS FOR THE LONGTERM GROWTH OF OUR ISLAND.
LONGTERM DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>>Yunji: WE DON’T NECESSARILY WANT TO ASK EACH OF YOU ALL THE
SAME QUESTION. ON ONE, I THINK WE WANT TO GET
YOUR POSITION. NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
RAIL. JUST BRIEFLY, TELL US WE’LL
START WITH YOU. WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON RAIL
AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS?
>>SURE. I THINK RAIL NEEDS TO BE
COMPLETED. I’M IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND I THINK IT PRESENTS REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR
URBAN CORE. AND ALONG THE RAIL CORRIDOR
NEAR RAIL STATIONS. THAT GOES BACK TO THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT.
IF ONLY 5% OF THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THOSE AREAS ARE GOING TO BE
AFFORDABLE AND NOT ACTUALLY TRULY AFFORDABLE, WE’RE GOING
TO HAVE PROBLEMS FOR THE LONGTERM.
DECADES TO COME. WE NEED STRONGER AFFORDABLE
HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. STRONGER REQUIREMENTS ENSURE
THAT THE AREAS ARE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEED HOUSING
AND MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY, THEY HAVE
SMART DESIGN TO THE CITY THERE, THAT IS GOING TO BE
MORE EFFICIENT, ALLOW FOR MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION,
WALKING BIKING, YEAH. I’M IN SUPPORT OF IT PRESENTS
REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY. LOOKING FORETO REALIZING
THAT.>>HOW DO WE PAY FOR RAIL?
DO YOU SUPPORT.>>ABSOLUTELY.
TAKES THE BUS, RIDES MY BAKE, BIG BELIEVER IN PUBLIC
TRANSPORTATION. WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE
PROJECT NOT ONLY TO ALA MOANA BUT TO UNIVERSITY OF HAWAII AT
MANOA. I THINK THERE’S TWO AREAS WE
NEED TO REALLY DIVE IN AND CONTROL THE COUNTY OF.
MY BACKGROUND IS IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
SO IF I’M ELECTED, I LOOK FORWARD TO ASKING TOUGH CAN
QUESTIONS. CONTRACTORS AND AND EXAMINING
CHANGE ORDERS AND ASKING OUR ENGINEERS, WHY ARE WE DOING IT
THIS WAY OR THAT WAY. AND SO WITH THE UPCOMING CITY
CENTER GUIDEWAY AND STATIONS PACKAGE, I THINK THERE ARE
OPPORTUNITIES TO PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP
TO MINIMIZE FINANCIAL RISK TO THE CITY AND I THINK THERE ARE
ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT THAT CITY
HAS TO COMMIT TOP RESERVATIONS AND
MAINTENANCE. ONE OF THE AREAS THERE THAT I
THINK CITY FAILED DO THUS FAR IS MODEL, THIS MANY CITIES,
ALASKA AND CANADA HAVE DONE, WE SAY THAT THE EXISTING TAX
BASE DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT
GOING IN AROUND THE RAIL STATION END UP DOING THAT WE
NEED TO SET UP THE LEGAL STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO CAPTURE
THAT ADDED VALUE. ON THE MAINLAND, TAX
FINANCING DISTRICT. REALLY, THAT’S THE WAY OF
CAPTURING THE ADDED VALUE FROM THE NEW DISTRICT IT’S AN
PUTTING THAT INTO A LOCK BOX AND USING THAT FOR OPERATION
AN MAINTENANCE RATHER THAN ASKING EXISTING TAX BASE TO
FOOT THE BILL MOVINGFORD.>>Yunji: SO MUCH OF THE FOCUS
HAS BEEN ON COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF.
WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS AS WELL, WE ARE GOING TO BE
OPERATING AT A DEFICIT. AT LEAST NUMBERS ARE CORRECT.
>>THERE’S STILL NO FIRM PLAN FOR HOW WE’RE GOING TO PAY FOR
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. THAT’S WHY I THINK IT’S GOING
TO BE INCUMBENT UPON THE NEXT SET OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO
FIGURE THAT OUT. AND REALLY TO DIVE DEEP AND
MAKE SURE THAT THE PLAN THAT WE DO EVENTUALLY ADOPT IS ONE
THAT’S SOUND AND CAN CARRY US FORWARD.
>>Yunji: DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT?
WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM NOW AND LATER.
I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE RESIDENTS.
RAIL, VERY FRUSTRATING. WE’RE VERY CLOSE TO ACTUALLY
ECONOMIC AND DESIGN FAILURE WITH RAIL.
WITH THAT SAID, I DO SUPPORT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO IS TO CHANGE OUR
STRATEGY AS WE APPROACH THE CITY CENTER AREA.
I WOULD LIKE US GO DIRECTLY TO THE UNIVERSITY.
ON A MAUKA ELEVATION.>>Yunji: ACTUALLY CHANGE THE
COURSE OF THE LINE.>>CHANGE THE COURSE.
EXACTLY. PART OF IT IS THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE ACTUALLY A VERY REAL THING AND WE’RE BUILDING A
SYSTEM THAT NEEDS TO LAST FOR DECADES.
WE’RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON IT.
IT SHOULD LAST A LONG TIME. BUT CLIMATE CHANGE IS AROUND
THE CORNER. AREA THAT RAIL IS CURRENTLY
BEING DESIGNED AND CONSTRUCTED OR WHERE THEY
WANT TO CONSTRUCT IT IN, HANDFUL OF THE STATIONS ARE
WITHIN SCIENTISTS ARE CALLING THE SEA LEVEL RISE EXPOSURE
AREA.>>Yunji: WHAT YOU’RE
PROPOSING COULD COST EVEN BILLIONS MORE THAN WE’RE
SO WHAT I AM APROPOSING, AND — PROPOSING AND ON MY
WEBSITE, YOU CAN LOOK AT, IS UNDERGROUND.
ACTUALLY THINK IT’S CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN.
BECAUSE WHEN WE’RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THROUGH
HONOLULU, WE ALL REMEMBER HOW BAD IT WAS IN PEARL CITY AND
AIEA AND WAIPAHU, INCONVENIENCES TO OUR
COMMUNITY, TO ALL OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS.
JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. IN HONOLULU.
IN THE URBAN CENTER. THE IMPACT THE GOING TO HAVE
ON OUR ABILITY TO DROP OFF THE KIDS AT SCHOOL, TO GOT GROCERY
STORE, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE USE THE TO DOING, GOING
TO BE MUCH MORE INCONVENIENT WITH THE ELEVATED GUIDEWAY
BEING BUILT. NOT TO MENTION THE FACT WE
KNOW WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL DECADES, WE’RE GOING TO RAISE
LEVEL OF ROADWAYS IN KAKAAKO. IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE TO
INVEST $10 BILLION, LET’S SAY, BILLION DOLLARS, AND
AREA WHICH WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE UNDERWATER.
>>Yunji: WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THAT?
DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD UNDERGROUND AND GENERALLY,
WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON RAIL ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO ABLE TO
AFFORD THIS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
GREAT QUESTION. BECAUSE THIS POINT, THE RAIL
TRANSIT AGENCY IS FINALLY PURSUING SOME OF THE
PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT SOME OF US ON THE COUNCIL
HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
I THINK THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING WAY OF DISTRIBUTING
SOME OF THE COSTS, THAT’S ONE APPROACH.
WE HAVE ALSO URGED THAT WE USE EXISTING LAWS WHICH WOULD
ALLOW THE CITY TO ESTABLISH COMMUNITY FACILITIES
DISTRICTS IN WHICH THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREAS
ADJACENT TO THE ROUTES WOULD PAY FOR HIGHER PROPERTY TAX TO
HELP COVER SOME OF THE COSTS OF BOTH INFRASTRUCTURE AS
WELL AS LONGTERM REDEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD ALSO BENEFIT IF THEY ARE ABLE
TO DEVELOP IN WAYS THAT THEY COULDN’T DEVELOP CURRENTLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID IN SAN FRANCISCO, WHEN
THEY DEVELOPED THE NEW TRANCE SPACE CENTER, WAYS TO
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. LOW INCOME HOUSING.
CREATED NEW DESIGN FOR A PARK THAT COULD BE ENJOYED BY THE
RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS IN THAT AREA.
SO I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS THAT
WE HAVEN’T FULLY EXPLORED. I’M GLAD THAT THE HART BOARD
IS NOW EXPLORING THAT. THAT BEING SAID, HOWEVER, I DO
THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CREATIVE IN LOOKING AT
PERHAPS A WIDER RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES IF IT TURNS OUT
THAT THE CLIMATE CHANGE REPORT, WHICH WE’RE EXPECTING
TO RECEIVE THIS YEAR, SHOWS THAT THERE MAY BE MORE RISKY
HAZARDS THAT WE HAVEN’T REALLY FACTORED INTO THE
EQUATION. SO IF RAIL IS GOING TO
PROCEED, I SUPPORT RAIL. I THINK WE ALL HAVE TO TAKE A
CLOSER LOOK AT HOW TO MAKE WORK AND HOW TO MAKE IT
SUSTAINABLE.>>Yunji: WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
BIG BUDGET ITEMS HERE. A LOT OF WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL
DOES IS REALLY STUFF THAT AFFECTS US ON A DAY-TO-DAY.
TRASH PICKUP. WE WANT OUR TRASH PICKED UP ON
TIME ON NOT SO MANY POTHOLE ON OUR ROADS.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTS SHOULD PAY A SPECIFIC FEE FOR
TRASH PICK UP WHAT ABOUT BULKY ITEM FEE.
SOMETHING PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE.
>>ON THE QUESTION OF FEES FOR TRASH COLLECTION, I CAN TELL
YOU THAT THAT ONE ISSUE HAS PROBABLY GENERATED MORE
OPPOSITION CALLS THAN ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT WE’VE DELTA
WITH. PART OF REASON IS THAT I
REPRESENT AREA WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING THAT
IS ALREADY OCCURRING. SO IF YOU TALK TO RESIDENTS ON
MAKIKI TANTALUS, TALK TO RESIDENTS BACK OF KALIHI
VALLEY, LILIHA AND OTHER AREAS, MANY RESIDENTS ARE
CONCERNED IS WE ESTABLISHED FEES FOR TRASH COLLECTIONS
MORE ILLEGAL DUMPING WILL OCCUR.
IF YOU COULD TELL PEOPLE THAT THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN, AND
THAT SERVICES WOULD ACTUALLY GET BETTER, MAYBE THERE’S A
CHANCE FOR US TO CONSIDER SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BUT I THINK THAT’S GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE COORDINATION
WITH BOTH THE UNION EMPLOYEES THAT ARE INVOLVED,
DEPARTMENTS AND MAYBE COMING UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS TO
STRETCH OUR DOLLARS AND MAKE SERVICES BETTER WHILE LOOKING
AT WHETHER OR NOT FEES WOULD BE APPROPRIATE WAY TO GO.
>>Yunji: I MEAN, WE ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THIS IN
ESSENCE. THESE ARE OUR TAX DOLLARS
COVERING THE SERVICE. MATTER OF ADDING THAT EXTRA.
>>ACTUALLY, INTERESTING MARKET OPPORTUNITY.
WHEN WE’RE TALKING ABOUT BULKY ITEMS.
WE SHOULD TAKE A PAGE FROM THE WAY WE HANDLE RECYCLABLES.
FIVE CENTS REDEMPTION. IS IT STILL?
>>Yunji: I BELIEVE SO.>>BUT IMAGINE IF WERE TO TAKE
A FEE, TACK IT ON AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE, AND YOU ALLOW
THAT FEE TO BE REDEEMED BY THE PERSON WHO IS PROBABLY USING
MATTRESS, USING REFRIGERATOR, TAKING IT TO A
DESIGNATED REDEMPTION FACILITY OR LEAVE IT ON SIDE
OF THE ROAD AND SOMEONE CAN PICK IT UP.
>>Yunji: I DON’T KNOW. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PRETTY CHAOTIC IF EVERYONE IS
LEAVING MATTRESS ON THE ROAD TO COLLECT THE 5 BUCKS.
>>I WOULD SAY IT’S VERY CHAOTIC NOW.
MATTRESSES ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD NOW.
THERE’S NO MARKET INCENTIVE FOR SOMEONE TO GO AND DEAL
WITH THAT MATTRESS. SO I SAY IF YOU CREATE THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ENTERPRISING YOUNG GUY OR GALLON WHO HAS A
PICK-UP TRUCK, WANTS TO MAKE 20 BUCKS, 100 BUCKS, THEY CAN
GO AND DO IT THEMSELVES. THERE WILL STILL BE
MATTRESSES LEFT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO WORK IN UNION JOBS TO TAKE THOSE
MATTRESSES CAN DO SO AS WELL.>>Yunji: SHOULD WE BE
CHARGING FOR TRASH PICK UP.>>I’M OPPOSITION TO
NICKELING AND DIMING OUR RESIDENTS.
FOR THINGS THAT’S CITY ALREADY DOES AND SHOULD BE
DOING IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY. SO WHEN THIS WAS PROPOSED, I
LOOKED AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY AND LOOKED AT THE
TRASH PILE, ILLEGAL DUMP PILE ACROSS MY PARENTS’ HOUSE IN
ALEWA HEIGHTS. THERE’S NO WAY THEY’RE GOING
TO PAY A FEE. STILL GOING TO HAVE THEIR PILE
THERE. I’M AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.
>>Yunji: WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>YEAH, I’M ACTUALLY OPEN TO
THE IDEA. I UNDERSTAND THERE’S ISSUES
WITH PEOPLE DUMPING THEIR TRASH.
PAY AS YOU THROW SYSTEM HAS BEEN PROVEN TO WASTE BY 50%.
LIVE ON SMALL ISLAND. LIMITED RESOURCES.
ESPECIALLY IF WE CAN DEAL WITH THE ILLEGAL DUMPING ISSUE.
KEEP ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO RECYCLE.
REDUCE, REUSE, RECYCLE. I ALSO LOOK INTO ORGANIC
COMPOSTING MODEL. LIKE THEY DID IN PORTLAND,
MAINE, THEY HAVE ONE, YOU PAY IN 15 BUCKS, TOTALLY OPTIONAL
IF YOU WANT TO. AND YOU LEAVE YOUR ORGANIC
WASTE, FOOD WASTE OUT AND THEN IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN ACTUALLY
ASK FOR ORGANIC COMPOST TO BE BROUGHT AND DROPPED OFF AT
YOUR DOOR. SO I THINK IN TERMS OF WASTE
REDUCTION, AND DISPOSING OF WHAT WE V I THINK THAT’S WE’VE
GOT TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND MAKING SURE WE’RE
KEEPING OUR ISLAND CLEAN. OR KEEPING OUR ISLAND WASTE
FREE.>>Yunji: ON THAT ISSUE, WE
HAVE SOMEONE WRITING IN ASKING WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO
ABOUT STOPPING PLASTIC POLLUTION FROM GETTING INTO
OUR OCEANS. THIS MONTHS, WE HAD THE BAG
FEE IN EFFECT NOW. SO YOU’VE GOT TO PAY.
EVERY TIME YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE.
WHAT NEW IDEAS DO WE HAVE.>>WE LIVE ON AN ISLAND.
WE DO HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES WHEN COMES TO ALL THE OPALA
WE’RE CREATING. WHAT CAN WE ABOUT BE DOING TO
BE BETTER ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS?
>>I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE MIGHT
BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD. KUPU HAWAII AND GROUPS LIKE
SUSTAINABLE COASTLINES AND SURFRIDER FOUNDATION HAS BEEN
LEADING DIFFERENT KIND OF MARINE DEBRIS CLEAN UPS AND
PICK-UPS. IF WE PROVIDE INCENTIVES
ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT IKAIKA TALKED ABOUT, FOR SOME OF THE
ORGANIZATIONS, TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE GRANTS OR FUNDING AS
PART OF THESE KINDS OF EFFORTS, WE THINK IT WILL GET
EVERYONE A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN TAKING CARE OF THE DEBRIS
WASHING UP ON OUR COASTLINE AS WELL AS REALLY INSTILLING
SENSE OF STEWARDSHIP. WE KIND OF DID PROPOSE A
NUMBER OF BILLS LAST YEAR TO DEVELOP THAT IDEA OF FURTHER.
BUT I KNOW DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES ASKED
US, TO WAIT UNTIL THEY FINISH THEIR SOLID WASTE MASTER PLAN
UPDATE. AND THEN SEE HOW WE MIGHT
INTEGRATE INTO SOME OF THEIR NEW SERVICES.
>>Yunji: THIS PERSON IS WRITING IN ABOUT OR WATER LINE
AND SEWER SYSTEM. ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE ONE
WATERMAIN BREAK A DAY IN OUR CITY.
AND IF IT HAPPENS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT’S A BIG
TRAFFIC MESS OR EVEN MORE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, IKAIKA,
I’LL ASK THIS TO YOU. WHAT SHOULD WE DO TO FIX OUR
WATER LINES AND SEWER SYSTEM THAT ARE IN SUCH DISREPAIR?
>>REAL QUICK. I THINK WE SHOULD JUST SAY NO
ACTUALLY DO THE SINGLE USE PLASTICS AND STYROFOAM BAN.
IT’S OKAY FOR US TO SAY NO TO SOME THINGS.
BUT I APPRECIATE THE ENDORSEMENT.
WITH REGARDS.>>Yunji: SEWER LINE AND WATER
LINE. OUR ISLAND NEEDS MASSIVE
OVERHAUL. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU THINK
ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE COMING.
I THINK THAT IN THE PROCESS OF RETHINKING OUR RAIL STRATEGY,
OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GO THROUGH AND DO A MASSIVE
REINVESTMENT IN OUR CORE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN OUR SEWERS, UNDERGROUNDING THE LINE, ALL OF OUR
ELECTRICAL AND UTILITY LINES. AND PAYING FOR IT THROUGH
WHAT’S CALLED CLIMATE BOND. SOME OF THE FANCY TERMS.
CLIMATE BOND. IT’S MONIES THAT ARE SET ASIDE
SPECIFICALLY, THAT WOULD RAISE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
COST OF ADAPTING TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO DO IT.>>Yunji: YOU’RE IN THE
CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS. DO WE ADDRESS THIS RIGHT NOW,
WATER AND SEWER ISSUES?>>ABSOLUTELY.
THERE’S SORT OF THREE CORE CITY FUNCTIONS.
ROADS, SEWERS AND WATER. IT SEEMS VERY OFTEN THAT WHEN
WE GO IN AND IMPROVE ONE OF THOSE, THE OTHER TWO SORT OF
GET FORGOTTEN ABOUT. FEW MONTHS LATER, COME IN AND
REPAVING THE ROADS, REAL NICE, COME IN AND DIG IT UP
AGAIN TO DO SEWER AND WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE’S NEED FOR MORE COORDINATION AND COST
SAVINGS. OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS.
LIKE THE ONE I GREW UP, HAVE ISSUES WITH OUR AGING
INFRASTRUCTURE. WE NEED TO BE MUCH MORE
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT PRIORITIZING THE AREAS THAT
ARE IN SORT OF MOST DISREPAIR. SORT OF TRIAGE.
A LOT OF OLDER LINES THAT ARE SUFFICIENT AND HAVE THE
CAPACITY. OTHER AREAS THAT CLEARLY
DON’T. AND SEEMS VERY OFTEN, THE
CITY, AGAIN, PAYS SOMETHING PARTICULAR WATER LINE, FEW
MONTHS OR YEARS LATER, SEEMS LIKE THEY DO IT AGAIN.
AND PEOPLE HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AGAIN,
COMES REALLY DOWN TO THE WAY WE PLAN IT, AND THEN ALSO,
WHEN IT COMES DONE TO PAYING FOR IT, WE NEED TO BE VERY
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE GO IN AND DO THE
PLANNING, THAT BONDS WE ISSUE TO PAY FOR IT ARE DONE RIGHT.
WE’RE IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP OF
HAVE TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT NOT OVEREXTENDING CITY
FINANCIAL RESOURCES.>>Yunji: YOU TALKED ABOUT
AFFORDABLE HOUSING. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO
KAKAAKO. A LOT OF HIGHRISES.
AT THAT WHAT POINT IS ENOUGH TO ENOUGH?
SHOULD DEVELOPMENT OF KAKAAKO BE CURTAILED?
>>NO. I THINK OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE DEVELOPING SMART GROWTH
PRACTICES. I THINK CITY PLANNER, I
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE
CONTAINED WITHIN THE URBAN CORE OF HONOLULU AND ALONG THE
RAIL CORRIDOR AS WELL. IF WE CONTINUE LET DEVELOPERS
ESSENTIALLY RUNNING THE SHOW IN A LOT OF WAYS I THINK OUT
HERE, IF WE CONTINUE TO LET DEVELOPERS BUILD OUT INTO OUR
AG LANDS AND PRESERVATION LANDS, INTO THE COUNTRYSIDE,
I THINK IT’S ENVIRONMENTALLY DISASTROUS.
IT’S CONTRIBUTING TO URBAN SPRAWL, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE
TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. BAD FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF
OUR PEOPLE. AND SO YEAH, I THINK WE DO NEED
TO FOCUS AFFORDABLE HOUSING EFFORTS IN THE URBAN CORE,
PLACES LIKE KAKAAKO AND ALA MOANA.
YOU’LL SEE LUXURY HIGHRISES GO UP.
NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AROUND. YOU’LL SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE ON
THE STREETS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A LUXURY HIGHRISE
DEVELOPMENT THAT’S BRAND NEW. I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OUR FOR POLITICIANS ARE INFLUENCES BY
THE MONEY THAT COMES FROM THESE DEVELOPERS AND THE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT TO GAIN FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES, WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS
WITH THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING RULE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE,
DEVELOPERS ARE ALLOWED TO BUILD THEIR AFFORDABLE UNITS
AFFORDABLE UNITS. DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN.
AND I THINK THAT’S HUGELY PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE IF YOU
HAVE ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IN KALIHI, IWILEI, I THINK
YOU’RE GOING TO CREATE A SOCIETY THAT IS SOCIALLY
STRATIFIED, DIVIDED BY CLASS AND THAT’S LAST THING, THAT’S
GOING TO LAST FOR DECADES TO COME.
>>I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP IN. I THINK THERE ARE ALSO
EXAMPLES OF QUALITY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO
DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE URBAN CORE, NOT JUST ON
THE OUTLYING AREAS, AND ONE EXAMPLE I WOULD BRING TO THE
TABLE IS SAM KU. WHO SAM KU HAWAII, WHICH HAS
BUILT A VERY UNIQUE DEVELOPMENT IN WHICH THEY
HAVE PLACED WHOLE TOWER THAT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
KAPIOLANI ALA MOANA MOST HEAVILY CONGESTED AREA,
UTILIZED STATE FINANCING TOOLS.
WHICH ARE KNOWN AS 201H EXEMPTIONS.
NOT REALLY ASKING FOR HIGHER DENSITY OR LARGE INCENTIVES
FROM CITY ZONING AGENCIES. BUT THEY’RE ACTUALLY USING
STATE FINANCING TOOLS TO SORT OF ELIMINATE CERTAIN KINDS OF
ADDITIONAL COSTS AND BY DOING SO, THEY’RE ABLE TO OFFER 60%
OF THEIR 450 UNITS AS AFFORDABLE WITHIN THE RANGE
OF WHAT MANY OF THE WORKFORCE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROVIDING INCENTIVES AND
OPPORTUNITIES FOR DEVELOPER LIKES SAM KU INTERESTED IN
BUILDING QUALITY PRODUCT FOR HAWAII RESIDENTS.
FIRST TOWER WAS SO SUCCESSFUL THEY SOLD OUT WITHIN THE FIRST
I THINK THEY SOLD OUT IN PROBABLY THE FIRST 3 DAYS.
OR SO. NOW LOOKING TO DEVELOP A
SECOND TOWER IN THAT SAME ALA MOANA KAPIOLANI CORRIDOR.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD WITH THE SAME MIX.
WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS IN
WHICH YOU ACTUALLY HAVE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE
DEVELOPING FOR THE LOCAL MARKET.
TO TRY AND REALLY HELP BRING A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
INTO OUR HOUSING INVENTORY.>>YOU DO MAKE A GOOD POINT.
WE NEED THESE DEVELOPERS. WE NEED SOMEBODY TO BUILD
HOUSING. A LOT TIMES, WE SEE DEVELOPERS
BEING CAST AS THE BIG BAD WOLF.
SOMEBODY’S GOT TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
HOW DO WE FOSTER THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT SHE’S TALKING
ABOUT?>>WE TOTALLY CAN.
A LOT OF OTHER CITIES DO THIS AS WELL.
HAVE REQUIREMENTS OF 15, 20% OF ALL OF YOUR UNITS HAVE TO
BE MADE AFFORDABLE. AND THAT WORKS.
IT’S POSSIBLE. IT’S DOABLE.
>>Yunji: IS THAT REALISTIC, 15 TO 20%?
>>THIS AREA I’VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS
AT THE LEGISLATURE. BEEN VERY STRONG ADVOCATE FOR
CREATION OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IN FACT, TWO OF THE LARGEST AFFORDABLE HOUSING RELATED
BILLS THAT WERES PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR AND
PREVIOUS YEAR BILLS THAT I WORKED ON.
THEY EXPANDED THE INCENTIVES TAX INCENTIVES FOR CREATING
AFFORDABLE RENTALS. CLEARLY A PRODUCT THAT WE
NEED. THAT ZACH MENTIONED.
A LOT OF LUXURY DEVELOPMENTS. FOR SALE.
BUT THE BIG PUKA WE HAVE IN THE LOCAL MARKET IS RENTALS.
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOUBLED UP, TRIPLED UP IN HOMES.
LOVE TO HAVE SOMEWHERE THEY CAN AFFORD.
VERY PROUD OF MY WORK IN EXPANDING THAT.
THE BILL THAT WAS RECENTLY PASSED, OMNIBUS HOUSING BILL
BY THE LEGISLATURE, RENTAL INCENTIVES IN THERE ARE SUCH
THAT 291,000 LOCAL FAMILIES QUALIFY FOR UNITS IF WE ONLY
WE CAN BUILD THEM. PART OF CHALLENGE IS THAT OUR
REGULATORY STRUCTURE IS VERY DIFFICULT.
LOTS OF HOOPS GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO BUILD BUILDINGS.
AND AS WE KNOW, KAKAAKO IS REGULATED BY THE STATE.
I HAPPENED TO LIVE IN KAKAAKO IN A WORKFORCE TOWER.
I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO GET THAT BUILDING BUILT.
I THINK WE’RE GOING TO NEED A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE
URBAN CORE TO MAKE SURE THAT ON ONE SIDE, OF THE STREET
STREET, UNDER CITY CONTROL, IT DOESN’T HAVE A DIFFERENT
SET OF RULES FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WHICH IS
UNDER STATE CONTROL. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS HOW WE MAKE OUR
DEVELOPMENT IN THE URBAN CORE, MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE,
AND MAKE SURE THAT AS ZACH MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE BETTER
STANDARD FOR WHAT IS AFFORDABLE AND WHO CAN
QUALIFY. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES
DOWN TO MORE INCENTIVES. SO THAT PROJECTS CAN PENCIL
OUT AND CAN GET DONE.>>Yunji: WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE
MINUTE. A LOT OF HEARD A LOT OF
CONSENSUS TONIGHT FROM ALL OF YOU.
CHAD IS WRITING IN TONIGHT. MIGHT BE OUR LAST QUESTION.
IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR RESPONSE TO ABOUT A MINUTE.
ABOUT WANTING TO KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DIFFERENCES. LET’S
START WITH YOU. WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENTLY
THAN YOU’VE SEEN THE COUNCILWOMAN DO SO FAR?
>>I THINK ACTUALLY, THAT YOU COUNCILMEMBER FUKUNAGA HAVE
DONE A WONDERFUL JOB ACTUALLY.
YOU’RE SOMEONE THAT I THINK A LOT OF US CAN TRUST.
DON’T INTERPRET THAT AS AN ENDORSEMENT THOUGH.
I WOULD DEFINITELY VOTE DIFFERENTLY ON THING LIKE THE
PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE PEOPLE.
I WOULD VOTE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOUR VOTES ON THE STYROFOAM
AND PLASTIC, SINGLE USE PLASTICS.
AND I THINK THAT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MY PRIMARY CONCERN
IS THE, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE THESE BUILDINGS FOR?
WHAT IS HAWAII FOR? AND I FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN’T
BEEN DOING ENOUGH FRANKLY TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF OUR
WORKING FAMILIES.>>Yunji: WHAT ABOUT YOU?
WHAT MAKES YOU DIFFERENT THAN THE COUNCILWOMAN?
>>WELL, THAT’S ACTUALLY THE MAIN REASON I DECIDE TO DO RUN
AGAINST THE COUNCILWOMAN. SINGLEHANDEDLY KILL THE BILL
TO BAN STYROFOAM TAKEOUT CONTAINERS ON OAHU.
COMMON SENSE BILL THAT’S BEEN PASSED ON OTHER ISLANDS.
AND YOU KNOW, IT’S A PETROLEUM PRODUCT THAT FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT HAS LABELED AS LIKELY CARCINOGEN.
SO IT’S SURPRISING THAT THAT BILL DIDN’T PASS.
OTHER SENSE IS I ALSO THINK THAT I’M, IN THIS RACE,
CANDIDATE WHO IS STRONGEST IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND TRULY, TRULY DOING THINGS TO HELP OUT THE WORKING CLASS.
POLITICIANS, AT THE STATE LEVEL AND CITY LEVEL HERE,
HAVEN’T DONE NEARLY ENOUGH AND YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF
STRENGTHENING OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS, I’M
LESS IN FAVOR OF INCENTIVE IT AND HANDOUTS TO DEVELOPERS
THAN MY OPPONENTS I THINK REQUIREMENTS ARE JUST AS
EFFECTIVE. AND DON’T COST TAXPAYORS
MONEY WHO ARE ALREADY STRETCHED OUT QUITE A BIT.
>>Yunji: WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.
SO EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE. HOW WOULD YOU GOVERN
DIFFERENTLY? YOU KNOW MY CAMPAIGN HAS
BEEN ENERGY AND VISION AND ALOHA.
ENERGY PART IS REALLY KEY. OUR CITY, I WAS BORN AND
RAISED IN THE DISTRICT. SEEN OUR ISSUES WE FACE.
COST OF HOUSE, HOMELESSNESS, CRIME.
CONTINUE TO GET WORSE OR CONTINUE TO JUST SORT OF
STAGNATE. I THINK WE NEED LEADERSHIP
THAT IS GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THESE ISSUES.
AND REALLY, REALLY GET THINGS DONE.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FACE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND I THINK I’VE DEMONSTRATED THROUGH MY WORK IN THE
CONSTRUCTION LINE, ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING
INCENTIVES. ISSUES, GOING AFTER MONDAY
STOCKHOLDER HOMES. WE HAVE EFFECTIVE IN THE
PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
HELP THE CITIZENS. THING THAT IS IMPORTANT MOST
OF ALL IN DISTRICT 6 IS THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO FIGHT FOR THEM TO PROTECT THEIR
NEIGHBORHOODS ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS ISSUES AT THAT
ARISE THAT MAY BE VERY DIVISIVE.
NOW, I WILL SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THE POLYSTYRENE BAN.
NUMBER OF FAST FOOD OR SMALL BUSINESS OPERATORS FOR WHOM
SWITCHING MAY NOT BE VIABLE OPTION AT THIS POINT.
WE’RE LOOKING FOR COMPROMISES WAS WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE
ABLE TO SURVIVE. WE’RE ALL FOR HAVING LESS
PLASTICS IN THE OCEAN. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WANT
TO HAVE THE SMALL BUSINESSES BE ABLE TO SURVIVE AS WELL.
SECONDLY, I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OF
COUNCIL BEING CHECK AND BALANCE, ON THE
ADMINISTRATION, IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE INDEPENDENT
VOICE WHERE WE ASK QUESTIONS, WE DON’T ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION ESPECIALLY ON THINGS LIKE TRANSIT FUNDING
WHEN WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST CONCERNED ARE OUR
ELDERLY RESIDENTS, OUR VOTERS AND OUR CONSTITUENTS FOR WHOM
WE ARE REALLY THE LAST STOP. SO I THINK IN MANY WAYS, WHILE
WE MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, WE ALWAYS
HOOK FOR WAYS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO SOLVE A
PARTICULAR PROBLEM.>>Yunji: THANK YOU SO MUCH
MAHALO FOR ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS – CITY COUNCILWOMAN CAROL
FUKUNAGA. IKAIKA HUSSEY
TYLER DOS SANTOS AND. ZACK STODDARD.
NEXT WEEK ON INSIGHTS – OUR FOCUS SHIFTS TO THE NEIGHBOR
ISLANDS. TWO COUNTIES, KAUA’I AND MAUI WILL ELECT NEW MAYORS
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 AND 8 YEARS RESPECTIVELY.
FROM 8 TO 9 P.M. WE WILL FEATURE THREE OF THE
CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAYOR OF MAUI COUNTY.
COUNCILMEMBERS ELLE COCHRAN AND DON GUZMAN ALONG WITH
FORMER COUNCILMEMBER MIKE VICTORINO WILL JOIN US IN
STUDIO. THEN FROM 9 TO 10 P.M. FOUR OF
THE CANDIDATES FOR KAUA’I MAYOR WILL JOIN US. THEY ARE
COUNCILMEMBERS DEREK KAWAKAMI, JOANN YUKIMURA AND
MEL RAPOZO ALONG WITH COUNTY PARKS DIRECTOR LEONARD
RAPOZO. PLEASE JOIN US FOR WHAT SHOULD
BE LIVELY NIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
PARTICIPATING IN OUR SHOW TONIGHT.
I’M YUNJI DE NIES ON PBS HAWAII.
UNTIL NEXT TIME. A HUI HO.
Ben Wattenberg: Hello. I’m Ben Wattenberg. A major new debate is unfolding across the
American landscape. On one side are property owners who say that
government regulations destroy the value of their land. They want compensation. On the other side are environmentalists who
say regulations are vital to saving American natural heritage. Joining us to sort through the conflict and
consensus are Richard Epstein, law professor at the University of Chicago and author of
“Takings: Private Property and the Power of Eminent Domain”; Jonathan Turley, law
professor at George Washington University and director of the Environmental Crimes Project;
Fred Smith, president of the Competitive Enterprise Institute and coeditor of “Environmental
Politics: Public Costs, Private Rewards”; and Professor Peter Byrne, professor at Georgetown
University Law Center. The topic before this house: environmentalists
versus landowners. This week on “Think Tank.” Americans have always revered private property. They also love their country’s natural heritage. What happens when two of America’s fundamental
values collide? Margaret Rogers (on videotape): When I got
this letter from the Department of the Interior Fish and Wildlife Service, they came on me
without any warning at all that I could have a stay in jail, a $25,000 to $50,000 fine. And I thought it was unreal that the government
can come in when we were the property owners and owned this property. I just wondered, what else can the government
do to private property, to private property owners? Ben Wattenberg: Margaret Rogers is one of
thousands of small investors, ranchers, farmers, developers, and home builders who have joined
the property rights movement. They say that federal land use regulations
cost them billions of dollars every year. In her case, the government ordered her not
to build a fence on her property. Federal agents told her the fence might destroy
the habitat of the golden-cheeked warbler, a bird protected by the Endangered Species
Act. The new and vigorous property rights movement
points to the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution, which says, “Private property shall not
be taken for public use without just compensation.” Members challenge federal laws, like the Endangered
Species Act and the Clean Water Act, claiming that regulations restrict development, amounting
to government seizure of their property without compensation. This growing national movement has been heard
in Washington. The private property owners’ bill of rights
was recently introduced in Congress. The bill would compensate landowners if government
land regulations cut the value of their property by 50 percent. Worried environmentalists counter that only
government has the ability to protect whole ecosystems, like the wetlands of the Chesapeake
Bay, from the polluting activities of thousands of farmers, industries, and municipalities. Environmentalists also argue that the federal
government must have the right to control land use in order to protect more than 700
species threatened with extinction. For example, development has been restricted
on 200,000 acres of California coastal land in order to preserve habitat for the endangered
California gnatcatcher. But landowners argue that if it is in the
public interest to preserve a wetland or a habitat for endangered species, why shouldn’t
the government pay for it? Should the entire burden fall on individual
landowners? Bill Humphries (on videotape): I say property
rights are like civil rights. You can’t take anybody’s away without
hurting everybody. Ben Wattenberg: Gentlemen, thank you for joining
us. This is a most disparate group. And I wondered if we could start out by trying
to get some definitions and descriptions, perhaps starting with you, Fred Smith, and
going around, back and forth, to describe the nature of this growing property rights
movement that we saw in the opening clip. Fred Smith: Well, it’s sort of a typical
American spontaneous grassroots organization movement. It’s almost uniquely our society’s outrage
when it feels its rights are violated; people get organized. They’re small landowners, they’re small
business groups, they’re people who for various reasons — wetland law, endangered
species law, whatever — have found that they can’t do what they thought they could
do with their land for development, for building a home for selling for retirement purposes,
cutting down trees that they’ll save for the future. They don’t feel that there’s a conflict
between their use of the land and national interests, and if there is, they feel they
should be compensated for it. They’re demanding that their rights be honored,
and they’re now in every state. And there’s hundreds of them. And they’re doing an incredibly interesting
job. Ben Wattenberg: Jonathan Turley, you direct
something called the Environmental Crimes Project. How do you see this, I think, growing group
of people who call themselves the property rights movement? Jonathan Turley: Well, I don’t see the property
rights movement quite as new and spontaneous as perhaps you do. The property rights movement, in my view,
has some anachronistic aspects to it. That is, the property rights movement is sort
of a period piece from another time, when property rights were defined in a very robust
and broad sense and when governmental interests and regulations were very, very few. Now, I’ll give you that historically those
property rights have been diminished with time. But there’s nothing wrong with that. There is nothing unnatural and there is certainly
nothing unconstitutional with it because this is part of the process of living within a
democracy. And property rights are a socially contingent
thing. They are defined by a society according to
societal needs. Ben Wattenberg: All right, okay. Richard Epstein, you have been described by
the commentator and activist Jessica Matthews, who has been a guest on this program, as “the
libertarian law professor, the poisonous source of this poisonous movement.” [Laughter.] So without further ado, sir, why don’t you
tell us how you see this? Richard Epstein: With friends like Jessica
Matthews, it’s not very important to have any enemies around in the world. I think, just to take up on what Jonathan
said, it’s a very dangerous way to look at the world to assume that since political
institutions have decided to ordain for certain kinds of results, that we necessarily have
to live with them. The whole point of the Constitution is to
say that some things ought to be beyond majority rules and other things ought to be subject
to it. And the question you have to ask is whether
or not the evolution to the new kind of environmentalism is something which gives you better social
results than you had under the older system in which the property rights were, as he said,
more robust. And I think that one can see the answer is
clearly that this new system is a disaster from a social perspective and that what one
really wants to do is to have a system of stronger property rights to deal with environmental
protection, not weaker ones. Ben Wattenberg: Okay. Peter Byrne. Peter Byrne: However poisonous the doctrine
is, Richard himself is not a poisonous source. But I think that we are seeing federal land
use controls for the first time on a large scale. That is because of widespread and legitimate
concerns about serious degradation of the natural world due to expanded economic activity
assisted by new kinds of technologies. I agree with Jonathan that the resistance
to government regulation on the basis of some romantic notion of natural rights is a constant
aspect of American politics. And what you have here is that invocation
in simply a new social context. Richard Epstein: There is some simplicity
about the movement, and as an academic matter, I would not want to defend a hundred percent
of all that they do. But I think it’s very instructive that the
kinds of cases that are put forward as illustration of what government ought to do are kinds of
things that could have been regulated by government or by private rights of actions a hundred
years ago. Ben Wattenberg: So what has changed? Richard Epstein: What’s happened now is
that the way in which it’s been described is that things that are thought to be appropriate
government functions are government functions, but the new land use regulations go far above
and beyond the kinds of things we’re talking about. Ben Wattenberg: And that is what has stimulated
— just to get the record straight — that is what has stimulated this property rights
movement. Richard Epstein: Sure. Jonathan Turley: Well, I think it’s interesting
that Richard, I think, makes a good foundational point upon which we can agree, that in his
earlier remarks, he essentially acknowledged that property is socially contingent. It’s not coming from some divine source,
and that because it’s socially contingent, it is up to society. And I take it that Richard’s principal objection
is he doesn’t feel that society is benefiting particularly well from environmental regulations. Fred Smith: But also, Jonathan, it’s how
we share burdens. I mean, the United States has a strong commitment
to environmental values but also a strong commitment to private property, just as America
for years had a strong commitment to national defense. But when the military wanted to build a base,
it didn’t go out and seize property. It basically either purchased it, or it condemned
the land and paid compensation. Environmental values are important, but how
equitable is it to pick a handful of small people and then essentially put the whole
burden on them? If we really believe that habitat for golden-cheeked
warblers is an important thing, then let’s pay those people whose land values are destroyed. Ben Wattenberg: Or — wait a minute, let’s
not get into things that sound trivial. You take the Chesapeake Bay, I mean, which
is a great natural habitat, which isn’t the golden-cheeked warbler or the red-breasted
dowager or any one of those things, but is a serious American asset being polluted by
myriad sources. Richard Epstein: The answer to that is — classical
rule says that if you have public waters that are polluted by private property, you could
enjoin that pollution and you could have done so since the year 1500 or earlier. Ben Wattenberg: Who could have done it? The government? Richard Epstein: The government by virtue
of its ownership. That is, the question about private property,
to get it into perspective, is you have to assume that everybody agrees on the pollution
and contamination cases. The only area in which there is a serious
disagreement is on the other side of the line, where there is no pollution and no contamination. Then the question is: Do you have the same
degree of regulation? Ben Wattenberg: Let me ask you a question,
and then we’ll come back to that. Norman Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary
magazine, wrote some years ago that “environmentalism is the American socialism.” Richard Epstein: Yes. Ben Wattenberg: What you are saying is you
have a political, ideological agenda saying these guys want too much government, they’re
taking over the world, and this is the vehicle you’re doing it with. Richard Epstein: But the question is why? And the reason why I want to state that is
I think that the reason you worry about private property is to figure out what set of incentives
are going to be created on private owners on the one hand and political actors on the
other. So to take a recent important case, the Lucas
situation. The issue wasn’t — Ben Wattenberg: Now, what is the Lucas situation? Richard Epstein: I was going to — the issue
there was not pollution. The issue was whether a man could build a
single-family home on a beachfront lot. Ben Wattenberg: This was in North Carolina? Richard Epstein: No, in South Carolina. And the government came along and said, “No,
no, no, we want this land to be kept open for the leisure of our people and to promote
tourism in the state.” And then later they invented an argument:
He can’t build his house because if it gets blown away in a hurricane, people will be
hurt. Phony argument, as far as I can see. And I think the answer is, if you allow the
government to impose that regulation, they will impose it on land that is worth hundreds
of thousands of dollars for environmental benefits that are totally trivial. Once you require compensation — the government
will not compensate in all cases, and that’s very important — they won’t do the regulation. Ben Wattenberg: Let’s hear from the other
side. Was the government right in trying to say,
“We are allowed to take this man’s property and say you can’t build on it because we
want open beach in South Carolina”? Peter Byrne: I think that there is a very
legitimate question for government about construction of residences and other permanent structures
that are on barrier islands that are subject to the forces of wind, water, and tides, that
the — I can’t — I don’t want to reargue Lucas. But that there is a legitimate interest in
restraining the disruption of those natural forces. Fred Smith: But that argument would be made
stronger if the outcome had been somewhat different. As you undoubtedly know, when Lucas finally
won his case, got compensated, the state eventually purchased his property, and then immediately
turned around and allowed it to be used for the purposes they denied Lucas. They allowed it to be built upon. The hypocrisy of the rules in this case — I
think we’re dealing with bureaucratic excess without a check and balance. If you give people an unlimited check on human
life in war or unlimited property rights in the form of environmental excesses, you’re
going to end up with trivial presumptions of power by political officials against small,
defenseless landowners. Jonathan Turley: Oh, there is a check and
balance. It’s called the legislative system. Fred Smith: No, there is no check and balance
in this case, because what we’re dealing with is small landowners hit with the power
of the federal government, as we’ve seen over and over again. When that happens, individual rights are overridden
by temporary, transient majority. Jonathan Turley: Yeah, but I — but the thing
that we’re missing here, of course, is that we’re not just simply talking about environmental
values in some abstraction. And Richard’s presentation of the environmental
regulations makes it sound like this truly is a whimsical fascination of a bureaucrat
in the Beltway. In reality, we’re talking about — and
shudder to suggest — a very efficient application of federal regulations. The libertarians miss, of course, I think
an essential point, which is that in the practice of law we try to allow people to make individual
decisions and we try to protect them from being forced to bear the cost of other people’s
activities. What people that destroy wetlands want to
do, and other polluters, is force the costs of their operation on the rest of us. That’s the reason we don’t let a factory
owner dump a hundred tons of air pollution — Richard Epstein: But Jonathan, that is not
simply an accurate statement. Lucas did not dump anything on anybody. This was a situation in which when you allow
the government to designate lands as wetlands, they will simply be rapacious. They will never designate as a wetland something
for which they have to pay. I have worked on a case, for example, where
they designated a wetland on the major commercial strip in Oakland, Michigan. The land is worth $10 million worth of development. It is now run over and pockmarked by tractors. And some government bureaucrat at the state
sticks a trowel in the ground, finds it wet, and after eight years and hundreds of thousands
of dollars’ worth of litigation, this piece of commercial real estate has been tied up. Ben Wattenberg: Is that fair for the government
to do that? Jonathan Turley: Oh, this is part of the parade
of horribles. These laws are designed, like any regulations,
to maximize the benefit for all of us. We all benefit from these regulations. Now, yes, your ox may be gored on one wetlands
case and mine might be gored in another, but we all benefit from it. To say that the government has to compensate
for virtually any regulation that affects private property is to take us back in time. Richard Epstein: Nobody has said that. What we have said, if you pollute, we prevent
without compensation. These are cases in which there is no pollution,
and if you make the government pay, it will do something which it will not do now. It will pick and choose those lands to take. It won’t take land in major development
with a private value of $10 million and a wetland value of $100,000. It will take land where the values are reversed. Peter Byrne: What we’re talking about here
are the dimensions of property rights. No one is denying that property — private
property is a vital institution for both the flourishing of individual lives and for the
economy. What we are talking about here are the dimensions
of property rights and the ability of elected representatives, the democratic process to
place limits on the rights that attach to ownership. Fred Smith: But I think this is really missing
a point here. I think we’re really talking about two very,
very separate things. One is: Are the destruction of property rights
that the environmental movement is now engaged in likely to advance environmental goals? And I think there the answer is, if so, then
why would environmentalists oppose the military never paying for land if they needed it for
military bases, for bombing ranges, or the highway departments needed it for right-of-ways? Generally, by requiring compensation in those
cases, we don’t frustrate national objectives. We achieve them, but we achieve them in a
more equitable way, with the cost of those land value reductions, or changed land values,
being borne by all the citizens who it affects. But more importantly, if we really are looking
at what would advance environmental objectives in our society, it’s not that there’s
too much private property, too much private control over resources. It’s that we have too little. The resources that are at risk in this country,
whether you’re talking wetlands, the Chesapeake Bay, or the wildlife in America, are politically
controlled resources and would bear much better protection if they were ecologically privatized. That’s where we should be going. Ben Wattenberg: Let these fellows — Jonathan Turley: Well, I think that within
that — I can’t let pass. The environmentalists are not talking about
destroying property rights. What’s involved here is what the definition
of property rights is. As a society becomes more crowded, as it develops,
property rights change, that as the externalities or the costs of all — Richard Epstein: That is not correct. [Simultaneous talking.] Ben Wattenberg: Jonathan, there was a question
sort of brought up before. I mean, is it fair to make one single person
pay those — in other words, if somebody has a piece of property worth $100,000, and
because of some environmental regulation, it is diminished and then only worth $5,000,
is that fair? Jonathan Turley: We’re not making one person
pay. What we’re doing is — Ben Wattenberg: Well, in some cases you are. Jonathan Turley: Well, certainly people will
pay — like any other regulation, it will affect us differently. But we all live in a society. That society has to have certain rules that
are majoritarian, that are beneficial to us all. That’s part of living in a society. And we don’t compensate for many of those
things because they’re essential to governance. Fred Smith: The point, though, is, we have
now a law in America that is so unbalanced. If a homeless person knocks at your door,
you can’t shoot them. If an endangered species lands on your property,
you can’t shoot that endangered species. In both cases, I think those kinds of rules
are reasonable. But today the homeless person is not entitled
to your front bedroom, and yet the endangered species if it wanders on your property can
confiscate your whole property rights. Essentially, we have got laws for habitat,
for species now that we would never entertain for people. And you do not pay rents for that. That is wrong. Jonathan Turley: I’m willing to concede
— Ben Wattenberg: Let’s just go to theory,
just for a moment. We had planned to go more to theory, but can
environmental regulation be regarded as a taking? Jonathan Turley: In terms of environmental
regulations being a taking, sure, there are cases in which environmental regulations could
be takings. But that’s a far, far different question
than what’s being advanced here. What the private property advocates are trying
to do is essentially roll back our notion of legitimate government enterprise. Now, they may try to put it into a Trojan
horse of the takings clause, but it’s an old argument. These are people that don’t like government,
and they want to try to reduce it to a minimum. And that’s not necessarily a bad philosophy
until it begins to affect the quality of life that our society has tried to build. We have a good society here, and it’s because
we regulate away certain externalities that affect us all. Richard Epstein: These are not externality
regulations. Over and over again, there is nothing in the
property movement which says that pollution itself ought to be a constitutional right. Peter Byrne: These, of course, are legitimate
arguments to make in the political process. Where I think one needs to be concerned is
that property rights proponents would like to make Richard’s test, if I can just briefly
— you know, that what breakdown has there been in the contracting process that justifies
government intervention as a constitutional test for the exercise of power by legislatures? But the theory of our Constitution is that
we have a democracy and that the limitations on the democracy are spelled out in the Constitution,
but they are relatively narrow. We can talk about it, but his test is not
in the Constitution. Ben Wattenberg: Go ahead, talk about it. Peter Byrne: Well, I mean — Fred Smith: But, look, I’m the non-lawyer
on this panel, and I think to some extent, we’re getting involved in legalisms here. Generally speaking, up till now when national
purpose asserted itself, government had the right, either through purchase or in the domain
of taking the property, but we compensated for it. Why are we so frightened that environmental
rules — environmental causes can’t bear the same burden national defense has? I think it can, and we’ll just have a wiser
environmental policy. But, Ben, one thing is, we also have this
argument that property rights are threatening the environment. America has the greatest system of private
property in the world, and our environment vastly is better than anywhere else in the
world. Ben Wattenberg: My sense, as a moderator here
and being a true — believe me, a true nonexpert, is that what is happening is that in the last
few decades, you have had this vigorous environmental movement that has done a lot of things, some
good and perhaps some over the line. And you are now having a rebound against that
saying, “Whoa, too much, too far, too fast.” Is that what’s happening, and isn’t that
really the nature of democracy? Isn’t that good? Peter Byrne: Yes. What is wrong with the process as it’s unfolding
in the Congress is that the property rights bills, bills of rights and whatnot, are stalking
horses. They are taking the place of debate about
the legitimate scope of particular environmental laws. The proponents of them say, “I’m all for
the environment. I just think that we ought to have government
pay for the losses that environmental regulation causes.” The reality, of course, is that the government
could never in fact pay that money. The money does not exist in the government
treasury. So it is a way to defeat environmental regulation
without taking on those regulations on their merits. Ben Wattenberg: Jonathan, have the environmentalists
gone too far, and this is a natural firebreak? Jonathan Turley: No, I don’t think this
is a reaction to environmentalists. I mean, if you read Richard’s book and other
treatises coming from this side, this is a reaction against government. And it’s the oldest argument. We’ve been debating this for over 200 years. And there is every — every time there is
a new cause, a new focus, but at the heart of it is a small group of people with very
concentrated interests who are trying to write into the Constitution the right to be compensated
for the types of regulations that we all have to live with as part of living within a society. Ben Wattenberg: Will you not accept that there
is an argument that there is too much government in America now? Jonathan Turley: Oh, I’m not an advocate
for government. What I’m an advocate for — and Richard
laughs; he expects to sing “The Internationale” next — but the fact is I’m not an advocate
for government. In fact, I think I’m the advocate for individual
rights. How about my rights? How about when Richard’s friends and Fred’s
friends do things on their property that materially affect my life, affect the nature that I live
in, the environment that I live in? Fred Smith: Jonathan is typical of the elitist,
inside-the-Beltway environmental movement, which basically decided that its religious
values will run roughshod over all Americans. That the people out in the real world Ben Wattenberg: Religious values — you mean
it’s sort of — Fred Smith: Eco-theocratic values, that the
cathedrals of nature will be government protected, that the cathedrals of God will be paid for
by private parties. What we’re dealing with is a reaction — democratic
reaction, a populist reaction against the excesses of Washington. It’s very healthy. But I think it’s also a reaction to the
view that only government knows how to manage the environmental resources of America. Most Americans think they’re pretty good
stewards of their own property, and they’re trying to take back power. I think they’re going to get it. Richard Epstein: On the private side, I would
say this. To the extent that you have clear boundaries
between neighbors, individuals who wish to protect the environment are in an ideal position
to do so because they will be able to reap the benefits of what they do. One of the terrors of the environmental movement
is it encourages the destruction of habitat, because unless you destroy it, you will find
that the government will regulate it so the rest of your land becomes valueless. What you really want to do is to have the
government buy the habitat because that way the private owners will have an incentive
to discover and to cultivate it. And the second point is: What do we do about
government? Madison said a long time ago that factions
were the bane against which constitutions have to guard. And you are watching them in operation. Ben Wattenberg: Okay. Thank you, Richard Epstein, Peter Byrne, Fred
Smith, and Jonathan Turley. And thank you. We greatly appreciate hearing from our viewers. Please send comments and questions to the
address on the screen. For “Think Tank,” I’m Ben Wattenberg. Announcer: This has been a production of BJW
Inc., in association with New River Media, which are solely responsible for its content.
Today’s the day It’s really sad to say that I’ve actually never voted before And i never really felt that there was UGHH Unfortunately the stereotypical thing is My vote doesn’t really count When technically yeah it really freaking does Especially in an election like this where IT ME VERY UPSET Im packing my voting bag I need to have some snacks incase the lines really long I’m mostly upset because I feel like this election has turned into just one huge joke it is just one candidate bullying the other, the other bullying the other thats like the opposite of what we want in this country its just more hate filled anything.. like everything i just feel like its all just completely hate filled people are more excited about this election to be over then about having a possibility of a new president and hopefully they’ll bring changes to this country that can actually help those who need it I’m sorry I can’t bring you to vote I love you I know, hmmm Yeah, we’ll just leave those kisses.. for your own mouth The last thing that I want is for my comments to turn hate-filled You have a right to vote for whoever you want and that is the best part about this country So if you strongly believe.. one candidate is better than the other, then unfortunately, that’s your view and that’s something that has to be respected So please I challenge you to be kind in the comments on this day of need. Judging by the title you guys are probably wondering, who am i gonna vote for. I think it’s pretty clear who I’m gonna vote for. So here’s the thing, (sighs) (sighs) If we’re judging purely on somebody who actually has a background in politics and knows what goes into being a president Who has been in the white house herself long enough to understand everything that goes into it I think she’s way more capable than Trump who I don’t think will even bring himself to live in the white house I’m sure it wouldn’t be good enough or up to his standards Maybe I’m wrong but I would love to see if Trump is president how often and how much time he actually spends in the white house uhhh goodness. Alright well I guess I should probably go vote now I’m stressed out I feel I feel physically ill right now uphhh Come’on! Go to your cage! Good boy! Mommy’s got to go vote okay I’ll be right back honey You stay here and be a good boy Like I’m feeling physically ill because I I just Oh God! I’m scared! I’m scared for me, I’m scared for you, I’m scared for all of us! Canada I hope you will welcome me with open arms I’ve never really been there but I hear great things Everyone I’ve ever really met from Canada is really nice Oh God! Can’t forget my dongle! I have a feeling that the line is gonna be really long So the good news is that I will listen to an audiobook Oh goodness I have to go to Starbucks so I can ease my nerves! One of the things I’m even more concerned about is the outcome of no matter who wins The divide in this country is going to be so great and I don’t want people to be mad or upset Everyone’s so angry I wish people can just be happy Oh God! Ahhhhhhhh I need a coffee! and a breakfast sandwich! and a new president! I’m about to start my period so I think that means that Hillary is gonna win I think Hillary is going to be president Because today my app says that today is the day Hillary… this one’s for you girl This ones for you and can we lower tampon taxes because it’s not a luxury item it’s a need Thanks! Got the sandwich Now it’s time to go vote Oh God I’m so anxious Ohhhhh I feel sick Voting should be an exciting thing It should be an exciting time I was studying up last night on all of the other propositions that there are to vote on There’s so much more to vote for than just the president and all of these other things no matter who the president is the smaller propositions also mean so much to your community to your state. so study up. These are my feet walking This is my drink I’m drinking I just have like so many things to say and so many thoughts and It is also it’s even so sad that the fact that you know Trump is so crazy but his promise to make America great again is something that is powering people to go vote for him because they are so incredibly unhappy with how things are in the world that we live in Why can’t it be someone else? Why can’t it be anyone else? I don’t understand. He’s a personality not a president He’s treating this whole thing like a reality show like it’s It’s not a reality show this is actually real life and for someone who has spent their entire life creating fake fictitious worlds That’s not… That’s not what we want! It’s not what we want but if thats what you want to vote for I you know you’re entitled to your own opinion Oh God! Okay voted Here’s the thing I learned from voting for the first time and thankfully last night Jenna and I were doing some research on things that you’re supposed to be voting for and the different acts and things like that I can guarantee that most of the people voting don’t even know what the heck they are voting for which makes me extremely concerned for the fact that people are just checking boxes for things that they don’t even know so like yeah your vote counts but like if you don’t know what you’re actually voting for I don’t think you should even vote at all Which is one of the reasons why I wanted to vote this year because you can’t complain about something if you didn’t actually have a voice in making the decision So I felt that it was only fair that if I wanted to complain about who actually wins this election I need to have at least tried my best to do my part and say “Hey this is what I want” and I’m gonna hope for the best *laughs* Hee Hee do you know that you have a sticker on your head? Do you know that you got sticker on your head? Honey, you hate me don’t you? I did my voting deed Again I said this so many times No matter who it is that you voted for, be kind to each other because that is really the only hope that we have left Even though this election is over no matter who is elected we still will have another four years with them So we have to attempt to make the best of whatever situation that we’re thrown into So friends Happy election day I’m gonna edit this video and I’m gonna play Call of Duty to forget everything I’ll see you guys later bye
It’s a good day to be a pirate. Amaro and his four mateys, Bart, Charlotte, Daniel, and Eliza have struck gold: a chest with 100 coins. But now, they must divvy up the booty
according to the pirate code. As captain, Amaro gets to propose
how to distribute the coins. Then, each pirate,
including Amaro himself, gets to vote either yarr or nay. If the vote passes, or if there’s a tie,
the coins are divided according to plan. But if the majority votes nay, Amaro must walk the plank and Bart becomes captain. Then, Bart gets to propose
a new distribution and all remaining pirates vote again. If his plan is rejected,
he walks the plank, too, and Charlotte takes his place. This process repeats, with the captain’s hat moving to Daniel
and then Eliza until either a proposal is accepted
or there’s only one pirate left. Naturally, each pirate wants to stay alive
while getting as much gold as possible. But being pirates,
none of them trust each other, so they can’t collaborate in advance. And being blood-thirsty pirates, if anyone thinks they’ll end up
with the same amount of gold either way, they’ll vote to make the captain
walk the plank just for fun. Finally, each pirate is excellent
at logical deduction and knows that the others are, too. What distribution should Amaro
propose to make sure he lives? Pause here if you want to figure
it out for yourself! Answer in: 3 Answer in: 2 Answer in: 1 If we follow our intuition, it seems like Amaro should try to bribe
the other pirates with most of the gold to increase the chances of his plan
being accepted. But it turns out he can do
much better than that. Why? Like we said, the pirates all know
each other to be top-notch logicians. So when each votes, they won’t just
be thinking about the current proposal, but about all possible outcomes
down the line. And because the rank order is known
in advance, each can accurately predict how the others
would vote in any situation and adjust their own votes accordingly. Because Eliza’s last, she has the most
outcomes to consider, so let’s start by following
her thought process. She’d reason this out by working
backwards from the last possible scenario with only her and Daniel remaining. Daniel would obviously propose
to keep all the gold and Eliza’s one vote would not be
enough to override him, so Eliza wants to avoid this situation
at all costs. Now we move to the previous decision point with three pirates left
and Charlotte making the proposal. Everyone knows that if she’s outvoted,
the decision moves to Daniel, who will then get all the gold
while Eliza gets nothing. So to secure Eliza’s vote, Charlotte only needs to offer her
slightly more than nothing, one coin. Since this ensures her support, Charlotte doesn’t need to offer Daniel
anything at all. What if there are four pirates? As captain, Bart would still only need
one other vote for his plan to pass. He knows that Daniel wouldn’t want
the decision to pass to Charlotte, so he would offer Daniel one coin
for his support with nothing for Charlotte or Eliza. Now we’re back at the initial vote
with all five pirates standing. Having considered all the other scenarios, Amaro knows that if he goes overboard, the decision comes down to Bart, which would be bad news
for Charlotte and Eliza. So he offers them one coin each,
keeping 98 for himself. Bart and Daniel vote nay, but Charlotte and Eliza
grudgingly vote yarr knowing that the alternative
would be worse for them. The pirate game involves some interesting
concepts from game theory. One is the concept of common knowledge where each person is aware of what
the others know and uses this to predict their reasoning. And the final distribution is an example
of a Nash equilibrium where each player knows every other
players’ strategy and chooses theirs accordingly. Even though it may lead to a worse
outcome for everyone than cooperating would, no individual player can benefit
by changing their strategy. So it looks like Amaro gets to keep
most of the gold, and the other pirates might need
to find better ways to use those impressive logic skills, like revising this absurd pirate code.
then — You know it really hamstrung what the Republicans wanted to do. So this time around it’s the Democrats and I think they’ll all hold together and they will get it passed. But again there’s this last minute effort to say let’s not pass anything until we really actually know what’s in it in. So there we go we will wait and see yep a little bit later here on news now well. And sad news though — Obviously today is Valentine’s day a good memory for a lot of loved ones out there but in this day also marks. Very sad moment there in Florida is this is the one year anniversary. Of the parkland — Really the massacre that happened there at that high school just one year ago seventeen people died. So many aspects to this story hard to believe that you resource officer on failed into the building and engage the shooter and we’ll never know how many more lives were lost because of that particular man’s actions. He’s tried to defend himself but the simple fact is — If he had to engage that shooter that’s why they always say good guy with a gun — Can potentially take out a bad guy with the gun and the they thought they had the right system in place. And it didn’t happen and seventeen students. And teachers died another about an equal number were wounded and you can read some of the stories online matters if they’re just so heartbreaking. You know Mike — In terms of actual number of fatalities there was a call in shooting. Many years prior that not everybody remembers that it happened on the beautiful campus of Virginia Tech in sand. In that particular instance the total number of victims was — If I recall a little over. Thirty and it was or near thirty and it was — So shocking when it happened I was on that campus — I’ve got some family that live nearby and we went over to campus to see the memorial. And it’s just the heart. Ache of parents who had left notes and messages. To their kids were slaughtered that day of Virginia Tech. Cultures all of their lives for the rest of all of their lives you have one love the one who loses their life you have a mother and a father a grandma and grandpa. And on calls brothers sisters. So it is for everybody goes out in those waves like that so here you have in this. One a high school over seventeen died and hundreds and hundreds of lives. Have been forever changed as a result no it is interesting Ron Disentis did come forward — Earlier this morning to say we do want to do a review because Rick Scott governor at the time put a number of measures into place to try to make schools. Safer and no longer be the target of something as horrendous as this and the new governor says we need to do a review and make sure all schools all counties all districts. Are following through on what the state did instruct them they had to do they’ve had a year to kind of gear up so. We should see that report for early in that one made this just so sad there one year ago they they was almost. Time. For school to let me letting out. It was almost the end of the afternoon there for so many students and you got to think. They have plans for Valentine’s day to to go out with friends maybe — Though sure people that they’re dating and I don’t know where this tragedy just struck that school there. In the alley we’re saying lives shattered forever yeah. Well we will see a number vigils we certainly ice — You you we’ve seen the memorial grow and park is gathered to remember and there’s even an event — Here locally in the valley as well and it’ll be it’ll be repeated all over the nation today yes it will yes it will land in Washington DC right now mourners. Gathering together or for a former representative John Dingell who served almost sixty years as your representative in Michigan you’re taking a live look at here. Funeral there beautiful service and a little bit later later we’ll show you our former president Bill Clinton a very touching eulogy. One of the things that Bill Clinton always had going for him right from the start when he burst onto the scene — Politically nationally as actually at one point kind of a little known governor from Arkansas. The people connected with was his ability to connect with people house he seem to have the kind of empathy — Where people would feel after meeting with them one on one or in a group setting that he really understood — What you were going through — And that has — That has been one of his attributes for a very long time. And Mike you had a chance to actually listen in. Part of this eulogy and you said it was pretty touching and talks a little bit. About his life and really all of pretty much everything that he touched in Congress. For years& thinking you got there in nineteen fifty five I think of the things he saw from while from the civil rights. All the way to the in the on unfortunate fascination of JFK is up. So much in Washington man on the moon also in the sixties while. In so many things that we saw through the seventies as ell the energy the energy crisis. The oil embargo I mean there was a time in this country where you really didn’t even know where you can go to buy your next gallon of gasoline. That was a real and then of course Richard Nixon and the first — Impeachment of a president — Lease the process was and he just resigned first time ever a president had resigned — At all the ups and downs. Ronald Reagan no in his years anyway John Dingell saw it all yes he really really that they’re using a live look. Right there speaker Nancy Pelosi and others right now paying their respects. Right now their lives in Washington. All right everybody now we have some business news that we want to get you while we take a look right here at the markets right now down eighty nine points so it is making. A comeback right now but we do want to tell you I I was — Hoping to get this video — But we won’t have that but that’s okay we’re talking about Amazon right now and a major change coming there to New York City remember they were the ones that we’re going to get the the half of the the the new headquarters. For Amazon. To be looking — To this is after really a large protests happening really the day after all they were announced. So they just came out with the announcement within this past hour. And only the concerns were after their The New York governor. Warned that — Leaders were going to have to answer to the voters if Amazon didn’t bring twenty five thousand jobs. To the state — But the they started looking cat backing out of there plans because polls show that about 70%. Of people. Amazon said 70% support us being here but a growing number apparently politicians. We’re starting to come out saying they oppose our presence. They’re not going to work with us to build relationships there to work for I work required going forward — You know so I mean they had they had received a lot of incentive. And if they were going to start going back on some of those incentives are if they weren’t going to follow through on some of the infrastructure etcetera. Here’s the thing my I was visiting with a friend of mine in Seattle which is where they’re headed cordon yeah — Along to go. And he said that when Amazon was getting to feel more and more like they were not even welcome in the city of Seattle which is where they were found it which is their headquarters — And no the mayor — At one point said no we don’t hardly talk to him you know we don’t have much of a dialogue but we will we will. Talk and you have one of the largest companies in the world and they don’t have a very good relationship so it was not a shock when the news came out. H. Q. too because they really frankly. There are a lot of reasons they were they didn’t feel that welcome — In Seattle a lot of folks thought that the the mobile skyrocketing real estate prices in making it almost too expensive for a lot of people live better — But you know so at the same time you had a lot of people saying gosh I mean it’s providing so many jobs. And others were saying yeah but they’re they’re causing problems to our economy. Another politicians were starting to put the pressure on the governor and upon this on the city — That they were making enough noise and Amazon’s just said. Yeah so they’re going to basically just have their headquarters in Washington DC I did hear reports from fox — That mention Nashville. So they made do some beefing up all the offices that they already have — There in Nashville as well but I think this might think about all the cities towns that went through the whole dog and pony. Show to try to impress Amazon enough who really would have been willing to work with them. To provide those level that level of jobswe were talking about two so yes at one point two cell was interesting new magic. Twenty five thousand new jobs good paying jobs in the heart of downtown Tucson it would transform them old Connell totally — And there were a lot of other cities to really look at it as an opportunity to really boosted their economies. It was weird when the announcement came out and just made it seem right from the start like they just want to be in the two biggest. Of two of the big. Kind of made sense he as a lawyer in prose and New York City on tuition [inaudible] For yeah [inaudible] Yeah. No kidding it’s not been a great year. That’s for sure things not working out. Okay well we before we take a break okay we tease that deputies in Iran take a look now this is if you’re looking if you mind a messed up. Maybe a couple weeks ago with your loved. One you know is Valentine’s day and it is the time to really show your invoice. Take a look at this arose bone came. This is a massive one hundred roses rot. That’s incredible and so you know you can most guys know they can — A dozen roses will get the job done it’ll bring a smile to the face of your wife or girlfriend that kind of thing — So you know some guys will try. To one for this is All Honduras [inaudible] Rose. Hello Lee yeah and comes with a price tag of three ninety nine ninety nine yeah man. That thou art photo journalist Tom for his was on and there appears on a flower market earlier this morning one of the things that that was really cool I was not aware prior to today’s report. That you can do this. Guys can actually show up like men or women could show up and create their own both okay right on the spot it’s nice to get it all done up. And go so make your own custom one yeah you can now I should just point out you can probably go to most floors and asked them to do the very same throw — But that gives it an extra special time right because it comes from your own heart right right exactly classic. Very touching smoking with the smoking spoken like a true romance. Yeah right here right here and there yeah all right around thanks so much. Top stories here the day will be back more news now coming up next awful there in Florida a lf people just enjoying the great day how they’re they got a blue skies out there something that we don’t have right now in the valley expecting a little rain a little bit later. Coming up on this Valentine’s day hi everyone my pager welcome back to news now as we continue to always bring in these top stories and headlines. From across the country thank you so much for joining us here today we really do appreciate and all right right now we’re going to go for a little bit to the Senate floor right now where there are continuing. To debate the Attorney General nominee and William Barr. Anne a federal contractor in to lose any wrote to me. I am losing wages that I count on each month to make significant payments towards my student loans and contributions to my savings including my retirement savings. I can honestly say I have never thought I’d be applying for unemployment especially as a thirty one year old but today. I did just that. All right the switch gears a little bit now they are — Talking about the economy a little Senate with creating this crisis and we should all be able to come together in a bipartisan way to make sure that these federal contract employees receive back pay. So I stand here today to say I’m going to continue working to get this bill passed and I look forward to continuing to work with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle. To find a path forward . Senator from New Hampshire is recognized — Mister president. We hope to vote on a bipartisan bicameral agreement. That will fully fund the government and provide additional measures to strengthen border security. I want to applaud the all of the members of the conference committee. Who worked on this agreement? Really want to recognize those Senate members and led by chairman Shelby and vice chairman Leahy. For negotiating a bipartisan compromise that will keep the government stores open. Neither side got everything. They want. That’s why it’s called the compromise. But in the end. Fully funding the government and keeping it open is what’s best for the American people. What we saw during the thirty five day government shutdown was that it took a terrible toll on our federal workers? And it costs the US economy eleven billion dollars including three billion dollars that’s gone forever according to the Congressional Budget Office. Across the country. Federal workers have been very anxiously waiting to see if we were going to come to an agreement. If they’re gonna be able to continue to pay their mortgages for groceries get the prescriptions. Well today hopefully. We can put their minds at ease. We can pass this legislation and hopefully the president. Will sign it. Because failure to do so would once again deprive Americans of important government services and throw our economy into a tailspin. So I urge all of our colleagues. In Congress to take up this funding legislation. To pass it. And the president to sign it as soon as it reaches his desk. Protecting our borders should not be an exercise in partisanship and I’m glad to see that this bill supports common sense investments that focus on the technology. Infrastructure and personnel that are needed at the southern and northern borders to provide actual security that works. The bill provides one point three seven five billion for targeted fencing and vulnerable areas along the southern border. And more than eight hundred million. For border better surveillance and screening technologies and increased security at our ports of entry. One resource and deployed appropriately these types of smart investments are far more likely to interrupt the flow and flow of narcotics. Than a costly and ineffective border wall. Importantly the legislation also includes seventy seven million for opioid equipment and staffing to interdict fennel. And other synthetic opioids that are shipped through international mail and express consignment facilities and this is particularly important to states like mine at New Hampshire where we have the second highest overdose death rate. From opioids in the country. And so many of those deaths are calls caused by the synthetics in. Fenton off. The opioid epidemic is a true national emergency and federal investments like these are what’s needed to stop the illegal flow of these drugs into the country. Now when Congress takes seven passes the steel that will not only pass the appropriations bill for the department of homeland security. But also six other appropriations bills that. Unfortunately been waylaid by are shut down. This appropriations package supports critical federal investments across. All government agencies and I want to highlight just a few of those starting with the program is funded in the bipartisan commerce justice and science and related agencies appropriations bill for the fiscal year. Twenty nineteen as ranking member of the C. J. S. subcommittee. I work closely with my colleague senator Moran from Kansas who chairs the subcommittee. And we crafted what I believe is a truly bipartisan bill that will promote the economy. Protect the American people and secure our nation’s leadership and science and innovation innovation [inaudible] For example. The fiscal year nineteen C. J. S. bill provides four hundred and sixty eight million dollars and dedicated. Justice department grant programs to tackle the opioid epidemic. The legislation will provide funding to state and local governments and those organizations working on the front lines. Providing a blanced approach of law enforcement treatment and recovery resources to help our communities who are dealing with opioid and fennel deaths. This amount is twenty one million dollars higher than the FY eighteen level and three hundred and thirty six million higher than the president’s budget request. For communities desperately fighting the opioid addiction. Any further delay in funding is dangerous and could be deadly. So it’s critical that we pass this bill today. Importantly the legislation also contains the highest funding level ever for the office of violence against women. Four hundred ninety seven and a half million dollars for critical programs that provide training for police officers and prosecutors. Great prevention programs and funding for women’s shelters. Well I’m glad that the appropriate. When we come back here on news now it’s been one year since the tragic massacre that happen in parkland Florida? We’ll talk live to fox news is Phil Keating there to see how the community. Is coping one year later. Biggest fear stream of all right Phil is my creation Phoenix can hear me one year later after the horrible massacre that happened. In parkland Florida killing seventeen people in a mass shooting and now. To give us an update to and how the community is doing fox news is Phil Keating joins us live filled how you doing. Hi Mike well it’s a summer day here parkland Florida without a doubt people that live here. And live with the consummate are of what happened in this building behind me exactly one year ago today — They call it to different degrees share sadness and pain especially the parents the families who lost their sons and daughters. Of interviewed Andrew Pollack yesterday and he was telling me he lost his daughter meadow who. Was just about to graduate high school. You said look February fourteenth doesn’t mean anything to me every day is a day of loss everyday should not there. So we also talk with the teacher yesterday — And she was there for the gun shots of her classroom had about twenty nine students in it when the shooting started. By the end of the carnage there were sixty five kids in there she had rounded them up and open the door let them get in there to hide and so for her it’s just a day of anxiety for sure pharmacy and they have the big Valentine’s day set up. So the balloons and all the flowers she says even that triggers memories of what happened and what the experience was inside her classroom here Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school. At ten seventeen AM just about a little more than two hours ago that was the moment of silence county wide here in Broward county every classroom all the students and teachers. All took a moment of silence in fact down to the edge of the school property there’s a flower Memorial flower beds — Colorful flowers people had gathered around to place flowers there and they all stood in very silently honored and made a tribute. To the seventeen students and staff who lost their lives as well as the seventeen who were wounded in. In large part still are recovering from what happened a year ago like. And for the in fill what is — What is changed during — The from the past year for the school as far as a they take in this past year. There is now a single point of entry for all students of the teachers also have their own single point of entry they’re already had prior. Bent — Previously had been a a perimeter fence around the school property there’s now an interior fans — Would which actually locks electronically so security measures have definitely been beefed up at the state law changed — To you can no longer buy a long. Gone now rifle. The one years old. I used to be that just for hand got — Twenty one and schools are all now required to have at least one arm [inaudible] Resource. Guardian at the school property every single day a lot of the safety to school — Schools are still being implemented here by the school district — Of course for families it’s never fast enough — I can tell you also today was designated to be a day of service and love so this morning several dozen high schoolers here fad local responders. Breakfast to thank them for everything what they did for them. One year ago today they’re also down in the park nearby making meals for needy children. And the county really. Focusing all the students to focus on service and love on this one day to play. In a if you have a degree. To everybody who lost their lives on that day. Lives without it out might still heavily impacting absolutely there seventeen families there forever changed Phil Keating five there in parkland Florida thank you so much [inaudible] Thanks bye. I will be back more news now next [inaudible] Yeah. Yeah I think he felt [inaudible] Yeah right former or representan Dingell who served almost sixty years in Congress representing a mission again this is the live look here of the funeral but we when I want to do now is show you. How about an hour ago former president Bill Clinton giving him very — Emotional eulogy let’s listen in [inaudible] Jones family. Thank you for loving him. Thank you. For giving. Hillary and me the chance to be here. Order someone we loved and admired. What have we follow? Thank you for going to Congress. And continuing the service. Have a great name in a new era. Thanks for making the last forty years could for him. Can you get from the and hide bound. I watched him change and grow. To the very end. Want to thank John staff supporters colleagues from. Overall the decades were here today — In different ways. Made is were possible. Many of whom honor his legacy through your own service [inaudible] Madam speaker. Majority Leader horror stricken manner. Congressman Lewis congressman Upton. All the serving members who are here. Forty say don’t think we owe to John. To be honest. One of the reasons none of us would have missed us. This is the only time. In our entire lives in public service. That we were in the same room with John Dingell. And got the last word . The service the member in moving to me. Many of us had the chance to talk to John not. We probably talked a little I don’t know just a little over twenty four hours before he passed away. And I was so grateful. That his mind was clear. And this. Was strong. The determination was he said you know I’m not done yet. And he didn’t know if he was gonna live one hour a week or whatever. The idea was. You run the horse. Till races over. And all of us. Those of us who are not on a whole. We will remember that [inaudible] He was [inaudible] The remarkable [inaudible] Man. That is all of you have said. The patriot in some. Cases without fear in his shoe America. You spend more time in the Congress. Trying to fulfill the founders and the nation to form a more perfect union. That anyone else [inaudible] But eight in this time there. One of the things that I was always amazes he managed to find a way to have a good time. Fill in our like many of you we can remember almost every time. We never been willing. And every casual. Conversation we had. I treasure those things. I’ve been in and out of line with him when it was so cold. The ducks would come out. We should look on the right sid. It’s save us from a lot of criticism from the animal rights people. Campaigning form and one of the rare examples. One it looks like you might get a lesson on a personal. I sat in the rotunda in the castle when he was. Honored by breaking the longer service record. Many of you have. Commented on how being his friend entitled kittens. Your heart ripped off from time shown. You have to understand that’s in part the mark of an honest friendship. If you think yur friend is wrong you sell. Both of us have experienced thi. Exquisite [inaudible] Example affection. He never smoke around behind your back. He didn’t say one thing to your face. And then call somebody to get a little for us to do something else. John day who was a stand up guy he got out of the Senate of the game. Straight ahead. He was an old fashioned man. Who did things in an old fashioned way? We should adapt for new times. The fall like crazy. But he always asked himself at the end. Okay I’m not in the majority for I am in the majority. Now are we going. To the thing I love most about him was that he was a world class. Do or he understood the trustee was given. As a member of Congress representing is people. Was first and foremost a job. In the job. Required him to show up. And do something. For which he could give an accounting. To the people who are. And so. We did this is to this we tried this system itself so we did this because this is still possible. All it takes but he also understood. Not everyone would is it would agree with him and if you believe in the constitution the United States. That that was a good thing you would give us. A better stronger country. As long as we continue to see each other forces people [inaudible] People first. And then figure out what we could do. I don’t know if all of you read his memoirs with it it’s funny he was so busy doing things. He didn’t have time to write his memoirs silly was over. Ninety the card is published last December. And I was looking through it again last night and I thought you know. Friday was run out of town so we sort of short circuit the last. Twenty five years. She had so much to talk about [inaudible] But there’s one passages sums up the book and industrial [inaudible] And out of deference to our presence in this. Historic holy place. And with all the clergy here I think I will have. To for a some of the more [inaudible] He wrote. I served in the house for fifty nine years in twenty one days. The record for continuous service in the United States Congress. Something that seems to impress a lot of people. I am not one of them. Quite frankly I don’t care about records any fool can sit in the chair of space [inaudible] It is. It is what you do. Winter time that matters. Hello this crowd and I see so many of you that. I had the honor to serve with. Members of both parties I can tell you things we did [inaudible] Together. John Dingell was just about the best new or in the history of American public life. Since nineteen fifty five that’s a long time ago. Until a little. He had a hand in just about. Every important. Contribution. The following are family. Followed our founders admonitio. To form a more perfect union. Kenny was good about doing this when he was in the minority. As well as when he was and the majority. I remember. I was. Pulled out the notes to make sure I’m a memory was all it was done. In. Nineteen ninety six the telecommunications act was the first bill. Ever signed in the library of Congress. Because we thought we were riding a positive communications manifesto. Several years. It was a highly complicated build. Communications law not been overall in sixty years. And the John and many of our Democrats want to make sure that there was ample room. For competition. To keep the rates as low as possible in the services what is possible. And the the war with German Miley and he spoke that day. And the library of Congress as the one nor the leader of that committee [inaudible] Because he was interested in getting something done. His long loyalty that healthcare is legendary but in the end. What counts even more than is honoring his father was that he was there for Medicare and Medicaid he was there? For the children’s health insurance program he was there. For the affordable Care Act. He version is saying. That his favorite job involving service. Was a summer job between junior and senior year in. College. As a park ranger and rocky mountain national park. Four fifty nine years. He order be sure future generations. Could enjoy America’s national treasure. As far as I know. He supported the efforts of every. Administration Democrat and Republican legislative or executive to preserve and land. And then he became obsessed with public health. He supported president Nixon in the creation of the environmental protection agency. Judge facial Helton’s safety agency. The support of the clean water and clean air act the Endangered Species Act. The older just say a couple of things about. His record on civil rights. It is true that he endangered his seat in Congress by voting for the civil rights act of nineteen sixty four his Polish immigrants [inaudible] Catholic heritage. His study of social justice with the Jesuits of history. Did not permit him. Full of the ladder of opportunity. Just because he had climbed [inaudible] And he was doing this a long time before. This over rice mill was voted. In his first term in Congress i. Nineteen fifty six he sponsored an anti lynching bill. Fair housing will. In a bill to eliminate the poll tax. Get someone who grew up in a slight. The poll tax was used. To control blood flow. That meant a lot to me. But he became a particular hero of mine when I was. Only about thirteen years old. In [inaudible] Nineteen fifty nine congressman Dingell. Soon before the fearsome speaker Sam right. And jetted to what is normally routine. The seating of all the new members. At the same time. Because one of them was a congressman from my native state Arkansas. Who had defeated? The sitting member. For supporting the integration of little rock Central High School. In a medium on a write in campaign in which people. We’re allowed to printed stickers on the ballot even though the law and provide. For there were other interesting a regular release. It sounds awful little procedural build. I think it’s very important. You might think of John Dingell is [inaudible] Yesterday’s man. He was not afraid as a young ma. To reduce the our own people who could have wrecked his effectiveness. To make a point. That no one should gain automatic transmission to the house. If elected. Under a system that was not genuinely democratic [inaudible] Finally. In nineteen sixty one I told Congress Lewis’s. John Dingell accepted. An invitation. To go to the union Baptist church in Atlanta Georgia. To speak to the end of the laci. Three it’s for a good gig for a Polish kid from Michigan. And the lady who was doing the I was trying to do a favor for a young lawyer she thought I needed some help because he was my can only thirty five dollars a week at the time. Two and much money even in. Nineteen sixty one so she let this young lawyer. News John Dingell. And Vernon Jordan did a very good job of tell me that to this very day. Just another one of Jon’s kids in his career really took off [inaudible] Responding. Dealers last day on earth [inaudible] John Dingell [inaudible] Was doing. When he is? But it wouldn’t work anymore. In his mind wouldn’t stop. He turned to America’s national obsession [inaudible] Tweeting. Jane maze and master. You should read if you have a collection of John’s. Greatest. Hits. I mean it’s then mastery [inaudible] You were [inaudible] Much wisdom. And if you don’t pay attention you’ll Mrs. He honored the people who sent in the Congress. For fifty nine years. Keeping the site [inaudible] Doing [inaudible] And doing. And do. We give thanks for is longer life. But the real thing we have to do is to honor him now as he charged us and his last letter. He often quoted. What I used to joke with his good friend Benjamin Franklin? After the constitutional convention when asked what. We had been left. He said a Republic if you can keep [inaudible] So now. He’s done all he could. Help us keep. The greatest honor we could ever give him. Suspend water years we have left [inaudible] We to the last day [inaudible] By John [inaudible] Finally. You were in that place a more perfect union. For all god’s children. No well it feels. To be free [inaudible] Thank you . Been sitting for a long time let’s take a moment now to stan. In for a are being — Nominated for Attorney General this is of voting going on right now many as forty nine yes votes to thirty five no votes. So you just need one more remote there — To will to actually to clinch it over but he will get that. Senate confirmation for the second time to serve as Attorney General you are watching here news Alberta box in Phoenix dot com and Hulu later. On facts and Phoenix dot com we will I have the Senate vote. And border wall funding — With that border package deal that is one point four billion dollars much different than the five point seven billion. President trump asked for but that is what is being handed right now so the Senate in the house will vote on that a little bit later. This afternoon I everyone might page you’re welcome the news now happy Valentine’s day to everybody — If you all a very fun plans — With your loved ones here the news with the center for show you some of that was happening was kick it off. With senator Chuck Schumer conference committee to keep the government open as well as provide additional border security. Once again I want to applaud the members of the conference committee and their staffs. They were the note here. And they did outstanding work nights and weekends to reach an agreement. We knew. That if the conference committee was allowed to work they could bring us together. The agreement as a validation of the idea when you put members of both parties in a room to negotiate in good faith. When everyone’s willing to give and take progress is never out of reach? So again I thank the members of the committee. The agreements a reasonable compromise. It provides additional funding for smart effective border security. It does not fund the president’s wall but it does find smart border security initiatives. That both parties have always supported. Including increased security at our ports of entry and humanitarian assistance at the border. Most importantly it will keep our government open. Everyone I believe including the president. Wants to avoid a repeat of what happened before Christmas. Everyone wants to avoid another senseless government shut down. I expect the Congress will pass this some time this afternoon. And president trump should sign it. Immediately. Now on another subject madam president [inaudible] This morning. Hi challenge leader McConnell. To say. That our climate change crisis Israel. That it is caused by humans. And that Congress needs to act. Let me elaborate. The Republican leader fashions himself as someone who doesn’t waste time with political stunt. I’m not sure I could count the number of times he shrugged off a piece of legislation. By calling it quote a futile gesture. Because the president won’t sig. Will because he thinks it would be a waste of this and it’s tim. And yet on Tuesday. The Republican leader announced. He would bring his green new deal resolution up for a vote because quote. He wants to make sure everybody has to has the opportunity to go on record and see how they feel. About it [inaudible] On court. Knowing full well his entire party. Will vote against it including himself and then it won’t pass. Since the Republicans took control of this chamber in. Twenty fifteen they have not brought a single Republican bil. To meaningfully reduce carbon emissions to the floor of the Senate not one bill. Republicans in control this chamber for four years and not a single bill. To significantly reduce carbon emissions. Madam president was supposed to conduct the business of the nation. Was supposed to tackle our country’s greatest challenge well climate change. Is the number one threat to our planet. And yet not a single Republican be dresses climate change in a meaningful way to reach the floor not. One in fact. The Republican majority is spent the Senate’s time on legislation that would make climate change even worse. In one instance. The Republican leader move to repeal of common sense and vital program to reduce methane emissions. And it failed only because a few brave Republicans. Joined all the Democrats in voting no [inaudible] So now. With amazing irony. The first measure to address climate change from the Republican leader the first one in forty years. Will be one that he wants all of its members to vote against. Let me say that again. The Republican leader announced he’s going to bring up a resolution. He intends to vote against. Now that is what the American people hate about Congress. The pointless partisan games. Next time you see a congressional approval level hovering around 15% don’t ask why. This is why. Leader McConnell proposing resolutions so we can vote against them and never proposing anything on this subject climate change that’s constructive. I hope the American people are paying attention. Because they need to see what’s going on here. The American people need to see. That this is all there is to the Republican plan to change to deal with climate change this is all they can muster. A political stunt. Not designed to make progress. Not designed to move the ball ball forward. They’re bringing a resolution forward. So they can vote against it. This gene cynical ploy. Evidently represents the sum total of Senate Republicans leadership on the vital issue of climate change. An issue that cries out for serious engagement. By members of both parties. But rather than seriously engage on the issue. Our Republican colleagues are taking a page from president trump’s petty playbook. Trying to make this a game of political gotcha. They’re taking their lead from the president. A man who was so willfully ignorant and foolish that he thinks he’s clever. By ridiculing the global scientific consensus on climate change whenever it snows [inaudible] Well. The American people are not laughing. They weren’t laughing when a U. S. senator brought a snowball to the floor. Of this chamber to mock climate science. They were laughing when president trump. Cold climate change a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. The rest of the world isn’t laughing either. Now when basically every country in the world including Syria North Korea Iran. While working together to reduce carbon emissions while the trump administration has forced the United States to sit on the sidelines. I would say to our Republican colleagues. This is no gain. It is no joke. Climate change is deadly seriou. And the time for all of us to treat it that way is now. Before it is too late. So when the Republican leader says he wants to bring the green new deal resolution up for a vote I say. Go for it. Bring it on you think it might embarrass Democrats to vote on a nine month non binding resolution as some of us may support but not others. Trust me will be fine. Because the American people kno. That our entire party actually believes the climate changes happening. And it’s caused by humans. We actually believe the consensus of the worldwide scientific community. That climate change is an existential threat to this planet. One that threatens not only our children and our grandchildren. But all of us right now. And we actually believe that we need to do something. About climate change. Two Republicans believe that if. Two Republicans agree with the overwhelming consensus in the scientific community. Does leader McConnell. I seriously want to know and so do the American people. So today. I am issuing a challenge to the Majority Leader. I don’t do this often. My colleagues know I’d rather work in a bipartisan way on climate change but his stunt. Is cynical stunt. Demands a response. I challenge leader McConnell. To say that our climate change crisis Israel. That it is caused by humans. And that Congress needs to act. That is what two thirds of the American people agree with two thirds. My strong suspicion unfortunately however is that McConnell can’t say that and won’t. Leader McConnell is voted six times. Again sense of the Senate resolutions that climate change is real. And human activities contributed to it. He’s Dodge the issue time and time again. But maybe his opinion is change. So when the comet leader McConnell brings his green new deal resolution forward for a vote. We Democrats demand our own amendment votes. Let’s see if anything has changed since twenty fifteen when only five brave Republicans were able to vote yes. On a resolution saying climate change is real and caused by humans. Two of them. Aren’t even here anymore. Its leader McConnell blocks amendments. Will know where he and his party stand. Against science against fact. Ostriches with their heads and as the tide comes in. Its leader McConnell allows amendments allows an actual real debate on climate change. We’ll see which of our Republican friends are finally ready to admit. That climate change is real. It’s happening right now. And are ready. To act on it. Unlike what leader McConnell is proposing that. Would be actual progress. I yield the floor. Senator from Rhode Island let me start by thanking. Leadership — Murder for his. Incredible remarks this morning. There is a surge of energy around this issue he has represented that surge of energy very well. He challenged the other side of the aisle to bring it on let me sign up right now as a proud member of the bring it on caucu. Bring it on in deed we are looking forward to this conversation on our side. It is clear that the people of America what action the polling is immensely strong on this issue it is clear that the people of America. See this issue in their daily lives this is not academic theory any longer they see the wild fires they see the drought since the the floods a sea to sea level rise they see the fish moving about. This is in their own lives now and the a vast majority. Of Americans. Say that they are and this is the word in the poll worried. About climate change. And the world. Has reported that. They see this is the number one issue. Facing the world’s security so against a backdrop. Of an active engaged in knowledgeable American population and a world that is looking for the U. S. to leadership the city on a hill. What do we get? From the Republican majority here in the Senate [inaudible] We get. A new bill. A measure brought to the floor. The first time as leader shimmer pointed out. That the Republican controlled majority is brought. Any [inaudible] Meaningful legislation related to climate change to the floor. They intend to vote against. Who brings the bill to the floor that you intend to vote against? I would start possibly sincere. Or a serious. And what is your alternative. If you don’t like the green new deal what’s your plan where is there one the fact of the matte. Is that since the citizens United decision. And since the fossil fuel industry powered up. The call out for its. There is now no Republican senator. In the Senate. Who has co sponsored any serious bill? To significantly reduce carbon dioxide emissions. They stay away from this issue like the plague [inaudible] There’re. The world has changed around us. The twenty twenty election is already begun in many respects voters are alert to this. A democratic house is ready to produce real legislation meaningful legislation with a lock actually on the house side somewhat bipartisan legislation. And here in the Senate the blockade continues and the only measure brought to the floor is a trick vote that its sponsors will actually voted against. That is a prophetic statement. Of where our friends on the other side are on this I hope this actually turns into a breakthrough moment. In which there’s some serious conversations on the other side to say this is not tenable. This is ridiculous we are going to be embarrassed by this. But on our side. Bring it on yield the floor [inaudible] Mister president. American assistant from Hawaii. Thank you Mr president our friends on the other side of the aisle and the Republicans are. Misreading the moment [inaudible] The planet. Is an emergency situation instead of coming to the table. With ideas on how to fix it and they are running the same way that they always run and that i- Idea. Investing in clean energy may be making college more affordable making the tax code more fair. And they try to characterize it as a liberal project. So that people. Put on their partisan uniforms. Because our ideas. Are popular and what they’ve done recently our ideas is a socialism your internet as well if you do all these things. I know you think you want affordable college I know you think you want. I’m an action I know you think you want to not get ripped off by the tax code but that would cause you to be Venezuela. This is the play they run every time and they run in with cover from the Wall Street journal’s editorial board and fox news to try to trick the American people into opposing ideas. That they actually like. And that’s what’s happening with is not. On mining resolute Sir. Millions are trying to take. Under the frequently asked questions a document. That was posted on a new member of congress’ website and subsequently taken down and disavowed. Make you believe that that’s what Democrats want to do when it comes to climate action they want to believe that we want to take away ice cream and aviation and everything that’s good in the world. Because they know that their position on climate change. Is absolutely untenable and I read over the last couple of days some you know. What we call a very serious people in Washington DC sort of marveling at leader McConnell’s trolling exercise? This is supposed to be the world’s greatest deliberative body it’s not Twitter. This is supposed to be where we solve the greatest problems facing the United States. This is not where we troll each other this is where we’re supposed to have. A great debate. Senate Democrats have done all sorts of work on climate the ITC in the P. T. C. for solar and wind conservation and efficiency carbon pricing fighting deforestation. And some Republicans do not have the high ground here. They’re trying to make this a partisan exercise. Where you have several news organizations churning because they don’t want to deal with climate change? If the Senate Republican leadership wants to bring up anything about climate. I echo the words of senator Schumer and senator White House- We’ve never been more fired up. We’re going to take this opportunity to have a real I me. Because Republicans do not have a plan to address climate change and that’s not a rhetorical flourish and some accusation that is just an observation. They don’t have a plan to stop carbon pollution. They do not agree with 99% of the scientific community not just of this problem exist but the Congress must act. But if you look at the last session of Congress is actually worse than that. Because I want to put this in context. Last session of Congress and the two two of the worst years of weather. In United States history. In two thousand seventeen there were. About ten million acres that were burned by wildfires there& was hurricane there were hurricanes Harvey Irma and Mari. In two thousand eighteen we have the costly. Deadliest and largest wildfires California had ever seen. In these two record setting years climate change because the economy in the taxpayers billions of dollars communities all across the country struggled to rebuild and recover. People lost their lives for homes. The number of pieces of legislation that Republicans put forward to address climate change even if I thought they were inadequate even if I thought they were the wrong approach even if I thought they were. Half measures or to private sector oriented whatever the criticism might have been I can’t even make criticisms of their climate policy they see other than. Make things worse. They have allowed coal companies to leave dirty water and waste into streams without having to clean it up. They voted to make it easier for oil and mining companies to pay foreign governments. They allow the president to start the process of pulling out of the Paris accords they allowed him to begin the process of role rolling back your fuel efficiency standards. To repeal the clean power plan to prop up call even though it makes no economic sense that a lot of instances anymore. And they put up climate deniers and top science positions in the government. They put secretary sinking in charge of the department of interior and the first thing he did was open up plans for oil and gas leases. They put Scott Pruett in charge of the EPA and when he finally proved to be a political liability not for his climate policy but because of his personal. Habits they replaced him with someone with the same policies Andrew Wheeler who is literally a coal lobbyist. If you wrote all of this into a screenplay people would say that’s a little too on the nose. That’s a little too obvious this is ridiculous is not actually the way Washington works they would put a call lobbyists in terms of environmental protection agency what. They did. They did it so it’s not just the Republicans on a plan to make things better. It’s of the democratic approach is to treat this like the emergency that it is an investing clean air clean water. And smarter infrastructure. And the Republican approach is to put polluters [inaudible] Aggressively proudly. Make climate change worse. I’ve seen the right approach work in white. A decade since the demise of the sugar plantation. We relied on imports of fossil fuels for energy needs as recently as twenty ten we got more than 90%. Of our electricity from burning oil which is the dumbest way to do things it’s very expensive and very dirty. Lesson decade later we’re well on our way 21100% clean energy we address the German concerns. We ignored trolls and we move forward together we’ve quintupled clean energy lower electricity rates. And created tons of jobs. Clean energy is a future for white and it’s the future for the United States this can be done. Do not be afraid. The Republicans them the democratic ideas have put on a defense use me Republicans think the democratic ideas are no good fine. Offer a different plan. But they are the only. Major political party in the developed world. That doesn’t even believe climate change is a problem. There is no other issue where the majority party denies that. The problem exists at all not cyber security not healthcare not even income inequality. This is not tenable. And whenever a Senate Democrat or group of Senate Democrats come to the floor talk about climate change we usually have a good little group over here. And always always always make my seventh year in the United States Senate it’s always an empty chamber on the Republican side MT. The only Republican member talking to someone maybe waiting to give a speech about something else. Or the presiding officer. And that is because Republicans in the Senate have no plan at all as it relates to climate change we’ve trillions of dollars in infrastructure that needs to be addressed over the next couple of decades. We could make those investments in ways also address climate. We can offer tax breaks for clean energy we should re enter the Paris accord. They’re pulling the same plane as they always do. To make this so partisan to mock me issue itself. So that they can continue to do whistling past the graveyard. I yield the floor. As a president. I recognize sinner from Horgan Mister president. How do we make? Our communities our states our nation. Our platinum center for childre. How do we make it better for our children’s children? And their children. Isn’t that the task that we have here in the U. S. Senate. Is to make things work better. Not worse. We had this question before us. Do we have. A carbon pollution problem. What is the answer yes or no by asking to my colleagues yes or no [inaudible] Presiding today [inaudible] New member. The senator from Florida. Well I’ve been down to Florida. I’ll tell ya I heard. About the rising sea water. Polluting the offers and creating fresh water supply problems for communities in Florida. I heard about coastal erosion. I heard about coral reefs being damaged in the fish off shore [inaudible] I heard. About the toxic red algae on the girls side. Sold toxic that is killing fish. Dolphins and turtles and manatees in their washing up on the shore Florida. On the girls side. Two problems a toxic algae is creating breathing problems. I know there’s a stench arising from the dying sealife. People on the go all from Florida. Goal side of Florida. So you know we have to take him learned vacation so I know my calling presiding today that. He knows about these issues in his state. Because we sing you the impacts. Of carbon pollution. And climate chaos. Theory. Certainly see it. In my state. We see it through the more powerful forest fires hotter. More acreage more destruction. We see the smoke affecting the communities and economies throughout Oregon. Course we saw the devastating forest fires in California wiping out. The town of paradise and uplifting so many other communities. It’s not just the impact of the natural world seems to the people. When you are? The fisheries you affect the fishermen. When you are a factor for us? You affect the timber industry. When you proceed to produce conditions of? More flies more drought to fax. The farmers and ranchers of America. It’s the people of America how about the panhandle of Florida. By more powerful hurricane driven by those warmer ocean temperatures. What does one say to them? But there’s not an issue. That we don’t have a problem Jat faces fierce competition from smaller more efficient aircraft. The eight three eighties fate was sealed when amorous airlines chose to slash its core order. Magazine is out with its annual list of best companies to work for topping this year’s list is Hilton hotels rounding out the top five on the list our sales force Wegman’s food market work day and Kimpton hotels and restaurants. JD power is out with its annual list of most reliable car brands Lexus came in first for vehicles from the two thousand and sixteen model year this is the eighth straight year. That Lexus has claimed the top spot. Porsche and Toyota tied for second Chevrolet and Buick rounded out the top five in case you were wondering fiat came in last place. Log on to fox business dot com in New York I’m Tracy cross go. Thanks so much Tracy for that update and when we come back here I news now can we be going back to the moon ale I even news conference from NASA headquarters is coming up next. Human Lunan landers and if you’t worry about it gets itself on pizza and just enjoy. This evening and it’s going to be good — It’s going to be good weather just relaxing way well I’ll give you that much because we are expecting — More rain in the valley all night long and now everyone we want to go to a live event in Washington DC at NASA headquarters. Right now where we are learning a little bit more about this possible new mission. To the moon and that could include human lunar landers take a look AT Brod agency announcement. About putting humans back on the surface of the moon. And of course you’re here today because one of your your company is is interested in participating in this activity. And we’re very interested in your participation in a way tha- Maybe historically. NASA hasn’t the involved commercial industry the way we’re involving it today and I’m gonna tell you why we’re doing it. The president issued what we call space policy directive. One it says that we’re going to go back to the moon and I like to say that we’re gonna go forward to the moon we’re gonna go to the moon. In a way that we’ve never gone to the moon before. We’re gonna go with international partners to go with commercial partners. And here’s the key element we’re gonna go sustainably. In other words this time when we go to the moon we’re gonna stay so we’re not going back to the moon. To leave flags and footprints in the not go back for another fifty years we’re gonna go sustainably to stay with landers and robots and Rovers. And humans and that’s what we’re here to talk about today. We’re gonna put humans on the surface of the moon we’re gonna build an architecture we can go back and forth again and again and again. Another piece of space policy directive one is actually using the resources of the moon. It was discovered back in. Two thousand eight that there was potentially water ice on the surface the men in two thousand nine NASA did a study. And we now discover that there’s hundreds of billions of tons of water ice on the surface of the moon. So new American policy we’re going to utilize the resources of the moon water ice represents oxygen. Air to breathe that represents water to drink in other words life support. But it also represents rocket fuel hydrogen and oxygen is the same fuel that powers the space shuttles. So all in the head is abundant in hundreds of billions of tons at the polls of the moon. Sorry to go back to the moon formula for the moon where to go with international partners and with commercial pop retire risk we’re gonna prove technology. And then we’re in take as much of this as possible and replicate it. At Mars and this is all part of the president’s space policy directive one that we here at NASA. Are charged with moving out on and friends were moving out very quickly. When we think about this architecture we now have more agencies on the face of the planet than ever before? And we’ve demonstrated that with many of these agencies like on the international space station we can all do more together than anyone of us can do alone. And even better. Been having more agencies on the face of the planet than ever before. We also have more private companies more private industry that is interested in this kind of activity which enables us to do more than we’ve ever been able to do before. NASA has an objective. When we think about what we’ve already done in lower Thor but with commercial resupply? Our objective is to be one customer of many customers in a robust market place for lower Thorman. If for one customer of many customers the costs go down. But we also want to have numerous providers that are competing on cost and innovatio. And because of that access to space is going up and the cost to access to space is going down we’ve demonstrated it. With commercial resupply to the international space station were now demonstratingit this year when we watch American astronauts on American rockets for the first time since the retirement of the space shuttle in. Twenty eleven we’re gonna demonstrate this with commercial crew taking our astronauts back and forth to the international space station. So the next step is how do we take advantage of all this commercial industry. And actually apply it to the moon that’s what we’re here to talk about today. And get your feedback for this particular industry day we actually decided to open up. And let NASA TV and and of course — They’re gonna see first hand kind of what we’re up to today. And I’d like to for now turn it over o the associate administrator for the human exploration in operations mission directorate. Here at the NASA headquarters and have him talk a little bit about what this architecture is and why it’s important — And then of course all I’ll take it back from you bill but builders to admire associate administrator human exploration operations. Thank you Jim and this is kinda nontraditional force in a way we typically do industry days and we do a little more closed format than this. But this is the beginning where we really want to Jim and I wanted to kick off and kind of show you the bigger architecture that things were planning. And how we think this is very different than what we did before we went back to the moon with humans this is really sustainable this is gonna be fast we’re we’re gonna need the best and brightest from you an industry we’re gonna need the best and brightest from international. Partner community to Paul this off and we’ve we’ve got a great plan to do this it all fits under space policy directive one was sustainability. It fits under that win cooperation with industry. Commercial partners and also with international into the details later with the team’s after Jim and I leave you’ll be more of a traditional kind of industry day where. The prisoner so come up they’ll talk to you about what’s out there in — The broad agency announcement they’ll talk to you about this specific details and then other things moving forward. But kind of is part of the over arching picture let me just show you a couple pictures that are in the brought agency announcement selected in the first slide please. This is the the descent. Landing tests that we would like to do and twenty twenty four this is the reference architecture so this is what the basis is for the bride. Agency announcement — We want you to work to this to give us ideas for this activity the ideas we get proposals from you by the twenty fifth of Marc. You wait does kind of make selections in may and then the goal is to have you on contract by July will work through a six month study phase. So the ideas how do these pieces fit together how should they be designed wears a right reusability wears a right — Interfaces water the critical pieces of this but we’re also open and if there’s some other. Totally different architecture that isn’t based off of this reference plan will look at that will look at the look at that in light of the objectives the bigger objectives of sustainability open architecture in going fast. And we’ll see if it makes sense and if it meets those other bigger open architecture kind of ideas will go value waited probably in some other activity other than this broadened agency announcement but this is the right agency announcement this is a reference configuration we studied. But we’re not naive enough to think we thought of all the pieces of this we want here in it is six months and we plan to carry multiple providers to this six month period. And now is the providers are doing a study but in this for and going fast we can actually down select out of this and actually go to hardware development actually go to flight with these concepts of this is a way for us into. Into speeds aspect to look at a new acquisition approach so we see this is the the new sensor capability this demonstration we see going to gateway. We believe in twenty twenty four will be able to launch both Orion capsule and of small utilization modular gateway and that will be the docking place where the the descent lander can dock. To and it can go down and lands on on the moon and the next lin. This shows you kind of what we envision and twenty twenty six this is all three components this is the accent — Portion of the of the design. It’s also the decent peas and and also the transfer vehicle so in this ride agency now so we’re asking you to look at the descend fickle. To look at the Aston vehicle and a look at refueling and the idea there is we think there’s lots of being macro level trades that need to occur between those three elements. Were holding off on the S. and peace for a little bit because we think we can put all the human rating into the acid vehicle. You can essentially be the rescue vehicle something goes wrong on the way down to the surface of the moon you can use the Aston vehicle to get back to gateway. So that might be more of a traditional kind of approach where we place more of our requirements and this idea we believe we can open up the descent lander to be very open very. Amenable to industry standards other pieces it could be much more open architecture we can move little bit faster but we’ll get those details from you as we go through the the study phase of this activity but agai. This is kind of our concept this is the Ford and then this is a demonstration without proof that actually delivers the entire system to the surface of the moon. And then shows the Aston vehicle can go from the surface of the moon ack to gateway. And then next. Next slide please this is a twenty twenty a configuration which would be potentially with crew from gave way. Down to the surface of the moon and you can see in these images also gateway changes during this configuration we’re adding some modules to gateway is a move forward delivered by the SLS and Ryan system so this is. The basic concept you’ll get more details from the team as they come up. Described to you what’s going on to describe to you more the mechanics of of how the the acquisition works through the broad agency announcement but with that I think that that gives this kind of a good overview and I’ll turn it back over to John. Thank you bill I appreciate that overview. Couple things I want to highlight — One of the advantages of using the gateway as part of the architecture. Is it will enable us to get to more parts of the moon than we’ve ever been able to get to before. Many people in this room are aware that it it’s gonna hang out for fifteen years. In what we call a near rectilinear halo orbit words kind of balanced if you will between. First gravity and and the moon’s gravity and it’s going to be in a position where it doesn’t take a lot of fuel to maintain that particular orbit. But it is gonna have solar electric propulsion so that’s not gonna movement over down the low lunar orbit. Because then you have to have a lot more thrusts to get out of low lunar orbit. But from that near rectilinear halo over to can go to the L. one point it can go to the L. two point. And that gives us more access to more parts of the moon than ever before. The moon is a very fascinating and diverse kind of well world. And and there’s a lot about it that we still don’t know and like I said from. Nineteen sixty nine when we first landed on the moon all the way up until. Two thousand eight a lot of scientists believe the moon was bone dry. And why was that well it’s because we landed in that equatorial region of the moon. Now what we want to do is we want to get to more parts than than than ever before there’s a lot there we still don’t know. What the gateway enables us to do is to get to all those parts not just with human landers but also with robots and Rovers? And other landers so this is a this is a great opportunity for us as an agency. To take advantage of that — The other thing the the way we do not the way we do the way we do communications we want all of this to be. Wide open the way we do avionics and navigation we wanted to be so wide open that anybody can participate. That’s really the ultimate objective and you’re here today to help us figure out. How we can maximize the? Utility of every corporation that wants to get involved in this maybe even private individuals that want to get involved and even. International partners that want to get involved that’s what this architecture is all about I liked what girls in my or said. He’s absolutely right we’re looking for people to respond to this reference architecture of the broad agency announcement. But that doesn’t mean other ideas are off the table and it doesn’t mean that. Other ideas could not be. Utilized by the agency so — I I really am excited about this and I’m excited about industry day coming here to NASA headquarters in being able. To share with you kind of what the vision is and of course hear back from all of our partners on this — Kind of big objective so with that Bettina thank you. For allowing us to open up this industry day. And all of you for me Jim had. Thank you Jim thank you bill that’s a wrap for shooting interesting formal continue shortly after offline. For more information about — Human exploration you can visit W. W. W. NASA dot gov backslash moved to Mars. Thank you so much and have a great day happy Valentine’s day. All right interesting stuff there from Nassau is they are looking to once again. Explore the moon at this time bringing space to tourism. To the moon more news now coming up next everyone [inaudible] Introduction. What we’re asking of the a with the sauce really three things three fall or? Make the reforms underway simultaneously. It’s vital. For the VA to share information openly. Even pre decisional information so that we can work together and have a common understanding. Of the impact of changes including costs. That are able. To the says challenges that may arise. The laws we pass in this chamber or key part. Of our legacy. Our oversight responsibilities are of equal importance. The bipartisan manner in which the V. eight committee works to uphold that oversight. Responsibility sets an excellent example for the rest of Washington the fall. The hard work of secretary will king. And his team and all those in the VA system the work. So so very hard on behalf of our nation’s veterans. Together. Working together. Together we can ensure that veterans receive the benefits of that is our promise [inaudible] That — Present. Alright folks and then obviously a little later here on tracks in Phoenix dot com we will I have the Senate voted for the border funding. Security package and then it’ll go to the house there if that passes all expected to pass but really the one key thing that we need to know about is president trump going to sign. On the dot when it comes to his table there it is taking down to a nother partial government shutdown if not wrapped up by midnight. Tonight they’re somewhat keep an eye on that here for ya on fox ten Phoenix dot com in the meantime wanna take you out to Boston it was a scary situation earlier this morning. As a fire ripped through a seniors — Living center. To and you say somewhere around fifteen to twenty people people in the in the affected area sold all the we and things like this it’s best to shelter in place to keep the people in the unit so we don’t. You know they don’t get exposed which we did there was some people suffer racquet weight was cause a problem we able to get. Because by the BSA were the other. One was shot in a place. What is the nature of not life threatening I think it was more smoke inhalation and? Germany injuries trying to escape. The I’m a margin. Overall how many people live. I’m not quite sure the number of people live in the building but I believe it’s twenty five unit. So and I think the single market so they make about twenty five individual. Plus in the housing and already building had I don’t know [inaudible] Yes. And the reason for the four lines really just because he’s actuation high risk population a number of people on the floor is among people size sofa back when you need. Causing Kimmel come very quickly become oxides we want to make sure we had adequate resources on the in the in the building. The case of that in which we were able to convince people stand it means to be not define. In your name. Commissioned Jos and F. I. N. and there are some very. Very intense very detailed. For everybody was okay all sheltering in place it was a lot of high anxiety initially because people the rear windows that we’re trying to get out and as an originally took a number of people now. People down on the ground that is in the room to make a determination old. Which were — Had had. We will show them in the rear of the building is it is. It is also yeah who’s to say so. Can you tell me what [inaudible] Your started [inaudible] Yeah [inaudible] The right. Being interested in limited areas. He’s the building. I’ll be the agent is not required and so we will be taking a look at that but I mean the sprinklers. In the spring to in the hallway did function in. The palm of our region. Certainly always best to have sprinklers in the promise that that certainly makes the situation more more easy to deal with. And certainly a lot more like safety — Parts of the union. We’re going to respond plans of this online. Well we certainly bring additional resources we we have a high rise response is going to do some resources in the final. Sectional chiefs to manage the situation when you have a high population you want me to have an evacuation. Sole concern is around the evacuation of the building. An examination with remain in place and so. We did some challenges but we were able to get. Any. We dream individuals taking all the while that is over the building [inaudible] In any. We have one transport I believe a second one on the way is gonna be transporting Charlie. Cantillation I think was a fall on Wall trying to trying to exit the building [inaudible] Which part. Yes one right behind it [inaudible] Thank you. We all good. Alright folks we’re going to keep me actually in Massachusetts right now we have some breaking news — Coming right there. Fox news alert. We are going — To Marshfield Massachusetts is that this is a suburb of Boston right now there is a rescue going on there. As you can see — Taking place there first responders there on the scene we don’t know. Who exactly — They are looking for their in that ice right now but this is – Differ definitely. Okay — Very. Scary situation there for all involved right now including the first responders are hard to see there with the glare of the sun right they’re picking up on the snow. And the ice but this is breaking news coming right here as a active rescued taking place there Marshfield Massachusetts is a suburb. Of Boston working to get you the very latest details here but sky box is over it. For right now so we are going to or you. Very latest — That we are getting from our affiliate there. Is that the sky fox over the water in Marshfield rescue crews say they are searching for a person who may have fallen. Through the ice unfortunately there so we will — Continue to wait and see just what happens here with that situation but viewer discretion always advise when we do take these live aerials you just don’t know — What is going to happen during and these moments here so we will continue? To wait and see you got first responders here all over in the scene in this area. Trying to locate a person that they believe fell through the ice a little bit ago so will — Continue. To hold the shot here for use guy Fawkes aerials lives in Marshfield. Massachusetts right now it is a suburb of their of Boston not too far. From the city there but we just went from one breaking news alerts to and now they’re all in the area and they’re of moss and now we are getting a better look here is the hottest guy Fawkes zooming in. Right now showing us the look here on just — Trudging through the water right now trying to break up that I use as well as locate. Somebody that may have fallen through obviously it’s a very fluid situation out there and time is always of the essence. When you’re dealing with? A situation like this there for those first responders or open that everyone stays safe during this time here obviously — They do have the protective gear home but it is still very very cold. Out there for them and and you can imagine. What that might have been for a high person that? Potentially could have — Went went under here and but now we just lost the shop [inaudible] Of the satellites and now we do have. Live look now of the capital there you just never know when they’ll switch the shot out within maybe it’ll come back Paxton Phoenix dot com if it does. As we just have a little. Time here on fox. Ten extra joining us right now. Salute the premium what’s coming up a little bit later. Hello everybody and the beauty of news now anytime we get a live breaking news and could bring into your right away show it to you raw unedited in its entirety so when and if we get that live picture back we’ll definitely have it on the strea. 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… wait. Yeah, if only it were that simple. States decide who gets to vote, so aside from
those few amendments I mentioned, we don’t have any uniform federal rules. So every time the federal government extended
the right to vote to a group, new state rules were put in place to limit how many people
in that group could actually vote. Like after the Mexican-American War. When we annexed all that new territory with
all those new people, America had a problem, because at the time, Mexican people were still
classified as white. So English literacy became a requirement. And it remained a requirement that was rather
famously used to deny black people the right to vote for another hundred years under Jim
Crow. Along with poll taxes, which meant you had
to pay a fee every time you voted, which were eliminated by the 24th Amendment
It’s a common misconception that felony disenfranchisement was started during Reconstruction
or Jim Crow in order to suppress the African-American vote. Felony disenfranchisement means that you lose
the ability to vote if you’ve committed a certain level of crime. The idea is that you broke the social contract,
so you shouldn’t be able to participate in decisions that help shape that society
or its rules. And you could argue that that makes sense
for a little while… but forever? Forever-ever? Forever-ever? We’ve actually had these rules since basically
the beginning. Kentucky was the first state to enact criminal
disenfranchisement in 1792, followed by Vermont in 1793, then Ohio, and Louisiana. By the time the Civil War came around, most
states, in the North and South, had some form of felony disenfranchisement. In fact, during Reconstruction, only one state
expanded felony disenfranchisement in order to stop black people from voting. Can you guess which one? It’s Alabama, I mean c’mon. Their constitution still has a rather long
list of people disqualified from voting, including: All idiots and insane persons – that’s
off to a great start. It should be noted that idiot was a medical
term back then, man that has not aged well. But here’s the list of crimes that disqualify
you. Those who shall be convicted of treason, murder,
arson, embezzlement, malfeasance in office, larceny, receiving stolen property, obtaining
property or money under false pretenses, perjury, subornation of perjury, robbery, assault with
intent to rob, burglary, forgery, bribery, assault and battery on the wife, bigamy, living
in adultery, sodomy, incest, rape, miscegenation- If you needed anymore proof that this was
racially motivated, here you go. Miscegenation is marrying outside of your
race, if a black man married a white woman, neither of them were allowed to vote. That section of the constitution wraps up
with a blanket statement. Or any crime punishable by imprisonment in
the penitentiary, or of any infamous crime or crime involving moral turpitude. An “infamous crime” is usually defined
as a felony. Many of the crimes on that list were retracted
over time, but the felony part has not. But felony disenfranchisement on the whole
is starting to disappear in the country as people start to realize that punishing someone
for life, well after their sentence, was a bit much. In Maine and Vermont, there is no disenfranchisement,
people are allowed to vote while in prison. These states allow you to vote once you’re
out of prison and these states after probation or parole. These states allow you to vote after your
sentence, but only for first-time offenders or non-violent crimes, it varies by state. But in these four states, no felon of any
kind ever gets to vote, ever. Forever ever? Yes. Well, unless the governor personally restores
your rights… and then the next governor doesn’t immediately reverse that decision. Florida has the chance to change their color
on that map in the election on Tuesday. But as felony disenfranchisement has been
disappearing, a new form of voter suppression seems to be emerging. When you register to vote, you have to prove
who you are and where you live, but some states are now requiring a separate ID when you actually
vote. Voter ID laws are one of those things that
just feels like it makes sense, but the facts don’t seem to line up with those feelings. Another example of this would be drug testing
people on welfare, it costs way more than it saves. A common argument for Voter ID is that you
need one for all sorts of other things, you can barely get by without one, so it makes
sense that you should have to prove who you are before you go vote. On the surface, that sounds reasonable, which
is probably why a majority of Americans support the idea. Except you don’t really need an ID for all
sorts of other things… unless you’re a teenager. I couldn’t tell you the last time I had
to show anyone my ID. Not to get into an R-rated movie, or buy spray
paint, or even alcohol. If I lived in a city that had decent public
transportation, I wouldn’t need an ID at all. Well, you need one to work, right? No, not really, no. When you got hired, your HR person gave you
this list – and you probably just handed over your driver’s license and social security
card. But there’s about a dozen other options
available. And here’s the kicker, those dozen other
options, depending on the state, aren’t valid Voter IDs. 11% of American citizens
do not have a valid Voter ID. I have an ID and if you thought that me saying
that I don’t remember the last time I had to show it to anyone is far-fetched, 35 million
Americans don’t have an ID and seem to get along just fine. Except when it comes to this new rule about
voting. If you lost your driver’s license, it would
be a pain, you’d have to take a few hours off of work, go to the DMV, sit there for
a few hours, pay a fee, and then wait six to eight weeks for it to arrive in the mail,
it would be a whole thing. But you can justify it because you need it
to drive. But if you take the bus to work every day
and everything is fine, but now you find out you have to do all of that stuff in order
to go vote, when you didn’t two years ago… You’re probably just not going to vote. Voter ID laws vary by state, but there are
currently seventeen states with rather strict Voter ID laws. The usual reasoning behind these laws is to
stop voter fraud and we’ve been told a lot in the last few years that voter fraud is
a big problem. And the integrity of our ballot box is paramount. I’m not going to address the claim that
millions of illegal immigrants are voting because, no they aren’t, that’s ridiculous. But in most of the states that either have
passed or are trying to pass Voter ID laws, someone will claim that hundreds of dead people
are voting. An analysis of recent elections in the state,
ready for this, shows that 953 dead people voted. After the investigation was complete, they
found that only five ballots couldn’t be accounted for of the 1.3 million votes that
were cast. But using that pretense, South Carolina still
passed Voter ID laws. Voter ID laws really only stop voter impersonation,
that is, you showing up at the polls and claiming to be someone you’re not and casting a vote. Between 2000 to 2014, there have only been
31 cases of that happening in the entire United States. Again, using voter fraud as a pretense, Texas
passed one of the strictest Voter ID laws in the country, disenfranchising over 600,000
people. Between 2002 and 2014, two people were convicted
of voter fraud in Texas. Imagine for a moment, that over the course
of 12 years, two people committed a crime with an AR15, and as a result, the state decided
to take away 600,000 AR15s from people who did nothing wrong. Not permanently, don’t worry, you can get
it back. You just need to take time off work, go to
the state ID office, wait for a few hours, pay a small fee, and wait a few weeks for
it to come in the mail. This isn’t that much of a stretch, voting
is a right, just as much as owning a firearm. Texas has one of the most interesting and
strictest Voter ID laws in the country. The issue isn’t that you need and ID, it’s
which IDs count. Most people have some form of ID, to work
or go to school or whatever, but those don’t count in Texas. Wisconsin allows school IDs, which makes sense,
it’s a state-run government institution. But Texas doesn’t, you know what does count? A Concealed Carry Permit. I can’t imagine any difference between people
who carry CCLs and people who carry school IDs… huh. And here’s where we get to talk about discrimination. Voter ID laws are often described as useless,
since it solves a problem that isn’t really a problem, but also racist, which usually
makes people defensive and use some of the arguments that I’ve already mentioned. Again, the problem isn’t that you need an
ID, it’s which IDs count as valid Voter IDs. As I said before, 11% of all Americans do
not have a valid Voter ID, only 8% of white Americans don’t have one, while 25% of African-Americans
don’t have one. These laws disproportionately affect poor
people, who also tend to be minorities. Anyone has the legal ability to go get a state-issued
ID, provided they have the necessary paperwork like their original birth certificate or proof
of name change. But not everyone has the financial ability
to do so. Even if the ID itself was free, if you have
to take off work for several hours to get an ID, when you didn’t need one to get to
work or anything else, that’s a cost that you might not be willing to pay in order to
go vote. Which is why some people claim that it’s
effectively a new form of a poll tax. It’s an unnecessary barrier to voting that
didn’t exist before and doesn’t really solve any problem. Using a fake ID to vote will be just as easy
as using one to buy alcohol, it won’t stop the small amount of voter fraud that exists. But it does stop minorities from voting. Let’s take a look at North Carolina, you’ll
notice that it doesn’t currently have any Voter ID laws, because it was struck down
by the courts. Although the new provisions target African
Americans with almost surgical precision, they constitute inapt remedies for the problems
assertedly justifying them and, in fact, impose cures for problems that don’t exist. The North Carolina legislature pulled racial
voting data and crafted the law around that to purposefully disenfranchise African American
voters with… what did they call it? Surgical precision. With race data in hand, the legislature amended
the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans. As amended, the bill retained only the kinds
of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess. If you needed anymore proof that Voter ID
is discriminatory, that should do it, it’s not that you need an ID, it’s which ones
count. Why do you think Texas allows CCLs but not
school IDs? But that’s not all they did, they discovered
that a lot of African American voters used same-day registration, so they got rid of
that. They also cut early voting from seventeen
days down to just ten, because that racial data indicated that a lot of African American
voters tended to vote early during the first seven days. Which eliminated a “Souls to the Polls”
day, when churches would bus people to go vote, do I need to tell you who used that? Likewise, in every state that has Voter ID
laws, you only need to present an ID if you vote in person, not if you do a mail-in or
absentee ballot. Guess who that favors… there’s a trend
here. When you register to vote, you have to identify
yourself and show some sort of proof-of-residence to establish your address. Usually a utility bill or a lease, seems simple
enough. But when North Dakota passed a law requiring
every registered voter to have a valid street address, they effectively disenfranchised
Native Americans who live on reservations. Because the Post Office still hasn’t gotten
around to giving them physical addresses. Even if you have an address, you’re registered
to vote, and you have a valid driver’s license or state-issued ID, you may go to the polls
and find out that you’ve been purged. Which is exactly what happened in Georgia
just a few weeks ago. Brian Kemp, who is running for governor and
also happens to be the current Secretary of State, purged almost a half a million people
from the voter rolls. 70% of which were African American. One of the justifications was that they didn’t
pass an “exact match” which requires all state documents to have the exact same spelling
and spacing of your full name and address. They used computers for this of course, nobody
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be supporting the channel when you do. He did this after the voter registration deadline,
so you won’t be able to fix this before Election Day. People were also purged for not voting in
previous elections. Most states have something like this, known
as use it or lose it, you’re removed from the voter rolls for not voting in the previous
general, midterm, or sometimes even off-year elections. Yes, there are off-year elections, there is
an election literally every November. Many of these laws have good sounding intentions
on their surface, but background negative consequences. They may not always have nefarious intent,
but they will have nefarious effect. It is your duty as an informed citizen to
think about these intents and consequences, especially if it effects people who may not
have the right to vote like you, because now, you know better. Go vote, if you heard nothing else during
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