The difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party

– The only downside to calling out stuff about the Democratic
Party is whenever I do it, I get a bunch of right-wing people going, “Yay, Tim Black, yay, Tim Black!” and it’s like, “No, no, I don’t like you either. In fact, I like you less.” (upbeat music) Only difference is, the
corporate Republicans admit who they are, they tell you who they are. You know, they show up with a gun and say, “I’m here to rob you. Not gonna act like I’m your friend. I’m here to take from you and give to the rich guys over there. That’s the deal. That’s my job.” Democratic Party’s a little different. They take you out for a beer, “Hey, man, how you doing, man? Hey, man, let’s go get
a beer, man, on me.” “For real, dog, you really
gonna take me for a beer?” “Yeah, man, look like you
could use a beer, man. Come on, let’s go take out, get a beer.” They sit down at the bar with you, listen to all your problems, “Yeah, man, these damn
cops keep messin’ with us.” “Really, keep messin’ with you, man? I’m gon’ help you fix that.” “Man, you gon’ help me fix the
cops messin’ with me, man?” “Yeah, man, ’cause I’m on your side.” “We got other problems too, man. The damn schools, man, the
schools ain’t workin’ right, man. We need better schools. You know, we gotta school
where the kids are gettin’ infected with mold. Mold just goin’ to the school.” “Oh, God! Mold on the kids! I’m gonna fix that ’cause I got your back. I’m a Democrat.” “Like, wow, man! This is amazing, man. I love you, Democrat guys, man. You understand my pain.” “Absolutely, we do.” Now you listen all that, you sit there at the bar of life. Life in politics. You have a few drinks with
the Democrat Party guy. (sighs) Then when you’re totally
plastered and you’re leavin’ the bar, (laughs) he pulls out his gun! (laughs) “Give me all your money! I’m a give it to the rich guys over here.” (laughs) “I thought you were on my side!” “That’s what you get for thinkin’. Stop thinkin’! Always thinkin’. Incrementalism! Incrementalism!” “Ahh!” Give it up for that. (laughs) I might put that in my act. I like that. That’s a good one. (upbeat music)

The National Org Working To Get Money Out of Politics

katelyn thank you so much for being here thanks for having me Lee I appreciate it so Move to Amend I have I have covered on the show before however it's been a while so for those who were just catching up let's start at the beginning what is Move to Amend Move to Amend is a national grassroots campaign to amend the US Constitution to make two things clear one corporations are not people and money is not speech so that we can regulate campaign spending again and how does move to then seek to achieve that well we're working on a constitutional amendment it's called the We the People amendment and it has been introduced in the US House of Representatives our lead is privileged I apollomon Washington and we have I think as of this week we'll be at 51 co-sponsors so we're still working to get it introduced in the Senate and most of what we do is actually grassroots organizing and movement building because this is not going to come from Congress and Washington DC this is coming from the American people so we pass ballot initiatives all over the country we do local resolutions through City Council's we have a candidate pledge every time there's an election and that's how we've built this movement over the last hour the ballot initiative doing the trust we they always win no matter what kind of community we're in big cities small towns Republicans Democrats you know independents it doesn't really matter this issue resonates across the political spectrum so you know we've had in we've had ballot initiatives that have run you know at the same time as Mitt Romney was running for president or Trump and in communities where both of those folks won our ballot initiatives still pass because everybody agrees that corporations have too much power and that there's too much money in politics and how often do the cities or states then adhere to the ballot initiative or well what the ballots are you able to just be like yeah the people want that but you know what fuck the people let's just do this well yes that's kind of standard but actually our bow initiatives a lot of them are just resolutions so they're actually calling on Congress to do something so then it becomes an organizing opportunity for us to go to representative and say you know you have a mandate but but increasingly started by our folks in Ohio they've been passing ballot initiatives that where they set up a day every year or every two years where the City Council is actually responsible for having a hearing and then letting the citizens know what they have done since the last one to move the amendment forward whether it's setting gladdie letters to Congress or working you know with other communities or state representatives and so that's actually something we're looking to do more and more is is to make it a lasting thing until the amendment is passed very cool so so as you said I think most people understand this is a problem that corporations have undue control over our politicians there are to play devil's advocate there are a lot of problems going on in the world why is this at the core why is this the one that needs to be front and center yeah well there are a lot of issues and the thing is that corporate power ties into almost all of them and so much of the time what corporations are doing the harm they are causing is perfectly legal and it's because our Constitution and our legal system have been hijacked by the corporate class and at this point any time a community or a state or in the case of Citizens United even the federal government passes a law that in some way is trying to restrict or curb corporate excess they have the biggest tool in their toolbox for the Constitution they can sue those communities they can sue the government and say that it violates their constitutional rights or their First Amendment rights and participate in politics and that is because of the Supreme Court and so we see this as sort of like a fundamental foundational issue we can't have democracy if corporations are able to trump our laws and regulations every time we pass them and so if we're going to try and work on anything else we really need this amendment kind of first and we find over and over again as our our movements are thwarted by the legal system that works on behalf of corporations yeah I think that that aspect of it is really isn't talked about enough that they you know the corporate state has captured the criminal justice as a legal system in a lot of ways and our courts certainly yeah the Supreme Court but at the most and so that's why a constitutional amendment is needed there's really no legislation we can pass to put them back in the box it has to be done constitutionally at this point so there's different ways to alter the Constitution right there's the bill you were talking about some people want a constitutional convention why is it one over another well move to immense position is actually kind of a bit of not agnostic up into the point and so there's two ways to amend the Constitution first you know both houses of Congress have to pass an amendment by 2/3 and then 3/4 of the states have to ratify it or 2/3 of state legislatures can call for a convention and 3/4 still have to ratify it so there's arguments to be made for like Congress will never act how can we ever trust them on the other hand there's arguments to be made for against a convention especially in this political environment where we have so many state legislatures run by fascists and so to have a convention and say hey guys when you have a conversation about the Constitution probably not the best moment and either way forcing Congress to act or building a convention that is actually you know a social justice Democratic project requires a People's Movement and so that's what we mostly focus on and yes our amendment is in Congress and sometimes we work on state resolutions around a convention but for the most part building power and creating the demand for the ultimate amendment is really what's required at this stage in the game so that's where we focus most of our energy yeah in terms of building that power you do travel around the the country speaking to people right yes yeah I and others from not just not just sitting in the swamp you know say we don't even have a staffer here in DC we are really more grassroots I am I live in California but we have folks all over the country we have local chapters all over the country run by volunteers and that's where most of the work is done and we do come here from time to time you know me more than others our national conference is this weekend coming up and so a number of us will be here and we'll be having a Lobby Day on Monday so your listeners and viewers can can call into Congress this week and support House Joint Resolution 48 and that will do us a solid as we're gonna be in their offices coming up real soon and as you said earlier you have gotten support from many Congress men and women recently jeyapaul and Ocasio Cortes as well right she's a signer there are roughly I haven't checked the latest numbers there are roughly 27,000 people running for president have any of them stated support or stated hatred for you know that's an interesting kind of conundrum for us so first of all Tulsi Gabbard is one of our co-sponsors in the house and so she should get credit for that she has mainstream media doesn't let you say that name you cannot say that name the candidate that shalt not be spoken of yes you shall not be named yes well you know she is actually and there's a couple of the random other ones that also are two who are House members but the reality is kind of on the frontrunner side unfortunately the consensus is that while we do need to amend the Constitution to end citizens united at this point mainstream Democrats will even say that and that's largely because of our work and all the grassroots work we did to pressure the party so you know that's Joe Biden's position whether he would actually do anything to help move it forward you tell me and then the other senators like I said we don't have a Senate lead yet and we have been working for years and unfortunately the position is that yes we need to do something about money in politics but the deeper issue of corporate personhood which is actually more fundamental and more the real hijacking of the whole Constitution not just that first amendment that is she was still not really getting through that it the way that it means to and it's not for our efforts so you'd think you know for any Sanders or Elizabeth Warren smile hair isn't you know but yeah yeah III mean a lot of it comes down to this is the system that put them into power so why why challenge what got you there right and Bernie Sanders definitely does talk about corporate personhood and Elizabeth Warren talks about corruption and so they're like almost there but in terms of actually putting it into a policy so that's what we're gonna keep working on and we have seen a lot of growth in the house and we hope that bringing on sort of a more prominent lead this year with Pramila Jaya Paul will potentially also help as well so but focus should call your senators and then and presidential candidates in particular okay okay and I did notice on your because you move to amend you know focuses on how corporations have kind of taken over our lives your your website and and I think in your when you're speaking to people as well is is about standing up against corporations in ways that are not just this amendment you know like your website was talking about Big Pharma and the the global emissions that they put out and you so you deal a lot with like corporate harm that's not just right we actually the way we call it talk about it is its corporate rule I mean because corporations and corporate CEOs in particular not even everybody in the corporation and their boards are making the fundamental public policy decisions of our whole world and they are able to do that you know kind of fundamentally at the end of the day because they can claim constitutional rights and so any efforts we make to stop them are thwarted through the legal system but it affects everybody and and most of the time we're not thinking about you know oh that's corporate constitutional rights at play we're thinking about you know impacts on people but if you kind of pull peel the layers off that onion that's why we think this is kind of a fundamental you know it's just it's a it's a major wedge issue that if we could knock that out it would just make a huge impact for all the rest of the work that we the the corporate class absolutely decides essentially all the policy issues and there was that large Princeton study that show that we are no matter what we want unless it aligns with their interest good luck right right or and it may not even get talked about you know let alone anything done about it so yeah it's you know there's a it's a longer term campaign but on the other hand it really does you know the other thing too is it's just so ludicrous that corporations property would have the same rights as people and that they got it through the fourteenth amendment which was supposed to be the amendment to ensure equal protection after the Civil War so it's just like it's such a twisted perversion of you know what we imagine is happening you know here in DC with government is that really it's these grotesque making signs that are in this may be a bit of a sidetrack but your national director of Move to Amend and earlier we mentioned jaya paul when el castillo cortez it seems like there's a lot of strong female leaders that are that are actually true progressives not kind of the I've learned how to behave like the like like the horrible white men that have ruled our world and then there's other movements as well Greta Thornburg there's the women that are at the front of the me to movement and the black lives matter movement do you feel this is a trend that a cultural shift or have I just taken the exceptions and said look at these no I actually think that they're you know I think that there is a trend I think that increasingly you know people in general are saying you know this is we got to stand up and do something about this and you know increasingly that's falling to women and I think that's actually always been true it's just that there's been sort of other you know men standing in front but the work still was being done but that's one of the reasons why we were really excited to work with jayapal too is that you know it before she came to Congress or her state legislature she was an organizer and you know I think that that's oftentimes what's happening and a lot Amar's been amazing too right exactly exactly it's just that people are sort of saying you know why should nobody that I can look to in this you know in these camps of you know men are doing it so rather than trying to find some other guy to take care of it maybe we should and I think the culture is more responsive and open to that as well because of all the workers right right and and and because of the the current cultural trends I'm always fascinated with people's path to kind of waking up and ending here and under understanding that you know the power corporate rule has in the fact that both parties are aligning to do the bidding of corporations largely what was your path how did you end up well I've actually been doing this for a really long time I'm going to moved to immense founders and I've actually been working on this issue for like 18 years even though I don't even barely look but I wasn't elected official at very young locally and you know definitely saw you know that we can't have local control and then more recently action really–it's for me it's the healthcare situation and you know personally I don't have insurance right now because my partner lost his job and I had a bout scare with cancer and you know it's just really terrifying if we don't have Medicare for all and that's true so many people that I know so may pour people who you know Obamacare did not help them because buying insurance from a corporation when you don't have enough money anyway but you can't even use well and that's a good example when you when you say things policies don't get done laws don't get changed except when they benefit corporations and people go oh yeah well what about Obamacare well corporations were in on the writing of Obamacare so I've with what they were okay with right exactly and so they didn't really put up much of a fight and at the end of the day you know it really like yes more people got insurance but how useful is insurance if the deductible is so high that you can't really use it and if you were need to need to you would have to borrow money to pay that you know I mean it's just like that's not a fully yeah yeah how could you be a human right in this in this final minute here how can those watching at home get involved join join Move to Amend or just help out well if folks don't have time then obviously you know just becoming a supporter signing our petition because when we go into Congress we take the list of names and so that's just one you know becoming a financial supporter of course – but we're grassroots based and so you know most of our work is done by volunteers in their communities running local move to amend groups and so that would be the way that if this moves folks we would love to have their involvement and there's and there's all different kinds of ways to be involved website moved to org okay I was going to say dot TV thank you so much for being here really thank you for having me it was great to be here too you