What is the Legacy of 9/11?


So it is today the 18th anniversary of nine
11. It’s incredible. It has actually been, uh, more than half of my life has been lived
after nine 11 than before nine 11, which is incredible. It’s also incredible just how
fast time passes and with each passing year since nine 11, uh, since the program has existed,
uh, I have been increasingly unsure, I guess I would say, or kind of just ambivalent about
what should we be doing? Should we just be doing the same thing every nine 11 anniversary
more or less? I don’t know. It’s actually been a few years since we’ve even talked about
it because for the last several anniversaries, I just didn’t really have anything new to
add. So what I want to think about today is I will retell the story of, of where I was
on nine 11, which I remember vividly, although behavioral economists and others would say,
my memory of this has deteriorated over the years and it is no longer accurate, but you
can go back and check contrast with the first time I told the story. And then I also want to talk about the, the
sort of legacy of nine 11 as I now see it. So, uh, on, on the morning of nine 11, I was
in high school and I was sitting in psychology class with a teacher of mine who I really
liked Donald Palmisano, who sadly is no longer with us. He actually passed away not that
long ago and I got the chance to see him out in western Massachusetts at an event a few
years ago. And, um, I remember his wife actually came up to me having heard my description
of, uh, my nine 11 morning and said, you know what, when I heard you tell that story, I
asked him, is it, do you think it really went down that way? And he said, you know, I don’t
remember, but it sounds sort of like how it would go down. So I was sitting in psychology
class and, um, a student who was sort of a regular troublemaker, whose name I forgot,
I think his name might have been Eric. And it’s amazing that his, the, the student’s
name, I forgotten. He was always out of his seat and always walking around in the halls.
He had gone to the bathroom and he came back into the room, uh, agitated and interrupted
psychology class and said to Mr Palmisano, we’re under attack. It’s happening in New
York. Things are crazy. More or less just saying we were, we’re under attack. The country’s
under attack. And Mr. Paul Massano looked at him in the context of this is a guy who’s
always interrupting class and sort of a troublemaker and not particularly well behaved and just
didn’t believe it and said, you know what, I’m sure everything’s fine. Please just sit
down. And of course we later found out that it was true. And, um, I don’t think that there
was early dismissal, but I certainly went home and was just watching TV. Uh, the rest of the day. And the following
day Mr Palmisano actually apologized to the student and said, you know what? You were
right. I apologize for how I reacted. And, uh, it’s, it’s horrible what’s happened. And
we just had a conversation in psychology class about what had gone on. Um, since then with
each passing year. Uh, in some senses our perspective on what took place changes and
evolves partially just because when things are less recent, our point of view is altered.
I don’t think any of us can control this also, partially because we know more about what
the legacy has been. And for me, unfortunately the legacy of nine 11 in the United States
has been pretty bad. Uh, we started a war in the wrong place as a result of nine 11
against people who didn’t do the thing that we claimed was the reason for starting the
war. We have seen pervasive, persistent and also
effective privacy invasions as a result of nine 11 under the guise of national security.
We’ve seen the Patriot Act, we’ve seen NSA surveillance, all of that stuff that we’ve
talked about over the last many years. Post nine 11 that the David Pakman show has been
going on, we have become really accustomed to the persistent state of the global war
on terror. Uh, the permanent war status quo of we’re always somewhere for many years it’s
been Afghanistan, a presence in Iraq that never seems to end. Other potential engagements,
all sort of under this post nine 11 mentality of we’ve got to make sure that people out
there who want to harm us aren’t able to do it and that we’re projecting strength and
all of this stuff. One of the elements of the legacy of nine 11 sort of the, the high
points, not in terms of them being morally good or bad, but just notable was the Obama
administration capture of Osama bin Laden. And then of course subsequently everything
we learned about the lead up to that and the people that were involved. We’ve seen a legacy
of continued ignorance and it’s really more than ignorance. It’s really more of a deliberate
kind of bearing our heads in the sand, many of us about what creates radicalism through
foreign policy. And this is not, you know, very often when we talk about foreign policy
creating radicals who want to attack the United States, it becomes a very sort of mannequin
white, black thing of listen, either people are responsible for choosing to attack the
United States, or you’re saying that they lack all responsibility and it’s just the
fault of the u s through foreign policy for radicalizing people. And of course the answer
is no, that’s not the black and white scenario that anyone who’s thoughtful is trying to
lay out. One of the things we’ve hopefully learned over the 18 years since nine 11, is
that radicalization, both domestically and geopolitically, whether we’re talking about
white supremacy or or Islamic, uh, um, extremism or whatever the case may be, is a combination
of, uh, circumstances domestically, which are influenced by the foreign policies of
super powers like the United States combined with the particular, uh, predispositions and,
uh, sort of, uh, circumstances of individuals. All of the white supremacists and former white
supremacists. I’ve interviewed on the show have told a very consistent story about how
they know who is sort of ripe for radicalization and indoctrination and in the same way when
we talk about al Qaeda or isis or whatever, we’re not excusing the actions of individuals
when we say we should consider the role that the relationships between countries and American
foreign policy have on creating an environment ripe for radicalization. While understanding
that millions, tens of millions, hundreds of millions, billions of people on the planet
are not apt to be radicalized regardless of foreign policy. These things are not black
and white and hopefully if there’s a positive legacy from nine 11 and I know that for a
lot of people this just doesn’t work, but hopefully the more thinking people are aware
of this stuff, hopefully one of the positive legacies of nine 11 if there’s anything to
find in it, is that we have sort of deepened our understanding of the interaction between
personal circumstances, personal responsibility and geopolitical status quo in creating radicalization
around the world. We also have seen continued neo-conservative
war hawking on a lot of the right and even on some of the left as a result of nine 11.
Um, in terms of even justifying, uh, attempted or would be engagements in other parts of
the world over the last 18 years. Airport security and the establishment of the TSA
of course a major legacy of nine 11 and unfortunately not one of the best ones. TSA, a failing to
identify banned items in almost 95% of internal self tests, drills, so to speak of their security
processes. So sadly it is mostly negative. There was, I mean, if we want to find something
that was sort of good that happened after nine 11, um, that of course doesn’t outweigh
any of the bed. There was actually a short lived positive sort of sense of unity in the
United States where hyper partisanship was mitigated a little bit. And it was about coming together as a country
and helping people in New York City and in Washington, D C and all of the people affected
by nine 11. And it didn’t last long. And it’s not surprising that it was these sort of black
swan type events. To take a term from, uh, Nassim Taleb who has written about such events,
um, that really kind of shook up the status quo. It didn’t last very long. And of course
then the administration of George W. Bush choosing to retaliate to nine 11 by going
into Iraq, which had nothing to do with it, did not help at all. My question to you, how
should we be remembering nine 11 as we get closer and closer to 20 years out from the
event, which is just incredible that almost 20 years have gone by. Uh, and what do you
see as the legacy of nine 11 on geopolitics on United States foreign policy, domestic,
uh, issues and the status quo? I want to hear from you.

100 Replies to “What is the Legacy of 9/11?

  1. Inside job and they got away it. The Cheney and Bush criminal families. Goldstein. The Israeli demolition teams that wired WT 1, 2 and 7. The only people that were punished were innocent Iraqis…including Saddam, he was just an old score to settle. America is a sick deluded society not bc of these actions alone but bc you actually think you are free and democratic. The real victims include one million Iraqi men, women and children. So mourn them too as you remember the other innocent victims. It's not too late America. George W. Is still alive and needs to be brought to justice.

  2. The legacy of September 11th, 2001, is two ongoing U.S. wars, which started when high-school seniors today were babies; with no end in sight, overly-invasive, and ineffectual security regulations at airports, the Federal government having the legal authority to remove all constitutional rights from any law-abiding U.S. citizen they choose, at any time, for no reason (thanks to the Patriot Act), and the Republican Party taking control of all three branches of the federal government; thus enabling big corporations expand their control over the government even MORE (ex: a lobbyist for the fossil fuel industry, who had repeatedly sued the EPA, and vowed to try to destroy it, being appointed to head it), women across the country being serious danger of losing their right to choose, environmental destruction getting even worse, and the proliferation of guns, and thus the proliferation of mass-shootings.

  3. God bless every first responder on that day. May all that perished rest in peace. To every one of my veteran brothers and sisters that perished, I'll see you at the gates!

  4. I was at the company and all I thought was, now things will really get conservative in the US and it looks like that I was right. BTW the Patriot Act is still in place, just saying.

  5. Legacy: The elite swindled power through the police state, upping a military budget that if halved would solve all problems americans have, created a surveillance state that has orwell spinning in the grave, and emotionally chained the people to never question the official narrative as a blatant spread of propaganda and lies got the power to take away freedoms and liberties willingly, whilst everyone stands around and remembers the victims, whilst the villians still roam the country wealthy healthy and happy.

  6. I really want to morally understand what happened that day but I am too young. We have boots in Afghanistan today because of a terrorist attack I WASN'T EVEN ALIVE FOR.

  7. As an outsider looking in?
    Frankly, I think it's time for you guys to just move on.
    It's been eighteen years; whatever 9/11 may or may not have justified, it's long since over.
    Your decisions must be based of the world of today, not the world of the last generation.
    Today you have rampant criminality, unsustainable living standards, deteriorating health and safety standards, and radicalization in every colour of the rainbow.
    These are what should concern you, not that some nutters crashed a plane two decades ago.

  8. I was a university student at the time and since our academic year was starting in October, I had just woken up at around 2pm after a night of partying. I'm from Denmark so that was around 8 in the morning on the east cost of the US. Turned on the tv and not long after the regular program was interrupted with the news of what had happened in New York. I switched the channel to CNN International and literally saw the second tower hit and crumble in real time. Surreal.

  9. The legacy?

    Increased extremism from the American right. That's the legacy. You let terrorism win and voted for someone who has no issue with white supremacist terrorism.

  10. David, what U.S.foreign policies do you feel help facilitated the radicalization of Islamist Terrorists in Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia that led to the attacks on 9/11?

  11. I was 13 when it happened and it’s amazing how ignorant I was. I barely knew what the twin towers were and didn’t really understand how unusual the event was. It’s interesting to see how many freedoms we gave up as a result as well as how justified conservatives feel in invading other countries because of the attacks. Many continue to feel that way to this day.

    However, I do remember everyone wanting to go to war because the idea that someone would attack US soil was so extremely offensive that most felt the need to retaliate regardless of how educated they were on the subject.

  12. Keep it slumber apart from mayor milestones like 20, 25, 30,40,50 years. It was a tragedy that should be remembered for the regular people that lost their lives and not in any way exploited beyond that.

  13. You would think that one legacy of 9/11 would've been to cut ties between the US and Saudi Arabia…
    I am not american but I always found appalling that the role of Saudi Arabia in 9/11 isn't discussed more in the States (even in "truthers" circles).

  14. America has only been at peace for around 20 years of its existence, let that sink it. Almost all of those wars have been imperialistic in nature

  15. Legacy is Endless War, among other "highlights." Babies who were born after 9/11 happened are now old enough to serve in Afghanistan.

  16. The question is what should we learn from 9/11? You can't destroy or kill hate. Hate just feeds more hate. Racism and deporting or trying to stop legal Americans and even citizens from entering our country will only create more hate and more terrorists. Trump and his politics & rhetoric will create an entire new generation of hate and terrorists, both from within and outside our country borders.

  17. So, as a Canadian, I must admit I hardly notice 9/11 anymore. I practically forgot until I heard a memorial on the radio. Even after the reminder, it barely registered.
    Honestly? Maybe thats for the best.
    Maybe we should just let it be a memorial day for those who wish to remember, and let the rest move on.

  18. Glenn Greenwald – Why do they hate us?

    Worth watching, if you haven't seen it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmMTh2bE5uE

  19. I think one thing you forgot to mention was a hyper increase of patriotism for the sake of patriotism, which has in particular turned one party into overly nationalistic buffoons who hate anything that is not us. I think the right wing's anti-brown people obsession, while it certainly didn't start on 9/11, definitely got much worse.

  20. The USA still has 14,000 soldiers in Afghanistan. Today an explosion took place near the US Embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan. That was no accident.

  21. I member it like it was yesterday. 70 radical hasidic Jews hijacked 20 semi trucks and crashed them into Trump Tower. I might be off on a few minor details, but it's generally true. Anyways great video Kyle.

  22. Our reaction to 9-11 wasn't what it should've been. We should've properly investigated every aspect of the attacks. Who funded it ?Who carried it out? Who benefited from the attack? Then they should've reinforced the cockpit doors and added an Air Marshall. The Bush Neocons couldn't wait to start bombing Afghanistan and Iraq. They also couldn't wait to take away our freedom. The more you look into 9-11 the more it seems like elements of the military or military industrial complex were helping the hijackers. How is it that multiple layers of security failed yet those in charge of those layers werent reprimanded or fired??

  23. We declared war on the wrong country at a cost of $10 Trillion, 100k civilians, 10k American troops.
    We remained BFF with the country that produced the hijackers.
    The TSA turned flying in an airplane into a demoralizing cluster fuck.
    The patriot act gave the government to ability to legally spy on EVERYONE.
    We have declared a war on the Islamic religion, and now treat Islamic Americans like garbage.
    The ONLY thing we did right was order the strike on Osama Bin Laden, who WE FUNDED in the 80s.
    If the terrorist's goal was to expose the US for what we really are, they did exactly that.

  24. In 2001, you were in highschool. You look like you're in high school now with all due respect because you still look very young.

  25. I remember on 9/11.. I was at school and some of the kids got to go home because their parents picked them up. And I remember getting angry at my parents for not picking me up because I hated school.
    Then I remember the teacher made us write a letter to the president. The assignment really emphasized on how afraid / shocked we were, when I wasn't afraid, I was on the other side of the country nor was I shocked.. I was honestly surprised that this kind of thing didn't happen more often. I wanted to write on that letter to just carpet bombed the fuck out of the middle east – but then my teacher said I shouldn't write that.. but instead write about how afraid and shocked I was. That is my 9/11 experience… kind of lousy but could have been way worse.

  26. Legacy of 9/11 – well everything your commentators have mentioned already certainly, but I amazed that no one has pointed to the fact the 9/11 Commission failed the American people. The has never been an accurate forensic evaluation of the events of that day. Those of us who question what happened are dismissed as conspiracy theorists. Yet any intelligent analysis of the basic facts show that the 9/11 Commission Report cannot be true. This shows the gullability of much of the American population and the failure of the American press

  27. We should do, nothing for 9/11 what we do for Pearl Harbor… a very limited reminder. Fox News’ coverage of 9/11 last night made me cynical of any good it does us to keep bringing up 9/11 with such enthusiasm.

  28. I remember not being surprised at all by the 9/11 attacks, given what I knew about the USA's disgusting foreign policies around the world. Of course the christian fascist neo con republicans used it as an excuse to ramp up their disgusting behaviour

  29. Being a European, I can't really speak to the American collective psyche, but I'll share my perspective anyway.

    Since World War 2, the US has had military bases all around Europe. Before 9/11 though, I thought the US was beginning to show signs of drowsiness — It was beginning to revert back to it's state of torpor, as it was before World War 2. I think Yamamoto's quote regarding 'the sleeping giant' towards Pearl Harbor is appropriate to 9/11 also, in that in both cases, the US experienced a heightened state of activity on the world stage.
    Now with Trump, most European countries are slowly allocating additional funds to their military spending. I don't believe that the US should have military bases in Europe. I welcome the collaboration, we're allies after all, but Europe should be defended by Europeans.
    I think we can make the legacy of 9/11 into what we want, it was a wake up call to the US, but not so much to Europe as a whole. While I can't remember the actual day, I vividly remember the day after 9/11. My Danish teacher was an American, and he made an otherwise rowdy 4th grade classroom take a couple of minutes of complete silence.
    As much as I loathe Trump (he's disturbing my delicate European sensibilities), I actually welcome the attempt to wake Europe up, and start paying for its own defense. My reasoning for wanting this is as follows: Right now Europe often has to follow the US' lead, which isn't always great, because to a certain degree we're relying on you fine folks for our defense. I think the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were mistakes, but if the EU hadn't been relying on US defense, we could've provided an important counterbalance to Bush' warmongering, and perhaps even prevented the wars altogether. Friends don't let friends start wars on false pretenses!

  30. 9/11 is also the day that Pinochet came to power. I was in second grade when 9/11/01 happned and they cancelled school that day.

  31. On 9/11 I was driving near my house listening to Howard Stern as Howard stated that a plane crashed into the Building. I immediately went to my house and saw the further destruction on live TV. 5 days later I drove to New York

  32. Interesting, you decry the supposed invasion of YOUR personal privacy from the U.S. security agencies but you want to confiscate the weapons of law abiding citizens and do away with the second amendment. YOU TALK OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF YOUR MOUTH, kind of disingenuous of YOU!

  33. I'm assuming you were 14 in high school. By that math, you must be 32?? Damn, man. You look like the kind of guy who still has to show id when buying liquor. Lucky sob. I'm 24 and look 30.

  34. We should remember 9/11 as the horrible unnecessary event that it was, but at the same time recognise "our" level of responsibility in causing such an event to happen (and the other attacks that occurred around the world soon after), through not only our foreign policy but what "we" did behind closed doors and out of sight (and tried to cover up) as a "superpower" having massive geopolitical influence. Resting the blame entirely on the people who were desperate enough to be manipulated into suicide attacks (and the authoritative figures pushing people toward that) shows a level of dangerous myopia that lead into mistakes like the invasion of Iraq, and the continuation of the war on terror which is truly a perpetual war (if the intent was to destroy the concept of terrorism, which is often a direct result of desperation created by war, a war on terrorism was never going to be "won" and seems like an oxymoron).

  35. David, you are just finding out how fast time goes by?! Welcome to life. Welcome to someone who will absolutely tell you in 20 years time that you are stupid and uninformed.

    Seriously I knew someone who died in the N. Tower.

  36. Controversial but;
    Twin towers, only skyscraper that suffered a pancake collapse from a fire.
    Key words: skyscraper, pancake collapse(straight down, as in controlled demolition) , fire (btw not at the base of the building) .
    Important details. This led to hasty legislation, end result is what Julian & Edward snowden revealed.
    F.Y.I. wiki leaks is The only publication with a 100% accuracy. (Wikileaks showed us our police state / surveillance state)

  37. Just think, if Trump gets re-elected he'll be able to congratulate the United States on reaching the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

  38. How sad. First, there was no desire to confirm who attacked the Twin Towers. Secondly, Bush n Guliani hastily cleared all evidence that wud have confirm d real cause of d destruction of d Twin Towers (d Arabs has no intellectual not f means to fly planes n hit d towers but d Israeli Intelligence has). Blaming d Arabs n Muslims for terror acts have been every Christians n Jews agenda n they cover n spread them thru d Press. At least Thrump finally said fake news n all Chritians n Non-Muslims have been spreading all d hatred. You Christians never want to talk n attack Iraq, Libya, Yemen, now Syria not to forget Palestine, mercilessly killing millions of innocent children, women and d elderly. U dance to d tune of Zionism

  39. I am kind of surprised that the rise of Islamophobia in the U.S. was not on your list of things that are legacies of 9/11.

  40. the day our government endeavored to convince Americans that 4 planes hijacked by saudis (15 of them) and 4 other terrorists, succeeded in taking out the dollar bill and the most heavily secured area in the world with three commercial jets. all the US government apparatus in place to protect Americans from just this sort of attack worked flawlessly to allow hijacked planes to reach their target. one plane full of hijackers was thwarted by uncooperative airplane passengers that didn't want to die ( a risk you take when incorporating civilians into a mission such as this). we relinquished our basic American rights and most of our treasure to help dispossess millions and transform the American dollar into a peso. this has made paying the wage-slaves much less burdensome. but idiot in chief holds no grudges and invites taliban to camp david. yea amerika!

  41. The legacy of 9/11 is that its the day the world became insane. America got stabbed by a crazy person and in response decided to slit it's own throat.

    Fucking ridiculous.

  42. There will be NO legacy nor lesson learned from 9/11. The take-away should be to stay the hell out of other countries business, stop overthrowing their governments and mind our own business. But people never learn anything and we will do it again, and again, and again and it will always bite us in our ass.

  43. How should we be remembering 9/11? How about talking about the latest statement from the University of Alaska, Firefighters of NY, and the grand jury accepting a case from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth?

  44. Well we can learn from our mistakes and stay the fuck outta dodge and stop being the Police for the World, because then you can't act surprised when radicals attack and then blame Islam as a scapegoat.

  45. Baby Boomer here- 9/11 was to us what Pearl Harbor was to our parents x 50.Don't forget what was done to Japanese/Americans. Those of us with German roots got off easy, because we "looked OK".

  46. I don't think those that say 'it was an excuse by the government to start wars and shred our privacy rights apart' quite remember just the absolute RAGE the entire nation was in just after the event.

  47. HELLO!!!!! If all you people still think America was 'attacked' by Saudi terrorists, you need to get educated by listening to the architects and engineers at www.youtube.com/AE911Truth. Bush and Cheney killed all those people themselves and blew up the 3 buildings. Not Conspiracy Theory, but a real Conspiracy by the Bush administration.
    WATCH THIS Youtube VIDEO: 9/11 – Anatomy of a Great Deception – Complete Version

  48. The legacy was the final death of American freedoms and the murder of billions of innocent people, as our weapons contain materiel from spent nuclear fuel rods.

    Chapman University Survey of American Fears Wave 3 (2016)
    The government is concealing what they know about …

    The 9/11 attacks: 54.3 percent agree or strongly agree
    The 45.7% should read the declassified 28 pages of the 911 report. I would remind people that the official story is bat shit crazy, and comes from the crazies. The neo-cons are called 'the crazies' and have never told the truth.
    al Qaeda, Arabic for 'the base', is up there with reptilian shape shifters and flat Earth, in terms of craziness.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgWrnahej2c
    al Qaeda was a myth.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEm4YLfd7eM&t=15s
    Osama bin Laden 1957-2001
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uvi6oY_dOA&t=2m20s

  49. Endless wars; tens of thousands of dead Iraqis; further breach of trust towards country's leadership both internally and with key allies; trillions in national debt for military expansion; otherizing of Muslims; loss of privacy; introduction of wasteful airport security theatre; betrayal of heroes leaving them to die and/or go bankrupt on medical bills.

    But also inspirational tales of selfless heroism. The negatives far outweigh the positives but that is to be expected from an obviously negative event. But it is shocking just how bad the direct and indirect costs of 9/11 have been to America and the world.

  50. One thing that 9/11 revealed, was how many people do not understand the basic laws of physics. But instead embrace the official conspiracy theory put out by the government, that planes and fires brought down 3 high rise buildings at free fall speeds into their own footprint. Sad.

  51. From someone whom was 27 at the time …

    Although I live in London, England, I distinctly remember coming home from work, and watching as the events unfolded. I am pretty sure I remember the South Tower being hit, and eventually seeing both collapse. To say it was shocking was an understatement …

    But what helped me understand the events that occurred, in a succinct manner, was from a remarkable journalist, Alistair Cooke.

    Born in England, he emergrated to America at rather early age, sometime during the 1920s. In regular broadcasts on BBC radio, he would recall the Great Depression, and the hardships leading up to WWWII. In perhaps one of the most famous pieces of reporting, he was quite literally feet away from Robert 'Bobby' Kennedy, when he was assassinated. In a remarkable reportage, he recalls seeing him, laying face up, as in that famous photograph, almost at his feet. It was something forever seared into his memory.

    Remarkable, he was still alive in 2001. He recalls turning on the television, to see the first tower being hit. At first he thought he was watching a low budget tv movie, until the sheer reality of the events hit home, and he realised what he was seeing was all too real …

    In his regularly scheduled broadcast, he devoted to the events of that day. Recalling his vivid recollections of Pearl Harbour, as that unfolded, he weaved, in just 15 minutes, a fascinating parallel to both events, inclusive of FDRs famous words of "a day which will live in infamy", and how they were applicable, tragically, once more, and that the shock that would be felt was bound to be not too dissimilar to the former event, all those decades previously …

    What he couldn't forsee was what was going to happen next, but, if I recall correctly, there would be a responce …

  52. First, I feel 9/11 should never have happened. We knew our airport security was inadequate, yet failed to improve it. Was this a failure of management, or of capitalism itself?

    Second, I feel that pluralism was generally accepted until then. I feel that kids traumatized by the event and anti-Muslim sentiment have grown up bigoted and ripe to join the Neo-Nazi "alt-right."

    The best thing we could do to observe the tragedy would be to reaffirm those values that distinguish us from Al-Qaeda — valuing and cultivating every person's ability to reason and aspire, rather than stand enslaved to antiquated and violent ideologies.

  53. The legacy I most despise, as a Veteran , isthe so called patriotic emotion to move to war without questioning who caused 9/11 was deemed "unpatriotic "
    I grew up watching them build WTC, I worked in building Two, I served in the US Army…and I am against this war. This to me was the dividing line that now exists as a nation divide. Who loves this country vs who doesn't..
    In reality dissent in the high form of patriotism…
    Not hollering USA
    How to remember this day..Bring our soldiers home , take care of the vets, pay 9/11 responders

  54. The legacy of 9-11? Right wing idiots are using this event to be xenophobic, while government contractors use this as a means to get rich, and the American government used this to use the constitution as toilet paper. America also used it as a means to launch a war against the wrong country.

  55. And yet the Saudis are indoctrinating African and Asian children and we are doing nothing about the army of nutters that will result.

  56. I was 18 i had just graduated 2 months earlier that previous night was what i felt the end of my childhood. I had a friend spend the night we stayed up late watching movies etc like a sleep over. but after 9/11 i just lost all interest in such activities.

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